Re: Doc and All Anger and nonn-responders,HELP

[Guest guest]

Hi Ron,

I think (offically) the jury is still out on

whether HCV is responsible for the irritability and

depression, and 'brain fog' so many of us suffer from.

Personally, I do think it is the HCV, and NOT just

knowing I have a chronic disease, which can be

depressing in and of itself. I am also a

non-responder, by the way. I KNOW way back in my

teens and twenties, even with 4 kids and 2 jobs, I

never lost my cool like I can do now. It seems like

such little things bother me. I look back, and would

say it probably started sometime around 1986 or 1987,

but then that was also a stressful period for me. I am

fairly certain however, that I 'caught' this sometime

between 1982 and 1989, so I guess it 'fits'. With you

being epileptic I don't really know anything to

recommend to you. Are you unable to take SSRI

antidepressants? If so, I would try those first,

since the only herb I know of that works for

depression is St. 's Wort, but it appears that it

may interfere with the absorbtion of some medications.

I don't know how it would react with Dilantin. If you

haven't already talked to your doctor about these

psycological problems, I would do so. You could even

take in some info on the suspected psycological

effects of HCV. Let me know if I can help. (I was

recently given Valium for muscle spasms. As a lovely

additional benefit I am much calmer too! That is

mainly why I can see that I HAVE been overly irritable

prior to this.)

Claudine

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ron,

I think (offically) the jury is still out on

whether HCV is responsible for the irritability and

depression, and 'brain fog' so many of us suffer from.

Personally, I do think it is the HCV, and NOT just

knowing I have a chronic disease, which can be

depressing in and of itself. I am also a

non-responder, by the way. I KNOW way back in my

teens and twenties, even with 4 kids and 2 jobs, I

never lost my cool like I can do now. It seems like

such little things bother me. I look back, and would

say it probably started sometime around 1986 or 1987,

but then that was also a stressful period for me. I am

fairly certain however, that I 'caught' this sometime

between 1982 and 1989, so I guess it 'fits'. With you

being epileptic I don't really know anything to

recommend to you. Are you unable to take SSRI

antidepressants? If so, I would try those first,

since the only herb I know of that works for

depression is St. 's Wort, but it appears that it

may interfere with the absorbtion of some medications.

I don't know how it would react with Dilantin. If you

haven't already talked to your doctor about these

psycological problems, I would do so. You could even

take in some info on the suspected psycological

effects of HCV. Let me know if I can help. (I was

recently given Valium for muscle spasms. As a lovely

additional benefit I am much calmer too! That is

mainly why I can see that I HAVE been overly irritable

prior to this.)

Claudine

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I know there is no fact to base this on, but I believe the anger and

emotional volitility is part of the hep c. Sure we are all angry to have

this dragon, but I think it goes deeper than that.

Even though they've done so much research on hep c, they have yet to

really learn all the aspects of this virus. If it affects one part of

the body (and it does attach to the liver), it is only natural that the

rest of the body would be out of balance resulting in other problems.

And there have been studies conducted on the mental/emotional problems

associated with hep c. There was a research study posted to the list and

I'll see if it was one that I saved and resend it. Yep...I still have it

and will resend it to the group.

I'm still curious as to heat and cold intolerance. The only connection I

can see is the virus....some people are heat intolerant, some cold

intolerant, some have lots of liver damage, some minimal, some are on tx

and some are not....but the majority of people on the lists I belong to

experience a temperature. Any one have any thoughts on this?

Tatezi

Just my 2 cents worth....

Tatezi

claudine intexas wrote:

> Hi Ron,

> I think (offically) the jury is still out on

> whether HCV is responsible for the irritability and

> depression, and 'brain fog' so many of us suffer from.

> Personally, I do think it is the HCV, and NOT just

> knowing I have a chronic disease, which can be

> depressing in and of itself. I am also a

> non-responder, by the way. I KNOW way back in my

> teens and twenties, even with 4 kids and 2 jobs, I

> never lost my cool like I can do now. It seems like

> such little things bother me. I look back, and would

> say it probably started sometime around 1986 or 1987,

> but then that was also a stressful period for me. I am

> fairly certain however, that I 'caught' this sometime

> between 1982 and 1989, so I guess it 'fits'. With you

> being epileptic I don't really know anything to

> recommend to you. Are you unable to take SSRI

> antidepressants? If so, I would try those first,

> since the only herb I know of that works for

> depression is St. 's Wort, but it appears that it

> may interfere with the absorbtion of some medications.

> I don't know how it would react with Dilantin. If you

> haven't already talked to your doctor about these

> psycological problems, I would do so. You could even

> take in some info on the suspected psycological

> effects of HCV. Let me know if I can help. (I was

> recently given Valium for muscle spasms. As a lovely

> additional benefit I am much calmer too! That is

> mainly why I can see that I HAVE been overly irritable

> prior to this.)

> Claudine

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I know there is no fact to base this on, but I believe the anger and

emotional volitility is part of the hep c. Sure we are all angry to have

this dragon, but I think it goes deeper than that.

Even though they've done so much research on hep c, they have yet to

really learn all the aspects of this virus. If it affects one part of

the body (and it does attach to the liver), it is only natural that the

rest of the body would be out of balance resulting in other problems.

And there have been studies conducted on the mental/emotional problems

associated with hep c. There was a research study posted to the list and

I'll see if it was one that I saved and resend it. Yep...I still have it

and will resend it to the group.

I'm still curious as to heat and cold intolerance. The only connection I

can see is the virus....some people are heat intolerant, some cold

intolerant, some have lots of liver damage, some minimal, some are on tx

and some are not....but the majority of people on the lists I belong to

experience a temperature. Any one have any thoughts on this?

Tatezi

Just my 2 cents worth....

Tatezi

claudine intexas wrote:

> Hi Ron,

> I think (offically) the jury is still out on

> whether HCV is responsible for the irritability and

> depression, and 'brain fog' so many of us suffer from.

> Personally, I do think it is the HCV, and NOT just

> knowing I have a chronic disease, which can be

> depressing in and of itself. I am also a

> non-responder, by the way. I KNOW way back in my

> teens and twenties, even with 4 kids and 2 jobs, I

> never lost my cool like I can do now. It seems like

> such little things bother me. I look back, and would

> say it probably started sometime around 1986 or 1987,

> but then that was also a stressful period for me. I am

> fairly certain however, that I 'caught' this sometime

> between 1982 and 1989, so I guess it 'fits'. With you

> being epileptic I don't really know anything to

> recommend to you. Are you unable to take SSRI

> antidepressants? If so, I would try those first,

> since the only herb I know of that works for

> depression is St. 's Wort, but it appears that it

> may interfere with the absorbtion of some medications.

> I don't know how it would react with Dilantin. If you

> haven't already talked to your doctor about these

> psycological problems, I would do so. You could even

> take in some info on the suspected psycological

> effects of HCV. Let me know if I can help. (I was

> recently given Valium for muscle spasms. As a lovely

> additional benefit I am much calmer too! That is

> mainly why I can see that I HAVE been overly irritable

> prior to this.)

> Claudine

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Tat said <<I'm still curious as to heat and cold intolerance>>

Yep. I don't mind being intolerant to the cold. It doesn't get that cold

that often in Dallas haha. But heat sensitivity is makin me nuts! Just

walking from a parking lot to a building or cinema makes me sick. I hate it.

I should be enjoying the sun and the summer, instead I dread stepping

outside. Part of me revels in the heat on my skin, another part of me wants

to puke. Such dichotomies!

hugs

alley

[Guest guest]

Tat said <<I'm still curious as to heat and cold intolerance>>

Yep. I don't mind being intolerant to the cold. It doesn't get that cold

that often in Dallas haha. But heat sensitivity is makin me nuts! Just

walking from a parking lot to a building or cinema makes me sick. I hate it.

I should be enjoying the sun and the summer, instead I dread stepping

outside. Part of me revels in the heat on my skin, another part of me wants

to puke. Such dichotomies!

hugs

alley

[Guest guest]

Dear Ron,

I'm a non-responder, too. I attribute the irritation, brain fog, and a lot

of other things to the Hep C. But as Claudine said, the jury is still out.

In addition to everything else the Combo made me be instantly

post-menopausal, so I do contribute some of the irritability to that since

none of us can take ERT.

The best advice that I can give you is to keep busy to fight the depression,

but not so busy that you get stressed out over it.

We are in the throws of a move and I'm about to lose my mind. So far, I

haven't killed anybody, yet. And I am trying very hard not to take it out on

my husband, since none of this is his fault.

I don't know what kind of muscles spasms, etc. you're having, but I have

found my chiropractor to be a Godsend. You might want to try that.

Good luck and keep us posted,

Anne

[Guest guest]

Dear Ron,

I'm a non-responder, too. I attribute the irritation, brain fog, and a lot

of other things to the Hep C. But as Claudine said, the jury is still out.

In addition to everything else the Combo made me be instantly

post-menopausal, so I do contribute some of the irritability to that since

none of us can take ERT.

The best advice that I can give you is to keep busy to fight the depression,

but not so busy that you get stressed out over it.

We are in the throws of a move and I'm about to lose my mind. So far, I

haven't killed anybody, yet. And I am trying very hard not to take it out on

my husband, since none of this is his fault.

I don't know what kind of muscles spasms, etc. you're having, but I have

found my chiropractor to be a Godsend. You might want to try that.

Good luck and keep us posted,

Anne

[Guest guest]

Dear Ron,

I'm a non-responder, too. I attribute the irritation, brain fog, and a lot

of other things to the Hep C. But as Claudine said, the jury is still out.

In addition to everything else the Combo made me be instantly

post-menopausal, so I do contribute some of the irritability to that since

none of us can take ERT.

The best advice that I can give you is to keep busy to fight the depression,

but not so busy that you get stressed out over it.

We are in the throws of a move and I'm about to lose my mind. So far, I

haven't killed anybody, yet. And I am trying very hard not to take it out on

my husband, since none of this is his fault.

I don't know what kind of muscles spasms, etc. you're having, but I have

found my chiropractor to be a Godsend. You might want to try that.

Good luck and keep us posted,

Anne

[Guest guest]

Dear Ron,

I'm a non-responder, too. I attribute the irritation, brain fog, and a lot

of other things to the Hep C. But as Claudine said, the jury is still out.

In addition to everything else the Combo made me be instantly

post-menopausal, so I do contribute some of the irritability to that since

none of us can take ERT.

The best advice that I can give you is to keep busy to fight the depression,

but not so busy that you get stressed out over it.

We are in the throws of a move and I'm about to lose my mind. So far, I

haven't killed anybody, yet. And I am trying very hard not to take it out on

my husband, since none of this is his fault.

I don't know what kind of muscles spasms, etc. you're having, but I have

found my chiropractor to be a Godsend. You might want to try that.

Good luck and keep us posted,

Anne

[Guest guest]

I HATE COLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But HepC has made me hypothryoid. That's one of

the reasons I have so much trouble gaining and keeping weight. My friend

Nanacy is just the opposite. So there you go. Since Hep C is a blood borne

pathogen, it migrates to your bodies weekest link, which is not necessarily

your liver. Mine is my cirulatory system. Go figure. LOL, Anne

[Guest guest]

I HATE COLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But HepC has made me hypothryoid. That's one of

the reasons I have so much trouble gaining and keeping weight. My friend

Nanacy is just the opposite. So there you go. Since Hep C is a blood borne

pathogen, it migrates to your bodies weekest link, which is not necessarily

your liver. Mine is my cirulatory system. Go figure. LOL, Anne

[Guest guest]

--- AVansi7465@... wrote:

> I don't know what kind of muscles spasms, etc.

> you're having, but I have

> found my chiropractor to be a Godsend. You might

> want to try that.

Me too! A chiropractor and Valium. A doctor had

suggested Valium to me over a year ago for the muscle

spasms and I resisted. Sure with I would have

listened. Together, it's made a huge difference.

C

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[Guest guest]

--- AVansi7465@... wrote:

> I don't know what kind of muscles spasms, etc.

> you're having, but I have

> found my chiropractor to be a Godsend. You might

> want to try that.

Me too! A chiropractor and Valium. A doctor had

suggested Valium to me over a year ago for the muscle

spasms and I resisted. Sure with I would have

listened. Together, it's made a huge difference.

C

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[Guest guest]

--- AVansi7465@... wrote:

> I don't know what kind of muscles spasms, etc.

> you're having, but I have

> found my chiropractor to be a Godsend. You might

> want to try that.

Me too! A chiropractor and Valium. A doctor had

suggested Valium to me over a year ago for the muscle

spasms and I resisted. Sure with I would have

listened. Together, it's made a huge difference.

C

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

--- AVansi7465@... wrote:

> I don't know what kind of muscles spasms, etc.

> you're having, but I have

> found my chiropractor to be a Godsend. You might

> want to try that.

Me too! A chiropractor and Valium. A doctor had

suggested Valium to me over a year ago for the muscle

spasms and I resisted. Sure with I would have

listened. Together, it's made a huge difference.

C

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne

Yup, I've noticed I'm starting to get ulcer attacks again since I've been

diagnosed. My weakest link is my digestive system. And I don't mnd cold...I

hate HOT. Like you say, go figure. Thanks for reminding me to get my thyroid

tested again!! Of course, the Doc didn't say anything about it....but I know

family physicians really don't know a whole lot about HepC. And I'm not bad

enuff yet to have to see a specialist....so wow, I am learning a lot here.

Hugggs

Carol

AVansi7465@... wrote:

> I HATE COLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But HepC has made me hypothryoid. That's one of

> the reasons I have so much trouble gaining and keeping weight. My friend

> Nanacy is just the opposite. So there you go. Since Hep C is a blood borne

> pathogen, it migrates to your bodies weekest link, which is not necessarily

> your liver. Mine is my cirulatory system. Go figure. LOL, Anne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne

Yup, I've noticed I'm starting to get ulcer attacks again since I've been

diagnosed. My weakest link is my digestive system. And I don't mnd cold...I

hate HOT. Like you say, go figure. Thanks for reminding me to get my thyroid

tested again!! Of course, the Doc didn't say anything about it....but I know

family physicians really don't know a whole lot about HepC. And I'm not bad

enuff yet to have to see a specialist....so wow, I am learning a lot here.

Hugggs

Carol

AVansi7465@... wrote:

> I HATE COLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But HepC has made me hypothryoid. That's one of

> the reasons I have so much trouble gaining and keeping weight. My friend

> Nanacy is just the opposite. So there you go. Since Hep C is a blood borne

> pathogen, it migrates to your bodies weekest link, which is not necessarily

> your liver. Mine is my cirulatory system. Go figure. LOL, Anne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol and welcome to our list. I want to thank all of you myself for a few

days ago, when I was feeling sorry for myself . That is unneeded emotion to

add to everything. You will find here a lot of really caring people and I might

say intelligent and knowing their stuff. And, Doc is really a great person.

When you feel like all your before friends have abandoned you, you will find

them here and will know what your going through. Good Luck and take care,

Connie

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[Guest guest]

Hi Carol and welcome to our list. I want to thank all of you myself for a few

days ago, when I was feeling sorry for myself . That is unneeded emotion to

add to everything. You will find here a lot of really caring people and I might

say intelligent and knowing their stuff. And, Doc is really a great person.

When you feel like all your before friends have abandoned you, you will find

them here and will know what your going through. Good Luck and take care,

Connie

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[Guest guest]

Hi Carol and welcome to our list. I want to thank all of you myself for a few

days ago, when I was feeling sorry for myself . That is unneeded emotion to

add to everything. You will find here a lot of really caring people and I might

say intelligent and knowing their stuff. And, Doc is really a great person.

When you feel like all your before friends have abandoned you, you will find

them here and will know what your going through. Good Luck and take care,

Connie

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[Guest guest]

Hi Carol and welcome to our list. I want to thank all of you myself for a few

days ago, when I was feeling sorry for myself . That is unneeded emotion to

add to everything. You will find here a lot of really caring people and I might

say intelligent and knowing their stuff. And, Doc is really a great person.

When you feel like all your before friends have abandoned you, you will find

them here and will know what your going through. Good Luck and take care,

Connie

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[Guest guest]

(((((((((((((( Connie ))))))))))))))

big hugs to you )

alley

[Guest guest]

(((((((((((((( Connie ))))))))))))))

big hugs to you )

alley

[Guest guest]

(((((((((((((( Connie ))))))))))))))

big hugs to you )

alley