electrodes

March 3, 2003

Diane,

If you are talking about Grass electrodes: these are the ones I ordered. You need ones with "female" ends

F-E5GH 48" = electrodes gold safelead

F-E34DG 48" = earclips gold safelead

Rosemary

Re: Re: Electrodes Dear Bill, I went to the site. I own a Brain Master. What Electrodes would I request? Which ear piece? And for Mastoid and/or Fp1, Fpz or Fp2 can I use the adhesive with amale attachment? If yes, which male attachment? Really appreciate you input. Thanks Diane At 12:28 PM 12/6/02 +0000, you wrote: >Try this web address (you are online): > >http://www.grass-telefactor.com/ > >I am pleased with their product offering and prices, and will order >my next electrodes from them. > >Regarding electrode repair, I agree that the best is factory >original, but in an emergency it doesn't hurt to be able to make a >repair (I spent some time in the test lab and we had to be self- >sufficient!). We would use crimp connectors on the extremely >fine "robotic" wire because it does work great as solder wick. ;-) > >Cheers (it's Friday!), >Bill > > > > Hi electrode experts, > > who can give me the company address for the grass electrodes? > > Help greatly appreciated, thanks, > > Uwe > > > > > >

March 4, 2003

Rosemary,

Those are the ones I use as well. Thanks,

Pete

Re: Re: Electrodes

Diane,

If you are talking about Grass electrodes: these are the ones I ordered. You need ones with "female" ends

F-E5GH 48" = electrodes gold safelead

F-E34DG 48" = earclips gold safelead

March 4, 2003

Dear and Rosemary,

Yes I want to use it for both the Q and the brainmaster. Do I

need female ends?

Diane

At 01:01 AM 3/4/2003 -0500, you wrote:

Diane,

If you are talking about Grass

electrodes: these are the ones I ordered. You need ones with

" female " ends

F-E5GH 48 " =

electrodes gold safelead

F-E34DG 48 " = earclips

gold safelead

Rosemary

Re: Re: Electrodes

Dear Bill,

I went to the site. I own a Brain Master. What Electrodes would I

request? Which ear piece?

And for Mastoid and/or Fp1, Fpz or Fp2 can I use the adhesive with a

male

attachment? If yes, which male attachment? Really appreciate you in

put.

Thanks

Diane

At 12:28 PM 12/6/02 +0000, you wrote:

>Try this web address (you are online):

>

>http://www.grass-telefactor.com/

>

>I am pleased with their product offering and prices, and will order

>my next electrodes from them.

>

>Regarding electrode repair, I agree that the best is factory

>original, but in an emergency it doesn't hurt to be able to make a

>repair (I spent some time in the test lab and we had to be self-

>sufficient!). We would use crimp connectors on the extremely

>fine " robotic " wire because it does work great as solder wick. ;-)

>

>Cheers (it's Friday!),

>Bill

>

> > Hi electrode experts,

> > who can give me the company address for the grass electrodes?

> > Help greatly appreciated, thanks,

> > Uwe

> >

March 4, 2003

Diane,

Yes for the QDS they are the same than for brainmaster, you will need 19 electrodes and the earclips. Rosemary knows better the place.

Best

Re: Re: Electrodes

Dear Bill, I went to the site. I own a Brain Master. What Electrodes would I request? Which ear piece? And for Mastoid and/or Fp1, Fpz or Fp2 can I use the adhesive with a male attachment? If yes, which male attachment? Really appreciate you in put. Thanks Diane

At 12:28 PM 12/6/02 +0000, you wrote: >Try this web address (you are online): > >http://www.grass-telefactor.com/ > >I am pleased with their product offering and prices, and will order >my next electrodes from them. > >Regarding electrode repair, I agree that the best is factory >original, but in an emergency it doesn't hurt to be able to make a >repair (I spent some time in the test lab and we had to be self- >sufficient!). We would use crimp connectors on the extremely >fine "robotic" wire because it does work great as solder wick. ;-) > >Cheers (it's Friday!), >Bill > > > > Hi electrode experts, > > who can give me the company address for the grass electrodes? > > Help greatly appreciated, thanks, > > Uwe > > > > > >

March 4, 2003

Any machine you have bought to do EEG in the past couple years will have female-end connectors. The QDS certainly does, and BrainMasters do as well. If the leads you currently use do not have pins on the end (instead have recessed plugs) you are already using female end leads.

Pete

Re: Re: Electrodes

Dear Bill, I went to the site. I own a Brain Master. What Electrodes would I request? Which ear piece? And for Mastoid and/or Fp1, Fpz or Fp2 can I use the adhesive with a male attachment? If yes, which male attachment? Really appreciate you in put. Thanks Diane

At 12:28 PM 12/6/02 +0000, you wrote: >Try this web address (you are online): > >http://www.grass-telefactor.com/ > >I am pleased with their product offering and prices, and will order >my next electrodes from them. > >Regarding electrode repair, I agree that the best is factory >original, but in an emergency it doesn't hurt to be able to make a >repair (I spent some time in the test lab and we had to be self- >sufficient!). We would use crimp connectors on the extremely >fine "robotic" wire because it does work great as solder wick. ;-) > >Cheers (it's Friday!), >Bill > > > > Hi electrode experts, > > who can give me the company address for the grass electrodes? > > Help greatly appreciated, thanks, > > Uwe > > > > > >

April 12, 2003

Hi

Yes,all 22 electrodes will be turned on at hookup unless they cause facial

stimulation or dizziness.At my N22 hookup ,12 electrodes either made my eye or

face to twitch or caused me to literally whirl.this was due to the spongy growth

in my cochlea that is caused by otosclerosis.Our facial nerve is very close to

our cochleas..there is only a thin bone separating the two .The electrode array

for my N22 is not up against the wall of my cochlea so they are very near my

facial nerve..it is thought that my cochlea if filled with holes..like swiss

cheese ..where the bone is the thinnest so those electrodes may be touching my

facial nerve.Those are the electrodes that made me whirl!!

Now with my n24C the self curling electrode array is held snug against the wall

of my cochlea and kept as far away from my facial nerve as possible.Only 4

electrodes were turned off that caused stimulation and again these are the ones

that are where the bone saparating my facial nerve and cochlea is the thinnest.

Just before Christmas my teeth on the side of my n22 began to be painful when my

Implant was on..2 more electrodes were turned off and also my comfort level was

lowered.It was not loud enough as well as the sound was bad.I wasnot going to

give up..I went to another CI clinic ..had an integrity test that showed just

how my electrodes were behaving..my audiologist was then able to map

accordingly.Heturned off 12,,13,,14,,and 15 and then used variable mode to

program the remaining electrodesin a way that the current flows away from the

middle turn where i receive facial stimulation,..this gave me plenty loudness

but the sound was what I described as like a zipper.

Yesterday,he double mapped two of my low pitched electrodes so now i have 19

electrodes and the zipper sound is gone ..i have no facial stimulation.The

sounds of my N22 and N24C are now both sounding good..my N 24C is mellower ..my

n22 a bit gruff so the two blend together very well!!

It is possible that your elecrodes that cause your facial stimulation can be

turned up again..I certainly would ask your audiologist to try.Also the comfort

levels of all the electrodes need not be turned down..just that of the

electrodes that cause the stimulation.If it is only one elctrode that one could

be turned off without compromising your hearing.Hope this helps!!

Love Dora

Electrodes

Yes, I would like someone to explain how the electrodes work do they always

turn all of them on at the beginning?

Last week I was experiencing some facial stimulation and the audiologist

turned down the comfort levels (about 10%) it seems like now it is too low

and I am not hearing as well?

April 12, 2003

The electrodes sit inside your head and wait for the processor to send

them signals. At the beginning of each mapping, your audie will test

your threshold and comfort levels to see how well you can hear the soft

sounds and how much you can tolerate the loud sounds. It's not about

turning them on and off.

As for facial stim, I had that and it made me very nervous. It didn't

hurt or anyting but I didn't like even the idea of it. My audie solved

this by giving me a wider pulse width. This increases the power to the

electrode without having to raise the comfort level so the electricity

doesn't jump to the facial nerve. A wider pulse width uses a lot more

battery power. If the comfort level is not high enough for you to hear

then let your audie know. There is also something called gain that can

be raised without adding to the comfort level.

Isn't it great to have so many options?!

<<Yes, I would like someone to explain how the electrodes work do they

always turn all of them on at the beginning?

Last week I was experiencing some facial stimulation and the audiologist

turned down the comfort levels (about 10%) it seems like now it is too

low and I am not hearing as well? >>

Nuked 9/28/00

Hooked 10/26/00

I SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!

April 12, 2003

Ok, I think I erred on that post where I said " it's not a matter of

turning them on or off " because my maps say " disabled " for the

electrodes that are not being used.

Nuked 9/28/00

Hooked 10/26/00

I SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!

May 23, 2005

Try MVAP they’re pretty good www.mvap.com

electrodes

I remember seeing a link to a company to puchase

electrodes at a good

price. Would someone give that link

again. My computer crashed and I

lost saved email.

Thanks,

Barbara Forsey Ph.D.

August 2, 2005

Merlyn,

I'm sending you the documents with pictures by email.

Tom

Electrodes

Dear Tom,

There is some little elf that must get into my equipment whenever I try to use brainmaster items. I tried to use the Mark Easy "cap", and the electrodes you provided me on Sunday. Could not figure out how to get them to work together with the plastic electrode holders. My poor electrodes flopped out of the plastic holders and it was a very messy adventure. Of course, this was on my head, not a client's .... learned long, long ago.... try on yourself first.

Do you have a picture of what this set up with all working together should look like? or nice little , step by step instructions so that I can get the three items to work together. I thought about cutting the rounded parts of the electrode so it would fit in the plastic holders and may still do that with some tin electrodes I have.

Merlyn

October 10, 2005

You're missing the point. It is not the Tens, it is the electrodes that have a new "prescription requirement" on them.

Don White, RN, DC

October 10, 2005

The Oregon Board of Chiropractic Examiners has no policy or rule that would

prohibit in any way a DC from selling a Tens unit or similar apparatus to a

patient or to direct the patient to any such provider of this equipment. If the

Pharmacy Board directed the question back to OBCE, it must mean that these units

are not within their jurisdiction or they have no stated objection. Neither does

the OBCE. Also, we're not aware of any new law in this regards. I'll copy this

message to the Pharmacy Board and if there's a clarification, I'll let you know.

Dave McTeague, Ex. Dir., OBCE

503-378-5816 ext. 23

>>> <MekaAbou@...> 10/10/05 02:51PM >>>

Hey,

A pharmacist attempted to clarify the electrode prescription issue I wrote

about last week withh the pharmacy board, and they said it was a chiropractic

board issue. Dave McTeague...you out there???

Don White, RN, DC

<<<Hey, get this. I just called BEaverton Pharmacy to make sure they had

some Tens electrodes to sell a patient before I sent them over there. Was told

by the Pharmacist that there has been a law change recently, and they

require a prescription for the electrode pads. He said it has to be from a

" PHysician " . OF course, I said I am a licensed physician in the state of

Oregon, and

they said I had to have a DEA number and be a medical physician before they

would dispense them to a patient. Is that bizarre or what????

VErn......you out there?? Any ideas where to start with this one. Anyone know

the

accuracy of this BS. ??

Don White, RN, DC non DEA # physician>>>

March 13, 2006

Dave,

If it's set up like the old ECG machines used to be, then Black is upper

right, Red lower right, Green upper left and yellow lower left, with the

White lead used for chest leads.

Hope this helps,

Phil

david girga <dgirga@...> wrote:

I have recently acquired a monitor with 5 leads. In order to make sure it

worked right, I volunteered as the guinea for placement. Now, I'm sure most, if

not all, of you have had an EKG done on yourself and know how to read a strip.

Now, when the leads were placed, I had both a T- and P-wave inversion. I don't

have any medical problems, nor axis deviation(even genetically). My question is:

are the colors used for placement (white-upper right, black-upper left,

red-lower left, green- lower right, yellow-MCL/other) international? Or could

the machine be bad? I would love to look at the manual, but it seems to have

gone the way of the dodo. I have worked with various different monitors and

haven't seen any variation of this combination. Thanks in advance.

dave

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March 14, 2006

I suggest you try

Red - upper right

Yellow - upper left

Green - lower left

Black - lower right

White - central chest

It sounds like there are 4 ecg leads and one to measure resp rate.

Greg

david girga <dgirga@...>

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13/03/2006 22:27

Please respond to

cc: Deb Kuehn <dkuehn@...>

Subject: electrodes

I have recently acquired a monitor with 5 leads. In order to make sure

it worked right, I volunteered as the guinea for placement. Now, I'm

sure most, if not all, of you have had an EKG done on yourself and know

how to read a strip. Now, when the leads were placed, I had both a T-

and P-wave inversion. I don't have any medical problems, nor axis

deviation(even genetically). My question is: are the colors used for

placement (white-upper right, black-upper left, red-lower left, green-

lower right, yellow-MCL/other) international? Or could the machine be

bad? I would love to look at the manual, but it seems to have gone the

way of the dodo. I have worked with various different monitors and

haven't seen any variation of this combination. Thanks in advance.

dave

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March 14, 2006

There is a possibly useful chart at this site, about half way down the

page;

http://www.mikecowley.co.uk/leads.htm

LT

electrodes

>

> I have recently acquired a monitor with 5 leads. In order to make

> sure

> it worked right, I volunteered as the guinea for placement. Now,

> I'm

> sure most, if not all, of you have had an EKG done on yourself

> and know

> how to read a strip. Now, when the leads were placed, I had both

> a T-

> and P-wave inversion. I don't have any medical problems, nor

> axis

> deviation(even genetically). My question is: are the colors used

> for

> placement (white-upper right, black-upper left, red-lower left,

> green-

> lower right, yellow-MCL/other) international? Or could the

> machine be

> bad? I would love to look at the manual, but it seems to have

> gone the

> way of the dodo. I have worked with various different monitors

> and

> haven't seen any variation of this combination. Thanks in advance.

> dave

>

> ---------------------------------

>

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>

March 14, 2006

DAVID

I believe there are a couple of colour codings for chest leads arround

Europe/Eastern Europe which differ from the US/UK standards, but cannot

remember what they are. Ask someone from Russia, Germany or France what

they know.

DALE

>From: david girga <dgirga@...>

>Reply-

>

>CC: Deb Kuehn <dkuehn@...>

>Subject: electrodes

>Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:27:23 -0800 (PST)

>

>I have recently acquired a monitor with 5 leads. In order to make sure it

>worked right, I volunteered as the guinea for placement. Now, I'm sure

>most, if not all, of you have had an EKG done on yourself and know how to

>read a strip. Now, when the leads were placed, I had both a T- and P-wave

>inversion. I don't have any medical problems, nor axis deviation(even

>genetically). My question is: are the colors used for placement

>(white-upper right, black-upper left, red-lower left, green- lower right,

>yellow-MCL/other) international? Or could the machine be bad? I would

>love to look at the manual, but it seems to have gone the way of the

>dodo. I have worked with various different monitors and haven't seen any

>variation of this combination. Thanks in advance.

> dave

>

>---------------------------------

>

> Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

>

March 14, 2006

Suggest you try the following:

Red on the right shoulder

Yellow on the left shoulder

Green just above the left iliac crest

Black just above the right iliac crest

White just below the xiphisternum.

Everything should check out ok from that.

Rod

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