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[Guest guest]

Yes, it is all confusing to a beginner. I was confused too. Still am about

some things here. I still can't tell you the difference between a Sota, a

Beck and the Godzilla--though I have finally figured out what all the

Godzillas are. I asked at one time if someone could explain the differences

between the 3 types of devices, and never got an answer, but just stuck with

it and finally came to realize something. Why would I want to spend a lot

of money on BUYING a Beck or Sota, or spend a LOT of time trying to learn to

make one of them when I can't understand much at all about electricity, and

pulsers, and zappers and such, when I can just build a SIMPLE godzilla that

works for around 5 dollars? I waited and waited before I came to that

decision, but I came to it because I kept reading right here on this list

about people that had other devices but found a greater benefit from the

Godzilla, and more information about the MANY different problems the

godzilla was fixing. Teeth, shingles, wounds, colds, liver problems, etc.

I thought-- " one device does all this, and is simple enough for even me to

make? " So I just held my Breath and made one--the apprentice godzilla. And

found out how easy it was to do, and how great it worked. So then I made a

wrist godzilla. And then I made wrist godzillas for my family members. And

now I've made bG's paint brush paddle. And by simply following various

conversations I've learned that I can hook up more than one set of wires to

my 6 volt big battery so I left my original wrapped wires hooked up to the

6v and also have the paint brush paddles hooked up to the 6v. So now I have

a choice about which set of paddles do I want to use--is the area being

covered very small, like my belly button wound? Well then I'll use the

small wrapped wires. Is the area I want to cover larger--like my face for a

cold or my chest for the flu? Well, then I'll pick up the paint brush

paddles. Which, if you read bG's posts when he finally finished the paint

paddles,--now you don't NEED the goggles or gloves!! So, those questions

went away. :-)

It's all scary. Most everything different is scary at first. Just hold

your breath and do it. You learn by listening, by looking at the photos a

BUNCH of times, by asking stupid questions--some that get blown off (go

ahead, pout for a day, but don't give up cause you got your little feelings

hurt) and some that get answered. It's called a learning process--and

remember--it's a FREE learning process for us. The people on this list,

especially bG, have put in their time and energy and money to teach us for

FREE. Doesn't cost us a dime to be here and ask questions and no one is

selling anything (well, outside of the Godzilla kit for the hundred bucks

lol) Stick around--give us a chance. We are not perfect people, and

sometimes we get impatient with saying the same things over and over--typing

takes a lot longer than just being able to talk to someone. But still--give

us a chance. We are not such bad guys after all.

Samala

-------Original Message-------

I got all that info when I joined the list this year and I still had to ask

the stupid questions.

I understood how to do the dealie with the wires and battery and cloth and I

looked at the photos and files and archived messages and lurked for a few

months (maybe it was weeks ;-).

But I still had to ask the stupid questions.

[Guest guest]

Another thing that hasn't been mentioned for awhile is the use of the regular

electrodes (just 2 inches of bare wire bent back over the insulation and covered

with cloth or paper towel.) to stop colds. You put one in your mouth on your

tongue, and the other on the back of your neck. Put the one in your mouth first

and then on the back of your neck. Doing it the other way might cause a

surprising sensation if you touch a tooth. Not bad, just different.

Doing this at the very first sympton will usually stop it over night. Waiting a

couple of days to be sure it is a cold coming on, usually takes much longer. In

addition to the germs you have the toxins from the dead germs to get rid of, and

this may make you feel worse than the cold.

Dick

Re: FOR " HOW-T0 " PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU. Re:

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Yes, it is all confusing to a beginner. I was confused too. Still am about

some things here. I still can't tell you the difference between a Sota, a

Beck and the Godzilla--though I have finally figured out what all the

Godzillas are. I asked at one time if someone could explain the differences

between the 3 types of devices, and never got an answer, but just stuck with

it and finally came to realize something. Why would I want to spend a lot

of money on BUYING a Beck or Sota, or spend a LOT of time trying to learn to

make one of them when I can't understand much at all about electricity, and

pulsers, and zappers and such, when I can just build a SIMPLE godzilla that

works for around 5 dollars? I waited and waited before I came to that

decision, but I came to it because I kept reading right here on this list

about people that had other devices but found a greater benefit from the

Godzilla, and more information about the MANY different problems the

godzilla was fixing. Teeth, shingles, wounds, colds, liver problems, etc.

I thought-- " one device does all this, and is simple enough for even me to

make? " So I just held my Breath and made one--the apprentice godzilla. And

found out how easy it was to do, and how great it worked. So then I made a

wrist godzilla. And then I made wrist godzillas for my family members. And

now I've made bG's paint brush paddle. And by simply following various

conversations I've learned that I can hook up more than one set of wires to

my 6 volt big battery so I left my original wrapped wires hooked up to the

6v and also have the paint brush paddles hooked up to the 6v. So now I have

a choice about which set of paddles do I want to use--is the area being

covered very small, like my belly button wound? Well then I'll use the

small wrapped wires. Is the area I want to cover larger--like my face for a

cold or my chest for the flu? Well, then I'll pick up the paint brush

paddles. Which, if you read bG's posts when he finally finished the paint

paddles,--now you don't NEED the goggles or gloves!! So, those questions

went away. :-)

It's all scary. Most everything different is scary at first. Just hold

your breath and do it. You learn by listening, by looking at the photos a

BUNCH of times, by asking stupid questions--some that get blown off (go

ahead, pout for a day, but don't give up cause you got your little feelings

hurt) and some that get answered. It's called a learning process--and

remember--it's a FREE learning process for us. The people on this list,

especially bG, have put in their time and energy and money to teach us for

FREE. Doesn't cost us a dime to be here and ask questions and no one is

selling anything (well, outside of the Godzilla kit for the hundred bucks

lol) Stick around--give us a chance. We are not perfect people, and

sometimes we get impatient with saying the same things over and over--typing

takes a lot longer than just being able to talk to someone. But still--give

us a chance. We are not such bad guys after all.

Samala

-------Original Message-------

I got all that info when I joined the list this year and I still had to ask

the stupid questions.

I understood how to do the dealie with the wires and battery and cloth and I

looked at the photos and files and archived messages and lurked for a few

months (maybe it was weeks ;-).

But I still had to ask the stupid questions.

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We will be very thankful when we get the hang of it and start seeing the results

you all have had.

I appreciate your time, I really do:)

LS

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REnee..sure is, right about that one! the devices all were just

developed in the last few years, the paddles just a couple weeks

ago!! that is very recent. the older ones are still around in our

photos and mentioned in the files. when I delete photos of the older

devices, people ask for them again.

beck's design was here with photos exactly how to make one, and it

was here a long time, but after awhile people started getting

confused and complaining about how complicated it all was, and why is

that thing here if we don't use it, and I did a cleanout. right away

someone asked for beck again. I'm not putting it back, but will post

to the advanced group. It's taken me 6 years of experiments and

testing and getting the results to come up with a 6 volt battery and

try it. In that time all sorts of electronics projects were tried.

Ask Dick R he's got a drawer full of it, Joe Hansen a cellar-full,

Daddybob a toobox full of junk from those days. People had to learn

to solder and use resistors, transistors, LED's, capacitors, etc

before they could even try this!!

You folks, you lucky ducks now, only have to do the battery and the

wire and learn some weird sounding, confusing names. So, the curve

is now down to a few minutes versus many hours over weeks to learn

electronics first. How'd you like me to delete all these simple 6

volt things and go back to chips, capacitors, resistors,

potentiometers and circuit boards? Things you take weeks to shop for

order then solder together.. Anyone? I didn't think so.

Ok, then.

bG

[Guest guest]

It's odd you say this. I had just tried the zapper when I had a sore throat.

That night I felt like I was getting worse, but the next day I felt great. Today

I have a sore throat again so I am going to zap again and drink a lot of water.

I wish I had all of the toys you guys do...I'll have to start a honey do list

for my sweetie:) Because I am NOT a handy man at all! as you can all tell LOL

LS

Re: FOR " HOW-T0 " PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU. Re:

Silly questions - Full answer tonewbies

Yes, it is all confusing to a beginner. I was confused too. Still am about

some things here. I still can't tell you the difference between a Sota, a

Beck and the Godzilla--though I have finally figured out what all the

Godzillas are. I asked at one time if someone could explain the differences

between the 3 types of devices, and never got an answer, but just stuck with

it and finally came to realize something. Why would I want to spend a lot

of money on BUYING a Beck or Sota, or spend a LOT of time trying to learn to

make one of them when I can't understand much at all about electricity, and

pulsers, and zappers and such, when I can just build a SIMPLE godzilla that

works for around 5 dollars? I waited and waited before I came to that

decision, but I came to it because I kept reading right here on this list

about people that had other devices but found a greater benefit from the

Godzilla, and more information about the MANY different problems the

godzilla was fixing. Teeth, shingles, wounds, colds, liver problems, etc.

I thought-- " one device does all this, and is simple enough for even me to

make? " So I just held my Breath and made one--the apprentice godzilla. And

found out how easy it was to do, and how great it worked. So then I made a

wrist godzilla. And then I made wrist godzillas for my family members. And

now I've made bG's paint brush paddle. And by simply following various

conversations I've learned that I can hook up more than one set of wires to

my 6 volt big battery so I left my original wrapped wires hooked up to the

6v and also have the paint brush paddles hooked up to the 6v. So now I have

a choice about which set of paddles do I want to use--is the area being

covered very small, like my belly button wound? Well then I'll use the

small wrapped wires. Is the area I want to cover larger--like my face for a

cold or my chest for the flu? Well, then I'll pick up the paint brush

paddles. Which, if you read bG's posts when he finally finished the paint

paddles,--now you don't NEED the goggles or gloves!! So, those questions

went away. :-)

It's all scary. Most everything different is scary at first. Just hold

your breath and do it. You learn by listening, by looking at the photos a

BUNCH of times, by asking stupid questions--some that get blown off (go

ahead, pout for a day, but don't give up cause you got your little feelings

hurt) and some that get answered. It's called a learning process--and

remember--it's a FREE learning process for us. The people on this list,

especially bG, have put in their time and energy and money to teach us for

FREE. Doesn't cost us a dime to be here and ask questions and no one is

selling anything (well, outside of the Godzilla kit for the hundred bucks

lol) Stick around--give us a chance. We are not perfect people, and

sometimes we get impatient with saying the same things over and over--typing

takes a lot longer than just being able to talk to someone. But still--give

us a chance. We are not such bad guys after all.

Samala

-------Original Message-------

I got all that info when I joined the list this year and I still had to ask

the stupid questions.

I understood how to do the dealie with the wires and battery and cloth and I

looked at the photos and files and archived messages and lurked for a few

months (maybe it was weeks ;-).

But I still had to ask the stupid questions.

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Samala,

Your email meant SOOOO MUCH!

I am going to make one I promise. And once I do I am sure I will laugh at how

easy it was.

Can you tell me how to use the files?

Let's say I want to know what kind of wires I need, or how to make it run, how

long to keep it on...I have about 50 questions that I am afraid to ask:)

LS

Re: FOR " HOW-T0 " PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU. Re:

Silly questions - Full answer tonewbies

Yes, it is all confusing to a beginner. I was confused too. Still am about

some things here. I still can't tell you the difference between a Sota, a

Beck and the Godzilla--though I have finally figured out what all the

Godzillas are. I asked at one time if someone could explain the differences

between the 3 types of devices, and never got an answer, but just stuck with

it and finally came to realize something. Why would I want to spend a lot

of money on BUYING a Beck or Sota, or spend a LOT of time trying to learn to

make one of them when I can't understand much at all about electricity, and

pulsers, and zappers and such, when I can just build a SIMPLE godzilla that

works for around 5 dollars? I waited and waited before I came to that

decision, but I came to it because I kept reading right here on this list

about people that had other devices but found a greater benefit from the

Godzilla, and more information about the MANY different problems the

godzilla was fixing. Teeth, shingles, wounds, colds, liver problems, etc.

I thought-- " one device does all this, and is simple enough for even me to

make? " So I just held my Breath and made one--the apprentice godzilla. And

found out how easy it was to do, and how great it worked. So then I made a

wrist godzilla. And then I made wrist godzillas for my family members. And

now I've made bG's paint brush paddle. And by simply following various

conversations I've learned that I can hook up more than one set of wires to

my 6 volt big battery so I left my original wrapped wires hooked up to the

6v and also have the paint brush paddles hooked up to the 6v. So now I have

a choice about which set of paddles do I want to use--is the area being

covered very small, like my belly button wound? Well then I'll use the

small wrapped wires. Is the area I want to cover larger--like my face for a

cold or my chest for the flu? Well, then I'll pick up the paint brush

paddles. Which, if you read bG's posts when he finally finished the paint

paddles,--now you don't NEED the goggles or gloves!! So, those questions

went away. :-)

It's all scary. Most everything different is scary at first. Just hold

your breath and do it. You learn by listening, by looking at the photos a

BUNCH of times, by asking stupid questions--some that get blown off (go

ahead, pout for a day, but don't give up cause you got your little feelings

hurt) and some that get answered. It's called a learning process--and

remember--it's a FREE learning process for us. The people on this list,

especially bG, have put in their time and energy and money to teach us for

FREE. Doesn't cost us a dime to be here and ask questions and no one is

selling anything (well, outside of the Godzilla kit for the hundred bucks

lol) Stick around--give us a chance. We are not perfect people, and

sometimes we get impatient with saying the same things over and over--typing

takes a lot longer than just being able to talk to someone. But still--give

us a chance. We are not such bad guys after all.

Samala

-------Original Message-------

I got all that info when I joined the list this year and I still had to ask

the stupid questions.

I understood how to do the dealie with the wires and battery and cloth and I

looked at the photos and files and archived messages and lurked for a few

months (maybe it was weeks ;-).

But I still had to ask the stupid questions.

[Guest guest]

Ask, ask, ask. I promise we won't bite. Lol Thing is, even with our files I

do have to say this--sorry bG--because it's SO simple to bG, and he

understands it and has worked for 6 years with all these electric things,

the files DON'T talk about the details that he assumes everyone knows. Like

wire size. For a newbie we wonder what size, cause we go to the store and

see rolls and rolls of different sizes. But he does say lamp wire, and

normally there's only one size lamp wire. So we are worrying for

nothing--just go tell the clerk you want lamp wire, or cut the wire cord off

an old broken lamp. That simple. But for a newbie who hasn't ever touched

electricity before, it's daunting. That's why I said use a paring knife. I

DO have a wire stripper because I have wired up a couple of remodeled rooms

before, but when I'm doing something small like just stripping one lamp cord

I revert to the handy to get to tools--which is my trusty paring knife.

How to use the files? That too can be a little off-putting. The

information is in the file section, and the photos are in the photo sections

so you have to put the two together, and to do THAT you have to kind of

read through them all. Which sounds like a lot, and will take you a couple

of hours, but is SO totally worth your time. So I suggest you do so. It

will give you a good background on what the devices are, what they do, how

they have been used, WHY they work. So go to our home page, click on the

file section on the left hand side of the home page, then when the files pop

up, start reading. If something is too far over your head, skip it. You

can always come back after you have a better understanding. Then when you

are done reading, go back to the home page, and on the left side again click

on the word photos. Then go through all the photos in the folders there.

Then you will start to understand the photos more because now you've read

about how to put things together, how someone got benefit from this one or

that one.

If you read past messages you will read about installing capacitators,

on-off switches, various words that make absolutely no sense--right now.

But once you HAVE read through the various files, you will see that you don

t need an on-off switch with the 6 volt--it only works when the material at

the end of the wires has been wetted with water! So, if the material is

dry--there's no electricity. And you will read that with the wrist device

you can get a box from Radio Shack with an on-off switch, but it's not

necessary because all you have to do to shut it off is take out one battery!

Just like if you have a transistor radio that requires 2 batteries. If you

have two in there you can turn it on and listen to music. If you only have

one you can turn it on all you want but you will not hear a thing because it

doesn't work without 2 batteries.

And remember--you can always write me off list if you feel more comfortable

talking to a just recently moved from newbie land person. :-)

Samala

Gaiacita@...

-------Original Message-------

Can you tell me how to use the files?

Let's say I want to know what kind of wires I need, or how to make it run,

how long to keep it on...I have about 50 questions that I am afraid to ask:)

LS

[Guest guest]

Ask, ask, ask. I promise we won't bite. Lol Thing is, even with our files I

do have to say this--sorry bG--because it's SO simple to bG, and he

understands it and has worked for 6 years with all these electric things,

the files DON'T talk about the details that he assumes everyone knows. Like

wire size. For a newbie we wonder what size, cause we go to the store and

see rolls and rolls of different sizes. But he does say lamp wire, and

normally there's only one size lamp wire. So we are worrying for

nothing--just go tell the clerk you want lamp wire, or cut the wire cord off

an old broken lamp. That simple. But for a newbie who hasn't ever touched

electricity before, it's daunting. That's why I said use a paring knife. I

DO have a wire stripper because I have wired up a couple of remodeled rooms

before, but when I'm doing something small like just stripping one lamp cord

I revert to the handy to get to tools--which is my trusty paring knife.

How to use the files? That too can be a little off-putting. The

information is in the file section, and the photos are in the photo sections

so you have to put the two together, and to do THAT you have to kind of

read through them all. Which sounds like a lot, and will take you a couple

of hours, but is SO totally worth your time. So I suggest you do so. It

will give you a good background on what the devices are, what they do, how

they have been used, WHY they work. So go to our home page, click on the

file section on the left hand side of the home page, then when the files pop

up, start reading. If something is too far over your head, skip it. You

can always come back after you have a better understanding. Then when you

are done reading, go back to the home page, and on the left side again click

on the word photos. Then go through all the photos in the folders there.

Then you will start to understand the photos more because now you've read

about how to put things together, how someone got benefit from this one or

that one.

If you read past messages you will read about installing capacitators,

on-off switches, various words that make absolutely no sense--right now.

But once you HAVE read through the various files, you will see that you don

t need an on-off switch with the 6 volt--it only works when the material at

the end of the wires has been wetted with water! So, if the material is

dry--there's no electricity. And you will read that with the wrist device

you can get a box from Radio Shack with an on-off switch, but it's not

necessary because all you have to do to shut it off is take out one battery!

Just like if you have a transistor radio that requires 2 batteries. If you

have two in there you can turn it on and listen to music. If you only have

one you can turn it on all you want but you will not hear a thing because it

doesn't work without 2 batteries.

And remember--you can always write me off list if you feel more comfortable

talking to a just recently moved from newbie land person. :-)

Samala

Gaiacita@...

-------Original Message-------

Can you tell me how to use the files?

Let's say I want to know what kind of wires I need, or how to make it run,

how long to keep it on...I have about 50 questions that I am afraid to ask:)

LS

[Guest guest]

What a good job you are doing, . Keep it up. You're correct. many of us do

assume that people understand what we say, and do not realize that we are

talking over their current understanding. We, at least I, am totally at a loss

with anything above the basic electronics terms, but obviously there are those

whose understanding is somewhat lower than mine.

Anyway, we appreciate your bridge building.

By the way, in case it has not been answered before, lamp cord is almost always

18 gauge. It is the most common size wire that most everyone is familiar with,

so the easiest to find. However, you will notice that it is somewhat stiff, and

not as comfortable as finer wire, and may come unfastened if you move around. A

finer wire, like speaker wire found at radio shack or other electronics stores,

is much more flexible and easier to use. Not for the gloves or paddles, though.

You probably need the bulkier wire so you get a large enough electrode.

Dick

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Ask, ask, ask. I promise we won't bite. Lol Thing is, even with our files I

do have to say this--sorry bG--because it's SO simple to bG, and he

understands it and has worked for 6 years with all these electric things,

the files DON'T talk about the details that he assumes everyone knows. Like

wire size. For a newbie we wonder what size, cause we go to the store and

see rolls and rolls of different sizes. But he does say lamp wire, and

normally there's only one size lamp wire. So we are worrying for

nothing--just go tell the clerk you want lamp wire, or cut the wire cord off

an old broken lamp. That simple. But for a newbie who hasn't ever touched

electricity before, it's daunting. That's why I said use a paring knife. I

DO have a wire stripper because I have wired up a couple of remodeled rooms

before, but when I'm doing something small like just stripping one lamp cord

I revert to the handy to get to tools--which is my trusty paring knife.

How to use the files? That too can be a little off-putting. The

information is in the file section, and the photos are in the photo sections

so you have to put the two together, and to do THAT you have to kind of

read through them all. Which sounds like a lot, and will take you a couple

of hours, but is SO totally worth your time. So I suggest you do so. It

will give you a good background on what the devices are, what they do, how

they have been used, WHY they work. So go to our home page, click on the

file section on the left hand side of the home page, then when the files pop

up, start reading. If something is too far over your head, skip it. You

can always come back after you have a better understanding. Then when you

are done reading, go back to the home page, and on the left side again click

on the word photos. Then go through all the photos in the folders there.

Then you will start to understand the photos more because now you've read

about how to put things together, how someone got benefit from this one or

that one.

If you read past messages you will read about installing capacitators,

on-off switches, various words that make absolutely no sense--right now.

But once you HAVE read through the various files, you will see that you don

t need an on-off switch with the 6 volt--it only works when the material at

the end of the wires has been wetted with water! So, if the material is

dry--there's no electricity. And you will read that with the wrist device

you can get a box from Radio Shack with an on-off switch, but it's not

necessary because all you have to do to shut it off is take out one battery!

Just like if you have a transistor radio that requires 2 batteries. If you

have two in there you can turn it on and listen to music. If you only have

one you can turn it on all you want but you will not hear a thing because it

doesn't work without 2 batteries.

And remember--you can always write me off list if you feel more comfortable

talking to a just recently moved from newbie land person. :-)

Samala

Gaiacita@...

-------Original Message-------

Can you tell me how to use the files?

Let's say I want to know what kind of wires I need, or how to make it run,

how long to keep it on...I have about 50 questions that I am afraid to ask:)

LS

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What a good job you are doing, . Keep it up. You're correct. many of us do

assume that people understand what we say, and do not realize that we are

talking over their current understanding. We, at least I, am totally at a loss

with anything above the basic electronics terms, but obviously there are those

whose understanding is somewhat lower than mine.

Anyway, we appreciate your bridge building.

By the way, in case it has not been answered before, lamp cord is almost always

18 gauge. It is the most common size wire that most everyone is familiar with,

so the easiest to find. However, you will notice that it is somewhat stiff, and

not as comfortable as finer wire, and may come unfastened if you move around. A

finer wire, like speaker wire found at radio shack or other electronics stores,

is much more flexible and easier to use. Not for the gloves or paddles, though.

You probably need the bulkier wire so you get a large enough electrode.

Dick

Re: FOR " HOW-T0 " PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU. Re:

Silly questions - Full answer tonewbies

Ask, ask, ask. I promise we won't bite. Lol Thing is, even with our files I

do have to say this--sorry bG--because it's SO simple to bG, and he

understands it and has worked for 6 years with all these electric things,

the files DON'T talk about the details that he assumes everyone knows. Like

wire size. For a newbie we wonder what size, cause we go to the store and

see rolls and rolls of different sizes. But he does say lamp wire, and

normally there's only one size lamp wire. So we are worrying for

nothing--just go tell the clerk you want lamp wire, or cut the wire cord off

an old broken lamp. That simple. But for a newbie who hasn't ever touched

electricity before, it's daunting. That's why I said use a paring knife. I

DO have a wire stripper because I have wired up a couple of remodeled rooms

before, but when I'm doing something small like just stripping one lamp cord

I revert to the handy to get to tools--which is my trusty paring knife.

How to use the files? That too can be a little off-putting. The

information is in the file section, and the photos are in the photo sections

so you have to put the two together, and to do THAT you have to kind of

read through them all. Which sounds like a lot, and will take you a couple

of hours, but is SO totally worth your time. So I suggest you do so. It

will give you a good background on what the devices are, what they do, how

they have been used, WHY they work. So go to our home page, click on the

file section on the left hand side of the home page, then when the files pop

up, start reading. If something is too far over your head, skip it. You

can always come back after you have a better understanding. Then when you

are done reading, go back to the home page, and on the left side again click

on the word photos. Then go through all the photos in the folders there.

Then you will start to understand the photos more because now you've read

about how to put things together, how someone got benefit from this one or

that one.

If you read past messages you will read about installing capacitators,

on-off switches, various words that make absolutely no sense--right now.

But once you HAVE read through the various files, you will see that you don

t need an on-off switch with the 6 volt--it only works when the material at

the end of the wires has been wetted with water! So, if the material is

dry--there's no electricity. And you will read that with the wrist device

you can get a box from Radio Shack with an on-off switch, but it's not

necessary because all you have to do to shut it off is take out one battery!

Just like if you have a transistor radio that requires 2 batteries. If you

have two in there you can turn it on and listen to music. If you only have

one you can turn it on all you want but you will not hear a thing because it

doesn't work without 2 batteries.

And remember--you can always write me off list if you feel more comfortable

talking to a just recently moved from newbie land person. :-)

Samala

Gaiacita@...

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Can you tell me how to use the files?

Let's say I want to know what kind of wires I need, or how to make it run,

how long to keep it on...I have about 50 questions that I am afraid to ask:)

LS

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Thanks Dick. I do have the kind of handy ability, once I finally grasp

something, to be able to break it down so that others can understand. I do

know that it took me quite a while in this group of reading files and trying

to match up photos, because the instructions, though terribly simple once

you understand, can be confusing when you don't understand--too much is left

out just due to assuming everyone else knows what you are talking about.

Lol But hey--it's called a learning process. It's a good workout for the

brain.

That's a good tip about the wire. I just went ahead and used old lamp cord,

so never went down to see what gauge to use. But knowing that the smaller

gauge can come off is a great tip.

Samala

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What a good job you are doing, . Keep it up. You're correct. Many of us

do assume that people understand what we say, and do not realize that we are

talking over their current understanding. We, at least I, am totally at a

loss with anything above the basic electronics terms, but obviously there

are those whose understanding is somewhat lower than mine.

Anyway, we appreciate your bridge building.

By the way, in case it has not been answered before, lamp cord is almost

always 18 gauge. It is the most common size wire that most everyone is

familiar with, so the easiest to find. However, you will notice that it is

somewhat stiff, and not as comfortable as finer wire, and may come

unfastened if you move around. A finer wire, like speaker wire found at

radio shack or other electronics stores, is much more flexible and easier to

use. Not for the gloves or paddles, though. You probably need the bulkier

wire so you get a large enough electrode.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dick. I do have the kind of handy ability, once I finally grasp

something, to be able to break it down so that others can understand. I do

know that it took me quite a while in this group of reading files and trying

to match up photos, because the instructions, though terribly simple once

you understand, can be confusing when you don't understand--too much is left

out just due to assuming everyone else knows what you are talking about.

Lol But hey--it's called a learning process. It's a good workout for the

brain.

That's a good tip about the wire. I just went ahead and used old lamp cord,

so never went down to see what gauge to use. But knowing that the smaller

gauge can come off is a great tip.

Samala

-------Original Message-------

What a good job you are doing, . Keep it up. You're correct. Many of us

do assume that people understand what we say, and do not realize that we are

talking over their current understanding. We, at least I, am totally at a

loss with anything above the basic electronics terms, but obviously there

are those whose understanding is somewhat lower than mine.

Anyway, we appreciate your bridge building.

By the way, in case it has not been answered before, lamp cord is almost

always 18 gauge. It is the most common size wire that most everyone is

familiar with, so the easiest to find. However, you will notice that it is

somewhat stiff, and not as comfortable as finer wire, and may come

unfastened if you move around. A finer wire, like speaker wire found at

radio shack or other electronics stores, is much more flexible and easier to

use. Not for the gloves or paddles, though. You probably need the bulkier

wire so you get a large enough electrode.

[Guest guest]

>

> What a good job you are doing, . Keep it up. You're correct.

many of us do assume that people understand what we say, and do not

realize that we are talking over their current understanding. We, at

least I, am totally at a loss with anything above the basic

electronics terms, but obviously there are those whose understanding

is somewhat lower than mine.

>

> Anyway, we appreciate your bridge building.

>

> By the way, in case it has not been answered before, lamp cord is

almost always 18 gauge. It is the most common size wire that most

everyone is familiar with, so the easiest to find.

You can use anything down to # 24; even smaller - but gets

increasingly harder to handle & strip below # 22. Mostly

that's on spools. Recent R.S. visit had no small speaker

wire; # 16 smallest, gets stiffer as wire diameter

increases, harder to live w.

Joe.

However, you will notice that it is somewhat stiff, and not as

comfortable as finer wire, and may come unfastened if you move

around. A finer wire, like speaker wire found at radio shack or other

electronics stores, is much more flexible and easier to use. Not for

the gloves or paddles, though. You probably need the bulkier wire so

you get a large enough electrode.

>

> Dick

>

>

> Re: FOR " HOW-T0 " PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS

MENU. Re: Silly questions - Full answer

tonewbies

>

>

> Ask, ask, ask. I promise we won't bite. Lol Thing is, even with

our files I

> do have to say this--sorry bG--because it's SO simple to bG, and

he

> understands it and has worked for 6 years with all these electric

things,

> the files DON'T talk about the details that he assumes everyone

knows. Like

> wire size. For a newbie we wonder what size, cause we go to the

store and

> see rolls and rolls of different sizes. But he does say lamp

wire, and

> normally there's only one size lamp wire. So we are worrying for

> nothing--just go tell the clerk you want lamp wire, or cut the

wire cord off

> an old broken lamp. That simple. But for a newbie who hasn't ever

touched

> electricity before, it's daunting. That's why I said use a paring

knife. I

> DO have a wire stripper because I have wired up a couple of

remodeled rooms

> before, but when I'm doing something small like just stripping

one lamp cord

> I revert to the handy to get to tools--which is my trusty paring

knife.

>

> How to use the files? That too can be a little off-putting. The

> information is in the file section, and the photos are in the

photo sections

> so you have to put the two together, and to do THAT you have to

kind of

> read through them all. Which sounds like a lot, and will take you

a couple

> of hours, but is SO totally worth your time. So I suggest you do

so. It

> will give you a good background on what the devices are, what

they do, how

> they have been used, WHY they work. So go to our home page, click

on the

> file section on the left hand side of the home page, then when

the files pop

> up, start reading. If something is too far over your head, skip

it. You

> can always come back after you have a better understanding. Then

when you

> are done reading, go back to the home page, and on the left side

again click

> on the word photos. Then go through all the photos in the folders

there.

> Then you will start to understand the photos more because now

you've read

> about how to put things together, how someone got benefit from

this one or

> that one.

>

> If you read past messages you will read about installing

capacitators,

> on-off switches, various words that make absolutely no sense--

right now.

> But once you HAVE read through the various files, you will see

that you don

> t need an on-off switch with the 6 volt--it only works when the

material at

> the end of the wires has been wetted with water! So, if the

material is

> dry--there's no electricity. And you will read that with the

wrist device

> you can get a box from Radio Shack with an on-off switch, but

it's not

> necessary because all you have to do to shut it off is take out

one battery!

> Just like if you have a transistor radio that requires 2

batteries. If you

> have two in there you can turn it on and listen to music. If you

only have

> one you can turn it on all you want but you will not hear a thing

because it

> doesn't work without 2 batteries.

>

> And remember--you can always write me off list if you feel more

comfortable

> talking to a just recently moved from newbie land person. :-)

>

> Samala

> Gaiacita@...

>

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>

>

> Can you tell me how to use the files?

> Let's say I want to know what kind of wires I need, or how to

make it run,

> how long to keep it on...I have about 50 questions that I am

afraid to ask:)

>

> LS

>

>

>

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