Re: Drugs not necessarily bad?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th Street offices,

> , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga, Tenn., said he

> was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry overall. He rejected

> the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of psychiatry as

> " pseudoscience. "

>

> " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad, "

> said.

>

>

This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience and considering

that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I would think his

opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not just confined to

Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the havoc these drugs

are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured nothing, but they've

caused a whole lot of mayhem.

Blind Reason

A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe?

Think again.

" All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

~ Bob Dylan ~

[Guest guest]

I, of course, totally agree with you Glitter. Psych drugs are as bad if not

worse than mercury in vaccines. The very treatments that are supposed to

help are creating more trouble than if the medical industry simply quit

using the drugs in the first place. I would trade big profits for human

lives any day. Wish pharma would also.

Jim

> Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th Street offices,

> , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga, Tenn., said he

> was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry overall. He

rejected

> the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of psychiatry as

> " pseudoscience. "

>

> " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad, "

> said.

>

>

This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience and

considering

that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I would think his

opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not just confined

to

Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the havoc these

drugs

are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured nothing, but they've

caused a whole lot of mayhem.

Blind Reason

A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe?

Think again.

" All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

~ Bob Dylan ~

[Guest guest]

I found it hard to believe what I had read and allowed some time for

a correction to appear.

I just wish the " paxil mafia " would get real & stop hogging the

media.

Paxil is bad........so too are all the rest of them.

> In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> > Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th Street

offices,

> > , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga,

Tenn., said he

> > was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry overall.

He rejected

> > the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of psychiatry

as

> > " pseudoscience. "

> >

> > " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad, "

> > said.

> >

> >

> This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience and

considering

> that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I would

think his

> opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not just

confined to

> Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the

havoc these drugs

> are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured nothing,

but they've

> caused a whole lot of mayhem.

>

> Blind Reason

> A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe?

> Think again.

>

>

> " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

> ~ Bob Dylan

~

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I found it hard to believe what I had read and allowed some time for

a correction to appear.

I just wish the " paxil mafia " would get real & stop hogging the

media.

Paxil is bad........so too are all the rest of them.

> In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> > Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th Street

offices,

> > , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga,

Tenn., said he

> > was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry overall.

He rejected

> > the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of psychiatry

as

> > " pseudoscience. "

> >

> > " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad, "

> > said.

> >

> >

> This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience and

considering

> that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I would

think his

> opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not just

confined to

> Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the

havoc these drugs

> are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured nothing,

but they've

> caused a whole lot of mayhem.

>

> Blind Reason

> A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe?

> Think again.

>

>

> " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

> ~ Bob Dylan

~

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I found it hard to believe what I had read and allowed some time for

a correction to appear.

I just wish the " paxil mafia " would get real & stop hogging the

media.

Paxil is bad........so too are all the rest of them.

> In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> > Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th Street

offices,

> > , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga,

Tenn., said he

> > was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry overall.

He rejected

> > the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of psychiatry

as

> > " pseudoscience. "

> >

> > " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad, "

> > said.

> >

> >

> This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience and

considering

> that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I would

think his

> opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not just

confined to

> Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the

havoc these drugs

> are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured nothing,

but they've

> caused a whole lot of mayhem.

>

> Blind Reason

> A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe?

> Think again.

>

>

> " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

> ~ Bob Dylan

~

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I found it hard to believe what I had read and allowed some time for

a correction to appear.

I just wish the " paxil mafia " would get real & stop hogging the

media.

Paxil is bad........so too are all the rest of them.

> In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> > Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th Street

offices,

> > , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga,

Tenn., said he

> > was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry overall.

He rejected

> > the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of psychiatry

as

> > " pseudoscience. "

> >

> > " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad, "

> > said.

> >

> >

> This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience and

considering

> that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I would

think his

> opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not just

confined to

> Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the

havoc these drugs

> are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured nothing,

but they've

> caused a whole lot of mayhem.

>

> Blind Reason

> A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe?

> Think again.

>

>

> " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

> ~ Bob Dylan

~

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

this is so insulting to those of us who are actually showing

up at protests whenever and whereever they are. Newspaper take

comments out of context... you KNOW that! The " paxil mafia " as you

put it took the time to GO TO THE PROTEST!! As well as other victims

of other ssri/snri's. You have the same opportunity to attend as I

did and tell your story. We " hog " the media because we FIGHT to get

the media attention to get the word to those who don't read message

boards.

Don't insult those to take their story beyond the computer.

> > In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> > SSRI medications writes:

> >

> >

> > > Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th Street

> offices,

> > > , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga,

> Tenn., said he

> > > was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry overall.

> He rejected

> > > the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of psychiatry

> as

> > > " pseudoscience. "

> > >

> > > " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily

bad, "

>

> > > said.

> > >

> > >

> > This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience and

> considering

> > that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I would

> think his

> > opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not just

> confined to

> > Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the

> havoc these drugs

> > are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured nothing,

> but they've

> > caused a whole lot of mayhem.

> >

> > Blind Reason

> > A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > Think your antidepressant is safe?

> > Think again.

> >

> >

> > " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

> > ~ Bob Dylan

> ~

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

this is so insulting to those of us who are actually showing

up at protests whenever and whereever they are. Newspaper take

comments out of context... you KNOW that! The " paxil mafia " as you

put it took the time to GO TO THE PROTEST!! As well as other victims

of other ssri/snri's. You have the same opportunity to attend as I

did and tell your story. We " hog " the media because we FIGHT to get

the media attention to get the word to those who don't read message

boards.

Don't insult those to take their story beyond the computer.

> > In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> > SSRI medications writes:

> >

> >

> > > Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th Street

> offices,

> > > , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga,

> Tenn., said he

> > > was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry overall.

> He rejected

> > > the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of psychiatry

> as

> > > " pseudoscience. "

> > >

> > > " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily

bad, "

>

> > > said.

> > >

> > >

> > This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience and

> considering

> > that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I would

> think his

> > opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not just

> confined to

> > Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the

> havoc these drugs

> > are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured nothing,

> but they've

> > caused a whole lot of mayhem.

> >

> > Blind Reason

> > A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > Think your antidepressant is safe?

> > Think again.

> >

> >

> > " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

> > ~ Bob Dylan

> ~

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I thought the Paxil Mafia was GSK and the psychs........

Jim

this is so insulting to those of us who are actually showing

up at protests whenever and whereever they are. Newspaper take

comments out of context... you KNOW that! The " paxil mafia " as you

put it took the time to GO TO THE PROTEST!! As well as other victims

of other ssri/snri's. You have the same opportunity to attend as I

did and tell your story. We " hog " the media because we FIGHT to get

the media attention to get the word to those who don't read message

boards.

Don't insult those to take their story beyond the computer.

> > In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> > SSRI medications writes:

> >

> >

> > > Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th Street

> offices,

> > > , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga,

> Tenn., said he

> > > was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry overall.

> He rejected

> > > the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of psychiatry

> as

> > > " pseudoscience. "

> > >

> > > " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily

bad, "

>

> > > said.

> > >

> > >

> > This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience and

> considering

> > that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I would

> think his

> > opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not just

> confined to

> > Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the

> havoc these drugs

> > are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured nothing,

> but they've

> > caused a whole lot of mayhem.

> >

> > Blind Reason

> > A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > Think your antidepressant is safe?

> > Think again.

> >

> >

> > " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

> > ~ Bob Dylan

> ~

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I thought the Paxil Mafia was GSK and the psychs........

Jim

this is so insulting to those of us who are actually showing

up at protests whenever and whereever they are. Newspaper take

comments out of context... you KNOW that! The " paxil mafia " as you

put it took the time to GO TO THE PROTEST!! As well as other victims

of other ssri/snri's. You have the same opportunity to attend as I

did and tell your story. We " hog " the media because we FIGHT to get

the media attention to get the word to those who don't read message

boards.

Don't insult those to take their story beyond the computer.

> > In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> > SSRI medications writes:

> >

> >

> > > Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th Street

> offices,

> > > , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga,

> Tenn., said he

> > > was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry overall.

> He rejected

> > > the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of psychiatry

> as

> > > " pseudoscience. "

> > >

> > > " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily

bad, "

>

> > > said.

> > >

> > >

> > This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience and

> considering

> > that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I would

> think his

> > opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not just

> confined to

> > Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the

> havoc these drugs

> > are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured nothing,

> but they've

> > caused a whole lot of mayhem.

> >

> > Blind Reason

> > A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > Think your antidepressant is safe?

> > Think again.

> >

> >

> > " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

> > ~ Bob Dylan

> ~

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It is Paxil they are talking about because they are

in front of GSK who makes Paxil. It wouldnt make sense

to protest Zoloft or Prozac there.

__________________________________

- PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

http://mail.

[Guest guest]

It is Paxil they are talking about because they are

in front of GSK who makes Paxil. It wouldnt make sense

to protest Zoloft or Prozac there.

__________________________________

- PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

http://mail.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Maggs for putting it into perspective

It is Paxil they are talking about because they are

in front of GSK who makes Paxil. It wouldnt make sense

to protest Zoloft or Prozac there.

__________________________________

- PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

http://mail.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Maggs for putting it into perspective

It is Paxil they are talking about because they are

in front of GSK who makes Paxil. It wouldnt make sense

to protest Zoloft or Prozac there.

__________________________________

- PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

http://mail.

[Guest guest]

lsyorke " <lsyorke@...> wrote:

<< this is so insulting to those of us who are actually showing

up at protests whenever and whereever they are. Newspaper take

comments out of context... you KNOW that! >>

** It was a complete quote. Newspapers do not put quotation

marks around ther own interpretations of comments. They must put

exactly what the person being quoted said.

<<The " paxil mafia " as you

put it took the time to GO TO THE PROTEST!! >>

** Yes, and it's too bad. had an opportunity to make a

difference. He blew it.

--

[Guest guest]

When this group does more than post on the internet about ssri's I

will accept this criticism. Until you are standing next to me at a

protest this all means nothing. How nice that you attack a person who

has put in so much time in getting the word out due to ONE quote in a

newspaper. Absolutely disgusting.Time for me to leave this board,

it's just not worth the aggravation.

>

> << this is so insulting to those of us who are actually

showing

> up at protests whenever and whereever they are. Newspaper take

> comments out of context... you KNOW that! >>

>

>

> ** It was a complete quote. Newspapers do not put quotation

> marks around ther own interpretations of comments. They must put

> exactly what the person being quoted said.

>

>

>

> <<The " paxil mafia " as you

> put it took the time to GO TO THE PROTEST!! >>

>

>

> ** Yes, and it's too bad. had an opportunity to make a

> difference. He blew it.

>

> --

>

>

[Guest guest]

When this group does more than post on the internet about ssri's I

will accept this criticism. Until you are standing next to me at a

protest this all means nothing. How nice that you attack a person who

has put in so much time in getting the word out due to ONE quote in a

newspaper. Absolutely disgusting.Time for me to leave this board,

it's just not worth the aggravation.

>

> << this is so insulting to those of us who are actually

showing

> up at protests whenever and whereever they are. Newspaper take

> comments out of context... you KNOW that! >>

>

>

> ** It was a complete quote. Newspapers do not put quotation

> marks around ther own interpretations of comments. They must put

> exactly what the person being quoted said.

>

>

>

> <<The " paxil mafia " as you

> put it took the time to GO TO THE PROTEST!! >>

>

>

> ** Yes, and it's too bad. had an opportunity to make a

> difference. He blew it.

>

> --

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I think your anger is misaimed. I was at the

DC protest, and I was asked if I felt that these drugs

sould be banned. I said I was for full disclosure. I

was told I was avoiding the question, and then

dismissed as a scientologist. I have nothing against

scientology, but to the Drug's media informed public,

scientology has become the scape goat for big Pharma.

If the drug co's with the help of their advertising

department can paint protesters with this brush, They

get the sympathy of the public. It is not fair that

Scientology takes this in the neck, but the Drug Co's

are happy to pass the buck. It is a fine line to walk,

and an even finer one if you are a scientologist. If

you were there and heard the tone of the question, or

in what context it was asked, or how the answer was

edited you may be on a different side.

My sons court case, the reporter admited my

statement in the court was taken out of context,by his

editor, but it was what I said. When he told his

editor He thought My statement about SSRI's and

suicide needs to be looked into, he was told I was

looking for excuses. Six months later, SSRI suicide

link was a huge story.

__________________________________

- PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

http://mail.

[Guest guest]

,

I think your anger is misaimed. I was at the

DC protest, and I was asked if I felt that these drugs

sould be banned. I said I was for full disclosure. I

was told I was avoiding the question, and then

dismissed as a scientologist. I have nothing against

scientology, but to the Drug's media informed public,

scientology has become the scape goat for big Pharma.

If the drug co's with the help of their advertising

department can paint protesters with this brush, They

get the sympathy of the public. It is not fair that

Scientology takes this in the neck, but the Drug Co's

are happy to pass the buck. It is a fine line to walk,

and an even finer one if you are a scientologist. If

you were there and heard the tone of the question, or

in what context it was asked, or how the answer was

edited you may be on a different side.

My sons court case, the reporter admited my

statement in the court was taken out of context,by his

editor, but it was what I said. When he told his

editor He thought My statement about SSRI's and

suicide needs to be looked into, he was told I was

looking for excuses. Six months later, SSRI suicide

link was a huge story.

__________________________________

- PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

http://mail.

[Guest guest]

I would welcome your comments on Rob 's statement.

I don't believe that I have taken things out of context

(nevertheless I'll stand to be corrected)

further

I allowed reasonable time to see if the press had misquoted Rob.

I note you accept that your lot " Hog the Media "

You seem to imply that I don't take the story beyond the computer,

please check your facts.

> > > In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> > > SSRI medications writes:

> > >

> > >

> > > > Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th

Street

> > offices,

> > > > , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga,

> > Tenn., said he

> > > > was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry

overall.

> > He rejected

> > > > the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of

psychiatry

> > as

> > > > " pseudoscience. "

> > > >

> > > > " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily

> bad, "

> >

> > > > said.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience

and

> > considering

> > > that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I

would

> > think his

> > > opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not

just

> > confined to

> > > Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the

> > havoc these drugs

> > > are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured

nothing,

> > but they've

> > > caused a whole lot of mayhem.

> > >

> > > Blind Reason

> > > A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > > Think your antidepressant is safe?

> > > Think again.

> > >

> > >

> > > " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

> > > ~ Bob Dylan

> > ~

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

.........and who stood with me during the dark hours when I had to

defend myself through 22 court hearings as the local Chief of

Psychiatry tried to smear me, tried to criminalise me, tried to get

the courts to place me under a hospital order?

A Psychiatrist that arranged for the subversion of my family unit at

a time I was going through the withdrawal from not one drug but a

cocktail of five !

A Psychistrist that set out to discredit me in order that I might

not reasonably tell my story to one and all that my problem was his

medicine !

Were you there?

ofcourse not you were thousands of miles away in America

So you couldn't be there when I won my action at the Court of

Appeal & changed the case law in my country.

I did not cop out

> >

> > << this is so insulting to those of us who are actually

> showing

> > up at protests whenever and whereever they are. Newspaper take

> > comments out of context... you KNOW that! >>

> >

> >

> > ** It was a complete quote. Newspapers do not put quotation

> > marks around ther own interpretations of comments. They must put

> > exactly what the person being quoted said.

> >

> >

> >

> > <<The " paxil mafia " as you

> > put it took the time to GO TO THE PROTEST!! >>

> >

> >

> > ** Yes, and it's too bad. had an opportunity to

make a

> > difference. He blew it.

> >

> > --

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

.........and who stood with me during the dark hours when I had to

defend myself through 22 court hearings as the local Chief of

Psychiatry tried to smear me, tried to criminalise me, tried to get

the courts to place me under a hospital order?

A Psychiatrist that arranged for the subversion of my family unit at

a time I was going through the withdrawal from not one drug but a

cocktail of five !

A Psychistrist that set out to discredit me in order that I might

not reasonably tell my story to one and all that my problem was his

medicine !

Were you there?

ofcourse not you were thousands of miles away in America

So you couldn't be there when I won my action at the Court of

Appeal & changed the case law in my country.

I did not cop out

> >

> > << this is so insulting to those of us who are actually

> showing

> > up at protests whenever and whereever they are. Newspaper take

> > comments out of context... you KNOW that! >>

> >

> >

> > ** It was a complete quote. Newspapers do not put quotation

> > marks around ther own interpretations of comments. They must put

> > exactly what the person being quoted said.

> >

> >

> >

> > <<The " paxil mafia " as you

> > put it took the time to GO TO THE PROTEST!! >>

> >

> >

> > ** Yes, and it's too bad. had an opportunity to

make a

> > difference. He blew it.

> >

> > --

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> > > In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> > > SSRI medications writes:

> > >

> > >

> > > > Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th

Street

> > offices,

> > > > , 45, a former general contractor from Chattanooga,

> > Tenn., said he

> > > > was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry

overall.

> > He rejected

> > > > the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of

psychiatry

> > as

> > > > " pseudoscience. "

> > > >

> > > > " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily

> bad, "

> >

> > > > said.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is pseudoscience

and

> > considering

> > > that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I

would

> > think his

> > > opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not

just

> > confined to

> > > Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see the

> > havoc these drugs

> > > are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured

nothing,

> > but they've

> > > caused a whole lot of mayhem.

> > >

> > > Blind Reason

> > > A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > > Think your antidepressant is safe?

> > > Think again.

> > >

> > >

> > > " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

> > > ~ Bob Dylan

> > ~

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I see that Paxil sales have fallen in the UK but what you need to

understand that when I and others spoke to people I made sure that

they understood Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, Prozac etc were all just as

bad.

I know we are all frustrated by the slow progress and the deception

and for many the persicution. This is not a situation where Paxil

was singled out as the ugly stepsister and everything else was fine.

In fact there were many people that stopped and would say I take

Zoloft or Prozac or whatever else what can you tell me about that?

Rob chose Paxil and GSK because it was the drug that impacted him.

That doesn't mean that he isn't aware of the dangers involved with

the rest. As a matter of fact there were bumper Stickers there that

Rob paid for that said Zoloft Unsafe at any dose as well as Prozac

and others.

Nobody here has forgotten you and nobody here expects you to make a

special trip from the UK for a protest but please don't create a

mental image of the context of the protest by what you read in a

newspaper article.

Charlie

> > > > In a message dated 9/28/05 9:22:53 AM Mountain Daylight

Time,

> > > > SSRI medications writes:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Standing with his wife in front of the drugmaker's 16th

> Street

> > > offices,

> > > > > , 45, a former general contractor from

Chattanooga,

> > > Tenn., said he

> > > > > was not opposed to prescription drugs or to psychiatry

> overall.

> > > He rejected

> > > > > the actor Tom Cruise's well-publicized criticism of

> psychiatry

> > > as

> > > > > " pseudoscience. "

> > > > >

> > > > > " I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily

> > bad, "

> > >

> > > > > said.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > This statement really shocks me. Psychiatry is

pseudoscience

> and

> > > considering

> > > > that Rob's father committed suicide while taking Zoloft, I

> would

> > > think his

> > > > opinion of all psychiatric drugs would be more critical, not

> just

> > > confined to

> > > > Paxil. One only needs to read the daily newspapers to see

the

> > > havoc these drugs

> > > > are wreaking on society. Psychiatric drugs have cured

> nothing,

> > > but they've

> > > > caused a whole lot of mayhem.

> > > >

> > > > Blind Reason

> > > > A novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > > > Think your antidepressant is safe?

> > > > Think again.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie. "

> > > > ~ Bob

Dylan

> > > ~

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

" lsyorke " <lsyorke@...> wrote:

<<When this group does more than post on the internet about ssri's I

will accept this criticism. Until you are standing next to me at a

protest this all means nothing. How nice that you attack a person who

has put in so much time in getting the word out due to ONE quote in a

newspaper. Absolutely disgusting.Time for me to leave this board,

it's just not worth the aggravation.>>

** There are many more ways, than standing at a protest, to

tackle this issue and have an impact. In fact, to be effective we

MUST have a multi-pronged plan. Dismissing people's comments because

they were not there is not valid.

I've made financial donations twice to help Rob in his efforts. It

wasn't much, but it was what I could afford. Had I known his overall

opinion of psychiatric drugs I would not have made any donations and I

would have also taken action to contradict that opinion as I did

yesterday. I would do that no matter who it was that made that type

of statement. Rob doesn't get an exemption from being criticized for

his statement because he organized a protest. Why should he?

As far as " ONE " quote in the newspaper, it isn't the quantity, it's

the quality of the quote. That " ONE " little quote did more damage

than you obviously can appreciate.

" I don't think the use of psychiatric drugs is necessarily bad. "

(Rob )

This kind of 'help' only helps those who seek to discredit the

message many of us have been delivering for so many years that

psychiatric drugs are indeed " bad " .

To those who say at least was doing something, what makes

you think that others haven't and aren't? is a relative

newcomer to the psychotropic drug issue. I've been working on it for

20 years in many different venues. I've given seminars, I've talked to

countless politicians, NIH personnel, even people at the FDA, and I've

worked with countless people to assist them in safely discontinuing

and recovering from the ravages of psychotropic drugs. I don't think

I need to stand in a protest line to have the right to speak up. I've

earned it.

Psycottish@... wrote:

<< We must not forget he made the choice to

do something. If another drug company has its office

in your city, make the same choice....If you are upset with Rob,

send him an email, ask him to explain himself. >>

** I sent my questions and comments directly to Rob. Again, I

don't have to stand in front of a drug company to have my efforts be

considered valid. We need to do many things to address the issue.

Perhaps when some of you who are critical of those of us who have

expressed our disappointment in Rob have put in the amount of time and

effort into this issue as we have, you'll understand our concerns and

criticism.

--

Creel