Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

[Guest guest]

HI. Lucky you fly 31st.Right now it.s very cold in holland.Can.t wear my

wooden shoes because they freeze to the pavement.When you arrive by plane the

airport people give passengers furcoats and a shot of brandy.(pitty you.ll

arrive brussels).There.s a curfew you.re only allowed outdoors for a maximum of

30min.Hospitals are filled to capacity with people with frozen limps or

completely frozen.Change your ticket to HAWAI.Lol.Serious,it.s a bit cold but

the frost will go coming sunday.I got the flu and a terrible pain in my back,can

hardly walk,don.t know if this is interferon related.I take oldfashion

medicine.s and when a bit better I.ll go to the sauna and sweat it out.You like

to go to Holland,I.am dreaming of a tropical island with no rain or snow or ice

where a local beauty massages my painstricken back.Willem.

OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Hey folks! Got my tickets to fly to Holland in Feb! I'll be flying out Jan 31

to Brussels (cheaper than landing at Amsterdam) and returning Feb 17.

I'll be turning all my egroups off to no mail at that time.

You guys don't know how much this trip will mean to me! It's like a reward for

the years of interferon and crap that goes with it. I feel pretty good now, but

fighting the chronic hives thing still. Had a bad flare up recently and now I'm

back on prednisone. Shrink put me on Ativan and Loxapro, in addition to my

Wellbutrin. So for 2 days now, I've been sleeping or groggy. And that with .25

Ativan! Hopefully my body will adjust, if it doesn't in a few days I will call

her and tell her I can't handle this. I did some kind of cholesterol medicine

for a while hoping to pull bile from my gut, if that is what was causing this,

but it didn't stop the itching and just made me constipated. (too much inf?

haha) This itching is really making me nuts. Should it get worse, I'm not sure

what else they can do. Allergist had to convince me that it wasn't going to

last the rest of my life, at least not the worst part.

So Willem, here I come!

I will also look for any local hep support groups Eindhoven or Amsterdam might

have. I'd love to be a " worldly " hepper )

Be well yall,

Alley

[Guest guest]

Alley...

Have a great trip and enjoy yourself to the fullest. We'll miss you but look

forward to the tales of your trip when you get home.

Blessings

Tatezi

OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Hey folks! Got my tickets to fly to Holland in Feb! I'll be flying out Jan 31

to Brussels (cheaper than landing at Amsterdam) and returning Feb 17.

I'll be turning all my egroups off to no mail at that time.

You guys don't know how much this trip will mean to me! It's like a reward for

the years of interferon and crap that goes with it. I feel pretty good now, but

fighting the chronic hives thing still. Had a bad flare up recently and now I'm

back on prednisone. Shrink put me on Ativan and Loxapro, in addition to my

Wellbutrin. So for 2 days now, I've been sleeping or groggy. And that with .25

Ativan! Hopefully my body will adjust, if it doesn't in a few days I will call

her and tell her I can't handle this. I did some kind of cholesterol medicine

for a while hoping to pull bile from my gut, if that is what was causing this,

but it didn't stop the itching and just made me constipated. (too much inf?

haha) This itching is really making me nuts. Should it get worse, I'm not sure

what else they can do. Allergist had to convince me that it wasn't going to

last the rest of my life, at least not the worst part.

So Willem, here I come!

I will also look for any local hep support groups Eindhoven or Amsterdam might

have. I'd love to be a " worldly " hepper )

Be well yall,

Alley

[Guest guest]

Alley, hope u have a wonderful trip!!! You sure deserve to have fun... we

are also leaving for a kind of vaca. We'll be going to D.C. for a few days.

My husband has 2 author talk/book signings there. Leaving Sunday am, but

will be back by Thursday. We'll drive..cause it's only about 6 & 1/2 hr

ride. But a nice change nonetheless! Anyway, have a relaxing, fun &

joyfilled time in Holland..luv, mzgee

[Guest guest]

Yep Alley....have a great time in Holland. My friend in Holland offered for me

to come there and stay for a whole year to get the good treatment LOL....nice of

her, but I can't up and leave for a year. I am going to Vegas for the last week

of February.....my last chance for fun before starting treatment again.

Carol

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Alley, hope u have a wonderful trip!!! You sure deserve to have fun... we

are also leaving for a kind of vaca. We'll be going to D.C. for a few days.

My husband has 2 author talk/book signings there. Leaving Sunday am, but

will be back by Thursday. We'll drive..cause it's only about 6 & 1/2 hr

ride. But a nice change nonetheless! Anyway, have a relaxing, fun &

joyfilled time in Holland..luv, mzgee

[Guest guest]

LOL Willem....you always get me laughing!!!

Carol

OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Hey folks! Got my tickets to fly to Holland in Feb! I'll be flying out Jan

31 to Brussels (cheaper than landing at Amsterdam) and returning Feb 17.

I'll be turning all my egroups off to no mail at that time.

You guys don't know how much this trip will mean to me! It's like a reward

for the years of interferon and crap that goes with it. I feel pretty good now,

but fighting the chronic hives thing still. Had a bad flare up recently and now

I'm back on prednisone. Shrink put me on Ativan and Loxapro, in addition to my

Wellbutrin. So for 2 days now, I've been sleeping or groggy. And that with .25

Ativan! Hopefully my body will adjust, if it doesn't in a few days I will call

her and tell her I can't handle this. I did some kind of cholesterol medicine

for a while hoping to pull bile from my gut, if that is what was causing this,

but it didn't stop the itching and just made me constipated. (too much inf?

haha) This itching is really making me nuts. Should it get worse, I'm not sure

what else they can do. Allergist had to convince me that it wasn't going to

last the rest of my life, at least not the worst part.

So Willem, here I come!

I will also look for any local hep support groups Eindhoven or Amsterdam

might have. I'd love to be a " worldly " hepper )

Be well yall,

Alley

[Guest guest]

mzgee I didn't know your husband wrote. What does he write? Have fun and tel

us all about it.

Alley

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Alley, hope u have a wonderful trip!!! You sure deserve to have fun... we

are also leaving for a kind of vaca. We'll be going to D.C. for a few days.

My husband has 2 author talk/book signings there. Leaving Sunday am, but

will be back by Thursday. We'll drive..cause it's only about 6 & 1/2 hr

ride. But a nice change nonetheless! Anyway, have a relaxing, fun &

joyfilled time in Holland..luv, mzgee

[Guest guest]

haaaaaaaaaa Willlem you are too funny. Yep, it's cold there! But this is my

chance. I hope you feel better soon.

Alley

OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Hey folks! Got my tickets to fly to Holland in Feb! I'll be flying out Jan

31 to Brussels (cheaper than landing at Amsterdam) and returning Feb 17.

I'll be turning all my egroups off to no mail at that time.

You guys don't know how much this trip will mean to me! It's like a reward

for the years of interferon and crap that goes with it. I feel pretty good now,

but fighting the chronic hives thing still. Had a bad flare up recently and now

I'm back on prednisone. Shrink put me on Ativan and Loxapro, in addition to my

Wellbutrin. So for 2 days now, I've been sleeping or groggy. And that with .25

Ativan! Hopefully my body will adjust, if it doesn't in a few days I will call

her and tell her I can't handle this. I did some kind of cholesterol medicine

for a while hoping to pull bile from my gut, if that is what was causing this,

but it didn't stop the itching and just made me constipated. (too much inf?

haha) This itching is really making me nuts. Should it get worse, I'm not sure

what else they can do. Allergist had to convince me that it wasn't going to

last the rest of my life, at least not the worst part.

So Willem, here I come!

I will also look for any local hep support groups Eindhoven or Amsterdam

might have. I'd love to be a " worldly " hepper )

Be well yall,

Alley

[Guest guest]

Wow, Carol, if I had a friend in Hollland who offered for me to come stay for a

year to get tx, I would be there in a flash. But my only family is four legged

and I have no other ties here so other than my cats, I could pick up and be gone

pretty quickly. And the way things are going in the states, once there, I might

just stay...

Alley, have a fantastic time and treasure every minute of you vacation. And

remember, I might have to astral project to keep an eye on you and Willem <g>

Blessings

Tatezi

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Yep Alley....have a great time in Holland. My friend in Holland offered for

me to come there and stay for a whole year to get the good treatment LOL....nice

of her, but I can't up and leave for a year. I am going to Vegas for the last

week of February.....my last chance for fun before starting treatment again.

Carol

[Guest guest]

LOL Tatezi...it is tempting alright. But I'd have to live with her and her

boyfriend and the thing is: I've never even met her. My friend in Holand is a

woman I met on a chat line about 4 years ago....at that time she lived in

PA.....but was born in Holland. She phones me and we talk for two hours....we

call ourselves " twinnies " . It's amazing how many great people you can meet over

the internet. She says things in Holland aren't that great right now....lots of

unemployment...she's thinking of moving to England...she's like a gypsy....she's

lived in amost every country at one time or another. Lucky her.

Carol

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Yep Alley....have a great time in Holland. My friend in Holland offered for

me to come there and stay for a whole year to get the good treatment LOL....nice

of her, but I can't up and leave for a year. I am going to Vegas for the last

week of February.....my last chance for fun before starting treatment again.

Carol

[Guest guest]

I believe that both Holland and Belgium are tightning up the immigration

laws....Willem, can you confirm that? I have a friend in Belgium who does some

work with a refugee organization and she told me. There are ways though. All I

know is I have my passport and if I have to run for my life, I'm history.

Tatezi

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Yep Alley....have a great time in Holland. My friend in Holland offered

for me to come there and stay for a whole year to get the good treatment

LOL....nice of her, but I can't up and leave for a year. I am going to Vegas

for the last week of February.....my last chance for fun before starting

treatment again.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Hi Tatezi

From what I hear from my friend in Holland, it is a lot tougher to get your

papers. She met a guy over the internet from Spain....he came to Holland and

they live together. They have run circles to get his papers so he can work, but

after 18 months he still doesn't have them. So I think the answer is yes.

Carol

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Yep Alley....have a great time in Holland. My friend in Holland offered

for me to come there and stay for a whole year to get the good treatment

LOL....nice of her, but I can't up and leave for a year. I am going to Vegas

for the last week of February.....my last chance for fun before starting

treatment again.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Hey Alley, where did you purchase your tickets?

I will be going to Norway in April.

I wish you a most wonderful trip abroad.

Donna

[Guest guest]

HI.Spain is a member of the EEC.Citizens from spain hve the same right as dutch

citizens.So this is not true unless the guy does.nt hold a spanish

pasport.Emigration laws hve tightened after the 11th.If yre from western

origin,canadian,american,australian etc.etc. yhve no trouble staying in

holland.Yr pasport is not being stamped.There.re a lot of westerners staying and

working here for yrs.The problem is when yre coloured or hve Allah written on yr

forehead.There.re police checks in the street etc.Officially they hve to check

everybody but in reality they only pick on the coloured and muslim-looking

people and only in certain crime-invested areas.Police hve raids on houses where

they think illegal people are living.Unfortunately the non-western emigrants are

causing a lot of troulble,crime.I can.t help it but that.s the way it.s and it

will not improve also because of public demand.When the twintowers fell together

the world grew apart.Willem.

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Yep Alley....have a great time in Holland. My friend in Holland

offered for me to come there and stay for a whole year to get the good treatment

LOL....nice of her, but I can't up and leave for a year. I am going to Vegas

for the last week of February.....my last chance for fun before starting

treatment again.

Carol

[Guest guest]

I bid for my tickets at priceline.com Offered $275 for round trip and got it,

with taxes and fees it's $375. I couldn't book anywhere else less than $416

Alley

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Hey Alley, where did you purchase your tickets?

I will be going to Norway in April.

I wish you a most wonderful trip abroad.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Yeah...it's like Willem said....when the twin towers fell together, the world

fell apart.

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Yep Alley....have a great time in Holland. My friend in Holland

offered for me to come there and stay for a whole year to get the good treatment

LOL....nice of her, but I can't up and leave for a year. I am going to Vegas

for the last week of February.....my last chance for fun before starting

treatment again.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Hi Willem

Well, I don't know if Dave is from Spain originally....I think not cuz he sounds

American....no accent. I just know that he's having touble getting his papers

to work in Holland....if you have ideas, maybe you could email Francina? I

could be wrong about this whole thing. Brain fog?

Carol

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Yep Alley....have a great time in Holland. My friend in Holland

offered for me to come there and stay for a whole year to get the good treatment

LOL....nice of her, but I can't up and leave for a year. I am going to Vegas

for the last week of February.....my last chance for fun before starting

treatment again.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Hi Alley, we are back from D.C. and all went very well. He had a radio

interview and 2 author talk/book signings which went great. ) This book

is a memoir about our oldest sonn, who died at age 19 in 1995. He

also had another book published in Sept.1999 on homelessness.. You must be

getting very excited about your trip.....you'll have to send a cyber

postcard! luv gee

[Guest guest]

Hi Alley, we are back from D.C. and all went very well. He had a radio

interview and 2 author talk/book signings which went great. ) This book

is a memoir about our oldest sonn, who died at age 19 in 1995. He

also had another book published in Sept.1999 on homelessness.. You must be

getting very excited about your trip.....you'll have to send a cyber

postcard! luv gee

[Guest guest]

Hi Gee...

Glad your trip went well....your husbands book on homelessness...what is it's

theme? The problem of homelessness or the plight of the homeless themselves? I

would be interested in knowing more about that book as I've been spending time

with the homeless native americans that live under the train tracks behind my

apartment. They've taught me alot about survival as a homeless person and

actually have a little community (tribe) of them to make survival easier.

Tatezi

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Hi Alley, we are back from D.C. and all went very well. He had a radio

interview and 2 author talk/book signings which went great. ) This book

is a memoir about our oldest sonn, who died at age 19 in 1995. He

also had another book published in Sept.1999 on homelessness.. You must be

getting very excited about your trip.....you'll have to send a cyber

postcard! luv gee

[Guest guest]

Hi Gee...

Glad your trip went well....your husbands book on homelessness...what is it's

theme? The problem of homelessness or the plight of the homeless themselves? I

would be interested in knowing more about that book as I've been spending time

with the homeless native americans that live under the train tracks behind my

apartment. They've taught me alot about survival as a homeless person and

actually have a little community (tribe) of them to make survival easier.

Tatezi

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Hi Alley, we are back from D.C. and all went very well. He had a radio

interview and 2 author talk/book signings which went great. ) This book

is a memoir about our oldest sonn, who died at age 19 in 1995. He

also had another book published in Sept.1999 on homelessness.. You must be

getting very excited about your trip.....you'll have to send a cyber

postcard! luv gee

[Guest guest]

Glad your back safe and sound gee!

Me and others I'm sure would love it if you posted the book titles and author

name so we can go get it.

I got a new sketch book for my Holland trip. I like to do journals with

drawings, cutouts, doodles, pictures. I will post the url for my pictures when

I start putting them up on a website.

Alley

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Hi Alley, we are back from D.C. and all went very well. He had a radio

interview and 2 author talk/book signings which went great. ) This book

is a memoir about our oldest sonn, who died at age 19 in 1995. He

also had another book published in Sept.1999 on homelessness.. You must be

getting very excited about your trip.....you'll have to send a cyber

postcard! luv gee

[Guest guest]

Glad your back safe and sound gee!

Me and others I'm sure would love it if you posted the book titles and author

name so we can go get it.

I got a new sketch book for my Holland trip. I like to do journals with

drawings, cutouts, doodles, pictures. I will post the url for my pictures when

I start putting them up on a website.

Alley

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Hi Alley, we are back from D.C. and all went very well. He had a radio

interview and 2 author talk/book signings which went great. ) This book

is a memoir about our oldest sonn, who died at age 19 in 1995. He

also had another book published in Sept.1999 on homelessness.. You must be

getting very excited about your trip.....you'll have to send a cyber

postcard! luv gee

[Guest guest]

Glad your back safe and sound gee!

Me and others I'm sure would love it if you posted the book titles and author

name so we can go get it.

I got a new sketch book for my Holland trip. I like to do journals with

drawings, cutouts, doodles, pictures. I will post the url for my pictures when

I start putting them up on a website.

Alley

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Hi Alley, we are back from D.C. and all went very well. He had a radio

interview and 2 author talk/book signings which went great. ) This book

is a memoir about our oldest sonn, who died at age 19 in 1995. He

also had another book published in Sept.1999 on homelessness.. You must be

getting very excited about your trip.....you'll have to send a cyber

postcard! luv gee

[Guest guest]

Glad your back safe and sound gee!

Me and others I'm sure would love it if you posted the book titles and author

name so we can go get it.

I got a new sketch book for my Holland trip. I like to do journals with

drawings, cutouts, doodles, pictures. I will post the url for my pictures when

I start putting them up on a website.

Alley

Re: OFF TOPIC SORTA - Holland in Feb!

Hi Alley, we are back from D.C. and all went very well. He had a radio

interview and 2 author talk/book signings which went great. ) This book

is a memoir about our oldest sonn, who died at age 19 in 1995. He

also had another book published in Sept.1999 on homelessness.. You must be

getting very excited about your trip.....you'll have to send a cyber

postcard! luv gee

[Guest guest]

Tat, his book deals with both...he did many interviews with homeless folks in

New Haven, Ct. At the time, he was project coordinator for Access. This

program dealt with meeting folks exactly where they are...be it a cup of hot

coffee every morning under the highway, parking garages etc, to finding

permanent housing and medical help. The program was eliminated a couple of

years ago. he now heads up the Program on poverty, dissability and addiction

in new haven. This sememster he will also be teaching a coourse on

homelessness to Yale sociology students. gee