Re: Rebetron and drug testing

April 10, 2000

Dear Winnie,

I don't know much but I do know that a lot of things can make these

tests show false positives. A more sensitive test should be done which can

prove he did not take illegal drugs. Your lawyer should be able to get this

straightened out and get him his medication. Have you called his doctor?

Threaten to sue and call local news papers about them refusing him his

medications.

Claudine

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April 10, 2000

Dear Winnie,

I don't know much but I do know that a lot of things can make these

tests show false positives. A more sensitive test should be done which can

prove he did not take illegal drugs. Your lawyer should be able to get this

straightened out and get him his medication. Have you called his doctor?

Threaten to sue and call local news papers about them refusing him his

medications.

Claudine

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April 10, 2000

I am an LPN and used to work in an office that did hundreds of unrine drug

screens. The vicoprofen is a narcotic pain reliever and shows positive for

opiates. Any time a person takes narcotics prescribed by a Dr, all you need

to do is get written verification from your Dr or show the prescription

bottle to prove that it has been prescribed LEGALLY. I hope this info helps.

Good luck!

Amy

April 10, 2000

Dear Winnie,

I know you are worried about him but one thing to NOT worry about is

the combo treatment. He will not have missed long enough to really set him

back. Many doctors will stop treatment for a week or two sometimes when

blood counts get too low, and this will be less time than that.

I'll be waiting to hear from you on how he is doing, and the results

from this. I hope the newspapers come down hard on them. What ever

happened to innocent until proven guilty? I know they hear lots of fake

stories from people, but that is not a reason to quit listening!

What a nightmare for both of you. Don't forget to take care of yourself

during all of this.

Claudine

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April 10, 2000

Thank you all for the suggestions the newspapers is where I will have to go

next. They are still refusing him his medication at the jail and he is

getting worse and worse and the skin disease that he had has come back now

also on his hands so he is contagious to the rest of the inmates there - they

won't give him any bandaids to cover the blisters that pop open on his hands

now again like before the treatment.

The doctor is putting together something saying that his medication could

cause the false positive on the test since it is an experimental drug still.

Hoping that happened by the end of the day today and then the attorney will

take it to the judge and then they will release him hopefully tomorrow. The

attorney seemed to think that it could be done real fast once the doctor got

the letter faxed to him - he hoped it might happen today but didn't since my

appt wasn't until 1:00 this afternoon - hoping to get my poor sick abused

husband back home here tomorrow and get him cleaned up and to the doctor or

hospital to have documented the shape he is in when he does get out - from

not getting his medication and then the county or city better look out

because I am after them. It is supposed to be against the law not to give

him his medicine. He is still sleeping on the floor getting worse and worse.

Keep thinking the next phone call I get will be to tell me that he had to be

taken to the hospital at least then he would have a bed.

I will let you know tomorrow what has happened and thanks again for your

suggestions and support. The papers sound like a good idea for the next step.

I never thought I would be calling a jail house for 3 days trying to get

medication to my husband that is sitting there for him and was an hour after

they took him in on Friday with the proper paper work from the doctor so they

could give it to him. Just hoping all of this works by tomorrow. He missed

his first injection today of the inteferon and 3 days of the ribivarin. The

stress of all this is enough to kill him - its one of the worse things for

this disease and treatment. Thanks again!!

Winne

April 10, 2000

GO TO THE NEWSPAPERS ASAP and to all TV stations and

tell them this. Pinellas County Fl has got into so

much trouble for denying meds and things along this

line that maybe it will help. Several people have

died while in custody. The Newspapers here that carry

the stories are the St. sburg Times and The Tampa

Tribune call them maybe they could help you. I am

sorry I am not there or I would look up the #'s for

you but they should be on computer. St. sburg,

Fl is St. sburg Times and Tampa, FL is the Tampa

Tribune.....Good luck...They have web sites also

--- RLWINNE@... wrote:

> HELP

>

> Everyone - sending this out to all of you in hopes

> that you can help me with

> this problem I have here. My nusband is on

> probation for a DUI that he got 2

> years ago that he should have pleaded innocent to

> but could not go through

> the trial because of his illness chronic hepatitis C

> and the side effects

> from the rebetron treatment so he pleaded guilty and

> went on probation. They

> said that he failed his piss test Friday and put him

> in jail. We do not do

> illegal drugs and of course we do not drink now

> either. Is there any way

> that the medications Rebetron Vicoprofen elavil and

> zoloft could cause a

> false positive reaction in the urine. His probation

> officer told them at the

> jail that he is not sick so they have denied his

> medication since Friday

> Afternoon. I gave him his injection before we went

> over to see the probation

> officer that day so he has not missed any of that

> yet but all the rest of his

> medication he has and he needs his next shot this

> afternoon. I have an appt

> with lawyer this afternoon at 1:00 to see what can

> be done but if anyone has

> any information about this since it is still an

> experimental drug please let

> me know especially the doctor here - I need help we

> have worked to hard this

> past 7 months on getting his liver better and healed

> - he is in remission

> right now and we want to keep him that way by

> getting him out or at least

> getting his medication to him. WE DO NOT DO ILLEGAL

> DRUGS we only put the

> medication the doctor has ordered plenty of fluids

> and fruits and vegetables

> into his system. Thanks for listening and I will

> check back soon to see if

> anyone has any information on this. He is sleeping

> on the floor without his

> medication getting sicker by the minute with them

> telling him that he is

> faking the illness - not getting the fluids he needs

> either. This is a

> nightmare!!!!!!!!!

>

> Winne

>

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April 11, 2000

Claudine and Virginia

Thank you for all your thoughts and prayers at least someone out there is

listening to me. My husband is still not receiving his medication in jail

its been 5 days now. The doctor faxed a bunch of information to the attorney

and included something about stress and this disease being the worse thing

for it along with paper work where we had talked about this probation officer

not liking him anyway because he was sick and the way she was treating him

since we had talked to him about it. Hoping tomorrow is the day since I

didn't get him back today. I know the legal trail can take sometime but this

is an emergency now since the skin disease called porphyria is back in full

force and his hands are covered with blisters again that could spread to

other inmates. Now the doctor there is still refusing him his medicine and

trying to give him something that was not prescribed for him by his own

doctor. He doesn't want to take anything that will harm his liver more so he

is not taking it. It sounds to me like it is an antibiotic for his hands

which will not work since we had a doctor prescribing this for him and his

hands never cleared up with them and they only hurt his liver more that went

on for 4 years. Thats when we finally found out he had chronic hepatitis C

and started on the treatment. The Rebetron treatment was the only thing that

got rid of this porphyria he had which was gone and all healed up before this

all started and had been for at least 4 months now we will have to start all

over on that again.

You know if he had killed someone or hurt someone or robbed a bank I could

face up to all of this but he didn't do anything and that makes him feel even

worse. I'm giving my attorney one more day and then going to the other

avenues you have clued me in on and finding a new attorney that has some

compassion maybe and won't leave me hanging all day long expecting some

results and not hearing or getting any. Attorneys are wierd people I have

decided - as long as their lives are going ok you can go to hell.

Thanks again to both of you I feel like I may have someone in my corner here

and need that very much. Hugs to you and keep those prayers coming we need

all that we can get. Thanks for being here!!

Winne

April 11, 2000

Dear Winnie,

I find it so hard to believe that this is going on. What possible

reason could they have to withold his medication! I hope you called the

newspapers. Even a phone call from a reporter might wake them up, and if

not, this still needs to be brought to the attention of the public.

Good luck with the attorney. Is the doctor cooperating as much as he

can?

I hope we hear some good news from you tomorrow.

Claudine

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April 11, 2000

GO NOW ASAP TO THE MEDIA.......Connie

--- RLWINNE@... wrote:

> Claudine and Virginia

>

> Thank you for all your thoughts and prayers at least

> someone out there is

> listening to me. My husband is still not receiving

> his medication in jail

> its been 5 days now. The doctor faxed a bunch of

> information to the attorney

> and included something about stress and this disease

> being the worse thing

> for it along with paper work where we had talked

> about this probation officer

> not liking him anyway because he was sick and the

> way she was treating him

> since we had talked to him about it. Hoping

> tomorrow is the day since I

> didn't get him back today. I know the legal trail

> can take sometime but this

> is an emergency now since the skin disease called

> porphyria is back in full

> force and his hands are covered with blisters again

> that could spread to

> other inmates. Now the doctor there is still

> refusing him his medicine and

> trying to give him something that was not prescribed

> for him by his own

> doctor. He doesn't want to take anything that will

> harm his liver more so he

> is not taking it. It sounds to me like it is an

> antibiotic for his hands

> which will not work since we had a doctor

> prescribing this for him and his

> hands never cleared up with them and they only hurt

> his liver more that went

> on for 4 years. Thats when we finally found out he

> had chronic hepatitis C

> and started on the treatment. The Rebetron treatment

> was the only thing that

> got rid of this porphyria he had which was gone and

> all healed up before this

> all started and had been for at least 4 months now

> we will have to start all

> over on that again.

>

> You know if he had killed someone or hurt someone or

> robbed a bank I could

> face up to all of this but he didn't do anything and

> that makes him feel even

> worse. I'm giving my attorney one more day and then

> going to the other

> avenues you have clued me in on and finding a new

> attorney that has some

> compassion maybe and won't leave me hanging all day

> long expecting some

> results and not hearing or getting any. Attorneys

> are wierd people I have

> decided - as long as their lives are going ok you

> can go to hell.

>

> Thanks again to both of you I feel like I may have

> someone in my corner here

> and need that very much. Hugs to you and keep those

> prayers coming we need

> all that we can get. Thanks for being here!!

>

> Winne

>

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April 12, 2000

Winne,

My heart goes out to you, what a bunch of crap. I believe the vicoprofen

would show up positive on a drug UA because its a narcotic, I would think

that if you had a your Dr. write a letter or something to the effect that

your husband needs his medicine they can't withhold that either, has to

have visitors doesn't he, give him the shot and pills then and threaten to

sue, I would call my health care provider , they should be able to help

alot with this. Good Luck and keeep us informed.

Suzy

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Subject: Rebetron and drug testing

Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:26:54 EDT

HELP

Everyone - sending this out to all of you in hopes that you can help me with

this problem I have here. My nusband is on probation for a DUI that he got

2

years ago that he should have pleaded innocent to but could not go through

the trial because of his illness chronic hepatitis C and the side effects

from the rebetron treatment so he pleaded guilty and went on probation.

They

said that he failed his piss test Friday and put him in jail. We do not do

illegal drugs and of course we do not drink now either. Is there any way

that the medications Rebetron Vicoprofen elavil and zoloft could cause a

false positive reaction in the urine. His probation officer told them at

the

jail that he is not sick so they have denied his medication since Friday

Afternoon. I gave him his injection before we went over to see the

probation

officer that day so he has not missed any of that yet but all the rest of

his

medication he has and he needs his next shot this afternoon. I have an appt

with lawyer this afternoon at 1:00 to see what can be done but if anyone has

any information about this since it is still an experimental drug please let

me know especially the doctor here - I need help we have worked to hard this

past 7 months on getting his liver better and healed - he is in remission

right now and we want to keep him that way by getting him out or at least

getting his medication to him. WE DO NOT DO ILLEGAL DRUGS we only put the

medication the doctor has ordered plenty of fluids and fruits and vegetables

into his system. Thanks for listening and I will check back soon to see if

anyone has any information on this. He is sleeping on the floor without his

medication getting sicker by the minute with them telling him that he is

faking the illness - not getting the fluids he needs either. This is a

nightmare!!!!!!!!!

Winne

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April 13, 2000

Winne that's awful.. where are you? I'd send an email or call Schering

immediately, your doctor immediately and the city council or your rep

immediately. I got arrested a few months ago with my husband for a past due

traffic ticket we both had forgotten about years ago. We had a head light

out so they pull us over, next thing we know we are in jail calling someone

to come bail us out. Had I been on treatment or sicker with the hep I'd

really have been up the creek. When they arrest you tho you have to fill out

a form that asks if you are hep pos.. i chickened out and said no. I was

afraid of what they would do if i said yes. Perhaps I should call and ask.

Good luck with your husband. Let us know what happens please

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April 13, 2000

Hello all and thanks again for all your thoughts and ideas!!!!! My husband

is still in jail on the floor not getting a proper diet for the hep or the

fluids he needs or any of his medication tomorrow will make it a week. I

tried to get in to see him today and they wouldn't let me in. Going to try

again on Saturday the next visitation day. Now they are giving him

medication from the jail doctor and won't tell him what it is they say it is

none of his damn business so he is not taking it because we all know what

some of these medications can do to your liver and now that his is going

backwards again he is afraid of it. I have decided that I don't care who I

piss off now that I am going to persue this until someone in authority tells

me that he can not take the rebetron in jail. We live on the Gulfcoast here

in Mississippi I have a city councilman and his attorney working on this also

now along with attorneys of my own they have been on it since 30 minutes

after he was arrested and not much has been done yet. I have called the

families to rally here in a few days and hoping to get his medication to him

soon. Waiting to hear when his hearing is before the judge and getting

another attorney on Monday that is alittle more aggressive about getting his

medication to him. Doctors - Attorneys- and Judges sure do have a high

opinion of themselves and their time - I'm glad that I am just an average

person trying to make a living and live among the people that at least have

alittle compassion for others and their time. What a mess - I'm wore out but

will keep on until I have him on his medication don't care what it takes now

or who I piss off. I'm rambling and not making much since good thing I work

nights so I have been home here during the day to handle as much of this as I

can - can't imagine what it would be like if I worked days I would have had

to miss alot of work so far I only missed one night. We need the money bad

since his dissibility has been denied him for the 2nd time. He is really

starting to feel bad about himself now and that is not good either. Thanks

again for all your ideas and encouragement and support - wanted to update you

even if this doesn't make a whole lot of since at least I feel better and

that is what this is all about. Keep those ideas prayers and good thoughts

coming please we need all that we can get. Thanks alley never thought about

getting ahold of the schering corp. Will let you know who our

representatives are here at next posting. I get off work at 2am and keep my

computer off the rest of the time for the phone to be clear for any news to

help him. I have never had so many calls in my life but maybe one of them

will work here soon. You all take good care of yourselves as I wish my

husband was able to do right now. Stay positive!!

Winne

April 13, 2000