Guest guest Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Sounds pretty cool BG...can't wait to see photos! From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 9:48:04 AMSubject: Meter for godzillaI just added a simple, inexpensive ($10-$20?) meter from a hardware store to my godzilla. I did this to measure current in a cranial application, to be sure I did not overdo the current.I find this meter is absolutely wonderful to work with:1. it acts as and "on/off" switch, I don't have to worry about touching the sponges together when storing the unit anymore. When the meter is off, the battery is protected against drain.2. it shows me exactly, to several decimal places (more precise than you need) how much current I am getting.3. It allows me to test various electrodes, wetting solutions, etc to know what effect on the current they will have.4. It gives me repeatability. I know what worked, how much exactly was used. This is going to be pretty constant from person-to-person, so for research, it's essential. Otherwise you have people using various things and not knowing if their use was even tested or not. 5. It looks cool. People often muse about the battery and sponges idea, but when you add the meter, you take it to the serious level, and they pay attention. It's good not to take into public places, however, due to the looking homemade like possibly an explosive. I would check it out if I were a policeman. So avoid trouble.I will photograph and give you exact easy instructions for this add-on soon, like this weekend, it is simple and fast to do, don't worry. It's a very easy improvement that will make your godzilla very much more fun and easier to use for you.bG------------------------------------FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before asking questions that have already been answered. Our recorded answers are likely to be better.HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS in FILES menu group webpageAt this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical treatment from licensed practitioners. We are completely non-commercial. By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages stemming from application (or misapplication) of the information. Results 8 years of people using this are in our menu/files section. No serious side effects have yet been reported, worst being mildly irriated skin from overuse. But please use the information at your own risk. Our designs aren't FDA approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages than our designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA. Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 I have a meter I got for free from Harbor Freight, check newspaper ads. From: K R <accoil48@...>Subject: Re: Meter for godzilla Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 12:57 PM Sounds pretty cool BG...can't wait to see photos! From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 9:48:04 AMSubject: Meter for godzillaI just added a simple, inexpensive ($10-$20?) meter from a hardware store to my godzilla. I did this to measure current in a cranial application, to be sure I did not overdo the current.I find this meter is absolutely wonderful to work with:1. it acts as and "on/off" switch, I don't have to worry about touching the sponges together when storing the unit anymore. When the meter is off, the battery is protected against drain.2. it shows me exactly, to several decimal places (more precise than you need) how much current I am getting.3. It allows me to test various electrodes, wetting solutions, etc to know what effect on the current they will have.4. It gives me repeatability. I know what worked, how much exactly was used. This is going to be pretty constant from person-to-person, so for research, it's essential. Otherwise you have people using various things and not knowing if their use was even tested or not. 5. It looks cool. People often muse about the battery and sponges idea, but when you add the meter, you take it to the serious level, and they pay attention. It's good not to take into public places, however, due to the looking homemade like possibly an explosive. I would check it out if I were a policeman. So avoid trouble.I will photograph and give you exact easy instructions for this add-on soon, like this weekend, it is simple and fast to do, don't worry. It's a very easy improvement that will make your godzilla very much more fun and easier to use for you.bG------------------------------------FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before asking questions that have already been answered. Our recorded answers are likely to be better.HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS in FILES menu group webpageAt this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical treatment from licensed practitioners. We are completely non-commercial. By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages stemming from application (or misapplication) of the information. Results 8 years of people using this are in our menu/files section. No serious side effects have yet been reported, worst being mildly irriated skin from overuse. But please use the information at your own risk. Our designs aren't FDA approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages than our designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA. Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Good way to help keep our healthcare costs down! Nice, EA bG > > > From: K R <accoil48@...> > Subject: Re: Meter for godzilla > > Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 12:57 PM > > >  > > > > > > Sounds pretty cool BG...can't wait to see photos! > > > > > > From: baby_grand <no_reply > > > Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 9:48:04 AM > Subject: Meter for godzilla > > I just added a simple, inexpensive ($10-$20?) meter from a hardware store to my godzilla. I did this to measure current in a cranial application, to be sure I did not overdo the current. > > I find this meter is absolutely wonderful to work with: > > 1. it acts as and " on/off " switch, I don't have to worry about touching the sponges together when storing the unit anymore. When the meter is off, the battery is protected against drain. > > 2. it shows me exactly, to several decimal places (more precise than you need) how much current I am getting. > > 3. It allows me to test various electrodes, wetting solutions, etc to know what effect on the current they will have. > > 4. It gives me repeatability. I know what worked, how much exactly was used. This is going to be pretty constant from person-to-person, so for research, it's essential. Otherwise you have people using various things and not knowing if their use was even tested or not. > > 5. It looks cool. People often muse about the battery and sponges idea, but when you add the meter, you take it to the serious level, and they pay attention. It's good not to take into public places, however, due to the looking homemade like possibly an explosive. I would check it out if I were a policeman. So avoid trouble. > > I will photograph and give you exact easy instructions for this add-on soon, like this weekend, it is simple and fast to do, don't worry. It's a very easy improvement that will make your godzilla very much more fun and easier to use for you. > > bG > > > > ------------------------------------ > > FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before asking questions that have already been answered. Our recorded answers are likely to be better. > > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. > SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS in FILES menu group webpage > > At this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical treatment from licensed practitioners. We are completely non-commercial. By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages stemming from application (or misapplication) of the information. Results 8 years of people using this are in our menu/files section. No serious side effects have yet been reported, worst being mildly irriated skin from overuse. But please use the information at your own risk. Our designs aren't FDA approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages than our designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA. > Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 I have an old analog VOM (as it was called back in the day) I got from the Shack about 40 yrs ago that still works, I think I'll use that for my godzilla amp meter. From: Eandrew T <eandrewt2000@...> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 9:05:37 AMSubject: Re: Meter for godzilla I have a meter I got for free from Harbor Freight, check newspaper ads. From: K R <accoil48@...>Subject: Re: Meter for godzilla Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 12:57 PM Sounds pretty cool BG...can't wait to see photos! From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 9:48:04 AMSubject: Meter for godzillaI just added a simple, inexpensive ($10-$20?) meter from a hardware store to my godzilla. I did this to measure current in a cranial application, to be sure I did not overdo the current.I find this meter is absolutely wonderful to work with:1. it acts as and "on/off" switch, I don't have to worry about touching the sponges together when storing the unit anymore. When the meter is off, the battery is protected against drain.2. it shows me exactly, to several decimal places (more precise than you need) how much current I am getting.3. It allows me to test various electrodes, wetting solutions, etc to know what effect on the current they will have.4. It gives me repeatability. I know what worked, how much exactly was used. This is going to be pretty constant from person-to-person, so for research, it's essential. Otherwise you have people using various things and not knowing if their use was even tested or not. 5. It looks cool. People often muse about the battery and sponges idea, but when you add the meter, you take it to the serious level, and they pay attention. It's good not to take into public places, however, due to the looking homemade like possibly an explosive. I would check it out if I were a policeman. So avoid trouble.I will photograph and give you exact easy instructions for this add-on soon, like this weekend, it is simple and fast to do, don't worry. It's a very easy improvement that will make your godzilla very much more fun and easier to use for you.bG------------------------------------FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before asking questions that have already been answered. Our recorded answers are likely to be better.HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS in FILES menu group webpageAt this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical treatment from licensed practitioners. We are completely non-commercial. By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages stemming from application (or misapplication) of the information. Results 8 years of people using this are in our menu/files section. No serious side effects have yet been reported, worst being mildly irriated skin from overuse. But please use the information at your own risk. Our designs aren't FDA approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages than our designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA. Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Would it be possible to use a dimmer switch in place of a meter? From: K R <accoil48@...> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 6:50:16 AMSubject: Re: Meter for godzilla I have an old analog VOM (as it was called back in the day) I got from the Shack about 40 yrs ago that still works, I think I'll use that for my godzilla amp meter. From: Eandrew T <eandrewt2000@...> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 9:05:37 AMSubject: Re: Meter for godzilla I have a meter I got for free from Harbor Freight, check newspaper ads. From: K R <accoil48@...>Subject: Re: Meter for godzilla Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 12:57 PM Sounds pretty cool BG...can't wait to see photos! From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 9:48:04 AMSubject: Meter for godzillaI just added a simple, inexpensive ($10-$20?) meter from a hardware store to my godzilla. I did this to measure current in a cranial application, to be sure I did not overdo the current.I find this meter is absolutely wonderful to work with:1. it acts as and "on/off" switch, I don't have to worry about touching the sponges together when storing the unit anymore. When the meter is off, the battery is protected against drain.2. it shows me exactly, to several decimal places (more precise than you need) how much current I am getting.3. It allows me to test various electrodes, wetting solutions, etc to know what effect on the current they will have.4. It gives me repeatability. I know what worked, how much exactly was used. This is going to be pretty constant from person-to-person, so for research, it's essential. Otherwise you have people using various things and not knowing if their use was even tested or not. 5. It looks cool. People often muse about the battery and sponges idea, but when you add the meter, you take it to the serious level, and they pay attention. It's good not to take into public places, however, due to the looking homemade like possibly an explosive. I would check it out if I were a policeman. So avoid trouble.I will photograph and give you exact easy instructions for this add-on soon, like this weekend, it is simple and fast to do, don't worry. It's a very easy improvement that will make your godzilla very much more fun and easier to use for you.bG------------------------------------FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before asking questions that have already been answered. Our recorded answers are likely to be better.HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS in FILES menu group webpageAt this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical treatment from licensed practitioners. We are completely non-commercial. By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages stemming from application (or misapplication) of the information. Results 8 years of people using this are in our menu/files section. No serious side effects have yet been reported, worst being mildly irriated skin from overuse. But please use the information at your own risk. Our designs aren't FDA approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages than our designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA. Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 not really, we want to know the current readout as well as control the power. to go by feel is sort of wasting time. If you get the right current you reduce your time quite a bit, it's really worth it. bG > > > >From: K R <accoil48@...> > >Subject: Re: Meter for godzilla > > > >Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 12:57 PM > > > > > > > >Sounds pretty cool BG...can't wait to see photos! > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: baby_grand <no_reply > > > > >Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 9:48:04 AM > >Subject: Meter for godzilla > > > >I just added a simple, inexpensive ($10-$20?) meter from a hardware store to my > >godzilla. I did this to measure current in a cranial application, to be sure I > >did not overdo the current. > > > >I find this meter is absolutely wonderful to work with: > > > >1. it acts as and " on/off " switch, I don't have to worry about touching the > >sponges together when storing the unit anymore. When the meter is off, the > >battery is protected against drain. > > > >2. it shows me exactly, to several decimal places (more precise than you need) > >how much current I am getting. > > > >3. It allows me to test various electrodes, wetting solutions, etc to know what > >effect on the current they will have. > > > >4. It gives me repeatability. I know what worked, how much exactly was used. > >This is going to be pretty constant from person-to-person, so for research, it's > >essential. Otherwise you have people using various things and not knowing if > >their use was even tested or not. > > > > > >5. It looks cool. People often muse about the battery and sponges idea, but > >when you add the meter, you take it to the serious level, and they pay > >attention. It's good not to take into public places, however, due to the > >looking homemade like possibly an explosive. I would check it out if I were a > >policeman. So avoid trouble. > > > >I will photograph and give you exact easy instructions for this add-on soon, > >like this weekend, it is simple and fast to do, don't worry. It's a very easy > >improvement that will make your godzilla very much more fun and easier to use > >for you. > > > >bG > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before asking > >questions that have already been answered. Our recorded answers are likely to > >be better. > > > >HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. > >SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS in FILES menu group webpage > > > >At this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not abandon > >your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical treatment from > >licensed practitioners. We are completely non-commercial. By joining this > >group you agree to hold this group, including the moderator, harmless for real > >or apparent mishaps or any damages stemming from application (or misapplication) > >of the information. Results 8 years of people using this are in our menu/files > >section. No serious side effects have yet been reported, worst being mildly > >irriated skin from overuse. But please use the information at your own risk. > >Our designs aren't FDA approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher > >voltages than our designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA. > > > >Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 No, a dimmer switch is meant for household AC power only. From: K R <accoil48@...>Subject: Re: Meter for godzilla Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 12:57 PM Sounds pretty cool BG...can't wait to see photos! From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Tue, November 16, 2010 9:48:04 AMSubject: Meter for godzillaI just added a simple, inexpensive ($10-$20?) meter from a hardware store to my godzilla. I did this to measure current in a cranial application, to be sure I did not overdo the current.I find this meter is absolutely wonderful to work with:1. it acts as and "on/off" switch, I don't have to worry about touching the sponges together when storing the unit anymore. When the meter is off, the battery is protected against drain.2. it shows me exactly, to several decimal places (more precise than you need) how much current I am getting.3. It allows me to test various electrodes, wetting solutions, etc to know what effect on the current they will have.4. It gives me repeatability. I know what worked, how much exactly was used. This is going to be pretty constant from person-to-person, so for research, it's essential. Otherwise you have people using various things and not knowing if their use was even tested or not. 5. It looks cool. People often muse about the battery and sponges idea, but when you add the meter, you take it to the serious level, and they pay attention. It's good not to take into public places, however, due to the looking homemade like possibly an explosive. I would check it out if I were a policeman. So avoid trouble.I will photograph and give you exact easy instructions for this add-on soon, like this weekend, it is simple and fast to do, don't worry. It's a very easy improvement that will make your godzilla very much more fun and easier to use for you.bG------------------------------------FAQ (frequently asked questions)Please check the following before asking questions that have already been answered. Our recorded answers are likely to be better.HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. SPECIFIC methods and TEST RESULTS in FILES menu group webpageAt this point, our experiment is not a treatment substitute, so do not abandon your normal medical care, or fail to seek competent medical treatment from licensed practitioners. We are completely non-commercial. By joining this group you agree to hold this group, including the moderator, harmless for real or apparent mishaps or any damages stemming from application (or misapplication) of the information. Results 8 years of people using this are in our menu/files section. No serious side effects have yet been reported, worst being mildly irriated skin from overuse. But please use the information at your own risk. Our designs aren't FDA approved or UL listed. TENS units delivering higher voltages than our designs could ever deliver are already approved by FDA. Best of luck, Baby_grand (bob luhrs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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