Re: Anyone built - or used Gutzilla yet?

[Guest guest]

bG,

Honestly, I " m still so jazzed about the paddles, finding them to be so easy to

use, that I'm holding off on the gutzilla. Personally, I think we can do it just

using the paddles, along with the Sota blood purifier and nutritional

supplementation. I've taken a week or so off, and am ramping up again for

another 3 weeks or so of twice daily paddles. After that, I'll take a few weeks

off before my next scheduled blood tests; will keep you posted.

Pat

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> I'd like to hear any and all experience with building it, using it,

> symptoms, side effects, test results or first impressions.... so please jot

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> message right away, do it now, and thanks!

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> bG

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Pat. That's good to hear. I'm really concerned that we nail

HIV in the gut by whatever system of electrodes.

bG

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> bG,

> Honestly, I " m still so jazzed about the paddles, finding them to be

so easy to

> use, that I'm holding off on the gutzilla. Personally, I think we can

do it just

> using the paddles, along with the Sota blood purifier and nutritional

> supplementation. I've taken a week or so off, and am ramping up again

for

> another 3 weeks or so of twice daily paddles. After that, I'll take a

few weeks

> off before my next scheduled blood tests; will keep you posted.

> Pat

>

[Guest guest]

I hv built one with pads and it gave me a rash on the area where the pad is

placed with 9 volts battery. What can be done?

albert

Anyone built - or used Gutzilla yet?

I'd like to hear any and all experience with building it, using it,

symptoms, side effects, test results or first impressions.

It's been out awhile, and I don't want to miss any data on it.

Some things you think might not be important about your experience with

it, could be really significant, so please jot down a response to this

message right away, do it now, and thanks!

bG

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[Guest guest]

albert, it says a 6 volt battery. you used a 9 volt battery. do

not do that. 9 volts is not safe. you didn't follow directions

about the voltage. You can change the design in some ways but not

the voltage.

try using 3 AA's in a battery holder, which will give you 4.5

volts. That should be milder for you if your skin is sensitive.

SEriously, 9 volts can kill you. I really really want you people to

read and believe me. You cannot monkey with 9 volt batteries.

I just posted a new note on the " list of parts " for gutzilla saying

DO NOT USE 9 volts!!

I don't know why people make modifications like this but they insist

on doing it.

LOOK: I'm on your side. If I could have used 9 volts I would have,

since they are small and very nice to work with. But they're also

deadly, so that is why I chose 6 volts!!! I'm on your side, I will

save you all that time and money if I can. If I can't save you the

bulk and expense for safety then it has to be the clumsy way or it

won't be safe. That's all been considered for you. Please don't

undo all that careful consideration I gave to what voltage you

should try. If anything, go under 6 volts. 3.5-6 volts should be

fine and effective.

So, that's what can be done. Read, do it the way I've shown, but if

still too harsh for your skin then try the lesser voltages as above,

and best of luck.

And thanks for the report, albert, I'm glad you let me know. Get

rid of that 9 volt battery now!

bG

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> I hv built one with pads and it gave me a rash on the area where

the pad is placed with 9 volts battery. What can be done?

> albert

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> Anyone built - or used Gutzilla yet?

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> I'd like to hear any and all experience with building it, using

it,

> symptoms, side effects, test results or first impressions.

>

> It's been out awhile, and I don't want to miss any data on it.

>

> Some things you think might not be important about your experience

with

> it, could be really significant, so please jot down a response to

this

> message right away, do it now, and thanks!

>

> bG

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[Guest guest]

bG, Im just holding off for a couple of weeks, as Im getting blood work done

shortly, and I thought It would be good to start after that... just might be

interesting to see any changes in figures.

Im certainly keen to get into it tho. Thks

baby_grand <no_reply > wrote:

I'd like to hear any and all experience with building it, using it,

symptoms, side effects, test results or first impressions.

It's been out awhile, and I don't want to miss any data on it.

Some things you think might not be important about your experience with

it, could be really significant, so please jot down a response to this

message right away, do it now, and thanks!

bG

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for your advice and will certainly do th4.5 volts and see what happens

and will report to the people the results of my experiment. Thank you again for

your advise

Anyone built - or used Gutzilla yet?

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> I'd like to hear any and all experience with building it, using

it,

> symptoms, side effects, test results or first impressions.

>

> It's been out awhile, and I don't want to miss any data on it.

>

> Some things you think might not be important about your experience

with

> it, could be really significant, so please jot down a response to

this

> message right away, do it now, and thanks!

>

> bG

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[Guest guest]

Hi bG,

I built Gutzilla yesturday. I have started using it today, first

session when I get up about 5:30 am, next 4 pm when I'm beck home after

work, then about 7 pm and the last 9 pm.

It is too short to say anything about the results. So far no

sensations. I will report the results.

Best regards,

[Guest guest]

This is wonderful. So, we know it has been used at least once

without problems. I've used it myself to test the sensations and

effects and found it very comfortable. Glad you're not having issues

with it. Let's keep our fingers crossed and hope this takes down

some HIV in the gut!

bG

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> Hi bG,

>

> I built Gutzilla yesturday. I have started using it today, first

> session when I get up about 5:30 am, next 4 pm when I'm beck home

after

> work, then about 7 pm and the last 9 pm.

> It is too short to say anything about the results. So far no

> sensations. I will report the results.

> Best regards,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Exellent, . This will be incredibly helpful to have before and

after readings on it. Do keep us posted, and very best of luck with

it. When you start it, be sure to experiment a bit with compression

levels on the pads, that determines the power, and it can vary 20:1,

more compressed is harsher. Keep well below any skin issues, if you

want my advice.

bG

> I'd like to hear any and all experience with building it,

using it,

> symptoms, side effects, test results or first impressions.

>

> It's been out awhile, and I don't want to miss any data on it.

>

> Some things you think might not be important about your experience

with

> it, could be really significant, so please jot down a response to

this

> message right away, do it now, and thanks!

>

> bG

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[Guest guest]

Delighted to help. I hope it really really helps you, Albert.

bG

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> Thank you for your advice and will certainly do th4.5 volts and see

what happens and will report to the people the results of my

experiment. Thank you again for your advise

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[Guest guest]

Hi BG,

I have been using something like your Gutzilla protocol on and off for about 6

years. Using a

Hulda type Zapper and with one copper pipe electrode stuck in back of the

belt and one

in front. Used while reading in bed I would just restart it after it had gone

through its 35

minute cycle if I was still awake. Used for chronic fatigue type symptoms then,

and now for

any tickbite, or any gut problem that colloidal silver does not knock down.

Tony

On 20 Feb 2007 at 21:35, baby_grand wrote about :

Subject : Anyone built - or used

From: baby_grand <no_reply >

Date sent: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:35:22 -0000

Subject: Anyone built - or used Gutzilla yet?

Send reply to:

> I'd like to hear any and all experience with building it, using it,

> symptoms, side effects, test results or first impressions.

>

> It's been out awhile, and I don't want to miss any data on it.

>

> Some things you think might not be important about your experience with

> it, could be really significant, so please jot down a response to this

> message right away, do it now, and thanks!

>

> bG

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We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability,

or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding,

and good luck researching. --bG

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[Guest guest]

What effects did it have on CFS? So far we have failed with this,

wondring if the gut might be a spot to try for some effects vs CFS.

A Zapper is a low output device compared to any of the things

we're using here. Not " low effect " just electrically it puts out less

electrons by many orders of mangnitude.

bG

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> Hi BG,

> I have been using something like your Gutzilla protocol on and off

for about 6 years. Using a

> Hulda type Zapper and with one copper pipe electrode stuck in

back of the belt and one

> in front. Used while reading in bed I would just restart it after

it had gone through its 35

> minute cycle if I was still awake. Used for chronic fatigue type

symptoms then, and now for

> any tickbite, or any gut problem that colloidal silver does not

knock down.

>

> Tony

>

> On 20 Feb 2007 at 21:35, baby_grand wrote about :

> Subject : Anyone built - or used

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> From: baby_grand <no_reply >

> Date sent: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:35:22 -0000

> Subject: Anyone built - or used Gutzilla

yet?

> Send reply to:

>

> > I'd like to hear any and all experience with building it, using

it,

> > symptoms, side effects, test results or first impressions.

> >

> > It's been out awhile, and I don't want to miss any data on it.

> >

> > Some things you think might not be important about your

experience with

> > it, could be really significant, so please jot down a response to

this

> > message right away, do it now, and thanks!

> >

> > bG

> >

> >

> >

> > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. See FILES menu for

instructions and test results.

> >

> > By joining you agree to hold harmless the posters, including

moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether jointly,

severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but

cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have

medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, and good luck

researching. --bG

> >

[Guest guest]

As I posted before, I am using a battery between two TENS pads stuck over the

sides of both eyes. I did use a 6v lantern battery, but decided that a 3v disc

battery might be better for long term use.

The purpose of the treatment is to see if I can reduce the cataracts that are

dimming my sight (according to the optholmoligist) and to possibly heal the

retina that had some damage from high blood pressure that caused some blood

vessels to leak. Also, there is a nebus (small freckle) on the outside of one

eyeball, that they want to keep an eye on (pun) to make sure that it is not

enlarging. A number of eye doctors are using a microcurrent device to treat

macular degeneration with good results in over 80% of cases. Google

+microcurrents+eyes.

So far, I can't tell anything different. Its been about 5 days.

Today, I hooked a meter in line between the battery and one electrode. It runs

about 180uA most of the time, but when I change polarity it spikes up to over

1000uA. Makes quite a spark in my eyes, and a sharp pin jab at the electrodes,

and then the current quickly drops down. I did not have this sensation with the

6 volt lantern battery, which read over 6v on the meter.

To change polarity I unplug the meter and other electrode wire from the battery

and change them around. There is maybe a half minute when the battery is

disconnected, and I am wondering if that gives it enough time to recharge

itsself a little. Also, I think someone has mentioned that the longer the

electrodes are connected to the flesh the less resistance there is.

Never had this problem before. Maybe someone can explain it. I know it has been

discussed about the spike when changing polarity, but I can't figure out why it

just started today, after I put the meter in line. I used the meter with the 6v

lantern battery, and there was very little flickering and no sharp jab. The

current fluctuated constantly when using the 6v battery, but is fairly constant

with the 3v lithium coin cell.

So many questions.

Dick