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Franz,

That is the exact same thing I heard. I remember the first time I

'heard' Dr. Misra on the Hepatitis Central weekly chat I asked the question

'What is a high viral count' and he responded with 2 million.

Claudine

>From: " Franz " <franzm@...>

>

>Hi Connie,

>

>Regarding your question: " What is a high viral count? " , here is all I know:

> Admittedly, the words " high " and " low " are somewhat subjective. But

>according to what I've been told, " high " usually refers to a count of 2

>million or more; " low " usually refers to a count of under one million. My

>count, before starting combo, was between one and two million -- thus,

>mid-range, neither high nor low. Does anyone have a more precise answer

>for this?

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Hi Connie,

Regarding your question: " What is a high viral count? " , here is all I know:

Admittedly, the words " high " and " low " are somewhat subjective. But according to

what I've been told, " high " usually refers to a count of 2 million or more;

" low " usually refers to a count of under one million. My count, before starting

combo, was between one and two million -- thus, mid-range, neither high nor low.

Does anyone have a more precise answer for this?

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Well, I guess mine was really high then was 12.5

million and after almost 6 months had dropped to

350,000. I am in the process od the blood work again

waiting to hear results. I have been off of Combo

since October 1st, 1999. It was for reasons beyond my

control. I wish blood work would come back and it be

gone. But, after reading these posts and things I

guess I am just a dreamer......Thanks Franz,....Connie

--- Franz <franzm@...> wrote:

> Hi Connie,

>

> Regarding your question: " What is a high viral

> count? " , here is all I know: Admittedly, the words

> " high " and " low " are somewhat subjective. But

> according to what I've been told, " high " usually

> refers to a count of 2 million or more; " low "

> usually refers to a count of under one million. My

> count, before starting combo, was between one and

> two million -- thus, mid-range, neither high nor

> low. Does anyone have a more precise answer for

> this?

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Why was mine so high?

--- Claudine Crews <claudinecrews@...> wrote:

> Franz,

> That is the exact same thing I heard. I

> remember the first time I

> 'heard' Dr. Misra on the Hepatitis Central weekly

> chat I asked the question

> 'What is a high viral count' and he responded with 2

> million.

> Claudine

> >From: " Franz " <franzm@...>

> >

> >Hi Connie,

> >

> >Regarding your question: " What is a high viral

> count? " , here is all I know:

> > Admittedly, the words " high " and " low " are

> somewhat subjective. But

> >according to what I've been told, " high " usually

> refers to a count of 2

> >million or more; " low " usually refers to a count of

> under one million. My

> >count, before starting combo, was between one and

> two million -- thus,

> >mid-range, neither high nor low. Does anyone have

> a more precise answer

> >for this?

>

>

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Why was mine so high?

--- Claudine Crews <claudinecrews@...> wrote:

> Franz,

> That is the exact same thing I heard. I

> remember the first time I

> 'heard' Dr. Misra on the Hepatitis Central weekly

> chat I asked the question

> 'What is a high viral count' and he responded with 2

> million.

> Claudine

> >From: " Franz " <franzm@...>

> >

> >Hi Connie,

> >

> >Regarding your question: " What is a high viral

> count? " , here is all I know:

> > Admittedly, the words " high " and " low " are

> somewhat subjective. But

> >according to what I've been told, " high " usually

> refers to a count of 2

> >million or more; " low " usually refers to a count of

> under one million. My

> >count, before starting combo, was between one and

> two million -- thus,

> >mid-range, neither high nor low. Does anyone have

> a more precise answer

> >for this?

>

>

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Has anyone heard if the girls husband that is in jail

got his meds yet....I keep telling her go to the media

because it has happened with Pinellas County, FL Jails

a lot with different things and people have died she

needs to get it out to the public.....Connie

--- Claudine Crews <claudinecrews@...> wrote:

> Franz,

> That is the exact same thing I heard. I

> remember the first time I

> 'heard' Dr. Misra on the Hepatitis Central weekly

> chat I asked the question

> 'What is a high viral count' and he responded with 2

> million.

> Claudine

> >From: " Franz " <franzm@...>

> >

> >Hi Connie,

> >

> >Regarding your question: " What is a high viral

> count? " , here is all I know:

> > Admittedly, the words " high " and " low " are

> somewhat subjective. But

> >according to what I've been told, " high " usually

> refers to a count of 2

> >million or more; " low " usually refers to a count of

> under one million. My

> >count, before starting combo, was between one and

> two million -- thus,

> >mid-range, neither high nor low. Does anyone have

> a more precise answer

> >for this?

>

>

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Has anyone heard if the girls husband that is in jail

got his meds yet....I keep telling her go to the media

because it has happened with Pinellas County, FL Jails

a lot with different things and people have died she

needs to get it out to the public.....Connie

--- Claudine Crews <claudinecrews@...> wrote:

> Franz,

> That is the exact same thing I heard. I

> remember the first time I

> 'heard' Dr. Misra on the Hepatitis Central weekly

> chat I asked the question

> 'What is a high viral count' and he responded with 2

> million.

> Claudine

> >From: " Franz " <franzm@...>

> >

> >Hi Connie,

> >

> >Regarding your question: " What is a high viral

> count? " , here is all I know:

> > Admittedly, the words " high " and " low " are

> somewhat subjective. But

> >according to what I've been told, " high " usually

> refers to a count of 2

> >million or more; " low " usually refers to a count of

> under one million. My

> >count, before starting combo, was between one and

> two million -- thus,

> >mid-range, neither high nor low. Does anyone have

> a more precise answer

> >for this?

>

>

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Dear Connie,

There is no way to know the answer to that. But believe me, many

people have high viral counts. Remember, there is no correlation between

high viral count and how much damage there is in your liver. You can have a

viral count of 100,000 and already have cirrhosis. The viral count is just

good to know in order to see if treatment is working or not.

Claudine

>From: Constance Dickson <constance_clearwater_florida@...>

)

>

>Why was mine so high?

>

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Doctor,

Please advise for the following :

The viral load of my wife( 43 years)is 100,000.

The LFT values are marginally above the limits.

Symptoms are not noticed.

I wanted to wait till PEG.IFN is available in India.

Her diet is no fat-no iron- more of protien & fruits.

is it ok.-regards

gyani.

HCV RNA > 2 mu is high viral load

< 1 mu is low

< 100 is undetectable

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>From: " gnanasekar sekar " <gnanasekar_d@...>

Doctor,

>

> Please advise for the following :

> The viral load of my wife( 43 years)is 100,000.

> The LFT values are marginally above the limits.

> Symptoms are not noticed.

> I wanted to wait till PEG.IFN is available in India.

> Her diet is no fat-no iron- more of protien & fruits.

> is it ok.-regards

> gyani.

Dear gyani,

I know your question was addressed to the doctor but I was wondering -

Has your wife had a biopsy done?

Claudine

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>HCV RNA > 2 mu is high viral load

> < 1 mu is low

> < 100 is undetectable

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Hi Doc,

I just got bloodwork results back can you help me

they are different from the ones that I received from

Dr when on Combo before.

I am Genotype 1a

HCV RNA QUANITATION (bDNA) Hepatitis C Virus RNA

Result: 29.0 H MEq/#1

ref. range (0.2

then it says

One million copies of HCV RNA are equal to one MEq/#1

of HCV RNA.

--- Doc <gidoc@...> wrote:

> Yes, this is correct.

>

> HCV RNA > 2 mu is high viral load

> < 1 mu is low

> < 100 is undetectable

>

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--Dear claudine,

Thank you asking this. I am only waiting to go into the

process of treatment on getting the latest medicine,as the

symptoms are not noticed.

Once I take the biopsy I must decide to go in for the

treatment immediate,However I am agreeing to take biopsy

at the earliest.

regards- gyani

Dear gyani,

I know your question was addressed to the doctor but I was wondering -

Has your wife had a biopsy done?

Claudine

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>HCV RNA > 2 mu is high viral load

> < 1 mu is low

> < 100 is undetectable

>

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--Dear claudine,

Thank you asking this. I am only waiting to go into the

process of treatment on getting the latest medicine,as the

symptoms are not noticed.

Once I take the biopsy I must decide to go in for the

treatment immediate,However I am agreeing to take biopsy

at the earliest.

regards- gyani

Dear gyani,

I know your question was addressed to the doctor but I was wondering -

Has your wife had a biopsy done?

Claudine

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>HCV RNA > 2 mu is high viral load

> < 1 mu is low

> < 100 is undetectable

>

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>From: " gnanasekar sekar " <gnanasekar_d@...

>--Dear claudine,

>

> Thank you asking this. I am only waiting to go into the

> process of treatment on getting the latest medicine,as the

> symptoms are not noticed.

>

> Once I take the biopsy I must decide to go in for the

> treatment immediate,However I am agreeing to take biopsy

> at the earliest.

>

> regards- gyani

>

>Dear gyani,

That is probably a good idea since it is the information you learn

from the biopsy that will guide you on whether to get treatment now or if

you can wait.

Claudine

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>From: " gnanasekar sekar " <gnanasekar_d@...

>--Dear claudine,

>

> Thank you asking this. I am only waiting to go into the

> process of treatment on getting the latest medicine,as the

> symptoms are not noticed.

>

> Once I take the biopsy I must decide to go in for the

> treatment immediate,However I am agreeing to take biopsy

> at the earliest.

>

> regards- gyani

>

>Dear gyani,

That is probably a good idea since it is the information you learn

from the biopsy that will guide you on whether to get treatment now or if

you can wait.

Claudine

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>From: " Constance Dickson " <constance_clearwater_florida@...

> > I asked about the ALT and AST and he told me that was

> > not important. Needless to say I really do not have

> > much faith in this Dr. When he wrote out script for

> > bloodwork he forgot to put quanitive on it and

> > something else (don't remember at the moment)and I

> > brought it to his attention and he looked at me

> > surprised and said Thanks they would have been calling

> > me. I also asked him if the ALT and AST was not

> > important then why when I was on combo before with

> > insurance from work they did weekly bloodwork for the

> > ALT and AST. He had no answer to that. Last ALT and

> > AST that I know was done in Nov/99 for preop bloodwork

> > and was 148/126 (bilateral CPS, I am inoperable

> > because of bleeding time greater than 3 times normal.

> > Platelets were at 128 though they said was being

> > caused by something having an aspirin like effect on

> > my blood). I also have Congenital ITP. When checked

> > in Sept/99 and also Viral load then was 350,000 and

> > ALT and AST were in 50 -60 range. Before going off of

> > the combo begining of Oct/99. I was pulled from combo

> > because lost insurance when I was terminated from

> > employment. For excessive absenteism.....had been

> > pulled from work by 3 of the 6 Dr's I had.

> > So does that mean my viral load is 29 million? Or

> > what? Thanks for answering me Doc.........Connie

> >

Boy Connie, are you stuck with this doctor? How could he say that your

ALT/AST is not important? I sure hope you can find a better doc before you

have to go back on treatment. I think your viral count IS 29 million by

this test. I hope I'm wrong. You might get it rechecked by the same lab that

did your tests before. My viral load sky-rocketed when I stopped treatment

(almost 10 times my end-of-treatment viral load test within 10 months),

maybe that's what is happening to you. My doctor said it shouldn't continue

to rise at that rate, and someone else wrote to me and said it would

probably start dropping back to pre-treatment levels. I hope this person

was right! I get rechecked next month. Connie, I KNOW you told me this

before but what was your last biopsy like? (sorry, brain fog).

Claudine

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>From: " Constance Dickson " <constance_clearwater_florida@...

> > I asked about the ALT and AST and he told me that was

> > not important. Needless to say I really do not have

> > much faith in this Dr. When he wrote out script for

> > bloodwork he forgot to put quanitive on it and

> > something else (don't remember at the moment)and I

> > brought it to his attention and he looked at me

> > surprised and said Thanks they would have been calling

> > me. I also asked him if the ALT and AST was not

> > important then why when I was on combo before with

> > insurance from work they did weekly bloodwork for the

> > ALT and AST. He had no answer to that. Last ALT and

> > AST that I know was done in Nov/99 for preop bloodwork

> > and was 148/126 (bilateral CPS, I am inoperable

> > because of bleeding time greater than 3 times normal.

> > Platelets were at 128 though they said was being

> > caused by something having an aspirin like effect on

> > my blood). I also have Congenital ITP. When checked

> > in Sept/99 and also Viral load then was 350,000 and

> > ALT and AST were in 50 -60 range. Before going off of

> > the combo begining of Oct/99. I was pulled from combo

> > because lost insurance when I was terminated from

> > employment. For excessive absenteism.....had been

> > pulled from work by 3 of the 6 Dr's I had.

> > So does that mean my viral load is 29 million? Or

> > what? Thanks for answering me Doc.........Connie

> >

Boy Connie, are you stuck with this doctor? How could he say that your

ALT/AST is not important? I sure hope you can find a better doc before you

have to go back on treatment. I think your viral count IS 29 million by

this test. I hope I'm wrong. You might get it rechecked by the same lab that

did your tests before. My viral load sky-rocketed when I stopped treatment

(almost 10 times my end-of-treatment viral load test within 10 months),

maybe that's what is happening to you. My doctor said it shouldn't continue

to rise at that rate, and someone else wrote to me and said it would

probably start dropping back to pre-treatment levels. I hope this person

was right! I get rechecked next month. Connie, I KNOW you told me this

before but what was your last biopsy like? (sorry, brain fog).

Claudine

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I asked about the ALT and AST and he told me that was

not important. Needless to say I really do not have

much faith in this Dr. When he wrote out script for

bloodwork he forgot to put quanitive on it and

something else (don't remember at the moment)and I

brought it to his attention and he looked at me

surprised and said Thanks they would have been calling

me. I also asked him if the ALT and AST was not

important then why when I was on combo before with

insurance from work they did weekly bloodwork for the

ALT and AST. He had no answer to that. Last ALT and

AST that I know was done in Nov/99 for preop bloodwork

and was 148/126 (bilateral CPS, I am inoperable

because of bleeding time greater than 3 times normal.

Platelets were at 128 though they said was being

caused by something having an aspirin like effect on

my blood). I also have Congenital ITP. When checked

in Sept/99 and also Viral load then was 350,000 and

ALT and AST were in 50 -60 range. Before going off of

the combo begining of Oct/99. I was pulled from combo

because lost insurance when I was terminated from

employment. For excessive absenteism.....had been

pulled from work by 3 of the 6 Dr's I had.

So does that mean my viral load is 29 million? Or

what? Thanks for answering me Doc.........Connie

--- Doc <gidoc@...> wrote:

> That looks like a high viral count, however there

> is a lot of problem

> in comparing tests with different units. How about

> ALT/AST?

>

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I asked about the ALT and AST and he told me that was

not important. Needless to say I really do not have

much faith in this Dr. When he wrote out script for

bloodwork he forgot to put quanitive on it and

something else (don't remember at the moment)and I

brought it to his attention and he looked at me

surprised and said Thanks they would have been calling

me. I also asked him if the ALT and AST was not

important then why when I was on combo before with

insurance from work they did weekly bloodwork for the

ALT and AST. He had no answer to that. Last ALT and

AST that I know was done in Nov/99 for preop bloodwork

and was 148/126 (bilateral CPS, I am inoperable

because of bleeding time greater than 3 times normal.

Platelets were at 128 though they said was being

caused by something having an aspirin like effect on

my blood). I also have Congenital ITP. When checked

in Sept/99 and also Viral load then was 350,000 and

ALT and AST were in 50 -60 range. Before going off of

the combo begining of Oct/99. I was pulled from combo

because lost insurance when I was terminated from

employment. For excessive absenteism.....had been

pulled from work by 3 of the 6 Dr's I had.

So does that mean my viral load is 29 million? Or

what? Thanks for answering me Doc.........Connie

--- Doc <gidoc@...> wrote:

> That looks like a high viral count, however there

> is a lot of problem

> in comparing tests with different units. How about

> ALT/AST?

>

>

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