Hi!

[Guest guest]

I agree, Melinda. I looked into the WW Core Plan because it

sounded like a great way to lose weight without counting points. I

decided not to do WW because I don't have a lot to lose and it is

expensive. I do, however, try to follow the philosophy of eating

whole foods.

I have decided to start a daily posting on what I ate and how I

exercised each day. It keeps me in check. It also means- no

more eating after I post (which will probably be late anyway).

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Kiki! This is a HUGE deal for me, you just can't imagine.

Melinda )

Re: Hi!

In a message dated 11/8/2004 2:43:45 PM Mountain Standard Time,

neilmeltx@... writes:

but I'm already down 7 lbs.

Way to go Melinda!!!!!

Love and Blessings,

Kiki

[Guest guest]

You know what, Nina? If I were like you and didn't have too much to lose, I

would do entirely NT, too. That's really what I'm doing. I'm just using the WW

Core principles along with it, since it helps me to select better foods. The

little bit of structure helps me. I have a considerable amount to lose - about

50 lbs, so I'm trucking along with both.

Let's keep each other encouraged, ok?

Melinda )

Re: Hi!

I agree, Melinda. I looked into the WW Core Plan because it

sounded like a great way to lose weight without counting points. I

decided not to do WW because I don't have a lot to lose and it is

expensive. I do, however, try to follow the philosophy of eating

whole foods.

I have decided to start a daily posting on what I ate and how I

exercised each day. It keeps me in check. It also means- no

more eating after I post (which will probably be late anyway).

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[Guest guest]

I second the message from Kiki....Whoo Hoo Melinda. Congratulations on your 7

lb. loss.

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neilmeltx@... writes:

but I'm already down 7 lbs.

Way to go Melinda!!!!!

Love and Blessings,

Kiki

[Guest guest]

Victorious.

At 03:12 PM 1/31/2005, you wrote:

>Hi Bayard

>I think we are learning to get along. I had a touch of flu last month,

>took me over 24 hours to get rid of it, but basically I think I'm

>learning. Thank you

>shoshana

>

>

>

>

>Bayard wrote:

>

>>How you like your immune system now?

>>

>>The Buz

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[Guest guest]

I look forward to meeting you too Betsy!!! Bet your 6YO is adorable!!!

See you in a few weeks in NY.

Lois

[Guest guest]

Of course Jenni! Howdo you do it?? If you don't mind sharing. Love, Connie

[Guest guest]

Hi sweetie,

I'll type it out tomorrow. I fell and fractured a rib this morning and doing

anything right now hurts.

love

Jenni

Re: Hi!

Of course Jenni! Howdo you do it?? If you don't mind sharing. Love, Connie

[Guest guest]

Jenni

So sorry, hope you feel better soon

Blessings R

Re: Hi!

Of course Jenni! Howdo you do it?? If you don't mind sharing. Love, Connie

[Guest guest]

Oh, Jenni, I'm so sorry to hear about your broken rib. Rex, my 10 yo, kicked me

in the ribs in utero when I was 7 months along and it broke my rib. Talk about

sore for awhile! The heating pad at least made me feel better. I'm saying a

prayer right now that you'll heal quickly.

Melinda

Re: Hi!

Of course Jenni! Howdo you do it?? If you don't mind sharing. Love, Connie

[Guest guest]

Oh no Jenni, I am so sorry for you. What were you doing when you fell?

I will pray for a quick recovery for you sweetie!

Love,

[Guest guest]

Melinda,

Wow, he must have been very strong to have actually broken your rib. I could

only imagine what that was like. Because I am sure he kept kicking you and

pushing on that rib. It is amazing that it healed!!

Love,

[Guest guest]

I couldn't believe it either, . I knew when it happened. I was on my way

to a meeting, and detoured to my doctor's office when I started having trouble

breathing without hurting. He then told me what the problem was. I felt so

much better when he dropped!!! He's always been a strong little fella, but the

one of my kids with the typically best disposition! Isn't that funny?

Melinda )

Re: Hi!

Melinda,

Wow, he must have been very strong to have actually broken your rib. I could

only imagine what that was like. Because I am sure he kept kicking you and

pushing on that rib. It is amazing that it healed!!

Love,

[Guest guest]

Hi Molly:

Welcome to the Group. You've definitely come to the right place...

there are many knowledgeable people here. Just keep asking questions

and somebody will answer them.

As far as cardio goes... does your gym have an UBE (Upper-body

Exerciser)? It is basically a stationary bike for your arms. It'll

look something like this:

http://www.beyondmoseying.com/hudson-upper-body-ergometer-ube2000.html

Or some of them have chairs that you sit in like a recumbent bike.

In general, always start with a very small amount of exercise, like

walking for 5 minutes, and see how that goes. If you tolerate it

alright, try 6 minutes next time, then 7 or 8. It may sound silly to

start so slowly, but you need to allow your body time to make itself

stronger. It may be frustrating to hold yourself back from doing

more, but you will be glad you did.

Good luck,

Doug

>

> I wish I'd found you guys months ago! My knee pain started when I

> lost 50 pounds last year. With more physical activity and long

> periods of sitting or driving, the pain continued to worsen, and

> finally progressed fairly rapidly to the point that I was in pain

all

> of the time. I went to a orthopeadic surgeon who told me I

was " still

> too fat " (yep, that's a quote) and that the pain was normal for an

> overweight 26 yr. old (40 lbs. overweight at that time). I lost

> another 30 lbs. and the pain was still worse, I was taking time off

of

> work, my weight loss was stalled since I couldn't exercise without a

> lot of pain, so I finally decided to get another opinion. I was

sent

> to P.T. for 12 weeks, and when that didn't work, I went to KU Med

and

> the surgeon said my kneecaps were " frozen in place " , and a L.R. was

> necessary on both knees. I did my right knee in Sept. this year and

> my left in November. The surgeon removed scar tissue from under

both

> patellae which was also wrapped around them and pulling them out of

> alignment. He also found a little cartilage damage on the left knee

> and I was officially diagnosed with CM, and am now doing my own

> research on it.

>

> I was progressing well after surgery, but the pain is worse in my

> right knee now. I was told I was overcompensating post left-knee

> surgery, and that I needed to strength train some more. I work out

5

> days a week, 2 days of weights, 2 of cardio, 1 of both. My P.T. had

> me doing the leg extension machine with full arc, and I was just

told

> by the doctor that I shouldn't be going over 30-40 degrees! Too bad

> they didn't communicate that before I did 3 months with full arc!!!

> He thought that it would take 12-18 months of rehab (on my own) at

4-5

> times a week to " control not cure " the pain. I was pretty

frustrated

> and am glad I found this group!

>

> I have good pain control with ice, and am in no pain as long as I'm

on

> the elliptical or recumbent bike or walking/standing, but as soon

as I

> sit for more than 30 seconds, it's back to the pain again; forget

> about sleep. I'm on 800 mg. ibuprofen TID, and am trying not to

take

> the Darvocet because it makes me sleepy.

>

> My question is: do any of you have any suggestions for cardio? I

live

> in a very small town, and don't have pool access, but my gym has

> elliptical, bikes, and treadmill. I did the treadmill yesterday and

> noticed that I hurt more that night than usual, but perhaps going

from

> 2 times a week of P.T. to 5 times on my own was just too ambitious?

> I'm so close to my weight-loss goal that it's hard to hold back on

the

> activity. I always laughed when people claimed to be

> exercise-junkies, but it is pretty addictive!

>

> Whew! Thanks for letting me vent; I feel better already!

>

> ~molly

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Doug! I started slow at P.T., and am up to 20 minutes total of

comfortable cardio. Usually I start with 5 min. on a recumbent bike,

then 5 min. on the elliptical followed by another 10 on the recumbent,

but I'm trying to do those last 10 on the treadmill to change things

up a bit. It IS frustrating to start so slow, but I figure 20 min. of

" light " cardio (not light to me!!) is better than sitting on the

couch! My gym is pretty limited, just the bikes, treadmills,

ellipticals and a rower, but it is the only gym in town, and I'm

awfully grateful for it; otherwise I'd have to drive an hour to the

nearest gym, which would probably murder my motivation!

I'm so thankful to find such nice and knowledgable folks!

[Guest guest]

Mike,

Gee, is this what I haave to look forward to? Being a Pagan I have sworn to

not send harm any groups way. lol By the way, what is tx

SAM

mike <hope_chem_survive@...> wrote:

,

Thanks, Doing Excellent....

Every day of TX better than the day before. Am liking the TX so well

now I think I will just stay on it permenently as a health tonic.

Can't decide which I like the best Riba or INF. They both have a

charm all their own but when combined are somehow even more

delightful in combination.

Which was your Fav?

Am thinking of suggestion to Rumsfield we issue riba to the troops as

an aggression booster. It will turn those flabbly weak little high

school boys into lean-mean evil nuts just like it did to me these

last few months.

That's what we need are more drug crazed psycopaths over there all

jacked up on " irritability/homocidal " riba with no urge for food or

sex but just loaded with rage and the spirit of the bayonet and a

compulsion to kill, kill, kill.

Give me a church group properly dosed on riba and I'll kick butt

going head to head with any unit you name not on chemo. Dose em up a

bit till they start to foam a little a the mouth and they are ready

to go...

I swear my antiviral tea I make is getting me high. Feel giddy as

can be since I started knocking back the tea today. No caffine, no

sugar just olive leaf, reishi mushroom, dandilion root, and licorice

root and raw grated giger. I know the reishi mushrooms are like

natural speed but think there may be some other things as well too.

The stuff is alkaline as can be and maybe that's part of it too.

Between that and the new cave man diet my ph is supposed to normalize

if it was in fact already too alkaline.

Don't know how to describe it except a mild buzz and general feeling

of well being. Maybe the ginger wacks me out too, don't know but

it's my only buzz at all now since I even gave up the coffee.

Found some med research on disinfectans which explained how silver

kills bacteria/virus/fungus. May try some but it is so expensive and

everything I do now is costing a fortune.

Mike

>

> Mike , How goes the good ol tx eric

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Very realistic desctiption, guy!!!

A laugh a day keeps the blues away.

Sharon

Re: HI!

Mike, you will know how it is , the riba is like haveing a full termite

infestation of the mind ,leaves alot of nice looking stuff but hollow ,just a

little push here or their and the whole mess caves in , why hell im still

fumagating with hydrogen cyanide gas ,after the termites are gone i can start to

rebuild but until its a bad seen ,snafu ,

[Guest guest]

I only did it for 6 months, don't know if I would have survived 3 times that!!

The brain would indeed be fogged, stirred, shaken, etc. lol

A laugh a day keeps the blues away.

Sharon

Re: HI!

Sharon after 18 months on inf /riba it does leave you like the Bond

charactor likes his drinks ,well a little differnt shaken and stired

[Guest guest]

At the time, but I relapsed 4 months later. boo hoo I'm waiting for the

protease inhibitors to be released now.

I tried a second time, but my hubby wasn't ready for it, so dropped out ... also

had deep depression.

A laugh a day keeps the blues away.

Sharon

Re: HI!

Sharon did it work

[Guest guest]

That was the first check. Cheap insurance. lol You are lucky. When I go into

it again, it will be with a great deal more knowledge than the first time. I

had to divoprce my husband in order to qualify for the meds through Scherring

Plough!! We got remarried at the tiny license bureau in our town, with people

waiting for car tabs cheering behind us.

A laugh a day keeps the blues away.

Sharon

Re: HI!

Sharon , Thats pretty rare, relaps at month 4 were you checked [pcr] before

month 4 if so what month or was that first pcr after tx , i checked mine week 2

,1 month 7 weeks 3 months 4,5,6 months in case i would convert positive i could

restart tx without loseing ground and having to start from scratch , luckey for

me i worked in a viral research lab and knew how to set up a tx plan to get max

benefit

[Guest guest]

Hi Mike, thanks for the welcome.

A laugh a day keeps the blues away.

Sharon

Re: HI!

>

>

> Sharon , Thats pretty rare, relaps at month 4 were you checked

[pcr] before month 4 if so what month or was that first pcr after

tx , i checked mine week 2 ,1 month 7 weeks 3 months 4,5,6 months in

case i would convert positive i could restart tx without loseing

ground and having to start from scratch , luckey for me i worked in a

viral research lab and knew how to set up a tx plan to get max

benefit

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Boy, that reminds me of being on treatment and some of

the tricks they tried on me. My insurance wouldn't let

me re-order until the last week of the shots, so I was

always anxious. However, the pharmacy I used were

WONDERFUL and a couple of times called me at home and

stayed open after closing hours to make sure I got my

meds.

Once when I went to take care of my mother in Idaho

(her last illness with cancer, she was on hospice, no

stress there!) I forgot my needles, so had to go buy a

box of 30 so I could use 2. And traveling with them

was too fun, using the little cooler. this was the

PegIntron that you had to take 1 ml of sterile water

and shoot it into the little bottle of powedered

interferon, swish it GENTLY back and forth or it would

really cause a reaction, and break out another needle

to give the shot with. I always saved my bottles with

the tiny amount in the bottom, just in case my meds

didn't come in time, and I had a whole vegetable bin

in my fridge full of them. But they did come in handy

once when the meds were late. I had to suction about

15 bottles to get 1 ml of interferon, and I don't know

if it was any good, some of it was months old, so I

took the regular shot when I finally got it 4 days

later. Just a few of the adventures of the

mushy-minded on delerious drugs. We should write a

book, huh?

Michele

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

All I can say is wow, man.....

Yeah, there are a lot of stories out there in the naked city. lol It would

someday make a great book. Mine never came til the last week too. Never got

here late, tho. I took it every week, with the mixing and GENTLE swishing. lol

I still have some of the sharps in the fridge, keep forgetting to turn them into

the health dept. Can't take em to any one else, don't ya know.

A laugh a day keeps the blues away.

Sharon

RE: HI!

Boy, that reminds me of being on treatment and some of

the tricks they tried on me. My insurance wouldn't let

me re-order until the last week of the shots, so I was

always anxious. However, the pharmacy I used were

WONDERFUL and a couple of times called me at home and

stayed open after closing hours to make sure I got my

meds.

Once when I went to take care of my mother in Idaho

(her last illness with cancer, she was on hospice, no

stress there!) I forgot my needles, so had to go buy a

box of 30 so I could use 2. And traveling with them

was too fun, using the little cooler. this was the

PegIntron that you had to take 1 ml of sterile water

and shoot it into the little bottle of powedered

interferon, swish it GENTLY back and forth or it would

really cause a reaction, and break out another needle

to give the shot with. I always saved my bottles with

the tiny amount in the bottom, just in case my meds

didn't come in time, and I had a whole vegetable bin

in my fridge full of them. But they did come in handy

once when the meds were late. I had to suction about

15 bottles to get 1 ml of interferon, and I don't know

if it was any good, some of it was months old, so I

took the regular shot when I finally got it 4 days

later. Just a few of the adventures of the

mushy-minded on delerious drugs. We should write a

book, huh?

Michele

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

They should have a Sharps container at your MD's

office. Or pharmacies sometimes have them, and

hospitals always do. That's where the needles need to

go. . .

Michele

--- SHARON CROSBY <csharonxoxo@...> wrote:

> All I can say is wow, man.....

>

> Yeah, there are a lot of stories out there in the

> naked city. lol It would someday make a great

> book. Mine never came til the last week too. Never

> got here late, tho. I took it every week, with the

> mixing and GENTLE swishing. lol I still have some

> of the sharps in the fridge, keep forgetting to turn

> them into the health dept. Can't take em to any one

> else, don't ya know.

> A laugh a day keeps the blues away.

>

> Sharon

> RE: HI!

>

>

> Boy, that reminds me of being on treatment and

> some of

> the tricks they tried on me. My insurance wouldn't

> let

> me re-order until the last week of the shots, so I

> was

> always anxious. However, the pharmacy I used were

> WONDERFUL and a couple of times called me at home

> and

> stayed open after closing hours to make sure I got

> my

> meds.

>

> Once when I went to take care of my mother in

> Idaho

> (her last illness with cancer, she was on hospice,

> no

> stress there!) I forgot my needles, so had to go

> buy a

> box of 30 so I could use 2. And traveling with

> them

> was too fun, using the little cooler. this was the

> PegIntron that you had to take 1 ml of sterile

> water

> and shoot it into the little bottle of powedered

> interferon, swish it GENTLY back and forth or it

> would

> really cause a reaction, and break out another

> needle

> to give the shot with. I always saved my bottles

> with

> the tiny amount in the bottom, just in case my

> meds

> didn't come in time, and I had a whole vegetable

> bin

> in my fridge full of them. But they did come in

> handy

> once when the meds were late. I had to suction

> about

> 15 bottles to get 1 ml of interferon, and I don't

> know

> if it was any good, some of it was months old, so

> I

> took the regular shot when I finally got it 4 days

> later. Just a few of the adventures of the

> mushy-minded on delerious drugs. We should write a

> book, huh?

>

> Michele

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Not here, the only place I can take them is the Health department. It's in

Bremerton, but I kon't know where. I need to find out, I guess.

A laugh a day keeps the blues away.

Sharon

RE: HI!

>

>

> Boy, that reminds me of being on treatment and

> some of

> the tricks they tried on me. My insurance wouldn't

> let

> me re-order until the last week of the shots, so I

> was

> always anxious. However, the pharmacy I used were

> WONDERFUL and a couple of times called me at home

> and

> stayed open after closing hours to make sure I got

> my

> meds.

>

> Once when I went to take care of my mother in

> Idaho

> (her last illness with cancer, she was on hospice,

> no

> stress there!) I forgot my needles, so had to go

> buy a

> box of 30 so I could use 2. And traveling with

> them

> was too fun, using the little cooler. this was the

> PegIntron that you had to take 1 ml of sterile

> water

> and shoot it into the little bottle of powedered

> interferon, swish it GENTLY back and forth or it

> would

> really cause a reaction, and break out another

> needle

> to give the shot with. I always saved my bottles

> with

> the tiny amount in the bottom, just in case my

> meds

> didn't come in time, and I had a whole vegetable

> bin

> in my fridge full of them. But they did come in

> handy

> once when the meds were late. I had to suction

> about

> 15 bottles to get 1 ml of interferon, and I don't

> know

> if it was any good, some of it was months old, so

> I

> took the regular shot when I finally got it 4 days

> later. Just a few of the adventures of the

> mushy-minded on delerious drugs. We should write a

> book, huh?

>

> Michele

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>