Re: Hope Springs yada yada

[Guest guest]

Oh no it's not too soon, you might get to see a chick

fight. But be sure and arm your girlfriend, tell her

all your wife's moves and she might win. A woman will

hold onto a man she got scars for!

And scars, especially facial ones, just make her look

more interesting, never mind the ass. Then you can get

huge matching tatoos and break up, hey?

Michele

--- mike <hope_chem_survive@...> wrote:

> Well it finaly happened,

>

> I've got a new girlfriend. This one is actually a

> few months older

> than me but looks so young and sweet. I know it's

> nuts but she's asian

> too. Not like I just hit on asian chicks mostly

> vanilla chicks but she

> just happens to be asian. She lives right up the

> street. Saw her at

> Personals had a bleary pic but a nice

> descriptive profile.

>

> She seems to be the kind of divorced chick with

> already way low

> expectations of men which is just right for me.

> Give me a woman that

> thinks all men are scum and I can live up to her

> expectations and

> perhaps even impress her with my swave moves.

>

> I wonder if she wants a sick, insecure, emotional

> cripple on chemo like

> me as a boy friend. Most chicks do!!! One thing

> about older women they

> aren't too picky so as long as I'm still breathin

> I'm in the running.

>

> From now on no more dating beautiful 25 year old

> chicks with bottoms

> that make a sun set look dull. I think 35 is the

> new lower limit.

> Know it's harsh on the young beautiful chicks that

> pant for me but I

> just can't take the pain.

>

> Sally, Michell is it too soon for me? Should I wait

> for the wife to

> move out next week first or introduce them and hope

> they become

> friends?

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Mike whats that disease been floating around the F its well F it

snafu alpha out read that site Http:www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html

[Guest guest]

Michele,

Thanks. I'll arm the GF with a sawed off shotgun and say shoot the

wife when she opens her mouth to lie. I've got a nice little Beretta

skeet shooter that should cut down just fine. I'll give the wife

my car keys to make it a fair fight. After the new GF fights for me

it will bring us closer. I'll bring a camcorder so I can replay to

relive the romantic moment of the GF's victory.

I know it's too soon but I just want a chick to be nice and smile at

me sometimes and maybe in a few dates have some huggs or even later

when were real close have her ask me when I got a fever If I want a

Tylenol and water. Thats my big sex fantasy a chick that asks me if

I want a glass of water when I have a fever. That's why it never

worked out with the wife I was too demanding.

Mike

>

> > Well it finaly happened,

> >

> > I've got a new girlfriend. This one is actually a

> > few months older

> > than me but looks so young and sweet. I know it's

> > nuts but she's asian

> > too. Not like I just hit on asian chicks mostly

> > vanilla chicks but she

> > just happens to be asian. She lives right up the

> > street. Saw her at

> > Personals had a bleary pic but a nice

> > descriptive profile.

> >

> > She seems to be the kind of divorced chick with

> > already way low

> > expectations of men which is just right for me.

> > Give me a woman that

> > thinks all men are scum and I can live up to her

> > expectations and

> > perhaps even impress her with my swave moves.

> >

> > I wonder if she wants a sick, insecure, emotional

> > cripple on chemo like

> > me as a boy friend. Most chicks do!!! One thing

> > about older women they

> > aren't too picky so as long as I'm still breathin

> > I'm in the running.

> >

> > From now on no more dating beautiful 25 year old

> > chicks with bottoms

> > that make a sun set look dull. I think 35 is the

> > new lower limit.

> > Know it's harsh on the young beautiful chicks that

> > pant for me but I

> > just can't take the pain.

> >

> > Sally, Michell is it too soon for me? Should I wait

> > for the wife to

> > move out next week first or introduce them and hope

> > they become

> > friends?

> >

> > Mike

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

,

I read it and still want to do some more research. Looks interesting.

Mike

>

> Mike whats that disease been floating around the F its well F it

>

>

> snafu alpha out read that site Http:www.all-natural.com/silver-

1.html

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike go to www.utopiasilver.com their are a couple headders their 1 has an

electron mic color pic of virus with alot of good info

[Guest guest]

And I'm such a good looker-after, that's what most of

my social work at the hospital was. I figured the

patients weren't going to tell me what was really

going on with them unless they were as physically

comfortable as they could be, so I did what I called

" fluffing " to start the interview. I'd make sure their

pillow was comfy, they were warm enough (and if they

werent' I'd go down the hall to the old-fashioned

blanket steamer and bring one back, put it next to

their skin and pile the other blankets over them so

they got good and warm). If they couldn't drink water

and were thirsty, I'd give them some lemon swabs or

ice, and make sure they were currents on their pain

meds. If they hadn't heard from their doc I'd call his

office and give him the message and try to pin down a

time he would come. THEN I'd bring up the subject of

how they were going to get home, who was going to be

there to take care of them, did they need

Meals-on-Wheels or Home Health Nursing, that kind of

stuff. Several patients wrote my boss and said I was

the kindest person at that hospital. Just common sense

stuff. And when my sister broke her ankle I gave her

pain meds before she went to the hopsital (I knew they

wouldn't for awhile) and advocated for her, got her

water and a blanket when the staff were busy, and

slept in the room with her the night before surgery.

Everyone needs a Health Agent to make sure all the

right things are done and asked for.

I think you could set your goal a little higher here,

she can at least pretend that she cares what you feel

like. . .> Michele,

I agree with you there, my husband wasn't up for

having a sick wife, he wanted someonet to take care of

him. . . that stuff only was supposed to go one way so

when I broke the agreement, he left the marriage. Ah,

karma will get him good, as it has gotten me for all

my previous evils..

>> I know it's too soon but I just want a chick to be

> nice and smile at

> me sometimes and maybe in a few dates have some

> huggs or even later

> when were real close have her ask me when I got a

> fever If I want a

> Tylenol and water. Thats my big sex fantasy a chick

> that asks me if

> I want a glass of water when I have a fever. That's

> why it never

> worked out with the wife I was too demanding.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > > Well it finaly happened,

> > >

> > > I've got a new girlfriend. This one is actually

> a

> > > few months older

> > > than me but looks so young and sweet. I know

> it's

> > > nuts but she's asian

> > > too. Not like I just hit on asian chicks mostly

> > > vanilla chicks but she

> > > just happens to be asian. She lives right up

> the

> > > street. Saw her at

> > > Personals had a bleary pic but a nice

> > > descriptive profile.

> > >

> > > She seems to be the kind of divorced chick with

> > > already way low

> > > expectations of men which is just right for me.

> > > Give me a woman that

> > > thinks all men are scum and I can live up to her

> > > expectations and

> > > perhaps even impress her with my swave moves.

> > >

> > > I wonder if she wants a sick, insecure,

> emotional

> > > cripple on chemo like

> > > me as a boy friend. Most chicks do!!! One thing

> > > about older women they

> > > aren't too picky so as long as I'm still

> breathin

> > > I'm in the running.

> > >

> > > From now on no more dating beautiful 25 year old

> > > chicks with bottoms

> > > that make a sun set look dull. I think 35 is

> the

> > > new lower limit.

> > > Know it's harsh on the young beautiful chicks

> that

> > > pant for me but I

> > > just can't take the pain.

> > >

> > > Sally, Michell is it too soon for me? Should I

> wait

> > > for the wife to

> > > move out next week first or introduce them and

> hope

> > > they become

> > > friends?

> > >

> > > Mike

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Mike, you know any ugly chicks thats what i need so when she leaves me i will be

happy .

[Guest guest]

,

Now your thinkin except if you ever find a good ugly chick youll cry

when she leaves. Got my eye on a few myself.

Mike

>

> Mike, you know any ugly chicks thats what i need so when she leaves

me i will be happy .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Michele,

You sweet heart. I think I'll stick with the water bringer fantasy.

Who knows maybe it will eventually develop into more.

Mike

> > >

> > > > Well it finaly happened,

> > > >

> > > > I've got a new girlfriend. This one is actually

> > a

> > > > few months older

> > > > than me but looks so young and sweet. I know

> > it's

> > > > nuts but she's asian

> > > > too. Not like I just hit on asian chicks mostly

> > > > vanilla chicks but she

> > > > just happens to be asian. She lives right up

> > the

> > > > street. Saw her at

> > > > Personals had a bleary pic but a nice

> > > > descriptive profile.

> > > >

> > > > She seems to be the kind of divorced chick with

> > > > already way low

> > > > expectations of men which is just right for me.

> > > > Give me a woman that

> > > > thinks all men are scum and I can live up to her

> > > > expectations and

> > > > perhaps even impress her with my swave moves.

> > > >

> > > > I wonder if she wants a sick, insecure,

> > emotional

> > > > cripple on chemo like

> > > > me as a boy friend. Most chicks do!!! One thing

> > > > about older women they

> > > > aren't too picky so as long as I'm still

> > breathin

> > > > I'm in the running.

> > > >

> > > > From now on no more dating beautiful 25 year old

> > > > chicks with bottoms

> > > > that make a sun set look dull. I think 35 is

> > the

> > > > new lower limit.

> > > > Know it's harsh on the young beautiful chicks

> > that

> > > > pant for me but I

> > > > just can't take the pain.

> > > >

> > > > Sally, Michell is it too soon for me? Should I

> > wait

> > > > for the wife to

> > > > move out next week first or introduce them and

> > hope

> > > > they become

> > > > friends?

> > > >

> > > > Mike

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

<looking at the 64 oz insulated jug of ice on the desk> You just want a cup

of water? Heck, I can do that.

Sally

Re: Hope Springs yada yada

Michele,

You sweet heart. I think I'll stick with the water bringer fantasy.

Who knows maybe it will eventually develop into more.

Mike

> > >

> > > > Well it finaly happened,

> > > >

> > > > I've got a new girlfriend. This one is actually

> > a

> > > > few months older

> > > > than me but looks so young and sweet. I know

> > it's

> > > > nuts but she's asian

> > > > too. Not like I just hit on asian chicks mostly

> > > > vanilla chicks but she

> > > > just happens to be asian. She lives right up

> > the

> > > > street. Saw her at

> > > > Personals had a bleary pic but a nice

> > > > descriptive profile.

> > > >

> > > > She seems to be the kind of divorced chick with

> > > > already way low

> > > > expectations of men which is just right for me.

> > > > Give me a woman that

> > > > thinks all men are scum and I can live up to her

> > > > expectations and

> > > > perhaps even impress her with my swave moves.

> > > >

> > > > I wonder if she wants a sick, insecure,

> > emotional

> > > > cripple on chemo like

> > > > me as a boy friend. Most chicks do!!! One thing

> > > > about older women they

> > > > aren't too picky so as long as I'm still

> > breathin

> > > > I'm in the running.

> > > >

> > > > From now on no more dating beautiful 25 year old

> > > > chicks with bottoms

> > > > that make a sun set look dull. I think 35 is

> > the

> > > > new lower limit.

> > > > Know it's harsh on the young beautiful chicks

> > that

> > > > pant for me but I

> > > > just can't take the pain.

> > > >

> > > > Sally, Michell is it too soon for me? Should I

> > wait

> > > > for the wife to

> > > > move out next week first or introduce them and

> > hope

> > > > they become

> > > > friends?

> > > >

> > > > Mike

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Mike you dont need the A & P bags anymore for the ugly ones you just put on that

virtual reality head set stick the ear phones in and your in the game. Now ya

gotta think of a good excuse to be wearing the set did ya find that utopia

silver site the one with the hepc info and the electron mic scann of hcv . You

know they have the molecular weights pinded down on these viruses hiv hcv and

the others they even have the molecular weights of pegintron and pegasys its

expressed in daltons. I guess he was the cat who figgured out how to weigh just

about nothing .I do beleive in your product info it gives you the weight

pegintron carries a tad bit less weight then pegasys but both are still 40/50

svr with 48 weeks 72 brings you up ..I should never have cleared 8 months to neg

but i guess all those things helped the weight loss ,.ph drop ,extra time,

having a plan and back up takeing the riba as stated in info 70% better up take.

After 6 months i was around 160 lbs i would take the

riba 3 x a day 2 in morning 1 at lunch and 2 at dinner but i would take a

couple of tranks maybe a darvactt or ultram or a hydra morphine on a really bad

day then chase it all with a couple beers ., On that stuff it would turn a bad

day into a good one but you know Mike the pegintron is weight based so at 130

still doing the 180 dose i was over spec on both meds by quite a bit as you

pointed out with the riba ,they cant understand why i svred but as usually its

right in front of them ,if they would only open their eyes . Their another guy

on site asking about the silver he wants to build a colloidal silver generator

and make his own not a bad idea then you can know your quality control ,its easy

to through togther .

[Guest guest]

Michele,

What are our options for dealing with/accepting ugly men? Or more important,

dealing with self-important or insensitive men? I know that I'm turned off

by a groveller, but I do want a man that will consider the situation I'm in

when I start this tx.

Which, by the way, is 1/2 in the pharmacy now. My insurance won't pay for

the Riba that packages with the Pegasys, so they are doing some sort of

" generic " I've never heard of. The Pegasys is there. And I have a call in to

my Dr for the increased dosage on the Riba.

The ex-boyfriend I was with the last time around was a bit of a jerk, but at

least didn't threaten to beat me up when I didn't cook or clean the kitchen

for weeks at a time. I've heard of such treatment. I don't know if I'd have

the strength to walk out on treatment like that.

The anxiety is starting to kick in. <dither> At least I know how to get and

keep my glass of water, good for half or more of a day. Or maybe it's the

wind with the storm system coming on here?

Well, off to join my support group of women. I should probably shower first

for this one?

Sally

Re: Hope Springs yada yada

Mike you dont need the A & P bags anymore for the ugly ones you just put on

that virtual reality head set stick the ear phones in and your in the game.

Now ya gotta think of a good excuse to be wearing the set did ya find

that utopia silver site the one with the hepc info and the electron mic

scann of hcv . You know they have the molecular weights pinded down on these

viruses hiv hcv and the others they even have the molecular weights of

pegintron and pegasys its expressed in daltons. I guess he was the cat who

figgured out how to weigh just about nothing .I do beleive in your product

info it gives you the weight pegintron carries a tad bit less weight then

pegasys but both are still 40/50 svr with 48 weeks 72 brings you up ..I

should never have cleared 8 months to neg but i guess all those things

helped the weight loss ,.ph drop ,extra time, having a plan and back up

takeing the riba as stated in info 70% better up take. After 6 months i was

around 160 lbs i would take the

riba 3 x a day 2 in morning 1 at lunch and 2 at dinner but i would take a

couple of tranks maybe a darvactt or ultram or a hydra morphine on a really

bad day then chase it all with a couple beers ., On that stuff it would turn

a bad day into a good one but you know Mike the pegintron is weight based so

at 130 still doing the 180 dose i was over spec on both meds by quite a bit

as you pointed out with the riba ,they cant understand why i svred but as

usually its right in front of them ,if they would only open their eyes .

Their another guy on site asking about the silver he wants to build a

colloidal silver generator and make his own not a bad idea then you can

know your quality control ,its easy to through togther .

[Guest guest]

Sally,

I don't know the answer - my husband left me 6 months

before the diagnosis was made, when we knew I was sick

but not what it was. Then I was with a woman for 4

years. The problem with her was we never had any time

when both of us were off treatment at the same time.

We sure saw eachother through the worst! We're still

close even though I moved away. I usually tell men

right away, practically the first thing, that I have

HepC. And if they're interested I tell them more, but

that tends to weed out the weeds so I don't waste my

time on them. And I'm used to being alone, so it works

out OK.

Fortunately I'm living with my sister who can't kick

me out except to my other sister, and she's too far

away from my doctor. So I have a place to land. I just

kinda feel I won't get into any serious relationship

until I beat the virus, or it would have to be an

extraordinary man and there are not that many around

who would put up with me. You see the problem? 8-)

So good luck, that's half of the secret or maybe all

of it. . . .

Michele

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Michele, i feel for ya ,single woman come to our live group in tears just

diagonsed ,and say how am i gonna explain this to a possible mate , but you know

i met a girl in live group and we dated for a while their are live groups all

over and its a good meating spot. I have a site you can go to to find a live hcv

group in your area .Give me an e and i will dig it up . I think we all go

through that .I had no liver damage after 25 years of raising hell. That was a

big part of the reason i txed the stigma and how do i explain this to a

potential mate .

[Guest guest]

Michele and Sally,

Please accept ugly men who are self-important and insensitive we have

needs too. I suppose breaking down like this shows my Macho Playboy

Immage is just a fasad. Inside I'm just a lil puppy panting for

LOVE. arf arf

Grovelling,

Mike

>

> Michele,

>

> What are our options for dealing with/accepting ugly men? Or more

important,

> dealing with self-important or insensitive men? I know that I'm

turned off

> by a groveller, but I do want a man that will consider the

situation I'm in

> when I start this tx.

>

> Which, by the way, is 1/2 in the pharmacy now. My insurance won't

pay for

> the Riba that packages with the Pegasys, so they are doing some

sort of

> " generic " I've never heard of. The Pegasys is there. And I have a

call in to

> my Dr for the increased dosage on the Riba.

>

> The ex-boyfriend I was with the last time around was a bit of a

jerk, but at

> least didn't threaten to beat me up when I didn't cook or clean the

kitchen

> for weeks at a time. I've heard of such treatment. I don't know if

I'd have

> the strength to walk out on treatment like that.

>

> The anxiety is starting to kick in. <dither> At least I know how to

get and

> keep my glass of water, good for half or more of a day. Or maybe

it's the

> wind with the storm system coming on here?

>

> Well, off to join my support group of women. I should probably

shower first

> for this one?

>

> Sally

>

> Re: Hope Springs yada yada

>

>

> Mike you dont need the A & P bags anymore for the ugly ones you just

put on

> that virtual reality head set stick the ear phones in and your in

the game.

> Now ya gotta think of a good excuse to be wearing the set did ya

find

> that utopia silver site the one with the hepc info and the electron

mic

> scann of hcv . You know they have the molecular weights pinded down

on these

> viruses hiv hcv and the others they even have the molecular weights

of

> pegintron and pegasys its expressed in daltons. I guess he was the

cat who

> figgured out how to weigh just about nothing .I do beleive in your

product

> info it gives you the weight pegintron carries a tad bit less

weight then

> pegasys but both are still 40/50 svr with 48 weeks 72 brings you

up ..I

> should never have cleared 8 months to neg but i guess all those

things

> helped the weight loss ,.ph drop ,extra time, having a plan and

back up

> takeing the riba as stated in info 70% better up take. After 6

months i was

> around 160 lbs i would take the

> riba 3 x a day 2 in morning 1 at lunch and 2 at dinner but i would

take a

> couple of tranks maybe a darvactt or ultram or a hydra morphine on

a really

> bad day then chase it all with a couple beers ., On that stuff it

would turn

> a bad day into a good one but you know Mike the pegintron is weight

based so

> at 130 still doing the 180 dose i was over spec on both meds by

quite a bit

> as you pointed out with the riba ,they cant understand why i svred

but as

> usually its right in front of them ,if they would only open their

eyes .

> Their another guy on site asking about the silver he wants to build

a

> colloidal silver generator and make his own not a bad idea then

you can

> know your quality control ,its easy to through togther .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mike,

See, you're groveling, that makes up for the

self-important and insensitive stuff. Now if we can

get you to wear a T-shirt that says " Girl Toy " we'll

be making some real progress! And get a lawyer if you

haven't yet!

Self-importantly yet sensitively,

Michele

--- mike <hope_chem_survive@...> wrote:

> Michele and Sally,

>

> Please accept ugly men who are self-important and

> insensitive we have

> needs too. I suppose breaking down like this shows

> my Macho Playboy

> Immage is just a fasad. Inside I'm just a lil puppy

> panting for

> LOVE. arf arf

>

> Grovelling,

>

> Mike

>

>

>

> >

> > Michele,

> >

> > What are our options for dealing with/accepting

> ugly men? Or more

> important,

> > dealing with self-important or insensitive men? I

> know that I'm

> turned off

> > by a groveller, but I do want a man that will

> consider the

> situation I'm in

> > when I start this tx.

> >

> > Which, by the way, is 1/2 in the pharmacy now. My

> insurance won't

> pay for

> > the Riba that packages with the Pegasys, so they

> are doing some

> sort of

> > " generic " I've never heard of. The Pegasys is

> there. And I have a

> call in to

> > my Dr for the increased dosage on the Riba.

> >

> > The ex-boyfriend I was with the last time around

> was a bit of a

> jerk, but at

> > least didn't threaten to beat me up when I didn't

> cook or clean the

> kitchen

> > for weeks at a time. I've heard of such treatment.

> I don't know if

> I'd have

> > the strength to walk out on treatment like that.

> >

> > The anxiety is starting to kick in. <dither> At

> least I know how to

> get and

> > keep my glass of water, good for half or more of a

> day. Or maybe

> it's the

> > wind with the storm system coming on here?

> >

> > Well, off to join my support group of women. I

> should probably

> shower first

> > for this one?

> >

> > Sally

> >

> > Re: Hope

> Springs yada yada

> >

> >

> > Mike you dont need the A & P bags anymore for the

> ugly ones you just

> put on

> > that virtual reality head set stick the ear

> phones in and your in

> the game.

> > Now ya gotta think of a good excuse to be wearing

> the set did ya

> find

> > that utopia silver site the one with the hepc info

> and the electron

> mic

> > scann of hcv . You know they have the molecular

> weights pinded down

> on these

> > viruses hiv hcv and the others they even have the

> molecular weights

> of

> > pegintron and pegasys its expressed in daltons. I

> guess he was the

> cat who

> > figgured out how to weigh just about nothing .I do

> beleive in your

> product

> > info it gives you the weight pegintron carries

> a tad bit less

> weight then

> > pegasys but both are still 40/50 svr with 48

> weeks 72 brings you

> up ..I

> > should never have cleared 8 months to neg but i

> guess all those

> things

> > helped the weight loss ,.ph drop ,extra time,

> having a plan and

> back up

> > takeing the riba as stated in info 70% better up

> take. After 6

> months i was

> > around 160 lbs i would take the

> > riba 3 x a day 2 in morning 1 at lunch and 2 at

> dinner but i would

> take a

> > couple of tranks maybe a darvactt or ultram or a

> hydra morphine on

> a really

> > bad day then chase it all with a couple beers .,

> On that stuff it

> would turn

> > a bad day into a good one but you know Mike the

> pegintron is weight

> based so

> > at 130 still doing the 180 dose i was over spec on

> both meds by

> quite a bit

> > as you pointed out with the riba ,they cant

> understand why i svred

> but as

> > usually its right in front of them ,if they would

> only open their

> eyes .

> > Their another guy on site asking about the silver

> he wants to build

> a

> > colloidal silver generator and make his own not a

> bad idea then

> you can

> > know your quality control ,its easy to through

> togther .

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, , when I moved here I called the ALF and

they told me of the nearest HepC support groups. The

nearest one is still 45 minutes driving away, meets

only once a month, and doesn't offer much support. So

I'm thinking of starting one at the hospital where my

sister works, it would pick up all the Beach Cities

around Laguna Beach (Newport Beach, Dana Point, San

Clemente) since the hospital is in Mission Viejo. I

ran a group when I was up in Napa and that was a great

thing for me. A bunch of us went through treatment

together and you're so right - there's nothing like

real-life support. We met twice a month and ended up

having a potluck of munchies and drinks every time,

we'd have BBQ's in the summer and it was a good social

circle too.

I feel if a guy can't handle knowing about it right

away, he's not going to be supportive further on down

the line and I don't want to waste my time. I've met

some great guys in support groups, I'm waiting for one

guy's wife to die so I can marry him - just kinda

kidding! Kinda. . .

Michele

--- eric snyder <1122snyder@...> wrote:

> Michele, i feel for ya ,single woman come to our

> live group in tears just diagonsed ,and say how am i

> gonna explain this to a possible mate , but you know

> i met a girl in live group and we dated for a while

> their are live groups all over and its a good

> meating spot. I have a site you can go to to find a

> live hcv group in your area .Give me an e and i will

> dig it up . I think we all go through that .I had no

> liver damage after 25 years of raising hell. That

> was a big part of the reason i txed the stigma and

> how do i explain this to a potential mate .

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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Michele,

Thanks, glad groveling makes up for it but now I got thinkin. I do

not need to grovel... If you gals reject all us ugly or self-

important or insensitive guys then who's left to date. Not guys

that's for sure. Just work on lowering your expectations enough and

you can find a nice insensitive guy and have a normal unhappy

relationship.

Look at me I had a stellar marriage going but ruined it by having

such high expectations.

Mike

> > >

> > > Michele,

> > >

> > > What are our options for dealing with/accepting

> > ugly men? Or more

> > important,

> > > dealing with self-important or insensitive men? I

> > know that I'm

> > turned off

> > > by a groveller, but I do want a man that will

> > consider the

> > situation I'm in

> > > when I start this tx.

> > >

> > > Which, by the way, is 1/2 in the pharmacy now. My

> > insurance won't

> > pay for

> > > the Riba that packages with the Pegasys, so they

> > are doing some

> > sort of

> > > " generic " I've never heard of. The Pegasys is

> > there. And I have a

> > call in to

> > > my Dr for the increased dosage on the Riba.

> > >

> > > The ex-boyfriend I was with the last time around

> > was a bit of a

> > jerk, but at

> > > least didn't threaten to beat me up when I didn't

> > cook or clean the

> > kitchen

> > > for weeks at a time. I've heard of such treatment.

> > I don't know if

> > I'd have

> > > the strength to walk out on treatment like that.

> > >

> > > The anxiety is starting to kick in. <dither> At

> > least I know how to

> > get and

> > > keep my glass of water, good for half or more of a

> > day. Or maybe

> > it's the

> > > wind with the storm system coming on here?

> > >

> > > Well, off to join my support group of women. I

> > should probably

> > shower first

> > > for this one?

> > >

> > > Sally

> > >

> > > Re: Hope

> > Springs yada yada

> > >

> > >

> > > Mike you dont need the A & P bags anymore for the

> > ugly ones you just

> > put on

> > > that virtual reality head set stick the ear

> > phones in and your in

> > the game.

> > > Now ya gotta think of a good excuse to be wearing

> > the set did ya

> > find

> > > that utopia silver site the one with the hepc info

> > and the electron

> > mic

> > > scann of hcv . You know they have the molecular

> > weights pinded down

> > on these

> > > viruses hiv hcv and the others they even have the

> > molecular weights

> > of

> > > pegintron and pegasys its expressed in daltons. I

> > guess he was the

> > cat who

> > > figgured out how to weigh just about nothing .I do

> > beleive in your

> > product

> > > info it gives you the weight pegintron carries

> > a tad bit less

> > weight then

> > > pegasys but both are still 40/50 svr with 48

> > weeks 72 brings you

> > up ..I

> > > should never have cleared 8 months to neg but i

> > guess all those

> > things

> > > helped the weight loss ,.ph drop ,extra time,

> > having a plan and

> > back up

> > > takeing the riba as stated in info 70% better up

> > take. After 6

> > months i was

> > > around 160 lbs i would take the

> > > riba 3 x a day 2 in morning 1 at lunch and 2 at

> > dinner but i would

> > take a

> > > couple of tranks maybe a darvactt or ultram or a

> > hydra morphine on

> > a really

> > > bad day then chase it all with a couple beers .,

> > On that stuff it

> > would turn

> > > a bad day into a good one but you know Mike the

> > pegintron is weight

> > based so

> > > at 130 still doing the 180 dose i was over spec on

> > both meds by

> > quite a bit

> > > as you pointed out with the riba ,they cant

> > understand why i svred

> > but as

> > > usually its right in front of them ,if they would

> > only open their

> > eyes .

> > > Their another guy on site asking about the silver

> > he wants to build

> > a

> > > colloidal silver generator and make his own not a

> > bad idea then

> > you can

> > > know your quality control ,its easy to through

> > togther .

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Girl Toy! Yeah, that's the ticket!

Michele, you're an inspiration. Stay well girl. I get lonesome here when

you're not posting.

Sally

Re: Hope

> Springs yada yada

> >

> >

> > Mike you dont need the A & P bags anymore for the

> ugly ones you just

> put on

> > that virtual reality head set stick the ear

> phones in and your in

> the game.

> > Now ya gotta think of a good excuse to be wearing

> the set did ya

> find

> > that utopia silver site the one with the hepc info

> and the electron

> mic

> > scann of hcv . You know they have the molecular

> weights pinded down

> on these

> > viruses hiv hcv and the others they even have the

> molecular weights

> of

> > pegintron and pegasys its expressed in daltons. I

> guess he was the

> cat who

> > figgured out how to weigh just about nothing .I do

> beleive in your

> product

> > info it gives you the weight pegintron carries

> a tad bit less

> weight then

> > pegasys but both are still 40/50 svr with 48

> weeks 72 brings you

> up ..I

> > should never have cleared 8 months to neg but i

> guess all those

> things

> > helped the weight loss ,.ph drop ,extra time,

> having a plan and

> back up

> > takeing the riba as stated in info 70% better up

> take. After 6

> months i was

> > around 160 lbs i would take the

> > riba 3 x a day 2 in morning 1 at lunch and 2 at

> dinner but i would

> take a

> > couple of tranks maybe a darvactt or ultram or a

> hydra morphine on

> a really

> > bad day then chase it all with a couple beers .,

> On that stuff it

> would turn

> > a bad day into a good one but you know Mike the

> pegintron is weight

> based so

> > at 130 still doing the 180 dose i was over spec on

> both meds by

> quite a bit

> > as you pointed out with the riba ,they cant

> understand why i svred

> but as

> > usually its right in front of them ,if they would

> only open their

> eyes .

> > Their another guy on site asking about the silver

> he wants to build

> a

> > colloidal silver generator and make his own not a

> bad idea then

> you can

> > know your quality control ,its easy to through

> togther .

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Michele,

If your ex-husband was that unsympathetic before you were diagnosed, you're

probably better off not having him around after the diagnosis. Do you send

him cards every year reminding him to get tested? Just to make things fun?

Ohhhhh.. I'm sooooo bad!

I got a girlfriend wants me to come live with her. But I get crazy being

around her for more than an hour or two. Living there? I'd never survive.

She already has a husband and a wife. Dunno where I'd fit. The eternal

girlfriend?

I've had many a husband and boyfriend leave me. Never over physical illness.

Might well have been over insanity. One never knows about that one, does

one? Two? I mean, I know I'm crazy, and they knew I was crazy, but did they

know I was CRAZY?

I'm glad you have sisters. I have none. I have one brother but we don't

speak. Particularly since he took it upon himself to try to " warn off " my

last 2 husbands, saying I'd kill them. WTF!?? Is that family? Oh, I guess

maybe it is. Maybe he's related to some of Mike's family? He's only half

brother to me. We share the incest/child molestation part of the family. I

think this should tell me something? And then he was all incensed about me

not " forcing " my daughter to marry the father of her children. He just

looked dumbstruck when I informed him that marriage isn't a cure for

pregnancy.

The pharmacy has the pegasys part of my tx in. They are awaiting arrival of

the Riba portion to hand it over to me. And I wasn't planning to start the

shots before the colon-end-oscopy was done. Just seems a bit much to be

enjoying violent diarrhea along with virulent flu symptoms.

Sally

RE: Hope Springs yada yada

Sally,

I don't know the answer - my husband left me 6 months

before the diagnosis was made, when we knew I was sick

but not what it was. Then I was with a woman for 4

years. The problem with her was we never had any time

when both of us were off treatment at the same time.

We sure saw eachother through the worst! We're still

close even though I moved away. I usually tell men

right away, practically the first thing, that I have

HepC. And if they're interested I tell them more, but

that tends to weed out the weeds so I don't waste my

time on them. And I'm used to being alone, so it works

out OK.

Fortunately I'm living with my sister who can't kick

me out except to my other sister, and she's too far

away from my doctor. So I have a place to land. I just

kinda feel I won't get into any serious relationship

until I beat the virus, or it would have to be an

extraordinary man and there are not that many around

who would put up with me. You see the problem? 8-)

So good luck, that's half of the secret or maybe all

of it. . . .

Michele

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Michele, i get your kinda of kidding i might find myself wating for a grupie

girl to complete tx and then who knows ,im gonna make sure she gets this thing

the 1st time if at all possible. You should start a live support group because

even metting once a month gives you a look at the live stock and we all have or

had some of the same problems sounds like your in an excelent area and position

to do a live support . I always chit chat on the phone or on computer with some

of our groupies some are in bad shape and we try to help them in any way

possible even going as far as offering half a liver should it come to that . I

hope you and Sally dont take me and Mike serious im just trying to give him a 30

second laugh and i know he needs to laugh he keeps me laughing. Im not dealing

with all the things he is, tx is bad enough who needs the extras .I hope im done

with the hcv i put all my eggs in 1 basket for 1 super try i thought that was

the best way to handle it ,yes the 18 month tx was

long i got used to it.It was not bad at all just long and boring, i would not

want to do it again but thats why i did the tx in that style all or nothing and

if it didnt work i knew the current meds were useless but i got 33 months svr so

i have no complants even worked 60% of time on tx .

Sinecerly

[Guest guest]

Michele,

I was hoping that one would slide if I ignored it but Sally was all

over it. I will get some cameo plates that say girl toy for my

station wagon to match my shirt.

Mike

> > >

> > > Michele,

> > >

> > > What are our options for dealing with/accepting

> > ugly men? Or more

> > important,

> > > dealing with self-important or insensitive men? I

> > know that I'm

> > turned off

> > > by a groveller, but I do want a man that will

> > consider the

> > situation I'm in

> > > when I start this tx.

> > >

> > > Which, by the way, is 1/2 in the pharmacy now. My

> > insurance won't

> > pay for

> > > the Riba that packages with the Pegasys, so they

> > are doing some

> > sort of

> > > " generic " I've never heard of. The Pegasys is

> > there. And I have a

> > call in to

> > > my Dr for the increased dosage on the Riba.

> > >

> > > The ex-boyfriend I was with the last time around

> > was a bit of a

> > jerk, but at

> > > least didn't threaten to beat me up when I didn't

> > cook or clean the

> > kitchen

> > > for weeks at a time. I've heard of such treatment.

> > I don't know if

> > I'd have

> > > the strength to walk out on treatment like that.

> > >

> > > The anxiety is starting to kick in. <dither> At

> > least I know how to

> > get and

> > > keep my glass of water, good for half or more of a

> > day. Or maybe

> > it's the

> > > wind with the storm system coming on here?

> > >

> > > Well, off to join my support group of women. I

> > should probably

> > shower first

> > > for this one?

> > >

> > > Sally

> > >

> > > Re: Hope

> > Springs yada yada

> > >

> > >

> > > Mike you dont need the A & P bags anymore for the

> > ugly ones you just

> > put on

> > > that virtual reality head set stick the ear

> > phones in and your in

> > the game.

> > > Now ya gotta think of a good excuse to be wearing

> > the set did ya

> > find

> > > that utopia silver site the one with the hepc info

> > and the electron

> > mic

> > > scann of hcv . You know they have the molecular

> > weights pinded down

> > on these

> > > viruses hiv hcv and the others they even have the

> > molecular weights

> > of

> > > pegintron and pegasys its expressed in daltons. I

> > guess he was the

> > cat who

> > > figgured out how to weigh just about nothing .I do

> > beleive in your

> > product

> > > info it gives you the weight pegintron carries

> > a tad bit less

> > weight then

> > > pegasys but both are still 40/50 svr with 48

> > weeks 72 brings you

> > up ..I

> > > should never have cleared 8 months to neg but i

> > guess all those

> > things

> > > helped the weight loss ,.ph drop ,extra time,

> > having a plan and

> > back up

> > > takeing the riba as stated in info 70% better up

> > take. After 6

> > months i was

> > > around 160 lbs i would take the

> > > riba 3 x a day 2 in morning 1 at lunch and 2 at

> > dinner but i would

> > take a

> > > couple of tranks maybe a darvactt or ultram or a

> > hydra morphine on

> > a really

> > > bad day then chase it all with a couple beers .,

> > On that stuff it

> > would turn

> > > a bad day into a good one but you know Mike the

> > pegintron is weight

> > based so

> > > at 130 still doing the 180 dose i was over spec on

> > both meds by

> > quite a bit

> > > as you pointed out with the riba ,they cant

> > understand why i svred

> > but as

> > > usually its right in front of them ,if they would

> > only open their

> > eyes .

> > > Their another guy on site asking about the silver

> > he wants to build

> > a

> > > colloidal silver generator and make his own not a

> > bad idea then

> > you can

> > > know your quality control ,its easy to through

> > togther .

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hey , don't worry about us taking you too

seriously, we take you as seriously as we expect you

to take us, which is not very. Makes sense, huh?

Michele

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You are so right, I'd forgotten that Ann Landers once

said that anyone could get married if they lowered

their standards enough. I'll work on that. . .

Michele

--- mike <hope_chem_survive@...> wrote:

> Michele,

>

> Thanks, glad groveling makes up for it but now I got

> thinkin. I do

> not need to grovel... If you gals reject all us

> ugly or self-

> important or insensitive guys then who's left to

> date. Not guys

> that's for sure. Just work on lowering your

> expectations enough and

> you can find a nice insensitive guy and have a

> normal unhappy

> relationship.

>

> Look at me I had a stellar marriage going but ruined

> it by having

> such high expectations.

>

> Mike

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Michele,

> > > >

> > > > What are our options for dealing

> with/accepting

> > > ugly men? Or more

> > > important,

> > > > dealing with self-important or insensitive

> men? I

> > > know that I'm

> > > turned off

> > > > by a groveller, but I do want a man that will

> > > consider the

> > > situation I'm in

> > > > when I start this tx.

> > > >

> > > > Which, by the way, is 1/2 in the pharmacy now.

> My

> > > insurance won't

> > > pay for

> > > > the Riba that packages with the Pegasys, so

> they

> > > are doing some

> > > sort of

> > > > " generic " I've never heard of. The Pegasys is

> > > there. And I have a

> > > call in to

> > > > my Dr for the increased dosage on the Riba.

> > > >

> > > > The ex-boyfriend I was with the last time

> around

> > > was a bit of a

> > > jerk, but at

> > > > least didn't threaten to beat me up when I

> didn't

> > > cook or clean the

> > > kitchen

> > > > for weeks at a time. I've heard of such

> treatment.

> > > I don't know if

> > > I'd have

> > > > the strength to walk out on treatment like

> that.

> > > >

> > > > The anxiety is starting to kick in. <dither>

> At

> > > least I know how to

> > > get and

> > > > keep my glass of water, good for half or more

> of a

> > > day. Or maybe

> > > it's the

> > > > wind with the storm system coming on here?

> > > >

> > > > Well, off to join my support group of women. I

> > > should probably

> > > shower first

> > > > for this one?

> > > >

> > > > Sally

> > > >

> > > > Re: Hope

> > > Springs yada yada

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mike you dont need the A & P bags anymore for

> the

> > > ugly ones you just

> > > put on

> > > > that virtual reality head set stick the ear

> > > phones in and your in

> > > the game.

> > > > Now ya gotta think of a good excuse to be

> wearing

> > > the set did ya

> > > find

> > > > that utopia silver site the one with the hepc

> info

> > > and the electron

> > > mic

> > > > scann of hcv . You know they have the

> molecular

> > > weights pinded down

> > > on these

> > > > viruses hiv hcv and the others they even have

> the

> > > molecular weights

> > > of

> > > > pegintron and pegasys its expressed in

> daltons. I

> > > guess he was the

> > > cat who

> > > > figgured out how to weigh just about nothing

> .I do

> > > beleive in your

> > > product

> > > > info it gives you the weight pegintron

> carries

> > > a tad bit less

> > > weight then

> > > > pegasys but both are still 40/50 svr with 48

> > > weeks 72 brings you

> > > up ..I

> > > > should never have cleared 8 months to neg but

> i

> > > guess all those

> > > things

> > > > helped the weight loss ,.ph drop ,extra time,

> > > having a plan and

> > > back up

> > > > takeing the riba as stated in info 70% better

> up

> > > take. After 6

> > > months i was

> > > > around 160 lbs i would take the

> > > > riba 3 x a day 2 in morning 1 at lunch and 2

> at

> > > dinner but i would

> > > take a

> > > > couple of tranks maybe a darvactt or ultram or

> a

> > > hydra morphine on

> > > a really

> > > > bad day then chase it all with a couple beers

> .,

> > > On that stuff it

> > > would turn

> > > > a bad day into a good one but you know Mike

> the

>

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Michele,

My sister who is a saint said to her lazy husband one day that he did

not live up to the standards she expected from decent people. He

said " load up yur wagon and go on then or stay and lower yur standars

to suit my bad behavior "

She saw a therapist alnoe and learned to lower her standards.

Mike

> > > > >

> > > > > Michele,

> > > > >

> > > > > What are our options for dealing

> > with/accepting

> > > > ugly men? Or more

> > > > important,

> > > > > dealing with self-important or insensitive

> > men? I

> > > > know that I'm

> > > > turned off

> > > > > by a groveller, but I do want a man that will

> > > > consider the

> > > > situation I'm in

> > > > > when I start this tx.

> > > > >

> > > > > Which, by the way, is 1/2 in the pharmacy now.

> > My

> > > > insurance won't

> > > > pay for

> > > > > the Riba that packages with the Pegasys, so

> > they

> > > > are doing some

> > > > sort of

> > > > > " generic " I've never heard of. The Pegasys is

> > > > there. And I have a

> > > > call in to

> > > > > my Dr for the increased dosage on the Riba.

> > > > >

> > > > > The ex-boyfriend I was with the last time

> > around

> > > > was a bit of a

> > > > jerk, but at

> > > > > least didn't threaten to beat me up when I

> > didn't

> > > > cook or clean the

> > > > kitchen

> > > > > for weeks at a time. I've heard of such

> > treatment.

> > > > I don't know if

> > > > I'd have

> > > > > the strength to walk out on treatment like

> > that.

> > > > >

> > > > > The anxiety is starting to kick in. <dither>

> > At

> > > > least I know how to

> > > > get and

> > > > > keep my glass of water, good for half or more

> > of a

> > > > day. Or maybe

> > > > it's the

> > > > > wind with the storm system coming on here?

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, off to join my support group of women. I

> > > > should probably

> > > > shower first

> > > > > for this one?

> > > > >

> > > > > Sally

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: Hope

> > > > Springs yada yada

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Mike you dont need the A & P bags anymore for

> > the

> > > > ugly ones you just

> > > > put on

> > > > > that virtual reality head set stick the ear

> > > > phones in and your in

> > > > the game.

> > > > > Now ya gotta think of a good excuse to be

> > wearing

> > > > the set did ya

> > > > find

> > > > > that utopia silver site the one with the hepc

> > info

> > > > and the electron

> > > > mic

> > > > > scann of hcv . You know they have the

> > molecular

> > > > weights pinded down

> > > > on these

> > > > > viruses hiv hcv and the others they even have

> > the

> > > > molecular weights

> > > > of

> > > > > pegintron and pegasys its expressed in

> > daltons. I

> > > > guess he was the

> > > > cat who

> > > > > figgured out how to weigh just about nothing

> > .I do

> > > > beleive in your

> > > > product

> > > > > info it gives you the weight pegintron

> > carries

> > > > a tad bit less

> > > > weight then

> > > > > pegasys but both are still 40/50 svr with 48

> > > > weeks 72 brings you

> > > > up ..I

> > > > > should never have cleared 8 months to neg but

> > i

> > > > guess all those

> > > > things

> > > > > helped the weight loss ,.ph drop ,extra time,

> > > > having a plan and

> > > > back up

> > > > > takeing the riba as stated in info 70% better

> > up

> > > > take. After 6

> > > > months i was

> > > > > around 160 lbs i would take the

> > > > > riba 3 x a day 2 in morning 1 at lunch and 2

> > at

> > > > dinner but i would

> > > > take a

> > > > > couple of tranks maybe a darvactt or ultram or

> > a

> > > > hydra morphine on

> > > > a really

> > > > > bad day then chase it all with a couple beers

> > .,

> > > > On that stuff it

> > > > would turn

> > > > > a bad day into a good one but you know Mike

> > the

> >

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