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Hi Molly

You need a copy of a physicians desk reference book. A drug book.

All drugs are poisons. No drug has the power to heal or restore the body to

health.

If you gave the child anti(against) biotics(life) and the child is sick again,

obviously the drugs

not only did not help the child but just suppressed the symptoms.

There are a number of good books at the health food store that explain healthy

lifestyles for babies. Also recommend " How to raise a healthy child in spite of

your Doctor " by

Mendelsohn M.D.

Have a drug and vaccine free day

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Shots in baby's are dangerous

Bronchitis

Hi,

Does anyone know if antibiotics are neccessary for a 16 month old baby,

who has a cold and possible bronchitis? I allowed antibiotics two

months ago, when she got it, and it appears she has gotten it again.

But I am not positive antibiotics help a cold like this? But if they

do, should I give her probiotics at the same time to counteract the

anti?

Thanks,

Sorry off topic, Molly

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Molly,

I've found with my own experiece that bronchitis lasts about the same

length whether I take antibiotics or not... If my son developved bronchitis,

I would not give him antibiotics. Instead, I'd do things to boost the

immune system. This is what I give when DS gets sick, and he's usually over

it in 24-48 hours: 250 mg Vit C per day, 15 mg Zinc per day, Probiotics,

Elderberry Syrup (for a cough) and lots of rest. If it's warm enough

outside, also open the doors and get some fresh air and a little sun coming

in.

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Molly <lachlan-molly@...> wrote:

>

> Hi,

> Does anyone know if antibiotics are neccessary for a 16 month old baby,

> who has a cold and possible bronchitis? I allowed antibiotics two

> months ago, when she got it, and it appears she has gotten it again.

> But I am not positive antibiotics help a cold like this? But if they

> do, should I give her probiotics at the same time to counteract the

> anti?

>

> Thanks,

> Sorry off topic, Molly

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Thanks for the input everyone! I knew my instincts were right! I

will try the other things people have suggested.

>

> >

> > Hi,

> > Does anyone know if antibiotics are neccessary for a 16 month old

baby,

> > who has a cold and possible bronchitis? I allowed antibiotics two

> > months ago, when she got it, and it appears she has gotten it

again.

> > But I am not positive antibiotics help a cold like this? But if

they

> > do, should I give her probiotics at the same time to counteract

the

> > anti?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Sorry off topic, Molly

>

>

>

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Jane wrote:

Just wondering whether anyone else is plagued by bronchial infections.

Hi Jane

It seems that I have bronchial infections now as well. Now this is not

something totally new to me. Way back when in 1958 I started having Bronchitis,

or so they called it at the time, and each year it got worse and worse.

Eventually I was finally diagnosed with full blown Asthma due to allergic

reactions, 58 of them to be sure, and most confined to the area in Ontario,

Canada, that I lived in. I did get some relief once I was posted to Manitoba,

the start of the prairies. I could actually go off most of my medications while

posted there. The only time I seemed to have any bronchial problems was when I

went back to my home on leave. The docs would start me on a course of Asthma

and Hay Fever medications two weeks before I went on leave. The really helped

but the side effect was extreme drowsiness for that two weeks.

Everything came to a head while I was posted to HMCS Preserver, in 1969-1972 and

I had a massive chest infection on top of a bad attack of Asthma. We were in

Ontario for Christmas and New Years, so the kids could spend some time with

their grandparents.. When I got back to Halifax I could hardly breath. At one

point, while trying to sneak out the back door of our shore office in the Forces

Hosptial in Halifax and the Base Surgeon happened to be working late and he

heard my rasps, rattles, wheezing and and coughs. He came to the door of his

office as I was walking by and said one word, " upstairs, now. " that meaning

upstairs to the hospital treatment areas. It was smack to bed with IV's

everywhere in my arms and oxygen running very fast. To make a long story short,

I spent the next two weeks in the hospital and was darned near discharged from

the Armed Forces on medical grounds. But realizing what brought it on, they

told me to stay out of Ontario when on leave. BTW, I was posted to that same

area in 1972-73 but was sent with a briefcase full of pills, puffers and some

injection medications if things got too bad.

That posting spelled the beginning of the end of my Armed Forces carreer so I

just had to roll it out or get posted back to the prairies before my release. I

opted to take my release and called for my last place of residence to be

Calgary, that way the Armed Forces paid for our move to Calgary and what I

thought was a cushy job. I left that after putting thousands of miles on my

leased company car in the first 6 months I was there. Not to mention a 16 day

stay in a comfy, trendy hotel because our furniture and clothes were all lost in

transit. They were not really lost, but they went to Vancouver twice before the

movers could get to unload our furniture and possessions. 16 days in a 4 star

hotel with great room service was as good as it got there for a while. All my

business calls were by early car phones, basically a two way radio linking

towers. A forerunner of cellular telephone service, but you had to say over,

and out when using it. Not to mention the cost.

It was in Calgary that I had my very last Asthma Attack. That brought on by

driving from Vancouver to Calgary with a huge very fancy Mexican Sombrero on the

inside ledge of the rear window. Found out that it was made from horse hair.

Our next door neighbour received a great memento of our trip. It was my then

wife and kids first time going to the Pacific Ocean.

Anyway, it seems that the asthma or possibly something much worse is going on at

the moment. There is still a residual pneumonia and I have to use my steriod

puffer twice daily. I have an appointment with my doc tomorrow (Monday) to get

an update.

But the short answer to your shorter message, " youbetcha, sure dooz "

Blessings

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Jane,

I was for two years until I went to have allergy testing. I was also put

on two nasal allergy drug and I have been fine for 8 months. I were a mask

when I dust of clean liter boxes, as dust was an allergen for me.

Mine was the dripping down the throat, then I would get a cough and bingo

bronchitis.

Kate G

At 06:39 PM 7/27/2008, you wrote:

>Just wondering whether anyone else is plagued by bronchial

>infections. Started losing my voice on Thursday and went to the doc

>today. He did no blood work but thinks it is viral. Oh,

>well.......probably have to see him again in a few days.

>

> Jane

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Hi Jane,

The summer I started getting the classic ReA symptoms (arthritis, urinary, and

eye problems), I also got a bronchial infection that spread into my ears and

sinuses. Although I didn't realize what was happening at the time, I now feel

that the bronchial infection was related to the ReA and the changes my immune

system was experiencing. Since then, I have not had any further bronchial

infections, but I still have a feeling of fluid in my lungs that sometimes

causes me to cough. I've done some investigating to see if others have

experienced similar symptoms, but it doesn't appear to be very common.

Bronchitis

Just wondering whether anyone else is plagued by bronchial infections. Started

losing my voice on Thursday and went to the doc today. He did no blood work but

thinks it is viral. Oh, well.......probably have to see him again in a few days.

Jane

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Jane:

I've been fighting an upper respiratory / sinus infection for the past three

weeks.   Seems Like I'm always coughing up some sort of green or brown stuff

(nasty / sorry!!!)

Every time I go to the docs.. they give me a Zithromax pack and send me home.  

Some times it works... sometimes it doesn't.

Hope this helps.

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> Ok,guys. I have done just enough research to cause me some

discomfort. I did not know that AS was associated with upper lobe

fibrosis.

, bronchial spasms, lung congestion, coughing up, etc. Should I

expect a progressive worsening of the lungs?

>

> Thanks to anybody that can help.

> Thanks for letting me ramble. Jane

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hi group

i get bronchitis at least once a year and usually use antibiotics to clear it

up. they seem to have worked in the past, but i am getting the symptoms as of

this morning and i am going to treat it with a nebulizer and silver and see how

it goes.

i took about 10 minutes this morning (thursday) and again another 10 minutes at

lunch time. I really can't say anything yet, but i get the feeling that

something is happening and the chest cough that normally progresses to a painful

experience seems to have slowed a little. could be wishful thinking but we

shall see.

If by tomorrow it has not gotten painful, that would be out of the ordinary.

will report in a few days.

regards

john

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my daughter used godzilla on two wrists (she has no electric implants), so

current goes across lungs, says it clears up her lung infections that she used

to get antibiotics for, has never gone back to antibiotics in about 5 years now.

bG

>

> hi group

> i get bronchitis at least once a year and usually use antibiotics to clear it

up. they seem to have worked in the past, but i am getting the symptoms as of

this morning and i am going to treat it with a nebulizer and silver and see how

it goes.

>

> i took about 10 minutes this morning (thursday) and again another 10 minutes

at lunch time. I really can't say anything yet, but i get the feeling that

something is happening and the chest cough that normally progresses to a painful

experience seems to have slowed a little. could be wishful thinking but we

shall see.

>

> If by tomorrow it has not gotten painful, that would be out of the ordinary.

will report in a few days.

>

> regards

> john

>

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Looking forward to the results.

Ray

bronchitis

hi groupi get bronchitis at least once a year and usually use antibiotics to clear it up. they seem to have worked in the past, but i am getting the symptoms as of this morning and i am going to treat it with a nebulizer and silver and see how it goes. i took about 10 minutes this morning (thursday) and again another 10 minutes at lunch time. I really can't say anything yet, but i get the feeling that something is happening and the chest cough that normally progresses to a painful experience seems to have slowed a little. could be wishful thinking but we shall see. If by tomorrow it has not gotten painful, that would be out of the ordinary. will report in a few days.regardsjohn

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i would tend to bet against that, but you never know till you try. using the

wrists assures a lot of current goes into blood which is very conductive

compared to the rest of the body.

bG

> >

> > hi group

> > i get bronchitis at least once a year and usually use antibiotics to clear

it up. they seem to have worked in the past, but i am getting the symptoms as of

this morning and i am going to treat it with a nebulizer and silver and see how

it goes.

> >

> > i took about 10 minutes this morning (thursday) and again another 10

minutes at lunch time. I really can't say anything yet, but i get the feeling

that something is happening and the chest cough that normally progresses to a

painful experience seems to have slowed a little. could be wishful thinking but

we shall see.

> >

> > If by tomorrow it has not gotten painful, that would be out of the

ordinary. will report in a few days.

> >

> > regards

> > john

> >

>

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