Re: Pittman

February 17, 2005

In a message dated 2/17/05 11:20:36 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

glitterari@... writes:

>

> In a message dated 2/17/05 8:54:49 AM Mountain Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

> > In SSRI medications , " F DOGG " <F_DAWGY_DOGG@h...>

> > wrote:

> > > I can't believe the jury found Pittman guilty, I'm too

> > depressed to

> > > comment on it right now. I hate this idiot country -

> >

> I would bet that jury was comprised

Hi

This is the article that I published on 's behalf. We will be

helping

to see what can be done next. There are many possiblities and changes that

remain

that hold hope that we are seeking on his behalf. If you would like to help

please let me know.

The Juvenile Defender Online Newpaper

Marhoefer

Independent Press Association

Feb 14, 2005

On The Pittman Trial

While the world remains dumbfounded as they sort through the

trial of a teen. There also remains the central unanswered question.

Which came first, the medication or the bad behavior?

The chicken or the egg so to speak.

I begin my commentary with this thought, it is my very fervent belief that no

child should ever be tried as an adult. In this instance two people died.

This must also remain at the heart of all decision and discernment. Each case

holds several different levels and types of victims.

Each deserving of consideration.

Does medication have the ability to cause bad behavior? Does medication have

the ability to influence or agitate an already disturbed state? Negatively?

Would such events have taken place without the presence of these drugs?

All very important questions.

Behavior modification, as these drugs are so widely used for and so aptly

referred to, do have the ability to change mood/personality/behavior. This is

not

the question. The question is, who is responsible for the failure of this

child and in his life.

All of this must be taken into account and should be involved in the

influence of any and all sentencing. There must be consequence for the negative

behaviors as they were present before the introduction of drugs, and failures

that

escalated to death.

If there is to ultimately be freedom for this young man his place needs to be

established, and earned back into our society through forms of probation,

expectation and help. Anti-depressants do cause children to behave in

destructive,self destructive, and violent actions. The word cause is highlighted

for a

reason.

There is a long line of people who hold a shared responsibility and this also

must be held as an accountability factor. Family structures that fail share

in this responsibility for such failure. Regardless of what life holds it is

our responsibility to support the children within our care.

Parents and grandparents then must depend on professionals in the mental

health field when help is needed, and for them to know what is best for the

child.

This child's dosage was too high and he was given a drug that was not even

recommended for a child his age. Four times the amount of an adult dossage. This

also holds responsibility. A grave one.

The mental health professionals depend on the pharmaceuticals to provide them

with research and findings of safety for their products. When any one in this

line of responsible support fails, we have failed children.

There are many who share in the responsibility of contributing to the

delinquency of this minor. This must also reflect in his sentencing as a

juvenile.

Children do not belong in adult courts or adult facilities.

At the same time this young man also must face the consequence for these

deaths. This is part of the tragedy as a whole.

All of this must be taken into account in the sentencing of this child and

probation

or what steps are needed to restore order and safety not only for his life

but for society as a whole. His sentencing should reflect our understanding of

this drugs' influence.

Yet we can never send the message to society that you can murder and that the

use of these drugs can be used as an excuse for this action.

In this situation I do believe that this drug did play a very large role.

These drugs do alter behavior. That is the very purpose for their

prescription.

We must address very aggressively the mass and over prescription of

psychotropic drugging of the children in our lives.

Pharmaceuticals play a very major and important part in all of our lives,

just as they have the ability to save and heal lives we need to adjust the areas

whenever lives are lost with immediate action. This will not be accomplished

by ignoring or suppressing negative research.

These are everyone's children, not just some.

We are a competent society and we do have the ability to do this.

In closing as I sit among stacks and mountains of testimony from all over the

world. Children dying, loved ones lost, the cruel tortures that result in

institutionalized confinements, particularly those in the corrections and mental

health areas. I am reminded of the words of Rosenbaum who is a

juvenile defender and whose work reflects his belief that these children need

Help

Not Punishment.

May we as the adults always strive to be the adults. When we try children as

adults this is a very immature way to cover up for the adults who failed. As a

country it is time for us to grow up and be the adults we are expecting these

children to be.

Marhoefer

The Defense Foundation for Children

the Website

The Juvenile Defender 2005

reprint by permission only

February 17, 2005

In a message dated 2/17/05 11:20:36 AM US Eastern Standard Time,

glitterari@... writes:

>

> In a message dated 2/17/05 8:54:49 AM Mountain Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

> > In SSRI medications , " F DOGG " <F_DAWGY_DOGG@h...>

> > wrote:

> > > I can't believe the jury found Pittman guilty, I'm too

> > depressed to

> > > comment on it right now. I hate this idiot country -

> >

> I would bet that jury was comprised

Hi

This is the article that I published on 's behalf. We will be

helping

to see what can be done next. There are many possiblities and changes that

remain

that hold hope that we are seeking on his behalf. If you would like to help

please let me know.

The Juvenile Defender Online Newpaper

Marhoefer

Independent Press Association

Feb 14, 2005

On The Pittman Trial

While the world remains dumbfounded as they sort through the

trial of a teen. There also remains the central unanswered question.

Which came first, the medication or the bad behavior?

The chicken or the egg so to speak.

I begin my commentary with this thought, it is my very fervent belief that no

child should ever be tried as an adult. In this instance two people died.

This must also remain at the heart of all decision and discernment. Each case

holds several different levels and types of victims.

Each deserving of consideration.

Does medication have the ability to cause bad behavior? Does medication have

the ability to influence or agitate an already disturbed state? Negatively?

Would such events have taken place without the presence of these drugs?

All very important questions.

Behavior modification, as these drugs are so widely used for and so aptly

referred to, do have the ability to change mood/personality/behavior. This is

not

the question. The question is, who is responsible for the failure of this

child and in his life.

All of this must be taken into account and should be involved in the

influence of any and all sentencing. There must be consequence for the negative

behaviors as they were present before the introduction of drugs, and failures

that

escalated to death.

If there is to ultimately be freedom for this young man his place needs to be

established, and earned back into our society through forms of probation,

expectation and help. Anti-depressants do cause children to behave in

destructive,self destructive, and violent actions. The word cause is highlighted

for a

reason.

There is a long line of people who hold a shared responsibility and this also

must be held as an accountability factor. Family structures that fail share

in this responsibility for such failure. Regardless of what life holds it is

our responsibility to support the children within our care.

Parents and grandparents then must depend on professionals in the mental

health field when help is needed, and for them to know what is best for the

child.

This child's dosage was too high and he was given a drug that was not even

recommended for a child his age. Four times the amount of an adult dossage. This

also holds responsibility. A grave one.

The mental health professionals depend on the pharmaceuticals to provide them

with research and findings of safety for their products. When any one in this

line of responsible support fails, we have failed children.

There are many who share in the responsibility of contributing to the

delinquency of this minor. This must also reflect in his sentencing as a

juvenile.

Children do not belong in adult courts or adult facilities.

At the same time this young man also must face the consequence for these

deaths. This is part of the tragedy as a whole.

All of this must be taken into account in the sentencing of this child and

probation

or what steps are needed to restore order and safety not only for his life

but for society as a whole. His sentencing should reflect our understanding of

this drugs' influence.

Yet we can never send the message to society that you can murder and that the

use of these drugs can be used as an excuse for this action.

In this situation I do believe that this drug did play a very large role.

These drugs do alter behavior. That is the very purpose for their

prescription.

We must address very aggressively the mass and over prescription of

psychotropic drugging of the children in our lives.

Pharmaceuticals play a very major and important part in all of our lives,

just as they have the ability to save and heal lives we need to adjust the areas

whenever lives are lost with immediate action. This will not be accomplished

by ignoring or suppressing negative research.

These are everyone's children, not just some.

We are a competent society and we do have the ability to do this.

In closing as I sit among stacks and mountains of testimony from all over the

world. Children dying, loved ones lost, the cruel tortures that result in

institutionalized confinements, particularly those in the corrections and mental

health areas. I am reminded of the words of Rosenbaum who is a

juvenile defender and whose work reflects his belief that these children need

Help

Not Punishment.

May we as the adults always strive to be the adults. When we try children as

adults this is a very immature way to cover up for the adults who failed. As a

country it is time for us to grow up and be the adults we are expecting these

children to be.

Marhoefer

The Defense Foundation for Children

the Website

The Juvenile Defender 2005

reprint by permission only

February 17, 2005

I have to disagree with you, Glitter, IMHO I do not think these jurors were all

dumbass morons nor that their being from South Carolina made all the difference.

Sometimes it is easy to forget that those of us who know so much about the

history and the action of psychotropic drugs are a minority. Most people just

do not have a clue about the dangerous nature of these drugs. So many good and

decent people I have heard discuss this case, just cannot get past the principle

of " he did something terribly wrong, and he must be held accountable. " That is

a fine principle, and I am all for it, but I also know the specifics of how

these drugs affect the brain, and the different areas of brain function. People

need so much to brought up to speed on these facts. The fact that so many

people accept prescriptions for these poisons is proof of their ignorance.

Gertie

Re: Pittman

In a message dated 2/17/05 8:54:49 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> In SSRI medications , " F DOGG " <F_DAWGY_DOGG@h...>

> wrote:

> > I can't believe the jury found Pittman guilty, I'm too

> depressed to

> > comment on it right now. I hate this idiot country -

>

I would bet that jury was comprised of a bunch of dumbass morons. I wouldn't

trust my fate to a jury -- especially not in a place like SC. This should've

been a slamdunk, but the average person has been so propagandized by the

media that they can't think for themselves, much less out of the box. And

yes, we

send our children to prison, which is an insanity in itself.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

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Unsafe At Any Dose

February 17, 2005