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hi, i don't have any answers i waiting to start my treatment and get my genotype

test, i am really scared with haveing 3 little kids. iam 42 and have no energy

at all whatsover.

kathy b email any time i am here for you.

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I am certainly no expert on any of this, but I chose *not* to go on the protocol

right now. I based this on a paper the NIH released on August 27, 2002. It

gave me the most current information from some of the best doctors in the

nation. You can find this paper at

http://www.NIHConsensusDevelomentProgramConsensusStatements116_ManagementofHepat\

itis

C2002.htm

I am genotype 1B, and I know the genotype 1's don't respond as well as the

genotype 2's and 3's. Since I didn't have any damage present when I had my

biopsy last June, I chose not to risk the side effects of the treatment. I

might have considered taking it if I was genotype 2b, like you, since the

success rate is so much higher. Sheesh, all I had to do was to read the package

insert that Schering said to me. The first thing on the page was a black box

with warnings written in it. It said this drug *will* cause hemolytic anemia.

I had to look up hemolytic anemia to see what it was. It meant the drug will

destroy my red cells faster than my bone marrow can replace it. The solution is

to start giving myself shots of Procrit on top of the other stuff - one more

drug with side effects!

I've been taking the advice of lots of people about things that I can do to feel

better. A few months ago, I felt the same as you. Try some simple things to

get yourself moving. The more sedentary you are, the more sedentary you become.

Get on a good multi-vitamin without iron (Centrum Silver is one), get out and

walk every day, even if it's to the corner and back. Drink lots of water.

Don't fight fatigue, when you first feel it, go with it and lay down. It's

surprising, sometimes laying down for 10 minutes saves me from a 2 hour nap

later on. Try yoga, it's amazing.

Your doctor is wrong about saying that it might just be that you're getting old.

Heck, I'm almost 55, and I feel better than you do most days! Have you looked

for a local support group in your area? I found one in my area (Chicago

suburbs) the other day, and will be starting in October.

Best wishes to you,

Marilyn

On the fence about treatment

I don't post here very often, but I really need some opinions. I've

been approved for a Peg-Intron study here in CA, and I thought I

wanted to proceed until I read ALL the SIDE EFFECTS (some reversable,

some not.) My last biopsy was 3 yrs ago - Stage 1. Still waiting

for an updated viral count. I'm a 2b. I am just worn out and tired

of feeling lousy, tired of worrying about what will happen if I

continue to delay treatment, tired of not having the will or energy

to travel far from home on my own. I'm losing my independence and

it's really starting to bother me!

My new doc (infectious disease guy) indicated he might not recommend

treatment for me, but it was my call. He also said I might just be

getting old (!) and would probably not feel any better after

treatment. I'm not that old (48) and I know how I feel when I have

the occasional good day.

All thoughts/comments welcome. How would you proceed? Is there

something better out there in development - worth waiting for?

Thanks in advance.

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I am sorry but I do not agree with your DR!!!! I am 60, and I refuse to let

this get me down!!! the treatment is better then I was feeling, I will get

over the side affects and I want to stick around as long as I can, my mother

in law is 78 and she was building a porch last month. more energy then I

have , she don't smoke or drink and eats everything but pork and catfish !!

the hep c is what has taken my energy!! and when I started treatments it

took a bunch more for about 2 months, but it is slowly getting better!! You

do what you have to but I think you should get another DR!!

CAROL

GET TESTED FOR HEPATITIS'S C.

8 Million in the US have HCV .

HCV can lead to fibrosis, necrosis.cirrhosis

and liver cancer. get it from transfusions and

blood products, IV drug use (even once) snorting drugs,

body percings, dailysis,Military vaccinations,

mancurisist equipment, unprotected sex, and any blood to blood contact.

On the fence about treatment

> I don't post here very often, but I really need some opinions. I've

> been approved for a Peg-Intron study here in CA, and I thought I

> wanted to proceed until I read ALL the SIDE EFFECTS (some reversable,

> some not.) My last biopsy was 3 yrs ago - Stage 1. Still waiting

> for an updated viral count. I'm a 2b. I am just worn out and tired

> of feeling lousy, tired of worrying about what will happen if I

> continue to delay treatment, tired of not having the will or energy

> to travel far from home on my own. I'm losing my independence and

> it's really starting to bother me!

>

> My new doc (infectious disease guy) indicated he might not recommend

> treatment for me, but it was my call. He also said I might just be

> getting old (!) and would probably not feel any better after

> treatment. I'm not that old (48) and I know how I feel when I have

> the occasional good day.

>

> All thoughts/comments welcome. How would you proceed? Is there

> something better out there in development - worth waiting for?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

>

>

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I have tried going to this site and it says cant be found??

CAROL

GET TESTED FOR HEPATITISIS C.

8 Million in the US have HCV .

HCV can lead to fibrosis, necrosis.cirrhosis

and liver cancer. get it from transfusions and

blood products, IV drug use (even once) snorting drugs,

body percings, dailysis,Military vaccinations,

mancurisist equipment, unprotected sex, and any blood to blood contact.

On the fence about treatment

>

>

> I don't post here very often, but I really need some opinions. I've

> been approved for a Peg-Intron study here in CA, and I thought I

> wanted to proceed until I read ALL the SIDE EFFECTS (some reversable,

> some not.) My last biopsy was 3 yrs ago - Stage 1. Still waiting

> for an updated viral count. I'm a 2b. I am just worn out and tired

> of feeling lousy, tired of worrying about what will happen if I

> continue to delay treatment, tired of not having the will or energy

> to travel far from home on my own. I'm losing my independence and

> it's really starting to bother me!

>

> My new doc (infectious disease guy) indicated he might not recommend

> treatment for me, but it was my call. He also said I might just be

> getting old (!) and would probably not feel any better after

> treatment. I'm not that old (48) and I know how I feel when I have

> the occasional good day.

>

> All thoughts/comments welcome. How would you proceed? Is there

> something better out there in development - worth waiting for?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

>

>

>

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Ooops! Carol, I tried to copy this off my saved documents, didn't really get it

right. Here it is off of my web favorites:

http://consensus.nih.gov/cons/116/116cdc_intro.htm . I think it covers all

bases.

Marilyn

Re: On the fence about treatment

I have tried going to this site and it says cant be found??

CAROL

GET TESTED FOR HEPATITISIS C.

8 Million in the US have HCV .

HCV can lead to fibrosis, necrosis.cirrhosis

and liver cancer. get it from transfusions and

blood products, IV drug use (even once) snorting drugs,

body percings, dailysis,Military vaccinations,

mancurisist equipment, unprotected sex, and any blood to blood contact.

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Hi,

I realize this is just one person's opinion, but I felt I should

share it with you. I am 41, diagnosed 2 years ago in May. In August

2000 I went on the combo treatment (before Peg came out). My viral

load was 250,000, my biopsy was stage 1, grade 0-1. My only risk

factors were IV drug use 19 years prior to diagnosis. The problem

was this: I was tired for the last 10 years with no explanation

other than the doctor telling me what a hectic lifestyle I lead (who

doesn't?!). I got to the point where I couldn't make a 3 hour car

trip to Mom's house without pulling over and taking a 2 hour nap. By

age 39, my joints were aching and I attributed this crappy feeling to

turning 40. When I received my diagnosis, I was almost relieved to

know that I wasn't crazy to feel this way. I used to work on my own

car, do construction work on my house, raise 2 children by myself,

work, and go to college. Due to the decline in my energy and unable

to continue my active lifestyle, I opted to try the treatment. My

genotype is 3A, so I had a good chance of becoming undetectable.

That happened within 3 months, and thank God, I am still undetectable

2 years later. Within 2 weeks of ending the treatment, I had

incredible energy I hadn't had for over 10 years. Treatment is no

picnic, and I attribute my constant sinus problems to side effects of

the treatment, but I will do it again if my viral load becomes

detectable. To me it was worth it.

> I don't post here very often, but I really need some opinions.

I've

> been approved for a Peg-Intron study here in CA, and I thought I

> wanted to proceed until I read ALL the SIDE EFFECTS (some

reversable,

> some not.) My last biopsy was 3 yrs ago - Stage 1. Still waiting

> for an updated viral count. I'm a 2b. I am just worn out and

tired

> of feeling lousy, tired of worrying about what will happen if I

> continue to delay treatment, tired of not having the will or energy

> to travel far from home on my own. I'm losing my independence and

> it's really starting to bother me!

>

> My new doc (infectious disease guy) indicated he might not

recommend

> treatment for me, but it was my call. He also said I might just be

> getting old (!) and would probably not feel any better after

> treatment. I'm not that old (48) and I know how I feel when I have

> the occasional good day.

>

> All thoughts/comments welcome. How would you proceed? Is there

> something better out there in development - worth waiting for?

>

> Thanks in advance.

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No - I don't agree with him either. I wonder if he was just testing

the waters to see how committed I was to trying??? I love the gastro

I had, but I think he felt like was out of his league. He's the one

who sent me on to this infectious diseases guy. I really think I'm

at the point where I'm tired (HA!) of not living what I would

consider a normal life. I do all the right things, take a multi-

vitamin, E, Milk Thistle, but I still can't make it through the day

without wanting to lay down, give up and take a looooong nap to make

all the tired & aches go away. I work full-time so that's just not

possible. Thanks for your input!

> I am sorry but I do not agree with your DR!!!! I am 60, and I

refuse to let

> this get me down!!! the treatment is better then I was feeling, I

will get

> over the side affects and I want to stick around as long as I can,

my mother

> in law is 78 and she was building a porch last month. more energy

then I

> have , she don't smoke or drink and eats everything but pork and

catfish !!

> the hep c is what has taken my energy!! and when I started

treatments it

> took a bunch more for about 2 months, but it is slowly getting

better!! You

> do what you have to but I think you should get another DR!!

> CAROL

> GET TESTED FOR HEPATITIS'S C.

> 8 Million in the US have HCV .

> HCV can lead to fibrosis, necrosis.cirrhosis

> and liver cancer. get it from transfusions and

> blood products, IV drug use (even once) snorting drugs,

> body percings, dailysis,Military vaccinations,

> mancurisist equipment, unprotected sex, and any blood to blood

contact.

> On the fence about treatment

>

>

> > I don't post here very often, but I really need some opinions.

I've

> > been approved for a Peg-Intron study here in CA, and I thought I

> > wanted to proceed until I read ALL the SIDE EFFECTS (some

reversable,

> > some not.) My last biopsy was 3 yrs ago - Stage 1. Still waiting

> > for an updated viral count. I'm a 2b. I am just worn out and

tired

> > of feeling lousy, tired of worrying about what will happen if I

> > continue to delay treatment, tired of not having the will or

energy

> > to travel far from home on my own. I'm losing my independence and

> > it's really starting to bother me!

> >

> > My new doc (infectious disease guy) indicated he might not

recommend

> > treatment for me, but it was my call. He also said I might just

be

> > getting old (!) and would probably not feel any better after

> > treatment. I'm not that old (48) and I know how I feel when I

have

> > the occasional good day.

> >

> > All thoughts/comments welcome. How would you proceed? Is there

> > something better out there in development - worth waiting for?

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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: Thanks for your input. Sounds like you were where I'm at

now - same kind of viral load, biopsy, etc. I hate that I'm losing

my independence. A long car ride is just painful and tiring! I also

felt tire and achy for a long time and doctors would offer no

explanation. I'm really leaning toward going for it. All I have to

do is think about how I feel at the end of day and it gives me the

strength to give it a try! Thanks again,

> > I don't post here very often, but I really need some opinions.

> I've

> > been approved for a Peg-Intron study here in CA, and I thought I

> > wanted to proceed until I read ALL the SIDE EFFECTS (some

> reversable,

> > some not.) My last biopsy was 3 yrs ago - Stage 1. Still

waiting

> > for an updated viral count. I'm a 2b. I am just worn out and

> tired

> > of feeling lousy, tired of worrying about what will happen if I

> > continue to delay treatment, tired of not having the will or

energy

> > to travel far from home on my own. I'm losing my independence

and

> > it's really starting to bother me!

> >

> > My new doc (infectious disease guy) indicated he might not

> recommend

> > treatment for me, but it was my call. He also said I might just

be

> > getting old (!) and would probably not feel any better after

> > treatment. I'm not that old (48) and I know how I feel when I

have

> > the occasional good day.

> >

> > All thoughts/comments welcome. How would you proceed? Is there

> > something better out there in development - worth waiting for?

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

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