Re: Drugs not necessarily bad?

[Guest guest]

" lsyorke " <lsyorke@...> wrote:

<<When this group does more than post on the internet about ssri's I

will accept this criticism. Until you are standing next to me at a

protest this all means nothing. How nice that you attack a person who

has put in so much time in getting the word out due to ONE quote in a

newspaper. Absolutely disgusting.Time for me to leave this board,

it's just not worth the aggravation.>>

** There are many more ways, than standing at a protest, to

tackle this issue and have an impact. In fact, to be effective we

MUST have a multi-pronged plan. Dismissing people's comments because

they were not there is not valid.

I've made financial donations twice to help Rob in his efforts. It

wasn't much, but it was what I could afford. Had I known his overall

opinion of psychiatric drugs I would not have made any donations and I

would have also taken action to contradict that opinion as I did

yesterday. I would do that no matter who it was that made that type

of statement. Rob doesn't get an exemption from being criticized for

his statement because he organized a protest. Why should he?

As far as " ONE " quote in the newspaper, it isn't the quantity, it's

the quality of the quote. That " ONE " little quote did more damage

than you obviously can appreciate.

" I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad. "

(Rob )

This kind of 'help' only helps those who seek to discredit the

message many of us have been delivering for so many years that

psychiatric drugs are indeed " bad " .

To those who say at least was doing something, what makes

you think that others haven't and aren't? is a relative

newcomer to the psychotropic drug issue. I've been working on it for

20 years in many different venues. I've given seminars, I've talked to

countless politicians, NIH personnel, even people at the FDA, and I've

worked with countless people to assist them in safely discontinuing

and recovering from the ravages of psychotropic drugs. I don't think

I need to stand in a protest line to have the right to speak up. I've

earned it.

Psycottish@... wrote:

<< We must not forget he made the choice to

do something. If another drug company has its office

in your city, make the same choice....If you are upset with Rob,

send him an email, ask him to explain himself. >>

** I sent my questions and comments directly to Rob. Again, I

don't have to stand in front of a drug company to have my efforts be

considered valid. We need to do many things to address the issue.

Perhaps when some of you who are critical of those of us who have

expressed our disappointment in Rob have put in the amount of time and

effort into this issue as we have, you'll understand our concerns and

criticism.

--

Creel

[Guest guest]

alright everyone's got a point, let's get back to Maggs and other's timely

words

and get back to biz on this. fighting amongst ourselfs only helps our

enemies.

I was disappointed but not enough to want Rob to stop or invalidate what he

did,

we are all doing the best we can and Rob has as much right as me or anyone

else to do it as he see's fit.

Rob and all those that went did a great thing and I want to leave it at

that.

There is something to having a moderate message. It reachs people that would

not otherwise glance at that media. Many people simply don't know what we

know and so cannot understand our apparently rabid stance. They don't know

because instead of looking for themselves they get herded like sheep by

sound bites and lying doctors. I would have done it differently but I didn't

do it, Rob and you others did it and God Bless all of you for doing it.

Sincerely,

Jim

" lsyorke " <lsyorke@...> wrote:

<<When this group does more than post on the internet about ssri's I

will accept this criticism. Until you are standing next to me at a

protest this all means nothing. How nice that you attack a person who

has put in so much time in getting the word out due to ONE quote in a

newspaper. Absolutely disgusting.Time for me to leave this board,

it's just not worth the aggravation.>>

** There are many more ways, than standing at a protest, to

tackle this issue and have an impact. In fact, to be effective we

MUST have a multi-pronged plan. Dismissing people's comments because

they were not there is not valid.

I've made financial donations twice to help Rob in his efforts. It

wasn't much, but it was what I could afford. Had I known his overall

opinion of psychiatric drugs I would not have made any donations and I

would have also taken action to contradict that opinion as I did

yesterday. I would do that no matter who it was that made that type

of statement. Rob doesn't get an exemption from being criticized for

his statement because he organized a protest. Why should he?

As far as " ONE " quote in the newspaper, it isn't the quantity, it's

the quality of the quote. That " ONE " little quote did more damage

than you obviously can appreciate.

" I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad. "

(Rob )

This kind of 'help' only helps those who seek to discredit the

message many of us have been delivering for so many years that

psychiatric drugs are indeed " bad " .

To those who say at least was doing something, what makes

you think that others haven't and aren't? is a relative

newcomer to the psychotropic drug issue. I've been working on it for

20 years in many different venues. I've given seminars, I've talked to

countless politicians, NIH personnel, even people at the FDA, and I've

worked with countless people to assist them in safely discontinuing

and recovering from the ravages of psychotropic drugs. I don't think

I need to stand in a protest line to have the right to speak up. I've

earned it.

Psycottish@... wrote:

<< We must not forget he made the choice to

do something. If another drug company has its office

in your city, make the same choice....If you are upset with Rob,

send him an email, ask him to explain himself. >>

** I sent my questions and comments directly to Rob. Again, I

don't have to stand in front of a drug company to have my efforts be

considered valid. We need to do many things to address the issue.

Perhaps when some of you who are critical of those of us who have

expressed our disappointment in Rob have put in the amount of time and

effort into this issue as we have, you'll understand our concerns and

criticism.

--

Creel

[Guest guest]

alright everyone's got a point, let's get back to Maggs and other's timely

words

and get back to biz on this. fighting amongst ourselfs only helps our

enemies.

I was disappointed but not enough to want Rob to stop or invalidate what he

did,

we are all doing the best we can and Rob has as much right as me or anyone

else to do it as he see's fit.

Rob and all those that went did a great thing and I want to leave it at

that.

There is something to having a moderate message. It reachs people that would

not otherwise glance at that media. Many people simply don't know what we

know and so cannot understand our apparently rabid stance. They don't know

because instead of looking for themselves they get herded like sheep by

sound bites and lying doctors. I would have done it differently but I didn't

do it, Rob and you others did it and God Bless all of you for doing it.

Sincerely,

Jim

" lsyorke " <lsyorke@...> wrote:

<<When this group does more than post on the internet about ssri's I

will accept this criticism. Until you are standing next to me at a

protest this all means nothing. How nice that you attack a person who

has put in so much time in getting the word out due to ONE quote in a

newspaper. Absolutely disgusting.Time for me to leave this board,

it's just not worth the aggravation.>>

** There are many more ways, than standing at a protest, to

tackle this issue and have an impact. In fact, to be effective we

MUST have a multi-pronged plan. Dismissing people's comments because

they were not there is not valid.

I've made financial donations twice to help Rob in his efforts. It

wasn't much, but it was what I could afford. Had I known his overall

opinion of psychiatric drugs I would not have made any donations and I

would have also taken action to contradict that opinion as I did

yesterday. I would do that no matter who it was that made that type

of statement. Rob doesn't get an exemption from being criticized for

his statement because he organized a protest. Why should he?

As far as " ONE " quote in the newspaper, it isn't the quantity, it's

the quality of the quote. That " ONE " little quote did more damage

than you obviously can appreciate.

" I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad. "

(Rob )

This kind of 'help' only helps those who seek to discredit the

message many of us have been delivering for so many years that

psychiatric drugs are indeed " bad " .

To those who say at least was doing something, what makes

you think that others haven't and aren't? is a relative

newcomer to the psychotropic drug issue. I've been working on it for

20 years in many different venues. I've given seminars, I've talked to

countless politicians, NIH personnel, even people at the FDA, and I've

worked with countless people to assist them in safely discontinuing

and recovering from the ravages of psychotropic drugs. I don't think

I need to stand in a protest line to have the right to speak up. I've

earned it.

Psycottish@... wrote:

<< We must not forget he made the choice to

do something. If another drug company has its office

in your city, make the same choice....If you are upset with Rob,

send him an email, ask him to explain himself. >>

** I sent my questions and comments directly to Rob. Again, I

don't have to stand in front of a drug company to have my efforts be

considered valid. We need to do many things to address the issue.

Perhaps when some of you who are critical of those of us who have

expressed our disappointment in Rob have put in the amount of time and

effort into this issue as we have, you'll understand our concerns and

criticism.

--

Creel

[Guest guest]

alright everyone's got a point, let's get back to Maggs and other's timely

words

and get back to biz on this. fighting amongst ourselfs only helps our

enemies.

I was disappointed but not enough to want Rob to stop or invalidate what he

did,

we are all doing the best we can and Rob has as much right as me or anyone

else to do it as he see's fit.

Rob and all those that went did a great thing and I want to leave it at

that.

There is something to having a moderate message. It reachs people that would

not otherwise glance at that media. Many people simply don't know what we

know and so cannot understand our apparently rabid stance. They don't know

because instead of looking for themselves they get herded like sheep by

sound bites and lying doctors. I would have done it differently but I didn't

do it, Rob and you others did it and God Bless all of you for doing it.

Sincerely,

Jim

" lsyorke " <lsyorke@...> wrote:

<<When this group does more than post on the internet about ssri's I

will accept this criticism. Until you are standing next to me at a

protest this all means nothing. How nice that you attack a person who

has put in so much time in getting the word out due to ONE quote in a

newspaper. Absolutely disgusting.Time for me to leave this board,

it's just not worth the aggravation.>>

** There are many more ways, than standing at a protest, to

tackle this issue and have an impact. In fact, to be effective we

MUST have a multi-pronged plan. Dismissing people's comments because

they were not there is not valid.

I've made financial donations twice to help Rob in his efforts. It

wasn't much, but it was what I could afford. Had I known his overall

opinion of psychiatric drugs I would not have made any donations and I

would have also taken action to contradict that opinion as I did

yesterday. I would do that no matter who it was that made that type

of statement. Rob doesn't get an exemption from being criticized for

his statement because he organized a protest. Why should he?

As far as " ONE " quote in the newspaper, it isn't the quantity, it's

the quality of the quote. That " ONE " little quote did more damage

than you obviously can appreciate.

" I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad. "

(Rob )

This kind of 'help' only helps those who seek to discredit the

message many of us have been delivering for so many years that

psychiatric drugs are indeed " bad " .

To those who say at least was doing something, what makes

you think that others haven't and aren't? is a relative

newcomer to the psychotropic drug issue. I've been working on it for

20 years in many different venues. I've given seminars, I've talked to

countless politicians, NIH personnel, even people at the FDA, and I've

worked with countless people to assist them in safely discontinuing

and recovering from the ravages of psychotropic drugs. I don't think

I need to stand in a protest line to have the right to speak up. I've

earned it.

Psycottish@... wrote:

<< We must not forget he made the choice to

do something. If another drug company has its office

in your city, make the same choice....If you are upset with Rob,

send him an email, ask him to explain himself. >>

** I sent my questions and comments directly to Rob. Again, I

don't have to stand in front of a drug company to have my efforts be

considered valid. We need to do many things to address the issue.

Perhaps when some of you who are critical of those of us who have

expressed our disappointment in Rob have put in the amount of time and

effort into this issue as we have, you'll understand our concerns and

criticism.

--

Creel

[Guest guest]

alright everyone's got a point, let's get back to Maggs and other's timely

words

and get back to biz on this. fighting amongst ourselfs only helps our

enemies.

I was disappointed but not enough to want Rob to stop or invalidate what he

did,

we are all doing the best we can and Rob has as much right as me or anyone

else to do it as he see's fit.

Rob and all those that went did a great thing and I want to leave it at

that.

There is something to having a moderate message. It reachs people that would

not otherwise glance at that media. Many people simply don't know what we

know and so cannot understand our apparently rabid stance. They don't know

because instead of looking for themselves they get herded like sheep by

sound bites and lying doctors. I would have done it differently but I didn't

do it, Rob and you others did it and God Bless all of you for doing it.

Sincerely,

Jim

" lsyorke " <lsyorke@...> wrote:

<<When this group does more than post on the internet about ssri's I

will accept this criticism. Until you are standing next to me at a

protest this all means nothing. How nice that you attack a person who

has put in so much time in getting the word out due to ONE quote in a

newspaper. Absolutely disgusting.Time for me to leave this board,

it's just not worth the aggravation.>>

** There are many more ways, than standing at a protest, to

tackle this issue and have an impact. In fact, to be effective we

MUST have a multi-pronged plan. Dismissing people's comments because

they were not there is not valid.

I've made financial donations twice to help Rob in his efforts. It

wasn't much, but it was what I could afford. Had I known his overall

opinion of psychiatric drugs I would not have made any donations and I

would have also taken action to contradict that opinion as I did

yesterday. I would do that no matter who it was that made that type

of statement. Rob doesn't get an exemption from being criticized for

his statement because he organized a protest. Why should he?

As far as " ONE " quote in the newspaper, it isn't the quantity, it's

the quality of the quote. That " ONE " little quote did more damage

than you obviously can appreciate.

" I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad. "

(Rob )

This kind of 'help' only helps those who seek to discredit the

message many of us have been delivering for so many years that

psychiatric drugs are indeed " bad " .

To those who say at least was doing something, what makes

you think that others haven't and aren't? is a relative

newcomer to the psychotropic drug issue. I've been working on it for

20 years in many different venues. I've given seminars, I've talked to

countless politicians, NIH personnel, even people at the FDA, and I've

worked with countless people to assist them in safely discontinuing

and recovering from the ravages of psychotropic drugs. I don't think

I need to stand in a protest line to have the right to speak up. I've

earned it.

Psycottish@... wrote:

<< We must not forget he made the choice to

do something. If another drug company has its office

in your city, make the same choice....If you are upset with Rob,

send him an email, ask him to explain himself. >>

** I sent my questions and comments directly to Rob. Again, I

don't have to stand in front of a drug company to have my efforts be

considered valid. We need to do many things to address the issue.

Perhaps when some of you who are critical of those of us who have

expressed our disappointment in Rob have put in the amount of time and

effort into this issue as we have, you'll understand our concerns and

criticism.

--

Creel