Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 ha ha, yeah. I'm kicking up dust too. good to hear from you. but i do think there's inferences from the testimonial versus two other cases in our own files. (there's " anecdotes " or stories, then " anecdotal evidence " which has more than a story, also numbers, and is much stronger.) The viral load jumped when off the meds when using the 4 hertz blood electrifier, while we have another report in our own hiv files where a man went off the drugs and his numbers went down after 3 weeks stopping the drug and using godzilla, and continued to go down to near zero while still off the meds stands in stark contrast. This, plus the hep-c case where the 4 hertz device was used for a whole year for an hour a day, then godzilla for 15 weeks and the count went down 99 percent with no test rising in the whole 15 weeks. went from 2.2 million to 14 thousand. It may indicate that the godzilla dc current is working while the alternating current isn't as far as getting these numbers down. Sure it's a few cases, it's all we have. Had they been close calls, well, then forget it, but this isn't close at all, it's polar opposites. I do wish we had more anecdotal evidence however, if not a full study. I can't envision more than two approaches to use mild dc on HIV, the one being a simple current head to toe, maybe 1.5 volts, around that used for the rods of amun ra in ancient egypt, or internal electrodes for short run sessions. The first idea is obviously the easiest. bG > > BG you seem really negative on the beck protocol based on this one last result. I've had both positive and negative experiences with the beck protocol (including INCREASING CD4 counts while on the protocol) and I think you might be jumping the gun a little bit based on this one negative. Here's a couple of things I've observerd... > > 1. Check out the equipment. It doesn't look like quality stuff to me. Could be wrong but don't dismiss it. > > 2. I probably would have recommendeded that this one person stay on his meds during his first trial with beck protocol. The beck protocol did not make his viral load jump to 300,000. Going off meds is known to do that. There's no scientific conclusion that we can draw from this one testimonial. Once he went off meds and jumped on the beck protocol, we lost any scientific baseline to draw conclusions from. > > 3. His other symptoms diminished. > > Anyway.... > > I've been running this theory around in my head too. I agree that HIV in the gut is THE challenge but you should not extrapolate the results of this one guys experience as supporting evidence. > > I also have been reconsidering anything that boosts the immune system while at the same time your trying to reduce your viral load. Studies show that echinacea can INCREASE viral load. I think it only makes sense that if you boost the immune system that you might also be feeding HIV the very thing that it needs to proliferate. I think anecdotally this might be why Beck saw worse results when the subject was on herbal/vitamin regimens. If you do add herbals to your regimen, focus on virus killers like astragulus and cats claw and avoid immune enhancers like mushrooms (imho). > > So, anyway, that's my two cents while I sit here. I've got my zapper on. I drink my CS before I hit the sack. I pulse my lymph nodes while I'm watching Two and a Half men and I drink Ozonated water and Peroxide upon waking every morning. I also am on a maintenance dose of MMS. > > Hope all that helps the discussion. I just like to kick up the dust every now and then : ) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 In my limited experience with the Beck protocol, I've found that taking the meds while using the protocol seems to diminish the effectiveness of the electrical therapy. Don't know why and I've never found any comments about this. Right now I'm doing the one thing I never wanted to do: taking the meds. They really do effect my body in negative ways, some I'm too embarrassed to detail, but my hair was falling out and that's pretty ugly too. I'm planning to go back to Ozone insufflation soon, and ease off the drugs and watch what happens. The reason I haven't posted lately is that I really don't have anything earth-shaking to report. Keep up the good work Bg. Pat > > BG you seem really negative on the beck protocol based on this one last result. I've had both positive and negative experiences with the beck protocol (including INCREASING CD4 counts while on the protocol) and I think you might be jumping the gun a little bit based on this one negative. Here's a couple of things I've observerd... > Anyway.... > Hope all that helps the discussion. I just like to kick up the dust every now and then : ) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Have you tried the godzilla wrist electrifier in place of the beck 4 hertz device? In my recent posts I documented the swing in numbers when that happened with hep-c and hiv when using dc in place of the 4 hertz device. Also, dc should not have a transfection effect, still I would time it to before taking the meds. You should also do it in 2 shorter sessions rather than one longer one, interrupting the replication cycle of the virus. I would not mention this without having been impressed by these numbers. I'm happy to let folks do literal beck all the way but the numbers show you need to try dc. Thanks for encouragement. bG > > > > BG you seem really negative on the beck protocol based on this one last result. I've had both positive and negative experiences with the beck protocol (including INCREASING CD4 counts while on the protocol) and I think you might be jumping the gun a little bit based on this one negative. Here's a couple of things I've observerd... > > Anyway.... > > Hope all that helps the discussion. I just like to kick up the dust every now and then : ) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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