RE: acetiminophen or ibuprofen

[Guest guest]

this is weird to me because it seems even through my foggy reality that i've

read it said many times to absolutely avoid the acetominophen. i sure would

like to find that it's ok to take it.

> acetiminophen or ibuprofen

>

>

> I may be double posting, so excuses if I am. My girlfriend and I were

> diagnosed with hep c last week. I've been reading lots and getting

> conflicting info on whats worse, acetiminophen or ibuprofen. I've

> heard tylenol is poison for us and I've also heard its the safest otc.

> I'm wondering what people think.

>

> Mark in Seattle

>

> I've taken both Mark, and to me the ibuprofen helps me the best. My

> Doctor told me it was ok to take acetiminophen while I was on the

> interferon treatment. He said that was the only pain med that was

> tested with hepatitis and they knew what the results were. The others

> were untested and he didn't know how they would react with the virus.

> Ed.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was just speaking with a pharmacist, and she told me that acetominiphen is

very hard on the liver because only the liver processes it. Ibuprofen is mostly

processed by the kidneys.

Mark

bob Larson <bobLists@...> wrote:

this is weird to me because it seems even through my foggy reality that i've

read it said many times to absolutely avoid the acetominophen. i sure would

like to find that it's ok to take it.

> acetiminophen or ibuprofen

>

>

> I may be double posting, so excuses if I am. My girlfriend and I were

> diagnosed with hep c last week. I've been reading lots and getting

> conflicting info on whats worse, acetiminophen or ibuprofen. I've

> heard tylenol is poison for us and I've also heard its the safest otc.

> I'm wondering what people think.

>

> Mark in Seattle

>

> I've taken both Mark, and to me the ibuprofen helps me the best. My

> Doctor told me it was ok to take acetiminophen while I was on the

> interferon treatment. He said that was the only pain med that was

> tested with hepatitis and they knew what the results were. The others

> were untested and he didn't know how they would react with the virus.

> Ed.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would not recommend over the counter pain medication except for:

Ambesol, tooth and gum pain

Cloraseptic, sore throat spray

Aloe Vera and Lidocaine for Sunburn relief

Prescriptions for pain I the pt. use: (Chronic Pain Management advanced

regimen)

Midrin, for cardiovascular migraines at the temples, Surprisingly Midrin and

it generic may even contain some Tylenol/acetiminophen. How much I've never

bothered with but max dosage is two caps at onset of headache and one per hour

until headache subsides, not to exceed eight total in any 24 hour period. This

does it for me.

Salsalate for general body pain.

Paxil, or its generic. Not any of the others in this class have worked as

well. Chronic pain after awhile can give you chronic clinical depression is

something I tend to agree.

I felt this wonder drug interact in my head to regulate the seritonin produced

and not let it all get depleted.

Morephine, Oral Demerol, and Vicodin are real life savers once in a blue moon

if you can manage to get it and hang on to it for that rainy day or special time

needed most.

Good Luck

P

Mark D <ithinkimcanadian_2003@...> wrote:

I was just speaking with a pharmacist, and she told me that acetominiphen is

very hard on the liver because only the liver processes it. Ibuprofen is mostly

processed by the kidneys.

Mark

bob Larson <bobLists@...> wrote:

this is weird to me because it seems even through my foggy reality that i've

read it said many times to absolutely avoid the acetominophen. i sure would

like to find that it's ok to take it.

> acetiminophen or ibuprofen

>

>

> I may be double posting, so excuses if I am. My girlfriend and I were

> diagnosed with hep c last week. I've been reading lots and getting

> conflicting info on whats worse, acetiminophen or ibuprofen. I've

> heard tylenol is poison for us and I've also heard its the safest otc.

> I'm wondering what people think.

>

> Mark in Seattle

>

> I've taken both Mark, and to me the ibuprofen helps me the best. My

> Doctor told me it was ok to take acetiminophen while I was on the

> interferon treatment. He said that was the only pain med that was

> tested with hepatitis and they knew what the results were. The others

> were untested and he didn't know how they would react with the virus.

> Ed.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm having the same delima about pain medication. I have one doctor telling

me one thing and the other something else. I also have a condition known as

PA Psoriatic Arthritis.

The pain from the arthritis can be excruciating at times. Since I have found

out that I have the liver disease my PCP won't put me on anything for pain

at all.. doesn't even want me to take Tylenol. She had me on Indomethacin

before I was put on Imuran ad prednisone. Now is seems that is too much

anti-inflammatory medication altogether.

So.. even when the inflammation is down my hands, shoulders, feet and ankles

ache something awful. I was told by the Ruemy doctor the use Tylenol very

sparingly because of the effects on the liver. So.. am suffering today from

the arthritis severally. I Just wish I had something strong for when I was

really in bad pain. Hopefully tylenol, ice, or heat and rest will help me.

That

is usually what does the trick and not using the joints.

Anyway, didn't mean to write a book but just had to get my 2 cents in about

taking these

meds, and about the Tylenol..I have heard that people are having liver

failure from taking it so much and never knowing that they even had liver

disease.

I think of how much my mother suffered with arthritis and took tons of it as

well as naprason,(alieve) one of the two gave her a bleeding ulcer.

Judy

I must admit that I personally measure success in terms of the contributions

an individual makes to her or his fellow human beings.

Margaret Mead

[Guest guest]

The vicoprofen contains a small amound of Ibuprofen so may be fine to take

for pain if you cannot use Tylenol which is really bad on the liver. Usual

dosage on Ibuprofen is 600 for a lot of inflammation. However, if you are

taking celebrex or any other NSAID (non steroid anti-inflammatory drug) you need

to be careful not to mix it with ibuprophen which would result in too much ant

inflammatory medication.

With me, I am on 2 steroids for the hepatitis which both contain anti

inflammatory med. and I still hurt from the arthritis. Go FIGURE??? I was told

by

the liver doc and my MD that these would relieve the inflammation in my liver

and joints and that I should be getting some relief. I found some info on

Vicoprofen and copied and pasted it below. I hope that is helpful.

Each VICOPROFEN® _tablet_ (javascript:defwindow('tablet')) contains:

Hydrocodone Bitartrate, USP 7.5 _mg_ (javascript:defwindow('mg'))

Ibuprofen, USP 200 _mg_ (javascript:defwindow('mg'))

VICOPROFEN is supplied in a fixed combination _tablet_

(javascript:defwindow('tablet')) _form_ (javascript:defwindow('form')) for

_oral_

(javascript:defwindow('oral')) administration. VICOPROFEN combines the

_opioid_

(javascript:defwindow('opioid')) _analgesic_

(javascript:defwindow('analgesic')) agent,

hydrocodone bitartrate, with the nonsteroidal _anti-inflammatory_

(javascript:defwindow('anti-inflammatory')) (NSAID) agent, ibuprofen.

Hydrocodone bitartrate is a _semisynthetic_

(javascript:defwindow('semisynthetic')) and centrally acting _opioid_

(javascript:defwindow('opioid'))

analgesic. Its _chemical_ (javascript:defwindow('chemical')) name is: 4,5

(alpha)-epoxy-3-methoxy-17-methylmorphinan-6-one tartrate (1:1) _hydrate_

(javascript:defwindow('hydrate')) (2:5). Its _chemical_

(javascript:defwindow('chemical')) _formula_ (javascript:defwindow('formula'))

is: C 18 H 21 NO 3 ·C 4 H

6 O 6 ·2 1 / 2 H 2 O, and the molecular _weight_

(javascript:defwindow('weight')) is 494.50. _structural_

(javascript:defwindow('structural')) _formula_

(javascript:defwindow('formula')) is:

Ibuprofen is a nonsteroidal _anti-inflammatory_

(javascript:defwindow('anti-inflammatory')) _drug_

(javascript:defwindow('drug')) with _analgesic_

(javascript:defwindow('analgesic')) and antipyretic properties. Its _chemical_

(javascript:defwindow('chemical')) name is: (±)-2-( p -isobutylphenyl)

propionic acid. Its _chemical_ (javascript:defwindow('chemical')) _formula_

(javascript:defwindow('formula')) is: C 13 H 18 O 2 , and the molecular

_weight_

(javascript:defwindow('weight')) is: 206.29. _structural_

(javascript:defwindow('structural')) _formula_

(javascript:defwindow('formula')) is:

Inactive ingredients in VICOPROFEN tablets include: colloidal _silicon_

(javascript:defwindow('silicon')) dioxide, _corn_

(javascript:defwindow('corn'))

starch, croscarmellose sodium, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, magnesium

stearate, _microcrystalline_ (javascript:defwindow('microcrystalline'))

cellulose, _polyethylene_ (javascript:defwindow('polyethylene')) glycol,

polysorbate

80, and _titanium_ (javascript:defwindow('titanium')) dioxide.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dale,

I just got off the phone with the pharmacist. I think they know so much more

than the doctors about the compounds and uses for the meds. He said, you

can take NSAID like ibuprofen for inflammation in your joints because it works

differently than the imuran and prednisone . They are meant to suppress and

so have anti inflammatory effects but do not work the same as ibuprofen,

naproxen, etc. So..I have a call into my doc to see if I can get some of the

vicopren when I am really bad. It doesn't have a lot of celebrex, only 200 mg.

and

has the pain killer without the tylenol.. Wow.. that was a mouth full. lol.

I am learning all this stuff, but it takes a while.

Judy

I must admit that I personally measure success in terms of the contributions

an individual makes to her or his fellow human beings.

Margaret Mead

[Guest guest]

My doctor told me to stay away from ibuprofen and used tylenol sparingly. I

think damage is by intake quantity not just the taking of it. It varies with

other personal health issue as well. Dale

Mark D <ithinkimcanadian_2003@...> wrote: I was just speaking with a

pharmacist, and she told me that acetominiphen is very hard on the liver because

only the liver processes it. Ibuprofen is mostly processed by the kidneys.

Mark

bob Larson <bobLists@...> wrote:

this is weird to me because it seems even through my foggy reality that i've

read it said many times to absolutely avoid the acetominophen. i sure would

like to find that it's ok to take it.

> acetiminophen or ibuprofen

>

>

> I may be double posting, so excuses if I am. My girlfriend and I were

> diagnosed with hep c last week. I've been reading lots and getting

> conflicting info on whats worse, acetiminophen or ibuprofen. I've

> heard tylenol is poison for us and I've also heard its the safest otc.

> I'm wondering what people think.

>

> Mark in Seattle

>

> I've taken both Mark, and to me the ibuprofen helps me the best. My

> Doctor told me it was ok to take acetiminophen while I was on the

> interferon treatment. He said that was the only pain med that was

> tested with hepatitis and they knew what the results were. The others

> were untested and he didn't know how they would react with the virus.

> Ed.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bob:

My doctor only lets me take Tylenol Extra Strenth and I can only take 2000 mg

per day (4 pills) He tells me that I must be alert about other meds so as not to

increase the amount of Acetaminophen by accident. I now read all small print.

Janis and friends has an article by a University of Tennessee professor that

explains when to and not to use (tylenol) in dealing with Hep C. Dale

bob Larson <bobLists@...> wrote:

this is weird to me because it seems even through my foggy reality that i've

read it said many times to absolutely avoid the acetominophen. i sure would

like to find that it's ok to take it.

> acetiminophen or ibuprofen

>

>

> I may be double posting, so excuses if I am. My girlfriend and I were

> diagnosed with hep c last week. I've been reading lots and getting

> conflicting info on whats worse, acetiminophen or ibuprofen. I've

> heard tylenol is poison for us and I've also heard its the safest otc.

> I'm wondering what people think.

>

> Mark in Seattle

>

> I've taken both Mark, and to me the ibuprofen helps me the best. My

> Doctor told me it was ok to take acetiminophen while I was on the

> interferon treatment. He said that was the only pain med that was

> tested with hepatitis and they knew what the results were. The others

> were untested and he didn't know how they would react with the virus.

> Ed.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have one doctor that has me on Vicoprofen for pain - this contains

ibuprofen. Then my rheumatologist put me on Vicoden which contains Tylenol

since I was also taking Celebrex - would be too much anti-inflammatory. He

said I was OK with Tylenol as long as the dose was low enough. The

neurologist said I was OK with the ibuprofen and the Celebrex! Go figure.

I see a hepatologist this week and will get yet another opinion........

acetiminophen or ibuprofen

>

>

> I may be double posting, so excuses if I am. My girlfriend and I were

> diagnosed with hep c last week. I've been reading lots and getting

> conflicting info on whats worse, acetiminophen or ibuprofen. I've

> heard tylenol is poison for us and I've also heard its the safest otc.

> I'm wondering what people think.

>

> Mark in Seattle

>

> I've taken both Mark, and to me the ibuprofen helps me the best. My

> Doctor told me it was ok to take acetiminophen while I was on the

> interferon treatment. He said that was the only pain med that was

> tested with hepatitis and they knew what the results were. The others

> were untested and he didn't know how they would react with the virus.

> Ed.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dorthy we must all go to the very same doctors, Dale

Dorothy <dorv@...> wrote: I have one doctor that has me on Vicoprofen

for pain - this contains

ibuprofen. Then my rheumatologist put me on Vicoden which contains Tylenol

since I was also taking Celebrex - would be too much anti-inflammatory. He

said I was OK with Tylenol as long as the dose was low enough. The

neurologist said I was OK with the ibuprofen and the Celebrex! Go figure.

I see a hepatologist this week and will get yet another opinion........

acetiminophen or ibuprofen

>

>

> I may be double posting, so excuses if I am. My girlfriend and I were

> diagnosed with hep c last week. I've been reading lots and getting

> conflicting info on whats worse, acetiminophen or ibuprofen. I've

> heard tylenol is poison for us and I've also heard its the safest otc.

> I'm wondering what people think.

>

> Mark in Seattle

>

> I've taken both Mark, and to me the ibuprofen helps me the best. My

> Doctor told me it was ok to take acetiminophen while I was on the

> interferon treatment. He said that was the only pain med that was

> tested with hepatitis and they knew what the results were. The others

> were untested and he didn't know how they would react with the virus.

> Ed.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dorthy we must all go to the very same doctors, Dale

Dorothy <dorv@...> wrote: I have one doctor that has me on Vicoprofen

for pain - this contains

ibuprofen. Then my rheumatologist put me on Vicoden which contains Tylenol

since I was also taking Celebrex - would be too much anti-inflammatory. He

said I was OK with Tylenol as long as the dose was low enough. The

neurologist said I was OK with the ibuprofen and the Celebrex! Go figure.

I see a hepatologist this week and will get yet another opinion........

acetiminophen or ibuprofen

>

>

> I may be double posting, so excuses if I am. My girlfriend and I were

> diagnosed with hep c last week. I've been reading lots and getting

> conflicting info on whats worse, acetiminophen or ibuprofen. I've

> heard tylenol is poison for us and I've also heard its the safest otc.

> I'm wondering what people think.

>

> Mark in Seattle

>

> I've taken both Mark, and to me the ibuprofen helps me the best. My

> Doctor told me it was ok to take acetiminophen while I was on the

> interferon treatment. He said that was the only pain med that was

> tested with hepatitis and they knew what the results were. The others

> were untested and he didn't know how they would react with the virus.

> Ed.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Judy:

my sister in laws doctor (she has your symptoms) told her that 20 minutes was

the max on heat on joints. After that it could increase the pain. Ice is best

but I can't stand the cold since I've been on treatment. Dale

judyinkyjc@... wrote:

I'm having the same delima about pain medication. I have one doctor telling

me one thing and the other something else. I also have a condition known as

PA Psoriatic Arthritis.

The pain from the arthritis can be excruciating at times. Since I have found

out that I have the liver disease my PCP won't put me on anything for pain

at all.. doesn't even want me to take Tylenol. She had me on Indomethacin

before I was put on Imuran ad prednisone. Now is seems that is too much

anti-inflammatory medication altogether.

So.. even when the inflammation is down my hands, shoulders, feet and ankles

ache something awful. I was told by the Ruemy doctor the use Tylenol very

sparingly because of the effects on the liver. So.. am suffering today from

the arthritis severally. I Just wish I had something strong for when I was

really in bad pain. Hopefully tylenol, ice, or heat and rest will help me.

That

is usually what does the trick and not using the joints.

Anyway, didn't mean to write a book but just had to get my 2 cents in about

taking these

meds, and about the Tylenol..I have heard that people are having liver

failure from taking it so much and never knowing that they even had liver

disease.

I think of how much my mother suffered with arthritis and took tons of it as

well as naprason,(alieve) one of the two gave her a bleeding ulcer.

Judy

I must admit that I personally measure success in terms of the contributions

an individual makes to her or his fellow human beings.

Margaret Mead

[Guest guest]

Vicoprofen does not contain Celebrex. It is hydrocodone (a narcotic) and

ibuprofen.

Re: acetiminophen or ibuprofen

Thanks Dale,

I just got off the phone with the pharmacist. I think they know so much

more

than the doctors about the compounds and uses for the meds. He said, you

can take NSAID like ibuprofen for inflammation in your joints because it

works

differently than the imuran and prednisone . They are meant to suppress and

so have anti inflammatory effects but do not work the same as ibuprofen,

naproxen, etc. So..I have a call into my doc to see if I can get some of

the

vicopren when I am really bad. It doesn't have a lot of celebrex, only 200

mg. and

has the pain killer without the tylenol.. Wow.. that was a mouth full. lol.

I am learning all this stuff, but it takes a while.

Judy

[Guest guest]

Dave,

I'm thinking by now that I may have to do the same thing or have a tooth

ache. lol

My last doctor gave me pain medication along with anti-inflammatory meds

knowing that I had high liver enzymes. I don't know how much tylenol is in

darvacet which isn't that strong but did take the edge off.. Needless to say,

he

was feeding my liver poison. I do think we should have something strong, like

you mentioned, for those really bad times. I have suffered though nights of

pain using ice and heat because of joint inflammation.

Thanks for the tip on the heat for the arthritis. I think it was you that

said your sister has the same symptoms I have. I sure don't want to feel any

worse.

Earlier I I took Niquel because I was having these flu like symptoms with

every part of me aching, plus chills, sneezing, coughing. After 30 minutes I

was asleep and rested well. These short naps help me make it through a day.

There is 1000 mg of tylenol in there plus the other stuff for flu symptoms and

little bit of alcohol.

I figured my rest was more important right now. I have been suffering

through these flu like symptoms which my doctor says are probably related to

the

suppressant meds along with the auto immune hepatitis.

Yesterday was a good day. My man and I went out to eat and to see Sentinal

with . . I think it helps me physically to get out when I am

having a good day and do something fun.

I appreciate this group so much. Thanks everyone for making me feel so

welcome and providing me with lots of information and support.

Judy in KY

I must admit that I personally measure success in terms of the contributions

an individual makes to her or his fellow human beings.

Margaret Mead

[Guest guest]

it appears that straight narcotics with nothing else in them would be the

best thing.

guess i need to scrounge around south baltimore for my occasional extreme

need stash... & probably get robbed & killed but that might not be so bad

actually.

the consensus i'm reading is that a bit of acetominophen rarely shouldn't be

a big deal. i have an antique stash of tylenol-3's & a few percocets

(contains acetomin...)that i finally had to dip into for the first time in a

few years when things flared up a couple weeks ago. a percocet let me be

able to sleep where i'd been unable to get in any position without pain

until it kicked in....the next morning i felt lots better than i had in a

couple weeks & i took 400mg ibuprofen anyway & was completely back to normal

by afternoon & able to work. i very rarely take anything at all being rather

blessed to not have a lot of chronic pain & just try to weather out

flare-ups...

thanks everybody!

bobL

> Re: acetiminophen or ibuprofen

>

>

> Thanks Dale,

> I just got off the phone with the pharmacist. I think they know so much

> more

> than the doctors about the compounds and uses for the meds. He said, you

> can take NSAID like ibuprofen for inflammation in your joints because it

> works

> differently than the imuran and prednisone . They are meant to

> suppress and

> so have anti inflammatory effects but do not work the same as ibuprofen,

> naproxen, etc. So..I have a call into my doc to see if I can get some of

> the

> vicopren when I am really bad. It doesn't have a lot of

> celebrex, only 200

> mg. and

> has the pain killer without the tylenol.. Wow.. that was a mouth

> full. lol.

> I am learning all this stuff, but it takes a while.

>

>

>

> Judy

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information Judy:

My doctor started me out on so many drugs and none of which I asked for. I am

taking Pegasys, Copegus, Nupogen, Extra Strength Tylenol, Diovan, Lexapro,

Ambien, Darvon, Anavert. This combo of drugs lasted a few weeks and I had become

a vegatable. I threw the Darvon and Anavert out first and waited a few weeks

until my system adjusted and then the Tylenol (except on rare occations), just

tappered myself off of the Lexapro and now they are gone. This morning I got up

and looked in the mirror and said hello to a fellow I haven't seen in months.

Next week I am going to start hacking away at the Diovan. Weight is coming back.

Blood pressure is at an all time low. I had lost approximately 24 pounds and

have gained 6 back in two weeks. I know I have to stay with the hep drugs for 24

more weeks but good or bad I like to feel like myself. I'm glad you are such a

detailed person and chase things to their root cause or answer. Right now with

the brain fog I just don't have the

congnitive skills to get it done. You are appreciated. Dale

judyinkyjc@... wrote:

Thanks Dale,

I just got off the phone with the pharmacist. I think they know so much more

than the doctors about the compounds and uses for the meds. He said, you

can take NSAID like ibuprofen for inflammation in your joints because it works

differently than the imuran and prednisone . They are meant to suppress and

so have anti inflammatory effects but do not work the same as ibuprofen,

naproxen, etc. So..I have a call into my doc to see if I can get some of the

vicopren when I am really bad. It doesn't have a lot of celebrex, only 200 mg.

and

has the pain killer without the tylenol.. Wow.. that was a mouth full. lol.

I am learning all this stuff, but it takes a while.

Judy

I must admit that I personally measure success in terms of the contributions

an individual makes to her or his fellow human beings.

Margaret Mead

[Guest guest]

Vicodin is usually mixed with acetiminophen , so I'd stay away from it. You can

usually tell pain meds that have acetiminophen because the pills are big.

I found tramidol, and recommend it. It works like an opiate, but isnt one. The

two types are ultam and ultracet. Ultarcet has acetiminophen, so it's a no-no,

but ultram doesnt contain acetiminophen, so its ok.

Mark

Murchison <stu1958@...> wrote:

I would not recommend over the counter pain medication except for:

Ambesol, tooth and gum pain

Cloraseptic, sore throat spray

Aloe Vera and Lidocaine for Sunburn relief

Prescriptions for pain I the pt. use: (Chronic Pain Management advanced

regimen)

Midrin, for cardiovascular migraines at the temples, Surprisingly Midrin and

it generic may even contain some Tylenol/acetiminophen. How much I've never

bothered with but max dosage is two caps at onset of headache and one per hour

until headache subsides, not to exceed eight total in any 24 hour period. This

does it for me.

Salsalate for general body pain.

Paxil, or its generic. Not any of the others in this class have worked as

well. Chronic pain after awhile can give you chronic clinical depression is

something I tend to agree.

I felt this wonder drug interact in my head to regulate the seritonin produced

and not let it all get depleted.

Morephine, Oral Demerol, and Vicodin are real life savers once in a blue moon

if you can manage to get it and hang on to it for that rainy day or special time

needed most.

Good Luck

P

Mark D <ithinkimcanadian_2003@...> wrote:

I was just speaking with a pharmacist, and she told me that acetominiphen is

very hard on the liver because only the liver processes it. Ibuprofen is mostly

processed by the kidneys.

Mark

bob Larson <bobLists@...> wrote:

this is weird to me because it seems even through my foggy reality that i've

read it said many times to absolutely avoid the acetominophen. i sure would

like to find that it's ok to take it.

> acetiminophen or ibuprofen

>

>

> I may be double posting, so excuses if I am. My girlfriend and I were

> diagnosed with hep c last week. I've been reading lots and getting

> conflicting info on whats worse, acetiminophen or ibuprofen. I've

> heard tylenol is poison for us and I've also heard its the safest otc.

> I'm wondering what people think.

>

> Mark in Seattle

>

> I've taken both Mark, and to me the ibuprofen helps me the best. My

> Doctor told me it was ok to take acetiminophen while I was on the

> interferon treatment. He said that was the only pain med that was

> tested with hepatitis and they knew what the results were. The others

> were untested and he didn't know how they would react with the virus.

> Ed.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I saw a liver specialist today and asked about the Tylenol issue. He said I

was much better off taking Tylenol than ibuprofen. I told him I had heard

that Tylenol was poison to the liver and he said it was the safest thing to

use - in moderation.

I'm still not convinced.

Re: acetiminophen or ibuprofen

I'm having the same delima about pain medication. I have one doctor

telling

me one thing and the other something else. I also have a condition known as

PA Psoriatic Arthritis.

The pain from the arthritis can be excruciating at times. Since I have

found

out that I have the liver disease my PCP won't put me on anything for pain

at all.. doesn't even want me to take Tylenol. She had me on Indomethacin

before I was put on Imuran ad prednisone. Now is seems that is too much

anti-inflammatory medication altogether.

So.. even when the inflammation is down my hands, shoulders, feet and

ankles

ache something awful. I was told by the Ruemy doctor the use Tylenol very

sparingly because of the effects on the liver. So.. am suffering today

from

the arthritis severally. I Just wish I had something strong for when I was

really in bad pain. Hopefully tylenol, ice, or heat and rest will help me.

That

is usually what does the trick and not using the joints.

Anyway, didn't mean to write a book but just had to get my 2 cents in about

taking these

meds, and about the Tylenol..I have heard that people are having liver

failure from taking it so much and never knowing that they even had liver

disease.

I think of how much my mother suffered with arthritis and took tons of it

as

well as naprason,(alieve) one of the two gave her a bleeding ulcer.

Judy

I must admit that I personally measure success in terms of the

contributions

an individual makes to her or his fellow human beings.

Margaret Mead

[Guest guest]

Dorothy

My Hepotologist told me the exact same thing. I take four a day maximum.

Moderation is the key. It's the best thing unless you over do it. Dale

Dorothy <dorv@...> wrote:

I saw a liver specialist today and asked about the Tylenol issue. He said I

was much better off taking Tylenol than ibuprofen. I told him I had heard

that Tylenol was poison to the liver and he said it was the safest thing to

use - in moderation.

I'm still not convinced.

Re: acetiminophen or ibuprofen

I'm having the same delima about pain medication. I have one doctor

telling

me one thing and the other something else. I also have a condition known as

PA Psoriatic Arthritis.

The pain from the arthritis can be excruciating at times. Since I have

found

out that I have the liver disease my PCP won't put me on anything for pain

at all.. doesn't even want me to take Tylenol. She had me on Indomethacin

before I was put on Imuran ad prednisone. Now is seems that is too much

anti-inflammatory medication altogether.

So.. even when the inflammation is down my hands, shoulders, feet and

ankles

ache something awful. I was told by the Ruemy doctor the use Tylenol very

sparingly because of the effects on the liver. So.. am suffering today

from

the arthritis severally. I Just wish I had something strong for when I was

really in bad pain. Hopefully tylenol, ice, or heat and rest will help me.

That

is usually what does the trick and not using the joints.

Anyway, didn't mean to write a book but just had to get my 2 cents in about

taking these

meds, and about the Tylenol..I have heard that people are having liver

failure from taking it so much and never knowing that they even had liver

disease.

I think of how much my mother suffered with arthritis and took tons of it

as

well as naprason,(alieve) one of the two gave her a bleeding ulcer.

Judy

I must admit that I personally measure success in terms of the

contributions

an individual makes to her or his fellow human beings.

Margaret Mead