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> Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have

know

> one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone

from

> 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the joints

of

> my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got

me on

> pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and

wait

> i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of

time

> befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> environmental health & safety manager for a construction company

and i

> am on the road alot.

> Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I want

all

> to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> kenny

>It is hard for others to understand what you are going through. I

am impressed you are still working, you are obviously a very strong

person. We are here for you.

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> Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have

know

> one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone

from

> 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the joints

of

> my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got

me on

> pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and

wait

> i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of

time

> befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> environmental health & safety manager for a construction company

and i

> am on the road alot.

> Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I want

all

> to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> kenny

>It is hard for others to understand what you are going through. I

am impressed you are still working, you are obviously a very strong

person. We are here for you.

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....i might have some things with at least some hope for you to check out if

you are at the point where you're ready to think, learn, and act outside the

box of big med where there doesn't appear to be much hope left for you. i'm

not going to waste my time prattling on about it unless say honestly you

seriously have the cahones and interest.

bobL

> The mean years

>

>

> Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have know

> one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone from

> 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the joints of

> my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got me on

> pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and wait

> i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of time

> befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> environmental health & safety manager for a construction company and i

> am on the road alot.

> Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I want all

> to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> kenny

>

>

>

>

>

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....i might have some things with at least some hope for you to check out if

you are at the point where you're ready to think, learn, and act outside the

box of big med where there doesn't appear to be much hope left for you. i'm

not going to waste my time prattling on about it unless say honestly you

seriously have the cahones and interest.

bobL

> The mean years

>

>

> Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have know

> one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone from

> 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the joints of

> my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got me on

> pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and wait

> i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of time

> befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> environmental health & safety manager for a construction company and i

> am on the road alot.

> Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I want all

> to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> kenny

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello Bob and Kenny,

Although some of the group has gone 'round and 'round about alternative

medicine, I tend to agree with Bob at this point. If conventional (and

proven, albeit not in 100% of the cases) therapy has failed, I would now

look outside of the box, so to speak, and look for other therapies.

Obviously, you have nothing to loose.

I've read some about silver and electro-therapy. If all else doesn't seem

to help, Kenny, I'd suggest writing Bob off-group and see what he has to

offer. Also, be sure and Google on some suggestions (and see what else may

be out there). I do honestly believe that there may be quite a bit with the

silver colloid, but I'd use that if conventional had failed (and, in your

case, it has).

Good luck with alternative treatment.

Best regards to all from Rochester, NY

Jim

The mean years

>

>

> Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have know

> one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone from

> 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the joints of

> my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got me on

> pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and wait

> i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of time

> befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> environmental health & safety manager for a construction company and i

> am on the road alot.

> Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I want all

> to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> kenny

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello Bob and Kenny,

Although some of the group has gone 'round and 'round about alternative

medicine, I tend to agree with Bob at this point. If conventional (and

proven, albeit not in 100% of the cases) therapy has failed, I would now

look outside of the box, so to speak, and look for other therapies.

Obviously, you have nothing to loose.

I've read some about silver and electro-therapy. If all else doesn't seem

to help, Kenny, I'd suggest writing Bob off-group and see what he has to

offer. Also, be sure and Google on some suggestions (and see what else may

be out there). I do honestly believe that there may be quite a bit with the

silver colloid, but I'd use that if conventional had failed (and, in your

case, it has).

Good luck with alternative treatment.

Best regards to all from Rochester, NY

Jim

The mean years

>

>

> Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have know

> one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone from

> 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the joints of

> my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got me on

> pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and wait

> i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of time

> befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> environmental health & safety manager for a construction company and i

> am on the road alot.

> Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I want all

> to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> kenny

>

>

>

>

>

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I have found this group comforting as far as having people to share with. I

have not wanted to bore my partner too much, so the group has been good in that

way.

cococomb <cococomb@...> wrote:

>

> Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have

know

> one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone

from

> 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the joints

of

> my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got

me on

> pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and

wait

> i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of

time

> befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> environmental health & safety manager for a construction company

and i

> am on the road alot.

> Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I want

all

> to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> kenny

>It is hard for others to understand what you are going through. I

am impressed you are still working, you are obviously a very strong

person. We are here for you.

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I have found this group comforting as far as having people to share with. I

have not wanted to bore my partner too much, so the group has been good in that

way.

cococomb <cococomb@...> wrote:

>

> Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have

know

> one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone

from

> 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the joints

of

> my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got

me on

> pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and

wait

> i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of

time

> befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> environmental health & safety manager for a construction company

and i

> am on the road alot.

> Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I want

all

> to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> kenny

>It is hard for others to understand what you are going through. I

am impressed you are still working, you are obviously a very strong

person. We are here for you.

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Dear Kenny,

How long have you known that you had hep c?

If you don't mind my asking, did your dr. say you and your wife have

to use protection for sex?

I'm so sorry that you're having such a rough time of this.

Does it mean that you have the genotype that doesn't respond well to

treatment? I read about that recently. I don't know what kind of

genotype my husband has. I don't know yet if I have it either.

He sees the gastro. on Wed.

Isn't the pain medicine also bad for the liver? I'm sorry I'm asking

so many questions...but please feel free to write anytime. It's

necessary to talk to people about what's going on. I find it helps

deal with situations better if we can verbalize it to someone.

I hope you feel better,

Chickadee

>

> Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have

know

> one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone

from

> 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the joints

of

> my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got

me on

> pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and

wait

> i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of

time

> befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> environmental health & safety manager for a construction company

and i

> am on the road alot.

> Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I want

all

> to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> kenny

>

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I found out in 93 did two years of treatments no good the doc. said

nothing about protected sex and we never have. I am very carful when

it come to my blood if i have a cut and get blood on counter top and

such i always use bleach to clean up. I reasently heard about

infergen I its being used on non-responders and re-lapsers I talked

to my doc about it he says no it is to strong for my current

codistion so I am going to see a new doc. next week

- - In Hepatitis C , " justcallmechickadee "

<janeenmodean@...> wrote:

>

> Dear Kenny,

> How long have you known that you had hep c?

> If you don't mind my asking, did your dr. say you and your wife

have

> to use protection for sex?

> I'm so sorry that you're having such a rough time of this.

> Does it mean that you have the genotype that doesn't respond well

to

> treatment? I read about that recently. I don't know what kind of

> genotype my husband has. I don't know yet if I have it either.

> He sees the gastro. on Wed.

> Isn't the pain medicine also bad for the liver? I'm sorry I'm

asking

> so many questions...but please feel free to write anytime. It's

> necessary to talk to people about what's going on. I find it helps

> deal with situations better if we can verbalize it to someone.

> I hope you feel better,

> Chickadee

>

>

> >

> > Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have

> know

> > one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> > i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> > rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone

> from

> > 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the

joints

> of

> > my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got

> me on

> > pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and

> wait

> > i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of

> time

> > befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> > environmental health & safety manager for a construction company

> and i

> > am on the road alot.

> > Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I

want

> all

> > to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> > kenny

> >

>

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Dear Kenny,

Let me know what your new dr. says.

I really hope this works out for you.

Chickadee

> > >

> > > Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I

have

> > know

> > > one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> > > i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through

4

> > > rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone

> > from

> > > 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the

> joints

> > of

> > > my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc.

got

> > me on

> > > pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that

and

> > wait

> > > i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter

of

> > time

> > > befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> > > environmental health & safety manager for a construction

company

> > and i

> > > am on the road alot.

> > > Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I

> want

> > all

> > > to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> > > kenny

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Kenny,

Let me know what your new dr. says.

I really hope this works out for you.

Chickadee

> > >

> > > Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I

have

> > know

> > > one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> > > i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through

4

> > > rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone

> > from

> > > 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the

> joints

> > of

> > > my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc.

got

> > me on

> > > pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that

and

> > wait

> > > i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter

of

> > time

> > > befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> > > environmental health & safety manager for a construction

company

> > and i

> > > am on the road alot.

> > > Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I

> want

> > all

> > > to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> > > kenny

> > >

> >

>

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kenny, there's things you can do to try to improve your current condition

that might make all the difference. even if you're stage 4 liver cancer.

if you make the effort, do the work, you might get surprising improvement by

the time the new protease inhibitors come available in a year or three, and

they're showing awesome success in trials. ask your new doc about the

vx-950 (or whatever it's called) and check him out for open mindedness is

alternative techniques to address current conditions to get you up to par

for another go.

if he laughs off the alternative approaches as bunk, shop for another doc

.... find one that's up to speed in the real world and is really about

patient welfare.

that's my perspective, for what it's worth.

cheers,

bobL

> Re: The mean years

>

>

> I found out in 93 did two years of treatments no good the doc. said

> nothing about protected sex and we never have. I am very carful when

> it come to my blood if i have a cut and get blood on counter top and

> such i always use bleach to clean up. I reasently heard about

> infergen I its being used on non-responders and re-lapsers I talked

> to my doc about it he says no it is to strong for my current

> codistion so I am going to see a new doc. next week

> - - In Hepatitis C , " justcallmechickadee "

> <janeenmodean@...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kenny,

> > How long have you known that you had hep c?

> > If you don't mind my asking, did your dr. say you and your wife

> have

> > to use protection for sex?

> > I'm so sorry that you're having such a rough time of this.

> > Does it mean that you have the genotype that doesn't respond well

> to

> > treatment? I read about that recently. I don't know what kind of

> > genotype my husband has. I don't know yet if I have it either.

> > He sees the gastro. on Wed.

> > Isn't the pain medicine also bad for the liver? I'm sorry I'm

> asking

> > so many questions...but please feel free to write anytime. It's

> > necessary to talk to people about what's going on. I find it helps

> > deal with situations better if we can verbalize it to someone.

> > I hope you feel better,

> > Chickadee

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have

> > know

> > > one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> > > i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> > > rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone

> > from

> > > 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the

> joints

> > of

> > > my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got

> > me on

> > > pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and

> > wait

> > > i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of

> > time

> > > befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> > > environmental health & safety manager for a construction company

> > and i

> > > am on the road alot.

> > > Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I

> want

> > all

> > > to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> > > kenny

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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kenny, there's things you can do to try to improve your current condition

that might make all the difference. even if you're stage 4 liver cancer.

if you make the effort, do the work, you might get surprising improvement by

the time the new protease inhibitors come available in a year or three, and

they're showing awesome success in trials. ask your new doc about the

vx-950 (or whatever it's called) and check him out for open mindedness is

alternative techniques to address current conditions to get you up to par

for another go.

if he laughs off the alternative approaches as bunk, shop for another doc

.... find one that's up to speed in the real world and is really about

patient welfare.

that's my perspective, for what it's worth.

cheers,

bobL

> Re: The mean years

>

>

> I found out in 93 did two years of treatments no good the doc. said

> nothing about protected sex and we never have. I am very carful when

> it come to my blood if i have a cut and get blood on counter top and

> such i always use bleach to clean up. I reasently heard about

> infergen I its being used on non-responders and re-lapsers I talked

> to my doc about it he says no it is to strong for my current

> codistion so I am going to see a new doc. next week

> - - In Hepatitis C , " justcallmechickadee "

> <janeenmodean@...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kenny,

> > How long have you known that you had hep c?

> > If you don't mind my asking, did your dr. say you and your wife

> have

> > to use protection for sex?

> > I'm so sorry that you're having such a rough time of this.

> > Does it mean that you have the genotype that doesn't respond well

> to

> > treatment? I read about that recently. I don't know what kind of

> > genotype my husband has. I don't know yet if I have it either.

> > He sees the gastro. on Wed.

> > Isn't the pain medicine also bad for the liver? I'm sorry I'm

> asking

> > so many questions...but please feel free to write anytime. It's

> > necessary to talk to people about what's going on. I find it helps

> > deal with situations better if we can verbalize it to someone.

> > I hope you feel better,

> > Chickadee

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hey everyone first time ever doing something like this but I have

> > know

> > > one to talk to my wife tries to understand but its hard for her.

> > > i have had HCV for 30 years im almost at the end i went through 4

> > > rounds of combo treatments no good my log count is 9.5 I'v gone

> > from

> > > 185 lbs to 140 in about 2 months the hcv has setteled in the

> joints

> > of

> > > my hands knees and elbos some days i can hardly move the doc. got

> > me on

> > > pain management (drugs) says thats all we can do for now that and

> > wait

> > > i go every 90 days and test for cancer doc. says its a matter of

> > time

> > > befor it shows up im still working thats kind of hard i am a

> > > environmental health & safety manager for a construction company

> > and i

> > > am on the road alot.

> > > Well thats all for now thanks for allowing to spill my guts I

> want

> > all

> > > to know there is always hope and thats what im waiting for.

> > > kenny

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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