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  • 3 months later...

Hey guys this Donna (aka FACES1999). I see where there is some interest in

FACES (facing arthritis w/compasion, encouragement and support). This makes

my heart glow.YIPPEEE. I began FACES in 1998 after attending the AJAO in DC.

I was so empowered and overwhelmed to see how many are affected by arthritis

at a young age. Prior to that day I had lived 27 years with JRA and met no

child, teen or young adult. This saddened me so when I arrived back home from

DC I immediately went into action and have yet to stop or slow down. My life

has changed for the better in a drastic way since I have met others who truly

understand my life. I encourage all of you to reach out and find someone.

Though you think you are alone I can assure you, you are not. Tree and I grew

around the corner from one another, as did 3 other local FACES members!!! It

truly is a small world.

For those interested in recieving more information about FACES and jumping

aboard the mailing list, all you have to do is let tree or I know. You can

email either of us with your mailing information or just say please add me

and we will put you on the email list. Its that simple!!! We have email

newsletters or snailmail and will accomadate whichever you prefer. Our

newsletter is written by folks with arthritis (children included) for folks

with arthritis and seems well recieved by those who get it. FACES would love

to invite you all to join us as we attempt to make the most of life with

arthritis.

keep smilin and hope to hear from EVERYONE!!!

Donna

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Hi all, Becky,

Now I find out!!! My doc gave me Amitriptiline & Prozac both!!!!! The

B------! He could have killed me!! At night my body felt like it was on

fire. I got up & went into te bathroom & noticed my legs, (actually my

whole body) were all splotchy red like I had been burned! Wierd! That is

when i took the Amitriptiline, at night to help me sleep. This happened

2 nights & I quit it (the Prozac.) Also quit the Amitriptiline too, as I

felt so groggy the next day, couldn't hardy function. This is why I

don't take meds, I just don't trust them. I want to be around for a few

more years, I have kids, 4, plus their 4 spouses & 7 gchildren to love !

Your Pharmacist is the better choice for info, NOT YOUR DOC!

God Bless, Patsy

ps My niece went for her dx, & Neuro told her he was 100% sure she has

CMT, & OMO I still think stairs exaserbates your CMT, & if you do not

want to get worse at a younger age stay away from stairs!! Makes sense!

Common sense!

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In a message dated 4/13/02 9:04:39 AM, writes:

<< I have a question while we are talking about the hormones and stuff...has

anyone else had their child's scalp change when going thru puberty or even

monthly? tends to get what I thought was dandruff and was told by

the doctor that it is really oil and more like cradle cap. She sometimes

gets it really really bad. The doctor said it was hormonal changes. I have

finally started charting it and lo, and behold, it is worse around her time

of the month! I was just wondering if shew as the only one.

>>

My 14 year old gets this too. I had never noticed that it corresponded with

her cycles, but now that you mention it, it probably does. We find Nizoral

shampoo does the best job of keeping it to a minimum.

M.

Mom to 16, Holly 14 (DS) and 11

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My daughter is 14 and in the 8th grade. She has been included through middle

school. I must say that we have been blessed with an outstanding group of

teachers and she has had a wonderful experience. In fact, I think that she

has had 3 of the best years of her school career.

The key is planning and attitude. The staff had a " can do " attitude and also

set the tone for other students. Holly is part of the school, and they were

not going to tolerate any kind of unkindness from other students. They

modeled respect, and the students were respectful. Not all of her classes are

in the " regular " classroom, but they set up the Spec. Ed classes like regular

classes (she goes to the spec. ed classes for reading, writing and math-but

it is woven throughout her schedule) she takes PE, language arts, social

studies, band and art in the regular classroom. Language arts, social

studies she has an aide. The other classes she goes on her own.

It can be a great experience :-)

M.

Mom to 16, Holly,14 and 11

In a message dated 4/13/02 9:04:39 AM, writes:

<< I was considering having

them put him in the home school w/ inclusion for the next school year

which will be his 8th grade year. I was wondering if anyone has/had

their child included at jr.high? He will only be at this school for 1

year and I am wondering if socially he will be accepted.My big

concern is isolation for him. >>

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On further examination, I have found answers to

all my questions!!! Sorry to have bothered everybody.

Don't know why I didn't see it. pj

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Wait a minute drug addicts also have a disease so lets not go there PLEASE!

Lets not knock one persons problem for anothers the issue here is the state

or government sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My brother just died from a drug

o.d in Feb ,and that statement just goes right threw me he was only 28 ,and

its a long story if your interested e-mail me privately

dannilynn700231@... Lets just try too stay mad at the government not

innocent people with other diseases or handicaps hell smokers are drug

addicts ,but we do not look at them that way!Thanks just hit a sore spot too

fresh too new!

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I am sorry to hurt your feelings. My father also died from

alcholism. I believe most people have problems that use such things as a

cruch but who knows. Instead of paying an SSI check I think they should

have 24/7 outside care but that is just my opinion. I will not meantion

this again and after this letter the subject will be gone with me. Sorry

to hear about your brother. charlene

-- Re: Digest Number 1057

Wait a minute drug addicts also have a disease so lets not go there PLEASE!

Lets not knock one persons problem for anothers the issue here is the state

or government sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My brother just died from a drug

o.d in Feb ,and that statement just goes right threw me he was only 28 ,and

its a long story if your interested e-mail me privately

dannilynn700231@... Lets just try too stay mad at the government not

innocent people with other diseases or handicaps hell smokers are drug

addicts ,but we do not look at them that way!Thanks just hit a sore spot too

fresh too new!

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Hi.

What do I have to do to receritfy? My certificate is up in November.

Thank you.

wrote:

There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Need Help With A Law?

From: " christianboliver "

2. RE: Re: Need Help With A Law?

From: " Della "

3. Chat Question

From: " murraysmom2000 "

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Message: 1

Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:55:47 -0000

From: " christianboliver "

Subject: Re: Need Help With A Law?

Della and ,

First of all, good to know there is another Texan in the Group!!

Della is right, C2 scripts for MOST drugs in Texas are printed on a

special blue pad that is somewhat like a check...

Meaning that if you hold it up to the light, there is a watermark.---

It is EXTREMELY HARD to 'fake' and IMPOSSIBLE to copy or scan as the

copy machine or scanner will end up giving the 'addict' or whomever

tries to copy the script, a piece of paper that has COPY COPY COPY

all over it.

Also in Texas there will not only be the Doc's DEA # but his DPS #

on the script.

If you happen to be a Tech. in Texas and you receive this kind of

script (from a legitimate pad... perhaps 'misplaced'.. ah hell let's

just come right out and say it... stolen from a doc. by a pt.)

remember that it is Texas Law that the C2 script must be in PRINT...

NOT CURSIVE!

And in Texas, we do still have triple scripts (D.E.A. Forms) for any

natural or synthetic C2 Opiod drug.

As a Tech. in Texas, this problem most likely will not come up

unless you either work in a small town or an extremely busy

pharmacy, so here is Texas State Law as I have been taught so far:

(Major Caveat: I am not a Lawyer or a Pharmacist. If you would like

more clarification about the Laws of the state of Texas, call the

Texas State Board of Pharmacy or log onto their website,

http:www.tsbp.state.tx.us)

If you receive a photocopy of any C2 script, DO NOT FILL IT

YOURSELF. In Texas, this is a moot point because your RPh will deal

with the pt. who is trying to 'get ya', but in other states this

might not be the case.

Check the Pt.'s INSURANCE...

A major sign of 'Doctor Shopping' is rejection of a script 'as a

duplicate from another Doc.' OR a patient that is willing to pay

$15.00 a pill (Retail) for Focalin.

As far as the C2 ADHD meds go, at least in Texas, you will get

a 'good' script on the proper pad that will read something like:

ALL IN PRINT (NO CURSIVE ALLOWED!)

Ritalin 5 Mg.

SIG:

1 (one) tablet PO Q AM

1 (one) tablet PO Q 12:00 PM

1 (one) tablet PO Q 5:00 PM

Dispense:

30 (Thirty) Tablets

I hope this helps someone, and remember that you ALWAYS have the

right to say NO when it comes to filling scripts. If you do not yet

have this kind of relationship with your RPh, you either need to

develop it or move on.

Remember, you could possibly be held liable (financially OR

criminally) if you break the Laws of the state in which you

practice. Ignorance of the Law is NEVER an excuse, so find out

exactly what the LAWS of your state are and follow them!

Good Luck!

Christian B. Oliver RCPhT (Texas)

In , " Della "

wrote:

> ,

>

> Upon reading that you say you have state prescription blanks, then

it's kind

> of a moot point, as the 'copied' prescription did not fit the law

of the

> state the prescription was going to be filled in.

>

> Had a guy from New York bring me a C-II prescription from New

York, which

> apparently allows C-II's to be written on a regular prescription

blank?

> Since, Texas does have the special (individual numbered, each Dr

has their

> own State DPS number which is cross-referenced with the serial #

on the

> prescription), the prescription brought from New York was not a

valid

> prescription in Texas.

>

> I know that won't necessarily satisfy your RPh. :)

>

> So, here is what she's really looking for:

>

> From Department of Law and Public Safety, Division of consumer

Affairs, New

> Jersey Board of Pharmacy, Statues and Regulations

> (http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/pharm/pharmacy.pdf -- caution, it's

127

> pages, as linked from

http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/medical/pharmacy.htm) as

> of September 2004, page 29:

>

> 45:14-14. " Prescription " defined

>

> The term " prescription " as used in R.S.45:14-13, and

R.S.45:14-15 to

> R.S.45:14-17 means an order for drugs or medicines or combinations

of

> mixtures thereof, written or signed by a duly licensed physician,

dentist,

> optometrist, veterinarian, or other medical practitioner, a

certified nurse

> midwife, a nurse practitioner/clinical nurse specialist or a

physician

> assistant, licensed or approved to write prescriptions intended

for the

> treatment or prevention of disease in man or animals, and includes

orders

> for drugs or medicines or combinations or mixtures thereof, on a

New Jersey

> Prescription Blank obtained from a vendor approved by the Division

of

> Consumer Affairs in the Department of Law and Public Safety

pursuant to

> section 6 of P.L.1996, c. 154 (C.45:14-14.6), transmitted to

pharmacists

> through word of mouth, telephone, telegraph or other means of

communication

> by a duly licensed physician, dentist, optometrist, veterinarian,

other

> medical practitioner, a certified nurse midwife, a nurse

> practitioner/clinical nurse specialist or a physician assistant,

licensed or

> approved to write prescriptions intended for the treatment or

prevention of

> disease in man or animals, and such prescriptions received by word

of mouth,

> telephone, telegraph or other means of communication shall be

recorded in

> writing by the pharmacist and the record so made by the pharmacist

shall

> constitute the original prescription to be filed by the pharmacist

as

> provided for in R.S.45:14-15, but no prescription, for any

narcotic drug,

> except as provided in section 15 of P.L.1970, c. 226 (C.24:21-15),

shall be

> given or transmitted to pharmacists, in any other manner, than in

writing

> signed by the physician, dentist, veterinarian, other medical

practitioner,

> certified nurse midwife, nurse practitioner/clinical nurse

specialist or a

> physician assistant, giving or transmitting the same, nor such

shall

> prescription be renewed or refilled. The requirement in this

section that a

> prescription for any narcotic drug be given or transmitted to

pharmacists in

> writing signed by the prescriber, shall not apply to a

prescription for a

> Schedule II drug written for a long-term care facility resident or

hospice

> patient if that prescription is transmitted or prepared in

compliance with

> federal Drug Enforcement Administration regulations 21

> C.F.R.1306.11(d),(e),(f) and (g).

>

> Page 31, 45:14-14.4. Pharmacists prohibited from filling

prescription not

> issued on New Jersey prescription blank

>

> Section repealed by L.2003,c. 280 effective 180 days following

enactment

> [approved January 14, 2004].

>

> a. Beginning 180 days after the effective date of P.L.1996,

c. 154

> (C. 45:14-14.1 et al.), a prescription issued by a licensed

prescriber or

> health care facility shall not be filled by a pharmacist unless the

> prescription is issued on a New Jersey Prescription Blank bearing

the

> prescriber's license number or the unique provider number assigned

to a

> health care facility, as required pursuant to section 2 or 3 of

P.L.1996,

> c.154 (C. 45:14-14.2 or 45:14-14.3).

>

> Notwithstanding the provisions of this subsection to the

contrary, the

> Director of the Division of Consumer Affairs in the Department of

Law and

> Public Safety may temporarily suspend the operative date of this

subsection

> if the director finds that an insufficient number of licensed

prescribers or

> licensed health care facilities have obtained the required

prescription

> blanks by the operative date with the results that persons seeking

to have

> prescriptions filled would be substantially inconvenienced. The

director

> shall notify licensed pharmacists of the new operative date of this

> subsection.

>

> b. Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection a. of this

section

> to the contrary, for the 90 days following the 180-day period or

such other

> operative date as may be determined by the Director of the

Division of

> Consumer Affairs pursuant to subsection a. of this section, a

pharmacist,

> prior to filling a prescription, shall request verification in

writing or

> orally, of the prescription from the prescriber of health care

facility if

> the pharmacist receives a prescription that is not issued on a New

Jersey

> Blank as required by section 2 or 3 of P.L.1996, c. 154 (C. 45:14-

14.2 or

> 45:14-14.3).

>

> 45:14-14.6. Establishment of format for uniform prescription blanks

>

> Sorry, had enough typing. :)

>

> Dunno if this will help..... But I'd think it basically says that

any

> prescription NOT on a New Jersey Prescription Blank isn't a legal

> prescription in New Jersey.

>

> And the PA Doc can't do a thing about it unless he is licensed

also in NJ.

>

> Della

>

> Chat Question

Does anyone use the Chat feature? Does it work?

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have you gotten your re-certification info in the mail

yet? have you done your 20 hours of CE with 1 hour of

it in law yet? if not then get cracking!

a related question: I remember before i was married

looking into getting my certificate changed i need to

fax the PCTB a copy of my marriage certificate. I

don't know where to fax it to as i lost the number and

i can't get into the PCTB site because i have lost the

card they sent me months before they changed their

site around.

--- noreen lally <analytical2003@...> wrote: Hi.

What do I have to do to receritfy? My certificate is

up in November. Thank you.

wrote:

There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Need Help With A Law?

From: " christianboliver "

2. RE: Re: Need Help With A Law?

From: " Della "

3. Chat Question

From: " murraysmom2000 "

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 1

> Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:55:47 -0000

> From: " christianboliver "

> Subject: Re: Need Help With A Law?

>

> Della and ,

>

> First of all, good to know there is another Texan in

> the Group!!

>

> Della is right, C2 scripts for MOST drugs in Texas

> are printed on a

> special blue pad that is somewhat like a check...

>

> Meaning that if you hold it up to the light, there

> is a watermark.---

>

> It is EXTREMELY HARD to 'fake' and IMPOSSIBLE to

> copy or scan as the

> copy machine or scanner will end up giving the

> 'addict' or whomever

> tries to copy the script, a piece of paper that has

> COPY COPY COPY

> all over it.

>

> Also in Texas there will not only be the Doc's DEA #

> but his DPS #

> on the script.

>

> If you happen to be a Tech. in Texas and you receive

> this kind of

> script (from a legitimate pad... perhaps

> 'misplaced'.. ah hell let's

> just come right out and say it... stolen from a doc.

> by a pt.)

> remember that it is Texas Law that the C2 script

> must be in PRINT...

> NOT CURSIVE!

>

> And in Texas, we do still have triple scripts

> (D.E.A. Forms) for any

> natural or synthetic C2 Opiod drug.

>

> As a Tech. in Texas, this problem most likely will

> not come up

> unless you either work in a small town or an

> extremely busy

> pharmacy, so here is Texas State Law as I have been

> taught so far:

>

> (Major Caveat: I am not a Lawyer or a Pharmacist. If

> you would like

> more clarification about the Laws of the state of

> Texas, call the

> Texas State Board of Pharmacy or log onto their

> website,

> http:www.tsbp.state.tx.us)

>

> If you receive a photocopy of any C2 script, DO NOT

> FILL IT

> YOURSELF. In Texas, this is a moot point because

> your RPh will deal

> with the pt. who is trying to 'get ya', but in other

> states this

> might not be the case.

>

> Check the Pt.'s INSURANCE...

>

> A major sign of 'Doctor Shopping' is rejection of a

> script 'as a

> duplicate from another Doc.' OR a patient that is

> willing to pay

> $15.00 a pill (Retail) for Focalin.

>

> As far as the C2 ADHD meds go, at least in Texas,

> you will get

> a 'good' script on the proper pad that will read

> something like:

>

> ALL IN PRINT (NO CURSIVE ALLOWED!)

>

> Ritalin 5 Mg.

>

> SIG:

>

> 1 (one) tablet PO Q AM

> 1 (one) tablet PO Q 12:00 PM

> 1 (one) tablet PO Q 5:00 PM

>

> Dispense:

>

> 30 (Thirty) Tablets

>

> I hope this helps someone, and remember that you

> ALWAYS have the

> right to say NO when it comes to filling scripts. If

> you do not yet

> have this kind of relationship with your RPh, you

> either need to

> develop it or move on.

>

> Remember, you could possibly be held liable

> (financially OR

> criminally) if you break the Laws of the state in

> which you

> practice. Ignorance of the Law is NEVER an excuse,

> so find out

> exactly what the LAWS of your state are and follow

> them!

>

> Good Luck!

>

> Christian B. Oliver RCPhT (Texas)

>

> In , " Della "

> wrote:

> > ,

> >

> > Upon reading that you say you have state

> prescription blanks, then

> it's kind

> > of a moot point, as the 'copied' prescription did

> not fit the law

> of the

> > state the prescription was going to be filled in.

> >

> > Had a guy from New York bring me a C-II

> prescription from New

> York, which

> > apparently allows C-II's to be written on a

> regular prescription

> blank?

> > Since, Texas does have the special (individual

> numbered, each Dr

> has their

> > own State DPS number which is cross-referenced

> with the serial #

> on the

> > prescription), the prescription brought from New

> York was not a

> valid

> > prescription in Texas.

> >

> > I know that won't necessarily satisfy your RPh. :)

> >

> > So, here is what she's really looking for:

> >

> > From Department of Law and Public Safety, Division

> of consumer

> Affairs, New

> > Jersey Board of Pharmacy, Statues and Regulations

> > (http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/pharm/pharmacy.pdf

> -- caution, it's

> 127

> > pages, as linked from

> http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/medical/pharmacy.htm)

> as

> > of September 2004, page 29:

> >

> > 45:14-14. " Prescription " defined

> >

> > The term " prescription " as used in R.S.45:14-13,

> and

> R.S.45:14-15 to

> > R.S.45:14-17 means an order for drugs or medicines

> or combinations

> of

> > mixtures thereof, written or signed by a duly

> licensed physician,

> dentist,

> > optometrist, veterinarian, or other medical

> practitioner, a

> certified nurse

> > midwife, a nurse practitioner/clinical nurse

> specialist or a

> physician

> > assistant, licensed or approved to write

> prescriptions intended

> for the

> > treatment or prevention of disease in man or

> animals, and includes

> orders

> > for drugs or medicines or combinations or mixtures

> thereof, on a

> New Jersey

> > Prescription Blank obtained from a vendor approved

> by the Division

> of

> > Consumer Affairs in the Department of Law and

> Public Safety

> pursuant to

> > section 6 of P.L.1996, c. 154 (C.45:14-14.6),

> transmitted to

> pharmacists

> > through word of mouth, telephone, telegraph or

> other means of

> communication

> > by a duly licensed physician, dentist,

> optometrist, veterinarian,

> other

> > medical practitioner, a certified nurse midwife, a

> nurse

> > practitioner/clinical nurse specialist or a

> physician assistant,

> licensed or

> > approved to write prescriptions intended for the

> treatment or

> prevention of

> > disease in man or animals, and such prescriptions

> received by word

> of mouth,

> > telephone, telegraph or other means of

> communication shall be

> recorded in

> > writing by the pharmacist and the record so made

> by the pharmacist

> shall

> > constitute the original prescription to be filed

> by the pharmacist

> as

> > provided for in R.S.45:14-15, but no prescription,

> for any

> narcotic drug,

> > except as provided in section 15 of P.L.1970, c.

> 226 (C.24:21-15),

> shall be

> > given or transmitted to pharmacists, in any other

> manner, than in

> writing

> > signed by the physician, dentist, veterinarian,

> other medical

> practitioner,

> > certified nurse midwife, nurse

> practitioner/clinical nurse

> specialist or a

> > physician assistant, giving or transmitting the

> same, nor such

> shall

> > prescription be renewed or refilled. The

> requirement in this

> section that a

> > prescription for any narcotic drug be given or

> transmitted to

> pharmacists in

> > writing signed by the prescriber, shall not apply

> to a

> prescription for a

> > Schedule II drug written for a long-term care

> facility resident or

> hospice

> > patient if that prescription is transmitted or

> prepared in

> compliance with

> > federal Drug Enforcement Administration

> regulations 21

> > C.F.R.1306.11(d),(e),(f) and (g).

> >

> > Page 31, 45:14-14.4. Pharmacists prohibited from

> filling

> prescription not

> > issued on New Jersey prescription blank

> >

> > Section repealed by L.2003,c. 280 effective 180

> days following

> enactment

> > [approved January 14, 2004].

> >

> > a. Beginning 180 days after the effective date of

> P.L.1996,

> c. 154

> > (C. 45:14-14.1 et al.), a prescription issued by a

> licensed

> prescriber or

> > health care facility shall not be filled by a

> pharmacist unless the

> > prescription is issued on a New Jersey

> Prescription Blank bearing

> the

> > prescriber's license number or the unique provider

> number assigned

> to a

> > health care facility, as required pursuant to

> section 2 or 3 of

> P.L.1996,

> > c.154 (C. 45:14-14.2 or 45:14-14.3).

> >

> > Notwithstanding the provisions of this subsection

> to the

> contrary, the

> > Director of the Division of Consumer Affairs in

> the Department of

> Law and

> > Public Safety may temporarily suspend the

> operative date of this

> subsection

> > if the director finds that an insufficient number

> of licensed

> prescribers or

> > licensed health care facilities have obtained the

> required

> prescription

> > blanks by the operative date with the results that

> persons seeking

> to have

> > prescriptions filled would be substantially

> inconvenienced. The

> director

> > shall notify licensed pharmacists of the new

> operative date of this

> > subsection.

> >

> > b. Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection a.

> of this

> section

> > to the contrary, for the 90 days following the

> 180-day period or

> such other

> > operative date as may be determined by the

> Director of the

> Division of

> > Consumer Affairs pursuant to subsection a. of this

> section, a

> pharmacist,

> > prior to filling a prescription, shall request

> verification in

> writing or

> > orally, of the prescription from the prescriber of

> health care

> facility if

> > the pharmacist receives a prescription that is not

> issued on a New

> Jersey

> > Blank as required by section 2 or 3 of P.L.1996,

> c. 154 (C. 45:14-

> 14.2 or

> > 45:14-14.3).

> >

> > 45:14-14.6. Establishment of format for uniform

> prescription blanks

> >

> > Sorry, had enough typing. :)

> >

> > Dunno if this will help..... But I'd think it

> basically says that

> any

> > prescription NOT on a New Jersey Prescription

> Blank isn't a legal

> > prescription in New Jersey.

> >

> > And the PA Doc can't do a thing about it unless he

> is licensed

> also in NJ.

> >

> > Della

> >

> > Chat Question

>

> Does anyone use the Chat feature? Does it work?

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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>

>

>

>

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Dear Karin,

Try calling PTCB. Do you need the phone number? They

should be able to 'reconnect' you via telephone or

give you a new code.

Let me know if I can help in any way.

Jeanetta

--- karin h <hockeykatbird_27@...> wrote:

> have you gotten your re-certification info in the

> mail

> yet? have you done your 20 hours of CE with 1 hour

> of

> it in law yet? if not then get cracking!

> a related question: I remember before i was married

> looking into getting my certificate changed i need

> to

> fax the PCTB a copy of my marriage certificate. I

> don't know where to fax it to as i lost the number

> and

> i can't get into the PCTB site because i have lost

> the

> card they sent me months before they changed their

> site around.

> --- noreen lally <analytical2003@...> wrote:

> Hi.

> What do I have to do to receritfy? My certificate

> is

> up in November. Thank you.

> wrote:

> There are 3 messages in this issue.

> Topics in this digest:

> 1. Re: Need Help With A Law?

> From: " christianboliver "

> 2. RE: Re: Need Help With A Law?

> From: " Della "

> 3. Chat Question

> From: " murraysmom2000 "

> >

> >

> >

>

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> >

>

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> >

> > Message: 1

> > Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 06:55:47 -0000

> > From: " christianboliver "

> > Subject: Re: Need Help With A Law?

> >

> > Della and ,

> >

> > First of all, good to know there is another Texan

> in

> > the Group!!

> >

> > Della is right, C2 scripts for MOST drugs in Texas

> > are printed on a

> > special blue pad that is somewhat like a check...

> >

> > Meaning that if you hold it up to the light, there

> > is a watermark.---

> >

> > It is EXTREMELY HARD to 'fake' and IMPOSSIBLE to

> > copy or scan as the

> > copy machine or scanner will end up giving the

> > 'addict' or whomever

> > tries to copy the script, a piece of paper that

> has

> > COPY COPY COPY

> > all over it.

> >

> > Also in Texas there will not only be the Doc's DEA

> #

> > but his DPS #

> > on the script.

> >

> > If you happen to be a Tech. in Texas and you

> receive

> > this kind of

> > script (from a legitimate pad... perhaps

> > 'misplaced'.. ah hell let's

> > just come right out and say it... stolen from a

> doc.

> > by a pt.)

> > remember that it is Texas Law that the C2 script

> > must be in PRINT...

> > NOT CURSIVE!

> >

> > And in Texas, we do still have triple scripts

> > (D.E.A. Forms) for any

> > natural or synthetic C2 Opiod drug.

> >

> > As a Tech. in Texas, this problem most likely will

> > not come up

> > unless you either work in a small town or an

> > extremely busy

> > pharmacy, so here is Texas State Law as I have

> been

> > taught so far:

> >

> > (Major Caveat: I am not a Lawyer or a Pharmacist.

> If

> > you would like

> > more clarification about the Laws of the state of

> > Texas, call the

> > Texas State Board of Pharmacy or log onto their

> > website,

> > http:www.tsbp.state.tx.us)

> >

> > If you receive a photocopy of any C2 script, DO

> NOT

> > FILL IT

> > YOURSELF. In Texas, this is a moot point because

> > your RPh will deal

> > with the pt. who is trying to 'get ya', but in

> other

> > states this

> > might not be the case.

> >

> > Check the Pt.'s INSURANCE...

> >

> > A major sign of 'Doctor Shopping' is rejection of

> a

> > script 'as a

> > duplicate from another Doc.' OR a patient that is

> > willing to pay

> > $15.00 a pill (Retail) for Focalin.

> >

> > As far as the C2 ADHD meds go, at least in Texas,

> > you will get

> > a 'good' script on the proper pad that will read

> > something like:

> >

> > ALL IN PRINT (NO CURSIVE ALLOWED!)

> >

> > Ritalin 5 Mg.

> >

> > SIG:

> >

> > 1 (one) tablet PO Q AM

> > 1 (one) tablet PO Q 12:00 PM

> > 1 (one) tablet PO Q 5:00 PM

> >

> > Dispense:

> >

> > 30 (Thirty) Tablets

> >

> > I hope this helps someone, and remember that you

> > ALWAYS have the

> > right to say NO when it comes to filling scripts.

> If

> > you do not yet

> > have this kind of relationship with your RPh, you

> > either need to

> > develop it or move on.

> >

> > Remember, you could possibly be held liable

> > (financially OR

> > criminally) if you break the Laws of the state in

> > which you

> > practice. Ignorance of the Law is NEVER an excuse,

> > so find out

> > exactly what the LAWS of your state are and follow

> > them!

> >

> > Good Luck!

> >

> > Christian B. Oliver RCPhT (Texas)

> >

> > In ,

> " Della "

> > wrote:

> > > ,

> > >

> > > Upon reading that you say you have state

> > prescription blanks, then

> > it's kind

> > > of a moot point, as the 'copied' prescription

> did

> > not fit the law

> > of the

> > > state the prescription was going to be filled

> in.

> > >

> > > Had a guy from New York bring me a C-II

> > prescription from New

> > York, which

> > > apparently allows C-II's to be written on a

> > regular prescription

> > blank?

> > > Since, Texas does have the special (individual

> > numbered, each Dr

> > has their

> > > own State DPS number which is cross-referenced

> > with the serial #

> > on the

> > > prescription), the prescription brought from New

> > York was not a

> > valid

> > > prescription in Texas.

> > >

> > > I know that won't necessarily satisfy your RPh.

> :)

> > >

> > > So, here is what she's really looking for:

> > >

> > > From Department of Law and Public Safety,

> Division

> > of consumer

>

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