Re: Anybody In The Group Have Diabetes Also?

August 11, 2007

I honestly cannot see how the two diseases are related. Hepatitis is a

liver disease and diabetes is either/both insulin resistance or reduced/no

insulin production from the pancreas.

You might be intersted in joining a group that I am currently involved in,

ABC-Diabetes-International

You'll find a lot of friendly members willing to exchange information as

well as a ton of links explaining a *lot* about diabetes, causes,

treatments, and more.

Best regards from Rochester, NY

Jim

Anybody In The Group Have Diabetes

Also?

I have Hepatitis C & I am also Diabetic. I believe somehow these are

related--does anyone in the group have both?

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2:29 PM

August 12, 2007

There are a couple of folks I know who have said they developed

diabetes after treatment for their hepatitis, but it could be that it was an

underlying problem that was yet undetected.

Have you had any treatments yet?

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August 12, 2007

>

> I honestly cannot see how the two diseases are related. Hepatitis

is a

> liver disease and diabetes is either/both insulin resistance or

reduced/no

> insulin production from the pancreas.

>

> You might be intersted in joining a group that I am currently

involved in,

> ABC-Diabetes-International

>

> You'll find a lot of friendly members willing to exchange

information as

> well as a ton of links explaining a *lot* about diabetes, causes,

> treatments, and more.

>

> Best regards from Rochester, NY

> Jim

>

> Jim, to be a little more specific, hepatitis is a bloodborn viral

infection that can cause liver disease. Diabetes is not an

infection. And if it runs in a family, I'd suspect a hep c

connection even less. Thanks for the link, a friend of mine needs

it. E

>

> Anybody In The Group Have

Diabetes

> Also?

>

> I have Hepatitis C & I am also Diabetic. I believe somehow these

are

> related--does anyone in the group have both?

>

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> 2:29 PM

>

August 12, 2007

Well, I've had an ultrasound and endoscopies (which revealed a few small

varicose veins in my esophagus, so I do have a bit of cirrhosis.

Unfortunately, despite having income and resources below what the VA wants,

I still have to pay co-payments to the VA as my income last year was above

that cutoff. On top of that, IRS claims I made $2800 more than I actually

did, so I'm paying off $500 to IRS (including fica, Medicare, and income

tax). The VA wants $250 or they will not pay for treatment and I can't

afford the drugs if I use my retiree health care as the 30% co-payment would

be prohibitive on the interferon. So I'm simply another old person falling

through the cracks ....

Best regards from Rochester, NY

Jim

Re: Anybody In The Group Have Diabetes

Also?

There are a couple of folks I know who have said they developed

diabetes after treatment for their hepatitis, but it could be that it was an

underlying problem that was yet undetected.

Have you had any treatments yet?

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11:03 AM

August 12, 2007

Sorry it's common to have both. Liver affects all organs and also tx. Lots of

hep c people have diabetes some were tx induced others actually caused by hepc

and the liver.

risktkr4567 <no_reply > wrote:

>

> I honestly cannot see how the two diseases are related. Hepatitis

is a

> liver disease and diabetes is either/both insulin resistance or

reduced/no

> insulin production from the pancreas.

>

> You might be intersted in joining a group that I am currently

involved in,

> ABC-Diabetes-International

>

> You'll find a lot of friendly members willing to exchange

information as

> well as a ton of links explaining a *lot* about diabetes, causes,

> treatments, and more.

>

> Best regards from Rochester, NY

> Jim

>

> Jim, to be a little more specific, hepatitis is a bloodborn viral

infection that can cause liver disease. Diabetes is not an

infection. And if it runs in a family, I'd suspect a hep c

connection even less. Thanks for the link, a friend of mine needs

it. E

>

> Anybody In The Group Have

Diabetes

> Also?

>

> I have Hepatitis C & I am also Diabetic. I believe somehow these

are

> related--does anyone in the group have both?

>

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> 2:29 PM

>

August 12, 2007

I hadn't thought of that. Although a number of folks in the diabetes group

have other problems (circulation), I'm not aware of any with hep, although

there may be some. I got heptitis from (I assume as I don't have any risk

factors including operations) Vietnam - which would be almost 40 years ago.

I have no other health problems at this time <keep fingers crossed>

Best regards from Rochester, NY

Jim

Re: Re: Anybody In The Group Have

Diabetes Also?

Sorry it's common to have both. Liver affects all organs and also tx. Lots

of hep c people have diabetes some were tx induced others actually caused by

hepc and the liver.

risktkr4567 <no_reply > wrote:

>

> I honestly cannot see how the two diseases are related. Hepatitis

is a

> liver disease and diabetes is either/both insulin resistance or

reduced/no

> insulin production from the pancreas.

>

> You might be intersted in joining a group that I am currently

involved in,

> ABC-Diabetes-International

>

> You'll find a lot of friendly members willing to exchange

information as

> well as a ton of links explaining a *lot* about diabetes, causes,

> treatments, and more.

>

> Best regards from Rochester, NY

> Jim

>

> Jim, to be a little more specific, hepatitis is a bloodborn viral

infection that can cause liver disease. Diabetes is not an

infection. And if it runs in a family, I'd suspect a hep c

connection even less. Thanks for the link, a friend of mine needs

it. E

>

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11:03 AM

August 12, 2007

Lots of Vietnam service men have hepc. VA has huge site about it lots of info.

Pat..Fontana, Calif.

Jim Hampton <aa2qa@...> wrote: I hadn't thought of that.

Although a number of folks in the diabetes group

have other problems (circulation), I'm not aware of any with hep, although

there may be some. I got heptitis from (I assume as I don't have any risk

factors including operations) Vietnam - which would be almost 40 years ago.

I have no other health problems at this time <keep fingers crossed>

Best regards from Rochester, NY

Jim

Re: Re: Anybody In The Group Have

Diabetes Also?

Sorry it's common to have both. Liver affects all organs and also tx. Lots

of hep c people have diabetes some were tx induced others actually caused by

hepc and the liver.

risktkr4567 <no_reply > wrote:

>

> I honestly cannot see how the two diseases are related. Hepatitis

is a

> liver disease and diabetes is either/both insulin resistance or

reduced/no

> insulin production from the pancreas.

>

> You might be intersted in joining a group that I am currently

involved in,

> ABC-Diabetes-International

>

> You'll find a lot of friendly members willing to exchange

information as

> well as a ton of links explaining a *lot* about diabetes, causes,

> treatments, and more.

>

> Best regards from Rochester, NY

> Jim

>

> Jim, to be a little more specific, hepatitis is a bloodborn viral

infection that can cause liver disease. Diabetes is not an

infection. And if it runs in a family, I'd suspect a hep c

connection even less. Thanks for the link, a friend of mine needs

it. E

>

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11:03 AM

August 12, 2007

I'm not too sure. They keep changing the rules. Yes, I was in country, but

not for long (most was aboard a command ship off Vietnam). ly, the

government has cut funding so much for the VA that things are quite nasty.

I keep getting different answers. A friend of mine was getting a

degenerative bone disease back in 1991, but he couldn't prove where he was

in Vietnam (he was exposed to agent orange) and the records of troop

movements were a microfiche copy of IBM punch cards! So, they refused

treatment. Perhaps things will change, but we haven't given enough tax cuts

to the rich yet.

I'm fighting to keep my private insurance, but couldn't afford the

co-payments on the interferon for the hep-c. Meanwhile, the VA is

threatening to cut me off unless I pay them $250.00 (which, at part time

only minimum wage employment, I can't cough up).

I guess I just don't have enough education, although I must admit I'm tired

of helping others who are trying to understand calculus. I'm also tired of

helping others (all for free, of course) who have computer problems. They

really should insist that their pay-for-service technician is astute enough

to re-install the anti-virus and firewall!!!

Find someone else to fight the next war.

Best regards from Rochester, NY

Jim

RE: Re: Anybody In The Group Have

Diabetes Also?

Lots of Vietnam service men have hepc. VA has huge site about it lots of

info. Pat..Fontana, Calif.

Jim Hampton <aa2qa@...> wrote: I hadn't thought of that.

Although a number of folks in the diabetes group

have other problems (circulation), I'm not aware of any with hep, although

there may be some. I got heptitis from (I assume as I don't have any risk

factors including operations) Vietnam - which would be almost 40 years ago.

I have no other health problems at this time <keep fingers crossed>

Best regards from Rochester, NY

Jim

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August 12, 2007

Jim, do you recall what vaccinations you were required to have when you were

in service?

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August 12, 2007

Actually I don't.

I do recall I lost my shot card on my way to Vietnam and had to get over a

dozen shots when I got there LOL.

Best regards from Rochester, NY

Jim

Re: Re: Anybody In The Group Have

Diabetes Also?

Jim, do you recall what vaccinations you were required to have when you were

in service?

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>

> Jim, do you recall what vaccinations you were required to have when

you were

> in service?

Hi all, long time no post, but I'm still here, lurking around the

corner! Got my monthly blood test results, all over the board as

usual, and go see my Doc tomorrow for his thoughts, if any lol.

When I went to 'Nam in '66, I surely remember at least 8 or 9 shots

in a row, and they used that f*ng air gun, which is NEVER cleaned.

That'd one reason 'Nam Vets are far more likely to develop the

disease, as well as those exposed to orange (who the hell knows if

they were exposed to agent orange?). I sure don't as I travelled all

over the northern areas in " I " Core, from DaNang, my base, inland and

northward. Few may know for sure, and it really doesn't matter, cause

we all have to deal with it over and over again, with HCV being a

constant reminder. I'm curious how many Vietnamese have this dreaded

disease? Probably surviving on ancient herb supplements alone and

doing quite well!

August 14, 2007

Yep, I suspect that air gun. One guy, 2 ahead of me, jumped and the air gun

ripped his arm pretty good. Quite a bit of blood and, as you stated, no

cleaning.

Of course the VA has " informational " booklets stating that air guns aren't

the problem, but go figure why Vietnam vets have 10 *times* the infection

rate of the normal population. I'll guarantee not that many were handling

dead bodies (about the only way they'll grant free treatment).

When I lost my shot card, they used needles. Nice and sterile. I got at

least a dozen (for some reason I keep thinking it was 14, but that was 39

years ago). Dang, I'm getting old. Which is a lot better than a number of

folks who served over there.