Re: One on One With da Marriage Counselor

[Guest guest]

Amen what the marriage counselor said!! Remove youself and anything you

value. I was never that smart. Got stuck with the garbage and the bills.

What did the counselor say about the kid? Any suggestions there? Have you

got a divorce atty yet? You NEED one!

And that water bearer, any special uniform required?

Sally

One on One With da Marriage Counselor

Well the big day arrived:

Judith the marriage counselor and I had a nice private meeting. Told

her about all the lies and stealing and trickery. She sorta knew

anyway it was no big surprize. I tried to keep it out of the sessions

cause the ex goes ballistic but had hinted some and she saw how she

never did anything we agreed to and tried to trick me with the lawyers

fake contracts.

She basically said screw your wife Mike and just take care of

yourself. Said it was nice I was compasionate but she's history and I

would not let her come back if she wanted and I said yup. Maybe if we

have therapy together one day I can tell her about my water bringer

fantasy.

Mike

[Guest guest]

Sally,

Yeah got an attn. Very expensive. Supposed to be real good. We

shall see.

Counselor said Mali's care was a problem for me and I would have to

hope she learned to be a better Mommy when there was no Daddy

around. She said sometimes they improve when on their own and if

they don't you can always put a contract out on em. Just kiddin...

Told her how the ex only seems capable of remembering stuff she finds

fun. She suggested calling to remind every time the kid needs to

take meds or something. That's what I been doing. I knew all this

was bad for Mali and that's why I tried so hard for so long. Perhaps

a shock collar for the wife. Shock her when it's time for Mali's

vitamin unless she calls ahead of time to say she remembered. I

think her memory would improve real fast.

Counselor sorta said that Mali being there may have disturbed the

ex's weird excuse for love. Like the ex only can take one person in

close contact at a time and I agreed it did sorta feel like she

transfered from me to the kid somewhat. Although I never saw

anything like that about borderlines but I did not study it

extensively.

If it was just me I'd a bailed 6 months ago when she said she wanted

a divorce. She's lucky I'm not 28 now too. The 28 year old me

woulda grabbed her snotty a55 out of bed in her jammies when she said

it, over the sholder carry and thrown her out in the yard and locked

the door. Not violent, just forceful and watch you head going thru

the door ways dear.

That would have been how it ended nice clean and efficient with the

neigbors and the Police in the yard to try to get her back in and me

throwing the clothes out in the back yard thru the window. Want a

Divorce Honey Fine Since You Suggested It Let's Start Now... Usually

I think I'm a better person now but sometimes miss the dumb young

me. I was fun sometimes back then.

I'm still smiling thinking about the astonished look she'd have when

I throw her off my sholder and she's sailing thru the air with her

butt only half way to the ground. That I can't believe you just did

that look I used to love inspiring. Sigh...

For the water bearer: I was thinking as you suggested earlier, you

nude with hair uncombed and that crazy riba glow in your eyes. Not

really a full blown rage just a kinda lively look like " OK big boy we

can fight or we can f & $# which one are you in the mood for tonight. "

Women on TX are very sexy and dangerous too. What a thrill..

But then you see I'm tired and say " here honey have your nice cool

water first while you think it over. " And I smile and say Thank You

this water is pure bliss and sigh with delight. And then I say did I

ever tell you your the woman of my sweetest fantasy and you say every

day babe every day.

Then you say I just wish that damn dog would stop knawing that bone

so hard it sounds like he's chewing thru the floor. And I say well

your already naked and riba dosed why not go up there and growel at

him again. Last time he stopped chewing that bone the whole week he

was winning and crying under the couch. And you say yeah but the

constant whinning was worse than the knawing. An I say WTF bet we

don't even notice it any more if we roll up soma granpa's bull

durram? And day 136 of treatment slides by in a nice daze somewhere

in the Pacific North West.

Mike

>

> Amen what the marriage counselor said!! Remove youself and

anything you

> value. I was never that smart. Got stuck with the garbage and the

bills.

>

> What did the counselor say about the kid? Any suggestions there?

Have you

> got a divorce atty yet? You NEED one!

>

> And that water bearer, any special uniform required?

>

> Sally

>

> One on One With da Marriage

Counselor

>

>

> Well the big day arrived:

>

> Judith the marriage counselor and I had a nice private meeting.

Told

> her about all the lies and stealing and trickery. She sorta knew

> anyway it was no big surprize. I tried to keep it out of the

sessions

> cause the ex goes ballistic but had hinted some and she saw how she

> never did anything we agreed to and tried to trick me with the

lawyers

> fake contracts.

>

> She basically said screw your wife Mike and just take care of

> yourself. Said it was nice I was compasionate but she's history

and I

> would not let her come back if she wanted and I said yup. Maybe if

we

> have therapy together one day I can tell her about my water bringer

> fantasy.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

Ooh, where are you? Up in the Pacific Northwest is my

idea of Dream Country - finally enough green for my

eyes. I LOVE the tepid rain forest, big ferns, nice

big banana slugs, lots of rain, boot-and-sweater

weather, ah bliss! I grew up in Sacramento and lived

in the Napa Valley for 30 years and loved it there,

but it's still to damn hot and sunny there. And people

kept asking me to go to Mexico for vacation and I kept

saying Anywhere hotter and sunnier than here is my

idea of Living Hell, let's go to Alaska and nobody

else would want to go. Hell with them, some day I'm

taking the cruise by myself.

A Hep friend told me a lot of cruise lines have

handicapped cabins they don't sell to regular

customers, they are bigger (for the wheelchair) and

reasonably priced. I could put up with a w/c for a

weeks cruise, huh?

I've been to Orcas Island and Fidalgo Island, been

around the Sound in a ferry, LOVED it. Oh you lucky

guy, I'm not sorry for you anymore. Just think of me

living in a beach condo in Laguna Beach, pining away

for big trees and lots of fog.

Michele

And day 136 of treatment slides by in a

> nice daze somewhere

> in the Pacific North West.

>

>

>

>

> Mike

__________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

The Bull Durham! Sounds good to me.

Got a call back from the doc. He's adamant on the 1200mg riba. I'm thinkin

about ordering some compassionate through the old mail order I used to use.

If they'd even give it to me.

Then I was lookin at that cyclosporin blurb I shared. What the heck, I might

be up for a transplant sometime anyway.

Mike, What about joint custody of the kid? I know for a fact that it makes

the other parent crazy. Since you already are no skin off your nose?

Oh, and the single bonding? Yes, absolutely with the Borderline. Its tough.

Man, I'm glad I'm not married to my daughter. Maybe could do it in Arkansas

or WVa. But I wouldn't want to. Was tough enough being Mom.

Sally

One on One With da Marriage

Counselor

>

>

> Well the big day arrived:

>

> Judith the marriage counselor and I had a nice private meeting.

Told

> her about all the lies and stealing and trickery. She sorta knew

> anyway it was no big surprize. I tried to keep it out of the

sessions

> cause the ex goes ballistic but had hinted some and she saw how she

> never did anything we agreed to and tried to trick me with the

lawyers

> fake contracts.

>

> She basically said screw your wife Mike and just take care of

> yourself. Said it was nice I was compasionate but she's history

and I

> would not let her come back if she wanted and I said yup. Maybe if

we

> have therapy together one day I can tell her about my water bringer

> fantasy.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Michele,

Just kidding about my fantasy of shaking up with Sally who lives

there. I'm in a suburban neigborhood with lots of paths and little

lake/ponds and duck sh$% everywhere. Fenced in back yard mandatory

and neigborhood assn to tell you what to do. It's the city of

Virginia Beach about 30 min from the Atlantic ocean front. Nice

neigborhood safe but not real fancy. But the house is for sale and

I'm moving to the low rent ocean front district once it sells.

Gonna have a cheap apt on the beach, sand front yard like you and

chase geriatric beach babes.

Mike

>

> Mike,

>

> Ooh, where are you? Up in the Pacific Northwest is my

> idea of Dream Country - finally enough green for my

> eyes. I LOVE the tepid rain forest, big ferns, nice

> big banana slugs, lots of rain, boot-and-sweater

> weather, ah bliss! I grew up in Sacramento and lived

> in the Napa Valley for 30 years and loved it there,

> but it's still to damn hot and sunny there. And people

> kept asking me to go to Mexico for vacation and I kept

> saying Anywhere hotter and sunnier than here is my

> idea of Living Hell, let's go to Alaska and nobody

> else would want to go. Hell with them, some day I'm

> taking the cruise by myself.

>

> A Hep friend told me a lot of cruise lines have

> handicapped cabins they don't sell to regular

> customers, they are bigger (for the wheelchair) and

> reasonably priced. I could put up with a w/c for a

> weeks cruise, huh?

>

> I've been to Orcas Island and Fidalgo Island, been

> around the Sound in a ferry, LOVED it. Oh you lucky

> guy, I'm not sorry for you anymore. Just think of me

> living in a beach condo in Laguna Beach, pining away

> for big trees and lots of fog.

>

> Michele

>

>

> And day 136 of treatment slides by in a

> > nice daze somewhere

> > in the Pacific North West.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Mike

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________

> DSL – Something to write home about.

> Just $16.99/mo. or less.

> dsl.

>

[Guest guest]

Michele,

I'm just outside Portland OR. And you need never go on the AK cruise alone.

I will go with you! With great delight. I also don't understand folks that

want to go to Mexico for a vacation, or Florida! Too dang hot for me! Send

me to Alaska, or any sub arctic area. Just to enjoy the cool.

Ferrying around the San s was just wonderful. And ending up on Vancouver

Island wasn't bad either. I can't brag on the cuisine in , BC, but

the climate, both culturally and geographically is excellent!

Michele, we'll have to make plans, girl.

Sally <who still thinks skinny dipping in snow melt mountain streams is the

best>

Re: One on One With da Marriage

Counselor

Mike,

Ooh, where are you? Up in the Pacific Northwest is my

idea of Dream Country - finally enough green for my

eyes. I LOVE the tepid rain forest, big ferns, nice

big banana slugs, lots of rain, boot-and-sweater

weather, ah bliss! I grew up in Sacramento and lived

in the Napa Valley for 30 years and loved it there,

but it's still to damn hot and sunny there. And people

kept asking me to go to Mexico for vacation and I kept

saying Anywhere hotter and sunnier than here is my

idea of Living Hell, let's go to Alaska and nobody

else would want to go. Hell with them, some day I'm

taking the cruise by myself.

A Hep friend told me a lot of cruise lines have

handicapped cabins they don't sell to regular

customers, they are bigger (for the wheelchair) and

reasonably priced. I could put up with a w/c for a

weeks cruise, huh?

I've been to Orcas Island and Fidalgo Island, been

around the Sound in a ferry, LOVED it. Oh you lucky

guy, I'm not sorry for you anymore. Just think of me

living in a beach condo in Laguna Beach, pining away

for big trees and lots of fog.

Michele

And day 136 of treatment slides by in a

> nice daze somewhere

> in the Pacific North West.

>

>

>

>

> Mike

__________________________________________

DSL - Something to write home about.

Just $16.99/mo. or less.

dsl.

[Guest guest]

Sally,

Adamant!!!! SOB I'd like to be holding his ankles in my hands out

the 20th floor hotel window and say " Adamant MFr, Did you use the

term Adamant with my friend Sally? " " Think about your poor choice of

words on your way down. " I know I know Macho over reaction... I

just think this stuff now that's not as bad as doing it...

I suppose it's useless to fight. You'd need a rare Doc with brains

and balls to think for himself. He probably called the drug company

rep and said Ohhh what do I do now? Once they rejected the true

weight based dosing in the US like they have in Europe and decided to

go with three sizes fits all routine heavy people get screwed

literally to death.

People at the break points get way over or under dosed and real light

weight folks get big time OD. I think they picked the three sizes

fits all cause it's harder for the stupid Docs to screw up not cause

it's better for the patients.

Regarding the new liver. If you have a 2 log drop at 12 weeks and

complete 11 months of Peg INF and riba the average liver biopsy

improves by 0.7 in stage level score. So if your end stage 4 now you

may go to preliminary 4 in 11 months.

If you SRV at end of treatment the average improvement is a whole

stage. So you could go from stage 4 to stage 3. For some reason,

the Peg is the way best thing for the liver and has the best SVR

odds. After clearence the liver can keep getting better.

Heck if you can get by with this liver now think about having stage 3

and that's a cake walk. You be off the transplant list a year from

now if you SVR. I'd find some way to get enough riba to hit a

minimun dose of 13.8mg/kg and try to work up to 15mg/kg in a month or

two if you can take it. If you need blood meds that's what they are

there for. F#$% that doc. I bet if it was his wife he'd not be so

adamant.

Still got that Adamantine? That ought to bost the odds another 3%-4%.

If your liver wasn't so bad I'd send you my quinine.

Damn Sally, you need more riba. Can you check with ALF I heard of

people donating meds to em? knows everyone with Hep c get that

rascal to find some free riba for you. Heck lot's of people do three

month mail order and must have leftovers at end of TX. If you can't

get it from someone done treatment I have about 60 or 80 extra caps

of 200mg riba.

Yeha I want joint custody and equal time.

Mike

> >

> > Amen what the marriage counselor said!! Remove youself and

> anything you

> > value. I was never that smart. Got stuck with the garbage and the

> bills.

> >

> > What did the counselor say about the kid? Any suggestions there?

> Have you

> > got a divorce atty yet? You NEED one!

> >

> > And that water bearer, any special uniform required?

> >

> > Sally

> >

> > One on One With da Marriage

> Counselor

> >

> >

> > Well the big day arrived:

> >

> > Judith the marriage counselor and I had a nice private meeting.

> Told

> > her about all the lies and stealing and trickery. She sorta knew

> > anyway it was no big surprize. I tried to keep it out of the

> sessions

> > cause the ex goes ballistic but had hinted some and she saw how

she

> > never did anything we agreed to and tried to trick me with the

> lawyers

> > fake contracts.

> >

> > She basically said screw your wife Mike and just take care of

> > yourself. Said it was nice I was compasionate but she's history

> and I

> > would not let her come back if she wanted and I said yup. Maybe

if

> we

> > have therapy together one day I can tell her about my water

bringer

> > fantasy.

> >

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Cool! We almost moved to Tillamook when I was in high

school, I liked it there. And toured the cheese

factory, oh yum. My parents lived in Portland when

Daddy was in his last year of residency and Mom was

starting out as an MD. They liked it a lot.

It'd be fun to plan a Hep cruise, hey? With someone

else's money?

Michele

--- Sally Hines <shines@...> wrote:

> Michele,

>

> I'm just outside Portland OR. And you need never go

> on the AK cruise alone.

> I will go with you! With great delight. I also don't

> understand folks that

> want to go to Mexico for a vacation, or Florida! Too

> dang hot for me! Send

> me to Alaska, or any sub arctic area. Just to enjoy

> the cool.

>

> Ferrying around the San s was just wonderful.

> And ending up on Vancouver

> Island wasn't bad either. I can't brag on the

> cuisine in , BC, but

> the climate, both culturally and geographically is

> excellent!

>

> Michele, we'll have to make plans, girl.

>

> Sally <who still thinks skinny dipping in snow melt

> mountain streams is the

> best>

>

> Re: One on One

> With da Marriage

> Counselor

>

>

> Mike,

>

> Ooh, where are you? Up in the Pacific Northwest is

> my

> idea of Dream Country - finally enough green for my

> eyes. I LOVE the tepid rain forest, big ferns, nice

> big banana slugs, lots of rain, boot-and-sweater

> weather, ah bliss! I grew up in Sacramento and

> lived

> in the Napa Valley for 30 years and loved it there,

> but it's still to damn hot and sunny there. And

> people

> kept asking me to go to Mexico for vacation and I

> kept

> saying Anywhere hotter and sunnier than here is my

> idea of Living Hell, let's go to Alaska and nobody

> else would want to go. Hell with them, some day I'm

> taking the cruise by myself.

>

> A Hep friend told me a lot of cruise lines have

> handicapped cabins they don't sell to regular

> customers, they are bigger (for the wheelchair) and

> reasonably priced. I could put up with a w/c for a

> weeks cruise, huh?

>

> I've been to Orcas Island and Fidalgo Island, been

> around the Sound in a ferry, LOVED it. Oh you lucky

> guy, I'm not sorry for you anymore. Just think of me

> living in a beach condo in Laguna Beach, pining away

> for big trees and lots of fog.

>

> Michele

>

>

> And day 136 of treatment slides by in a

> > nice daze somewhere

> > in the Pacific North West.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Mike

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________

> DSL - Something to write home about.

> Just $16.99/mo. or less.

> dsl.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

Thanks for the note back. The call I got was from the nurse. Not the nurse

that actually sees patients, but the nurse that does the phone work. I'm

quite sure she didn't present my case as I'd presented it, and being as

she's only the messenger I'm not doing any good by going ballistic at her. I

got an appt with the doc in another 3 weeks and I'll ask him then, face to

face, with documentation in hand.

He doesn't go to the drug company for his education, he's a student of the

Portland VA hospital group, which is the same as the OHSU group (Oregon

Health Sciences University). They do a lot of studies there, and will do

cutting edge work, but they won't advise the doc on the street to do

anything more than conservative work. And the hospital where they meet being

up on a hilltop (pill hill) and me being acrophobic, I don't go there. At

least not with me driving.

Sally

One on One With da Marriage

> Counselor

> >

> >

> > Well the big day arrived:

> >

> > Judith the marriage counselor and I had a nice private meeting.

> Told

> > her about all the lies and stealing and trickery. She sorta knew

> > anyway it was no big surprize. I tried to keep it out of the

> sessions

> > cause the ex goes ballistic but had hinted some and she saw how

she

> > never did anything we agreed to and tried to trick me with the

> lawyers

> > fake contracts.

> >

> > She basically said screw your wife Mike and just take care of

> > yourself. Said it was nice I was compasionate but she's history

> and I

> > would not let her come back if she wanted and I said yup. Maybe

if

> we

> > have therapy together one day I can tell her about my water

bringer

> > fantasy.

> >

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sally,

Yeha I know " Bull Durham " but I been all clean and sober so long I

just can't do nothin anymore. Even quit coffee now. Tried BD on the

wifes reccomendation before marriage 4.5 years ago for " stress

relief " and it made me parinoid and gave me the chills.

Yeah like shivers and cold feet and all nervous. I was always scared

the vice squad would bust in to get our 5 gram stash in the freezer

and take us away in chains. I know it's stupid but it did not

relieve my stress.

I'm slow on the uptake but when Judith said that about the single

bonding she was saying. I agree Mr. Mike. The wife is crazy as a

bed bug. Your diagnosis of BPD is quite precise. Don't feel bad

once she had the baby you were on the way out once baby got old

enough to stop that obnoxious screeming and return lot's of love.

Yes, your right the wife is too FU to go to therapy. She is hopeless

in her current condition of denial. You are a mental detective but

willing to help yourself so I will be you therapist if the wife

approves. I'm like a medic Mike I save the ones I can it's called

triage. Let's save you buddy.

Judith is a good counselor so she is responsible for both our

interests. She never comes out and says anything bad about anyone

but sometimes she says stuff and it takes me a day or two to get what

she said.

i thunk i got it,

Mike

> >

> > Amen what the marriage counselor said!! Remove youself and

> anything you

> > value. I was never that smart. Got stuck with the garbage and the

> bills.

> >

> > What did the counselor say about the kid? Any suggestions there?

> Have you

> > got a divorce atty yet? You NEED one!

> >

> > And that water bearer, any special uniform required?

> >

> > Sally

> >

> > One on One With da Marriage

> Counselor

> >

> >

> > Well the big day arrived:

> >

> > Judith the marriage counselor and I had a nice private meeting.

> Told

> > her about all the lies and stealing and trickery. She sorta knew

> > anyway it was no big surprize. I tried to keep it out of the

> sessions

> > cause the ex goes ballistic but had hinted some and she saw how

she

> > never did anything we agreed to and tried to trick me with the

> lawyers

> > fake contracts.

> >

> > She basically said screw your wife Mike and just take care of

> > yourself. Said it was nice I was compasionate but she's history

> and I

> > would not let her come back if she wanted and I said yup. Maybe

if

> we

> > have therapy together one day I can tell her about my water

bringer

> > fantasy.

> >

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm all for using someone else's money.

Sally

Re: One on One

> With da Marriage

> Counselor

>

>

> Mike,

>

> Ooh, where are you? Up in the Pacific Northwest is

> my

> idea of Dream Country - finally enough green for my

> eyes. I LOVE the tepid rain forest, big ferns, nice

> big banana slugs, lots of rain, boot-and-sweater

> weather, ah bliss! I grew up in Sacramento and

> lived

> in the Napa Valley for 30 years and loved it there,

> but it's still to damn hot and sunny there. And

> people

> kept asking me to go to Mexico for vacation and I

> kept

> saying Anywhere hotter and sunnier than here is my

> idea of Living Hell, let's go to Alaska and nobody

> else would want to go. Hell with them, some day I'm

> taking the cruise by myself.

>

> A Hep friend told me a lot of cruise lines have

> handicapped cabins they don't sell to regular

> customers, they are bigger (for the wheelchair) and reasonably priced.

> I could put up with a w/c for a weeks cruise, huh?

>

> I've been to Orcas Island and Fidalgo Island, been

> around the Sound in a ferry, LOVED it. Oh you lucky

> guy, I'm not sorry for you anymore. Just think of me

> living in a beach condo in Laguna Beach, pining away

> for big trees and lots of fog.

>

> Michele

>

>

> And day 136 of treatment slides by in a

> > nice daze somewhere

> > in the Pacific North West.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Mike

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________

> DSL - Something to write home about.

> Just $16.99/mo. or less.

> dsl.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

I've been to Virginia Beach for the day, my sister

lives in Mechanicsville, just north of Richmond and

not too far from Screamersville. We drove over to

Virginia Beach for the day once, it was fall and there

were no tourists and it was cold and windy, just like

Northern California beaches. Hey, at least you have a

yard. Here on the beach we don't have a spoonful of

dirt to garden in, just my clay pots on the deck. God,

I miss trees and vinca ground cover and racoons and

deer. Well, some day my sisters and I will move to

southern Oregon on the Illinois River where there's

even bear tracks along the river and we'll have horses

and pets galore. I have to figure how to get my

retirement cashed in to build my apartment, the way

it's set up I'll lose half in taxes and penalties. Ah

well, our dreams keep us going, huh?

Michele

Yeah, go for the geriatric babes and you run in the

wet sand, dry sand will just slow you down. . .

--- mike <hope_chem_survive@...> wrote:

> Michele,

>

> Just kidding about my fantasy of shaking up with

> Sally who lives

> there. I'm in a suburban neigborhood with lots of

> paths and little

> lake/ponds and duck sh$% everywhere. Fenced in back

> yard mandatory

> and neigborhood assn to tell you what to do. It's

> the city of

> Virginia Beach about 30 min from the Atlantic ocean

> front. Nice

> neigborhood safe but not real fancy. But the house

> is for sale and

> I'm moving to the low rent ocean front district once

> it sells.

>

> Gonna have a cheap apt on the beach, sand front yard

> like you and

> chase geriatric beach babes.

>

>

> Mike

>

>

> >

> > Mike,

> >

> > Ooh, where are you? Up in the Pacific Northwest is

> my

> > idea of Dream Country - finally enough green for

> my

> > eyes. I LOVE the tepid rain forest, big ferns,

> nice

> > big banana slugs, lots of rain, boot-and-sweater

> > weather, ah bliss! I grew up in Sacramento and

> lived

> > in the Napa Valley for 30 years and loved it

> there,

> > but it's still to damn hot and sunny there. And

> people

> > kept asking me to go to Mexico for vacation and I

> kept

> > saying Anywhere hotter and sunnier than here is my

> > idea of Living Hell, let's go to Alaska and nobody

> > else would want to go. Hell with them, some day

> I'm

> > taking the cruise by myself.

> >

> > A Hep friend told me a lot of cruise lines have

> > handicapped cabins they don't sell to regular

> > customers, they are bigger (for the wheelchair)

> and

> > reasonably priced. I could put up with a w/c for a

>

> > weeks cruise, huh?

> >

> > I've been to Orcas Island and Fidalgo Island, been

> > around the Sound in a ferry, LOVED it. Oh you

> lucky

> > guy, I'm not sorry for you anymore. Just think of

> me

> > living in a beach condo in Laguna Beach, pining

> away

> > for big trees and lots of fog.

> >

> > Michele

> >

> >

> > And day 136 of treatment slides by in a

> > > nice daze somewhere

> > > in the Pacific North West.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mike

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________

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> > Just $16.99/mo. or less.

> > dsl.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Michelel,

Sounds like a real sweet dream. Bear tracks down by the river and

all. Sounds like you need a tax accountant to make you a plan.

In view of Sally's incest is best family relationship I confer an

honorary West Virginian Citicenship Award on her.

Im too anemic to run but can walk fast enough to catch the slow

geriatric chicks on a good day if I stay on the wet sand. I go for

the slow and the old chicks now that's all I can catch. Kind of like

an aging lion I go after the the slow and the weak.

Yeha, the boat trip does sound awful good but chilly. Assuming the

ex has not done a new will I know how we can get some travel money

but need an accomplice who is handy with a cleaver.

Mike

> > >

> > > Mike,

> > >

> > > Ooh, where are you? Up in the Pacific Northwest is

> > my

> > > idea of Dream Country - finally enough green for

> > my

> > > eyes. I LOVE the tepid rain forest, big ferns,

> > nice

> > > big banana slugs, lots of rain, boot-and-sweater

> > > weather, ah bliss! I grew up in Sacramento and

> > lived

> > > in the Napa Valley for 30 years and loved it

> > there,

> > > but it's still to damn hot and sunny there. And

> > people

> > > kept asking me to go to Mexico for vacation and I

> > kept

> > > saying Anywhere hotter and sunnier than here is my

> > > idea of Living Hell, let's go to Alaska and nobody

> > > else would want to go. Hell with them, some day

> > I'm

> > > taking the cruise by myself.

> > >

> > > A Hep friend told me a lot of cruise lines have

> > > handicapped cabins they don't sell to regular

> > > customers, they are bigger (for the wheelchair)

> > and

> > > reasonably priced. I could put up with a w/c for a

> >

> > > weeks cruise, huh?

> > >

> > > I've been to Orcas Island and Fidalgo Island, been

> > > around the Sound in a ferry, LOVED it. Oh you

> > lucky

> > > guy, I'm not sorry for you anymore. Just think of

> > me

> > > living in a beach condo in Laguna Beach, pining

> > away

> > > for big trees and lots of fog.

> > >

> > > Michele

> > >

> > >

> > > And day 136 of treatment slides by in a

> > > > nice daze somewhere

> > > > in the Pacific North West.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mike

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________

> > > DSL – Something to write home about.

> > > Just $16.99/mo. or less.

> > > dsl.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________

> DSL – Something to write home about.

> Just $16.99/mo. or less.

> dsl.

>

[Guest guest]

Sally, remember the pegasys is not weight based ,the pegintron is heavy people

do better with pegintron weight based dosing ,look into all this before you

start this journey. But im telling you do the pegintron weight based , pegintron

is stronger on a mcg to mcg basis , my dose of pegintron at 180 lbs was 100 mcgs

and i had another 20 extra that i would inject at weeks end . On pegysas 180

mcgs fits all from 90 lbs to hundreds of lbs. Me and my doc could never find

any logic in that and he does only weight based dosing , pegysas on speicial

requst for average wt people only . He wont od a 90 ,100 lb er on 180 mcgs of

pegasys and his cut off point is 180 lbs over that and you do pegintron or he

wont waste his time with you and i agree with him for what its worth

.

[Guest guest]

Mike im handy with a 10 x weaver 600 yards

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I'm not doing Intron. Just not gonna do it. S-P had their chance at

killing me, and did a pretty fair job of it. They won't get another.

Sally

RE: One on One With da Marriage

Counselor

Sally, remember the pegasys is not weight based ,the pegintron is heavy

people do better with pegintron weight based dosing ,look into all this

before you start this journey. But im telling you do the pegintron weight

based , pegintron is stronger on a mcg to mcg basis , my dose of pegintron

at 180 lbs was 100 mcgs and i had another 20 extra that i would inject at

weeks end . On pegysas 180 mcgs fits all from 90 lbs to hundreds of lbs.

Me and my doc could never find any logic in that and he does only weight

based dosing , pegysas on speicial requst for average wt people only . He

wont od a 90 ,100 lb er on 180 mcgs of pegasys and his cut off point is 180

lbs over that and you do pegintron or he wont waste his time with you and i

agree with him for what its worth

.

[Guest guest]

Sally , no biggie just so your informed ,not being smart, but any logic behind

that decision cause im at a loss, but that is nothing new sometimes i stay lost

for weeks its an old habit of mine

[Guest guest]

,

As I said, Schering-Plough had their shot at killing me with their pizen. I

escaped their hold, but I won't give them another shot. I may not be so

fortunate a second time. I prefer the pizen I don't know. Call me a damn

fool if you want, but don't try to tell me I'm wrong.

I was undetected on the Mexican Riba. When I went to the Schering-Plough

crap the virus came back. And don't try again to tell me that it was the

fault of the Mexican Riba. We did this dance before.

As far as I'm concerned the Schering-Plough product is inferior. Perhaps

that's only for me. I'm certainly a sample of one in many instances. But I

won't take the S-P product again.

Sally

RE: One on One With da Marriage

Counselor

Sally , no biggie just so your informed ,not being smart, but any logic

behind that decision cause im at a loss, but that is nothing new sometimes i

stay lost for weeks its an old habit of mine

[Guest guest]

Sally in our group of 150, I hope this not your case but many people who fail

perintron dont respond to pegsays the 2 are so close that once viral resistance

comes into play the meds are worthless most will get an initial drop then shoot

back up .They got the easy ones but the ones that had mutated to a resistant

form just keep gettin it . But the only way to know is to try if this has

happined you will have your answer fast ya may have go back to infergen i dont

remember your result and circumstances on that but after a 2nd failed tx , tx

can be a heart breaker its gets harder every time you loose ,and from what i see

here after 2nd failed tx things get bad. But well pray thats not how it is and

hope for the best as long as you can hit a viral neg you can win just a matter

of time you wont have a clear date to get off till you clear the virus unless

you just do 48 weeks regardless . Well all we can do is hope for a good response

and work from their i really dought you could

tolarate any more then 1200mgs of riba you would blow your blood work early on

and your doc knows this Im real luckey my blood held 18 months and that was

going from 800 to 1000 to 1200 on good weeks but when i felt bad i de go back to

sometimes 2 ,3 tabs a day for a week i did that 6 times during tx . eric its

2:00 here im gonna hit it i guess its 11 their on the west coast still early

but im draggin at 2:00 here

[Guest guest]

I didn't fuckin fail peg-intron! I didn't take it! Schering-Plough's RIBA

failed ME! And I won't take it. Now, no more of your advice, please.

RE: One on One With da Marriage

Counselor

Sally in our group of 150, I hope this not your case but many people who

fail perintron dont respond to pegsays the 2 are so close that once viral

resistance comes into play the meds are worthless most will get an initial

drop then shoot back up .They got the easy ones but the ones that had

mutated to a resistant form just keep gettin it . But the only way to know

is to try if this has happined you will have your answer fast ya may have go

back to infergen i dont remember your result and circumstances on that but

after a 2nd failed tx , tx can be a heart breaker its gets harder every

time you loose ,and from what i see here after 2nd failed tx things get bad.

But well pray thats not how it is and hope for the best as long as you can

hit a viral neg you can win just a matter of time you wont have a clear date

to get off till you clear the virus unless you just do 48 weeks regardless

.. Well all we can do is hope for a good response and work from their i

really dought you could

tolarate any more then 1200mgs of riba you would blow your blood work early

on and your doc knows this Im real luckey my blood held 18 months and that

was going from 800 to 1000 to 1200 on good weeks but when i felt bad i de go

back to sometimes 2 ,3 tabs a day for a week i did that 6 times during tx .

eric its 2:00 here im gonna hit it i guess its 11 their on the west coast

still early but im draggin at 2:00 here

[Guest guest]

stick that fucking attitude up your ass and eat it bitch if iwas on the west

coast id like you to tell me that to my face bitch i just might fly out their so

you can ,guess who

[Guest guest]

still wating for that reply you know you are gonna fail dont ya i just love to

kick the shit outta shit heads

[Guest guest]

and buy the way sally cant you follow along we were not talking about schearings

riba we were talking about pegintron interferon vs pegysys interferon since you

are a big woman all i said is its better to be dosed by weight with the

pegintron interferon since the dose of that inf is weight based and the pegysys

is not m, too hard to follow do the foolish thing i dont care what riba you take

just so its got a good name

[Guest guest]

And just who do you think makes PegIntron? Schering-Plough.

RE: One on One With da Marriage

Counselor

and buy the way sally cant you follow along we were not talking about

schearings riba we were talking about pegintron interferon vs pegysys

interferon since you are a big woman all i said is its better to be dosed

by weight with the pegintron interferon since the dose of that inf is

weight based and the pegysys is not m, too hard to follow do the foolish

thing i dont care what riba you take just so its got a good name

[Guest guest]

You know Sally its 4 in the morning here but i been thinking you gotta be i

selifish unappresheative person ,i spend my time trying to do what i believe

might help you and give you some options to ponder and you spit in my face just

what kinda person are you , bi polar ,multi personalitys , what strikes me as

funny as we all care about your tx ,but you must have a bone to pick with me .

Im kinda sorry about letting you have it with the big gun but when someone takes

aim at me and fires im gonna let em have it with a bit more fire power and i

dont start the stone throwing but once it starts i will throw back and let the

chips fall where they may ,so if you no longer want to chat with me that is ok

,your call, i de rather not take that route but its your call if you have a bone

to pick with me get it out you wont heart my feelings but if you do at least be

civil about it. You dont have to come at me with the well fuckin! all you have

to say is this is what im gonna do guys and any

extra chatter about it is only chatter let it slide by. We and I are only

worried about you and you should see that .But in the end the decision is yours

and nothing anyone says really matters right.