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Hi Alley,

I was wondering how they knew it was stage 4

before they had actually gone in and done any more

tests. My did didn't know what stage his was until

after the surgery to remove the surrounding tissue. He

was in the hospital for about 24 hours I think. It

sounds like they are doing the same 'sentinel'

procedure with you too. I really wish that technique

would have been known when I had cancer. Removing all

those lymph nodes has led to chronic fluid retention

in my legs, which is a real pain in the - legs. :)

I'm so glad things don't sound so bad now. When

will you have this surgery?

Claudine

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Claudine said <<Removing all those lymph nodes has led to chronic fluid

retention

in my legs, which is a real pain in the - legs. :) >>

Cute!

Yeah he did mention the fluid retention if they have to remove all the nodes

there.

I got a copy of my lab tests and it's pretty descriptive. My family doc

removed the mole and some surrounding tissue last week and that's what they

tested. But oncologist of course needs to remove more tissue to make sure

and then the sentinel thing.

The doc gave me some forms for the study I may qualify for. It's doing the

PCR of the biopsied lymph node and then if it still shows melanoma, doing

interferon treatments as the second part of the study. The amount of

interferon is much more than what is normally used for Hep C, but if I do

have to do this, I don't see much to worry about, hopefully I'll tolerate it

as well as I did before.

It is a Schering study btw. And I was amazed that all costs were to be paid

by the patient. I always thot study costs were funded for the patients too.

I'll find out tomorrow when. I have a writers workshop nov 16-18 in Austin

and Sat is the last day for me to submit a manuscript for the workshop so I

gotta find out before I send off my money. I figure I either need it really

quick or after if he thinks it's ok to wait till after. Even if i have to go

in a wheelchair, I wanna go! Been waiting for this for months.

I'm much more optimistic now about my chances in beating the cancer. If

positive attitude is anything, then I'm already cured! haha I am doing the

" heal myself " , " flush out the bad " , etc etc mental excercises I did while i

was on combo. Before I would go to sleep at nite, right after my mental

prayers, I would visualize my body flushing out the hep, now the melanoma, a

sort of excorcism (heporcism) and only letting in good healthy things with

each breath. In with the good, out with the bad so to speak. I don't know if

it works, but I figure, sure can't hurt! I always liked psychocybernetcs (or

maybe it's the " psycho " part I identify with lol.)

Almost weekend!

alley

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Claudine said <<Removing all those lymph nodes has led to chronic fluid

retention

in my legs, which is a real pain in the - legs. :) >>

Cute!

Yeah he did mention the fluid retention if they have to remove all the nodes

there.

I got a copy of my lab tests and it's pretty descriptive. My family doc

removed the mole and some surrounding tissue last week and that's what they

tested. But oncologist of course needs to remove more tissue to make sure

and then the sentinel thing.

The doc gave me some forms for the study I may qualify for. It's doing the

PCR of the biopsied lymph node and then if it still shows melanoma, doing

interferon treatments as the second part of the study. The amount of

interferon is much more than what is normally used for Hep C, but if I do

have to do this, I don't see much to worry about, hopefully I'll tolerate it

as well as I did before.

It is a Schering study btw. And I was amazed that all costs were to be paid

by the patient. I always thot study costs were funded for the patients too.

I'll find out tomorrow when. I have a writers workshop nov 16-18 in Austin

and Sat is the last day for me to submit a manuscript for the workshop so I

gotta find out before I send off my money. I figure I either need it really

quick or after if he thinks it's ok to wait till after. Even if i have to go

in a wheelchair, I wanna go! Been waiting for this for months.

I'm much more optimistic now about my chances in beating the cancer. If

positive attitude is anything, then I'm already cured! haha I am doing the

" heal myself " , " flush out the bad " , etc etc mental excercises I did while i

was on combo. Before I would go to sleep at nite, right after my mental

prayers, I would visualize my body flushing out the hep, now the melanoma, a

sort of excorcism (heporcism) and only letting in good healthy things with

each breath. In with the good, out with the bad so to speak. I don't know if

it works, but I figure, sure can't hurt! I always liked psychocybernetcs (or

maybe it's the " psycho " part I identify with lol.)

Almost weekend!

alley

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--- AndromedaGurl <andromedagurl@...> wrote:

> The doc gave me some forms for the study I may

> qualify for. It's doing the

> PCR of the biopsied lymph node and then if it still

> shows melanoma, doing

> interferon treatments as the second part of the

> study. The amount of

> interferon is much more than what is normally used

> for Hep C, but if I do

> have to do this, I don't see much to worry about,

> hopefully I'll tolerate it

> as well as I did before.

Ok alley, we all know how much you loved your

interferon, but this is a bit drastic, lol! Let's just

hope that the lymph node comes back clean!

> It is a Schering study btw. And I was amazed that

> all costs were to be paid

> by the patient. I always thot study costs were

> funded for the patients too.

Nope, not when the drug is already approved for

whatever it is being used for, which in your case is

melanoma, and it's already approved for that. I almost

got into an Amgen study using daily injections of

Infergen, and they were only taking people with

insurance to pay for it. However, my insurance would

only cover 3 doses a week (what it was approved at),

so Amgen had agreed to pay for the other 4 doses per

week. There is so much lab work required during

studies, and lab work is very expensive, so you can

bet they don't want to have to pay it if they can get

out of it, which is why they really only wanted people

with insurance. It's not the drugs that are so

expensive for them!

Keep up the good attitude. I'm a firm believer in the

power of positive thinking!

Claudine

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--- AndromedaGurl <andromedagurl@...> wrote:

> The doc gave me some forms for the study I may

> qualify for. It's doing the

> PCR of the biopsied lymph node and then if it still

> shows melanoma, doing

> interferon treatments as the second part of the

> study. The amount of

> interferon is much more than what is normally used

> for Hep C, but if I do

> have to do this, I don't see much to worry about,

> hopefully I'll tolerate it

> as well as I did before.

Ok alley, we all know how much you loved your

interferon, but this is a bit drastic, lol! Let's just

hope that the lymph node comes back clean!

> It is a Schering study btw. And I was amazed that

> all costs were to be paid

> by the patient. I always thot study costs were

> funded for the patients too.

Nope, not when the drug is already approved for

whatever it is being used for, which in your case is

melanoma, and it's already approved for that. I almost

got into an Amgen study using daily injections of

Infergen, and they were only taking people with

insurance to pay for it. However, my insurance would

only cover 3 doses a week (what it was approved at),

so Amgen had agreed to pay for the other 4 doses per

week. There is so much lab work required during

studies, and lab work is very expensive, so you can

bet they don't want to have to pay it if they can get

out of it, which is why they really only wanted people

with insurance. It's not the drugs that are so

expensive for them!

Keep up the good attitude. I'm a firm believer in the

power of positive thinking!

Claudine

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Hi Alleycat....so glad to hear the news. Yes my dear, me thinks

you'll live for a long while to come. It just wouldn't be the same

without you on this forum. So you have to stick around!! So there!

LOL

Hugggs

Carol

AndromedaGurl wrote:

>

> WHEW!

>

> Saw the oncologist today. He is such a sweet guy, or seems so :)

>

> He explained that I don't have stage 4 melanoma and that's kind of an older

way of describing melanoma. He said I'm " 2.5 cm " , the length of the melanoma,

so while it's not great, it's not horrendous either.

>

> I will still have to have some day surgery on the site of the melanoma to

remove more tissue and with dye they will follow it to the groin and sample a

small lymph node to see if it's spread.

>

> He said while it isn't just an " in and out " thing, it's not like having open

heart surgery. A lot will depend on how much they will need to graft onto the

site on my leg, because it will be a larger area. I may not need a graft, and

he's concerned of the location cuz it's behind my knee at the top of my calf

almost on the crease there. Not great for healing quickly cuz too easy to pull

apart, so that may be a time issue with healing, staying off the leg, not

kneeling or bending it much.

>

> So while I'm not out of the woods yet, I like these woods much better than the

" stage 4 " woods hahahha.

>

> whew! I might live after all!

>

> alley

>

>

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Hey Alley, I like that idea of a " heporcism " . I think what you're

doing is a great idea and I'm going to try it. Also, I think you're

positive attitude is so helpful...a lot of Docs say that attitude and

being positive is 99 percent of the cure. You go, girl!!!

Huggggs

Carol

" heal myself, flush out the bad "

AndromedaGurl wrote:

>

> Claudine said <<Removing all those lymph nodes has led to chronic fluid

> retention

> in my legs, which is a real pain in the - legs. :) >>

>

> Cute!

>

> Yeah he did mention the fluid retention if they have to remove all the nodes

> there.

>

> I got a copy of my lab tests and it's pretty descriptive. My family doc

> removed the mole and some surrounding tissue last week and that's what they

> tested. But oncologist of course needs to remove more tissue to make sure

> and then the sentinel thing.

>

> The doc gave me some forms for the study I may qualify for. It's doing the

> PCR of the biopsied lymph node and then if it still shows melanoma, doing

> interferon treatments as the second part of the study. The amount of

> interferon is much more than what is normally used for Hep C, but if I do

> have to do this, I don't see much to worry about, hopefully I'll tolerate it

> as well as I did before.

>

> It is a Schering study btw. And I was amazed that all costs were to be paid

> by the patient. I always thot study costs were funded for the patients too.

>

> I'll find out tomorrow when. I have a writers workshop nov 16-18 in Austin

> and Sat is the last day for me to submit a manuscript for the workshop so I

> gotta find out before I send off my money. I figure I either need it really

> quick or after if he thinks it's ok to wait till after. Even if i have to go

> in a wheelchair, I wanna go! Been waiting for this for months.

>

> I'm much more optimistic now about my chances in beating the cancer. If

> positive attitude is anything, then I'm already cured! haha I am doing the

> " heal myself " , " flush out the bad " , etc etc mental excercises I did while i

> was on combo. Before I would go to sleep at nite, right after my mental

> prayers, I would visualize my body flushing out the hep, now the melanoma, a

> sort of excorcism (heporcism) and only letting in good healthy things with

> each breath. In with the good, out with the bad so to speak. I don't know if

> it works, but I figure, sure can't hurt! I always liked psychocybernetcs (or

> maybe it's the " psycho " part I identify with lol.)

>

> Almost weekend!

>

> alley

>

>

>

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  • 1 year later...

I'm still new to the group, but these postings caught my attention.

Kinda makes us wonder why we look forward to the holidays so much!

(Oh yeah, our kids...)

Although my family is rude in many areas, I have not had to deal with

rudeness directed toward Emma, my (nearly) 2 yr old with DS. In

fact, on a positive note, my grandmother sat with Emma on the couch

for an hour on Christmas Eve just talking (well, sort of) and

singing. I walked by and my grandmother said with a smile " You know,

Jill, this is your best child. " I smiled back and said " I DO know! "

We weren't cutting my other four kids down, just acknowledging Emma's

current sweetness. (It helps to be the baby of the family!)

The arena where I have found the absolute worst ignorance and fear

about DS is with doctors. Have any of you had this problem? I have

really had to do some searching to find doctors with both knowledge

of DS and compassion toward Emma. We have had absolute horror

stories. This is not at all a condemnation toward doctors in

general; we have found some who are incredible. I just wondered if

this is a common problem?

Sincerely,

Jill (Mom to Luke, , Song, , & Emma--DS, craniosynostosis)

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The arena where I have found the absolute worst ignorance and fear

about DS is with doctors. Have any of you had this problem?

I have found this in some doctors, teachers, daycare staff, the public and

family. I feel pretty fortunate that does have good doctors, teachers

and daycare staff at this time. I also work with social workers who are very

supportive to me when we go through stressful times.

One of my coworkers keeps a basket of beanie babies and small stuffed animals

(to give to foster children) under her desk. always makes a beeline for

her cubie, where he knows he can have " two " . Once she was not there and he

wanted " ten " ...lol!

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I agree wholeheartedly with this one!! My uncle is a physician and he asks the

most stupid questions. I am usually very condescending when answering (without

his knowing it LOL). He asked me one time " What does one get a child with DS

for Christmas? "

Elaine

Re: Re: Whew!!

The arena where I have found the absolute worst ignorance and fear

about DS is with doctors. Have any of you had this problem?

I have found this in some doctors, teachers, daycare staff, the public and

family. I feel pretty fortunate that does have good doctors, teachers

and daycare staff at this time. I also work with social workers who are very

supportive to me when we go through stressful times.

One of my coworkers keeps a basket of beanie babies and small stuffed

animals (to give to foster children) under her desk. always makes a

beeline for her cubie, where he knows he can have " two " . Once she was not there

and he wanted " ten " ...lol!

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Glad you're still with us Norm. I sure it was alot of fun going thru all of that. :). At least you got everything done at once. So hopefully you're good for atleast 5-6 years without a hitch then only the icd replacement. Happy that you're ok bud. TURK

Whew!!

Hi Everybody,

Tuesday, I was having intermittent chest pain that was relieved by nitroglycerine tabs; sometimes two were required. As the day advanced I decided I’d better get to the Emergency room (80 mile trip). EKG, blood check for enzymes, etc. I stayed overnight in the CCU. The following day the Doc decided that I had unstable angina, and I was whisked by ambulance to the Heart Hospital in Albuquerque. The following day, my AICD was replaced with a St. Jude’s model. The next day, after an angiogram, a medicated stent was placed in a partially blocked artery that feeds the back of the heart, and balloon angioplasty was also performed in an adjacent artery that had collapsed. So, here I am, back home and fit as a fiddle <grin> (I wish). But, thanks to modern medicine, I AM still here.

Also, the cardiologist put me back on verapamil. A local doc had cut that med six months ago. The cardiologist said verapamil was necessary to reduce the PVC’s. I was getting lots of PVC’s after stopping the medication.

I read about Bill’s impending surgery. God luck Bill. I’ll be cheering for a perfect outcome for you.

NormPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

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Thanks for the

thumbs up, Turk.

Norm

Whew!!

Hi Everybody,

Tuesday, I was having

intermittent chest pain that was relieved by nitroglycerine tabs; sometimes two

were required. As the day advanced

I decided I’d better get to the Emergency room (80 mile trip). EKG, blood check for enzymes, etc. I stayed overnight in the CCU. The following day the Doc decided that

I had unstable angina, and I was whisked by ambulance to the Heart Hospital in

Albuquerque. The following day, my

AICD was replaced with a St. Jude’s model. The next day, after an angiogram, a medicated stent was

placed in a partially blocked artery that feeds the back of the heart, and

balloon angioplasty was also performed in an adjacent artery that had collapsed. So, here I am, back home and fit as a fiddle

<grin> (I wish). But, thanks

to modern medicine, I AM still here.

Also, the cardiologist put me

back on verapamil. A local doc had

cut that med six months ago. The

cardiologist said verapamil was necessary to reduce the PVC’s. I was getting lots of PVC’s after

stopping the medication.

I read about Bill’s impending

surgery. God luck Bill. I’ll be cheering for a perfect outcome

for you.

Norm

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>

> Also, the cardiologist put me back on verapamil. A local doc had

cut that

> med six months ago. The cardiologist said verapamil was necessary

to reduce

> the PVC's. I was getting lots of PVC's after stopping the

medication.

>

I'm glad to hear it works for someone! That stuff made me

miserable. It made me swell up and made my heart race instead of

slowing it down. Just goes to show how different we all are.

Bridget

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I’m sorry

to hear that, Bridget. Are you

using anything that helps the PVC problem? Verapamil is also supposed to reduce the incidence of V-tach.

I took one

dose of Vasotec, and my glottis

swelled up. It took two weeks

before it went back to normal.

Yet, it works for many. I

agree with you that medications don’t work the same (or at all) on different

people. I’ve always wondered why

that is.

Norm

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>

> Also, the

cardiologist put me back on verapamil. A local doc had

cut that

> med six

months ago. The cardiologist said verapamil was necessary

to reduce

> the

PVC's. I was getting lots of PVC's after stopping the

medication.

>

I'm glad to hear

it works for someone! That stuff made me

miserable.

It made me swell up and made my heart race instead of

slowing it

down. Just goes to show how different we all are.

Bridget

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I don't get a lot of PVCs. I just get tachycardic at the drop of a

hat. (or in the shower)

In my case, we have to control my BP and my clotting. I'm getting a

device check tomorrow and I want to talk to them about the whole tach

thing.

Bridget

>

> >

> > Also, the cardiologist put me back on verapamil. A local doc had

> cut that

> > med six months ago. The cardiologist said verapamil was necessary

> to reduce

> > the PVC's. I was getting lots of PVC's after stopping the

> medication.

> >

>

> I'm glad to hear it works for someone! That stuff made me

> miserable. It made me swell up and made my heart race instead of

> slowing it down. Just goes to show how different we all are.

>

> Bridget

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