Hep-C

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hi,

thank you for this!!!!

i will research this further!

thank you, thank you!

in peace,

talyne

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In a message dated 11/19/02 10:12:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

bobluhrs@... writes:

<< this group has one fellow using the free device there and got 98%

reduction in count in 9 weeks' time. >>

Hi bG,

I'm in the process of posting the pictures of this device in our group files

section under Photos.

Dotsie

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/

this group has one fellow using the free device there and got 98%

reduction in count in 9 weeks' time. It is similar to the

Beck/jaguar devices but homemade and a lot more powerful. he used a

SOTA beck device for a year and couldn't get the levels below 2

million count. Last test came in at 45,000.

bG

> I'm awaiting the arrival of a Beck device to begin treatment for

Hep-

> C (Jaguar's Black Box with 4, 30 and 100 hz. settings). Anyone out

> there with any insight re Hep-C and blood electrification? I'm

> especially interested to hear about duration of daily treatments

for

> people with liver damage, and whether 30 hz would therefore be

> preferable to 4 hz. Also, I currently work at a refinery where

toxic

> exposure is unavoidable. Is this perhaps bad timing to begin

> treatment? Thanks, .

[Guest guest]

On the Colloidal Silver site many Hep-c victims report complete cures after

drinking an ounce three times a day. Check it out.

Dick

Re: Hep-C

/

this group has one fellow using the free device there and got 98%

reduction in count in 9 weeks' time. It is similar to the

Beck/jaguar devices but homemade and a lot more powerful. he used a

SOTA beck device for a year and couldn't get the levels below 2

million count. Last test came in at 45,000.

bG

> I'm awaiting the arrival of a Beck device to begin treatment for

Hep-

> C (Jaguar's Black Box with 4, 30 and 100 hz. settings). Anyone out

> there with any insight re Hep-C and blood electrification? I'm

> especially interested to hear about duration of daily treatments

for

> people with liver damage, and whether 30 hz would therefore be

> preferable to 4 hz. Also, I currently work at a refinery where

toxic

> exposure is unavoidable. Is this perhaps bad timing to begin

> treatment? Thanks, .

[Guest guest]

Good, welcome to them. Enjoy!

bG

> In a message dated 11/19/02 10:12:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> bobluhrs@e... writes:

>

> << this group has one fellow using the free device there and got

98%

> reduction in count in 9 weeks' time. >>

>

> Hi bG,

> I'm in the process of posting the pictures of this device in our

group files

> section under Photos.

>

> Dotsie

[Guest guest]

High Dick,

Could you post me the address of this site?

Thanks Tom

In , " Dick Rochon "

<rrochon13@a...> wrote:

> On the Colloidal Silver site many Hep-c victims report complete

cures after drinking an ounce three times a day. Check it out.

>

> Dick

> Re: Hep-C

>

>

> /

>

> this group has one fellow using the free device there and got 98%

> reduction in count in 9 weeks' time. It is similar to the

> Beck/jaguar devices but homemade and a lot more powerful. he

used a

> SOTA beck device for a year and couldn't get the levels below 2

> million count. Last test came in at 45,000.

>

> bG

>

>

> > I'm awaiting the arrival of a Beck device to begin treatment

for

> Hep-

> > C (Jaguar's Black Box with 4, 30 and 100 hz. settings). Anyone

out

> > there with any insight re Hep-C and blood electrification? I'm

> > especially interested to hear about duration of daily

treatments

> for

> > people with liver damage, and whether 30 hz would therefore be

> > preferable to 4 hz. Also, I currently work at a refinery where

> toxic

> > exposure is unavoidable. Is this perhaps bad timing to begin

> > treatment? Thanks, .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

On Friday 27 June 2003 08:17 am, layresearcher wrote:

> High Dick,

> Could you post me the address of this site?

> Thanks Tom

> In , " Dick Rochon "

>

> <rrochon13@a...> wrote:

> > On the Colloidal Silver site many Hep-c victims report complete

>

> cures after drinking an ounce three times a day. Check it out.

Bill McFarland at MSP Research has reports from doctors that the

mild silver protein solution that he sells has helped with herpes.

http://www.mildsilverprotein.com/index.html

1-334-493-0420

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Dear Friends, Pam advised to post my questions to group members,hence this post. My questions are as under, 1- Is it true that there is no other treatment of hep-c except interferon?. In case to non responding to the treatment or serious side effects, should the patient waite to death only. 2- If Liver enzymes come down to normal or are reducing like mine, is it not the sign that liver inflamation is reducing and damage is being repaired. My doc told that it is natural process that liver is regeneratd. 3- What are the indicaters except viral load test to know that the treatment is responding. 4- My doc is against Biopsy. He asked for Ultrasound. He said Ultrasound can tell the state of liver . Genotype test can tell the way of treatment. is it so?. 5- I do not know my Genotype. Should I arrange it Immediately?. Please give your input. Note: forwarded message attached.

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Hi Saleem I would have to agree with you that many times docs here in the US DO more than might be needed because we ARE a society that sues docs for everything that might happen. Its sad but true. The docs are protecting themselves. But the "gold standard" is to do a biopsy as THAT is the ONLY way to tell how much damage is done down to the CELLULAR level,, most labs and ultrasounds etc cannot tell damage down that small. I dont know much about color therapy but Im open to all sorts of info. What I have seen is that standard treatment does NOT work for everyone, in fact the success rate is somewhere around only 50% which would be counted as a "failure" in most other studies. But as of this point, we have not seen "alternative" treatment that is REPLICATIBLE, that works. We have seen sporatic ppl who have cleared the virus with different but alternative treatments but they dont seem to be something that can be

replicatible to even that 50% that Interferon does. That is sad because I DO believe that many other things 'could' possibly work, but we dont have the support here in the states to really take a look at alternative treatments. There are many reasons for this but the main one is that the drug companies make it almost impossible for alternatives to be tested. There is NO MONEY in testing alternatives nor is there any real long term money in cure for MOST DISEASES... only in diagnosis and treatment. Keep us on their medications, keep those profits up for the share holders. Another reason that alternatives are not tested here in the states is that smaller companies who do produce alternative supplements do not have the financial backing to support the studies, they are not cheap. Its a sad fact. I think in other countries that are not dependent on the medical system for much of its commerce will be where the alternative treatment cure WILL BE

FOUND.. as they dont have the huge political powers that the drug companies here in the USA and other industrialized countries have. THEY ( the drug companies) WILL and ARE DOING EVERYTHING possible to suppress any studies of anything that THEY( the drug companies) cannot patent and resale at huge profits. Its a vicious circle. So, my advice to anyone is to do what they feel is right for them. MY opinion, AT THIS POINT IS, that we have NO real studies to show that anything alternative will work consistantly. Only standard tx with INF and Riba has any success at all, but that does NOT mean that it will work for you, OR that it wont work for you,, but treatment is hard but doable, has lasting side effects for many ppl but in MY CASE, I have put the virus in remission, but I am left with long term disabling side effects from tx.. but the side effects are not going to kill me, the virus would. Guess its a crap shoot either way. Im a

mod here at this forum as well as several others. I feel its MY RESPONSIBILITY to tell you the truth as I see it, and at this time, I only see that standard tx has any chance to work, but that does NOT mean that I DONT THINK THAT something alternative will work, I just do not know what will... YET... I think that WE, as a community have a right to DEMAND that EVERYTHING be looked at, especially anything that has a possibility of helping to either rid the body of the virus,, OR help the liver tolerate the virus until something comes along to kill the virus. I support every persons right to choose what sort of treatment OR NO TREATMENT as THEIR right to decide for themselves. I dont think it has to be all one way or the other. I think that as long as we keep on telling the truth about what we know, and respect every persons right to tell "their truth", we will be doing what this forum was started for... to give out information and to support each persons

right to decide for themselves... I hope you have much success with what ever kind of treatment you choose Saleem.. jaxsaleem chaudhary <saleem.charudhary@...> wrote: Hi Josaf. I have gone through different opinions, most of them are quite discouraging. I was diagnosed hep-c in Nov 05. I consulted the leading specialist in Pakistan, who after clinical examination had given the opinion that no damage to the liver has been done and no need of Biopsy. He advised me

Interferon therapy. I discussed with many docs, who told that the problems of American or European docs ( although all of them are American or U.K. qualified) that Laws are very strict and in case of any problem they have to pay compensation to the patients so they prefer to go for all the tests, although they can give the opinion from clinical examination. In developing countries, particularly in remote areas, no modern facilities are available. No Lab test, Ultrasound and X-rays facilities are available. Therefore, the docs had to rely on their clinical judgment. I am Genotype 3a, NO LAB TEST IN WHOLE OF Islamabad and Rawalpindi is available. My blood samples were sent to Karachi 1600 km from here. I have tried

Homeopathic treatment for 5 months and I observed improvement. Now a days I am undergoing herbal treatment along with color therapy and going well. I am depression patient since last 8 years, therefore, I am not going for Interferon therapy because that may aggravate my depression. In this regard, there is difference of opinion in the docs, one group say I should go for it but dose of antidepressant has to be readjusted whereas the other say that I should refrain from it. That’s why I had to go to alternative medicine. You should go according to your own circumstances in consultation with your doc but please see doc is not always right. Best of luck. Saleem __________________________________________________

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It's a tragic system in the way that information is dished out in an

atmosphere of doom. The symptoms and the signs can be at odds, but

it's important to stay positive, I think, while devising the best

tactics to deal with the disease.

I saw a lecture from UW coll of medicine's " mini-med school " on TV.

Illness is referred to as a subjective feeling that things are not

well. Symptoms reveal illness to us.

A person feels ill, they have symptoms, they come in and an

examination is done possibly with tests to look for any signs of

disease that these symptoms may suggest. They either find such signs

or they don't. Signs are not the same as symptoms. Signs are not

always something a person can feel, but they indicate something's up

nevertheless.

A person can come in for a checkup feeling far from ill, in fact they

may feel in exuberant health. Yet their exam may show signs of

disease that has no current symptoms. Or, they can come in feeling

quite ill, but the exam fails to find signs of any serious disease.

bG

>

> Tony, bg, If I may...

>

> Once upon a time in 1986 at the NIH I met a young man in his 20's.

HIV positive. He was like me, enrolled in a " trial " or study. The

kid had such positive, upbeat, enthusiastic attitude about life. We

used to meet up about every 2 weeks and chat. One day, after he saw

the doctors, I met him in the hallway. What I saw was a transformed

person. Devastated. All hopes dashed. He said, prior to the

consult that he felt wonderful, full of life. Shocked at the

changed person I had just seen 20 minutes earlier I asked him what

happened to cause such a turnaround in his demeanor.

>

> His answer: " The Doctors told me how I was doing " . Those words

burned forever in my memory. It was then that I became fully aware

of how little doctors actually know about sickness and disease.

>

[Guest guest]

bg, the way I see it is that staying positive is more a matter of life vs death.

I've seen it over and over again. Those I am familiar with who were heavily

influenced (medical backgrounds especially) by Idioallopathic medicine

predilections usually fared so much worse than those who believed in themselves,

their intuition and what their bodies were telling them as opposed to what the

doctors were telling them.

When one becomes familiar with the history of modern medicine one realizes that

the body is a machine of incredible endurance which doctors are only now

becoming familiar with. Unfortunately, the role a " Doctor " also mandates that

confidence, surety and superiority without question be conveyed to the patient.

I made a Glove for my son to use recently. He reported that his strep throat

was made to feel infinitely better. No meds other than CSilver as an adjunct.

The electrical devices being experimented with serve to underscore the enviable

efforts to treat without harm and profiteering and are in support of true

homeostasis...inventions of necessity in spite of such advanced technology

available.

Uninformed, unsuspecting people exposed to radioactive isotope treatment being

told not to worry, yet walking around setting off alarms at airports........Ba

humbug.

baby_grand <no_reply > wrote:

It's a tragic system in the way that information is dished out in an

atmosphere of doom. The symptoms and the signs can be at odds, but

it's important to stay positive, I think, while devising the best

tactics to deal with the disease.

I saw a lecture from UW coll of medicine's " mini-med school " on TV.

Illness is referred to as a subjective feeling that things are not

well. Symptoms reveal illness to us.

A person feels ill, they have symptoms, they come in and an

examination is done possibly with tests to look for any signs of

disease that these symptoms may suggest. They either find such signs

or they don't. Signs are not the same as symptoms. Signs are not

always something a person can feel, but they indicate something's up

nevertheless.

A person can come in for a checkup feeling far from ill, in fact they

may feel in exuberant health. Yet their exam may show signs of

disease that has no current symptoms. Or, they can come in feeling

quite ill, but the exam fails to find signs of any serious disease.

bG

>

> Tony, bg, If I may...

>

> Once upon a time in 1986 at the NIH I met a young man in his 20's.

HIV positive. He was like me, enrolled in a " trial " or study. The

kid had such positive, upbeat, enthusiastic attitude about life. We

used to meet up about every 2 weeks and chat. One day, after he saw

the doctors, I met him in the hallway. What I saw was a transformed

person. Devastated. All hopes dashed. He said, prior to the

consult that he felt wonderful, full of life. Shocked at the

changed person I had just seen 20 minutes earlier I asked him what

happened to cause such a turnaround in his demeanor.

>

> His answer: " The Doctors told me how I was doing " . Those words

burned forever in my memory. It was then that I became fully aware

of how little doctors actually know about sickness and disease.

>

Carol Ann

People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid

of their people.

" V "

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thanks for the report on the strep throat, Carol Ann. I put into our

files so others may benefit.

It's only possible after the medical college research. this is

allopathic and does harm the microbes. if you get the dose wrong it

harms you, like anything else allopathic. People have gotten injuries

with this, especially in the early days. I have three extremely deep

scars from it. Your latest devices won't do that.

bG

>

> I made a Glove for my son to use recently. He reported that his

strep throat was made to feel infinitely better. No meds other than

CSilver as an adjunct.

>

> The electrical devices being experimented with serve to underscore

the enviable efforts to treat without harm and profiteering and are in

support of true homeostasis...inventions of necessity in spite of

such advanced technology available.

[Guest guest]

I've seen enough mistakes by medicine to know that you're right,

also. absolutely. My nursing friend says she'd advise anyone in

the hospital to have someone right there at all times who can check

up on what they're doing. 25 years of experience there!

bG

>

> bg, the way I see it is that staying positive is more a matter of

life vs death. I've seen it over and over again. Those I am

familiar with who were heavily influenced (medical backgrounds

especially) by Idioallopathic medicine predilections usually fared

so much worse than those who believed in themselves, their intuition

and what their bodies were telling them as opposed to what the

doctors were telling them.

>

> When one becomes familiar with the history of modern medicine one

realizes that the body is a machine of incredible endurance which

doctors are only now becoming familiar with. Unfortunately, the

role a " Doctor " also mandates that confidence, surety and

superiority without question be conveyed to the patient.

>

[Guest guest]

bg. The list is involved in making a pilgrimage into areas once taken by the

ancients but before the direct harnessing of the electrical current from

exterior sources. Because of a " technology " theme it's been relegated to the

domain Allopaths and their requirement for " proof " . Unfortunately, in today's

world the results and continued efforts are skewed or compromised by the profit

potential.

The Chinese knew of the the potential and have used the bodies electrical

currents for centuries. Beck began to venture, or stir the pot that stood stale

by once again reviving interest in the healing communities. Today we have TENS,

defibrillators, CES, and a sundry of other devices.....which are nothing but

advanced applications of electrical currents.

IEEE Trans Biomed Eng. 2006 Aug;53(8):1725-6; author reply 1726-7.

Krasteva VT,

Kerkhof PL.

Medical intervention by electrical current as applied to humans or animals may

have tremendous therapeutic impact if delivered while being carefully

controlled. Otherwise, the situation can be harmful in terms of injury or even

become lethal. These consequences demand close inspection of all relevant

biological and technical factors. Regarding methods to counter fibrillation of

the heart substantial progress has been made, but defining a gold standard for

the waveshape and energy delivery remains a serious challenge. The anticipated

answer is not simply a range somewhere between a maximum and a minimum, but most

likely an " intelligently " selected case-specific optimum, delicately positioned

between effective and unsafe. Combining insight from theory with pertinent

experimental findings may offer a clearer view on an unresolved issue that often

points to a cross-road of life and death.

PMID: 16916112 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

baby_grand <no_reply > wrote:

thanks for the report on the strep throat, Carol Ann. I put into our

files so others may benefit.

It's only possible after the medical college research. this is

allopathic and does harm the microbes. if you get the dose wrong it

harms you, like anything else allopathic. People have gotten injuries

with this, especially in the early days. I have three extremely deep

scars from it. Your latest devices won't do that.

bG

>

> I made a Glove for my son to use recently. He reported that his

strep throat was made to feel infinitely better. No meds other than

CSilver as an adjunct.

>

> The electrical devices being experimented with serve to underscore

the enviable efforts to treat without harm and profiteering and are in

support of true homeostasis...inventions of necessity in spite of

such advanced technology available.

Carol Ann

People should not be afraid of their Governments. Governments should be afraid

of their people.

" V "

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In 1985 my Dr. told me " you have hep-c but don't worry about it. By

the time it starts affecting you there will be a cure. " So I

basically forgot about it and lived a normal life. Until 2003 when

my liver got clogged with white blood cells and restricted my blood

flow until my veins in my throat popped. I wasn't supposed to live

through that. Since that time I have had no less than 3 Dr.s sit my

wife down and tell her without a liver transplant I would die. Well,

I'm still here!

The Docs said I was not a good candidate for the shots because of my

blood counts. So they don't offer ANYTHING else. They still want me

to get CT scans and ultrasounds and MRI's and anything else they can

charge for. But they never offer a solution.

The only reason I'm still here is because I treat myself with herbs,

minerals, and small doses of electric. That's why a Group like this

and the feedback we provide is so important. We are our own guinea

pigs and it looks like it's up to us if we want to live!

Good Luck!

> >

> > bg, the way I see it is that staying positive is more a matter

of

> life vs death. I've seen it over and over again. Those I am

> familiar with who were heavily influenced (medical backgrounds

> especially) by Idioallopathic medicine predilections usually fared

> so much worse than those who believed in themselves, their

intuition

> and what their bodies were telling them as opposed to what the

> doctors were telling them.

> >

> > When one becomes familiar with the history of modern medicine

one

> realizes that the body is a machine of incredible endurance which

> doctors are only now becoming familiar with. Unfortunately, the

> role a " Doctor " also mandates that confidence, surety and

> superiority without question be conveyed to the patient.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your replies. :-)

I went to an MD last week to take a look at my back. I had somehow got

two scratches on my back, that I wanted to make sure was not skin

cancer. The MD confirmed that all they are is scabs from a insect bite

or something. But, he wanted to write me a prescription for an anti

biotic just in case. I said " no thank you! "

The older I get the less and less I believe in USA MDs. I forgot more

about nutrition than most of them ever knew. They don't want to

prevent disease, they only want to write prescriptions to mask

symptoms and make people buy meds.

Tony

>

> Tony, bg, If I may...

>

> Once upon a time in 1986 at the NIH I met a young man in his 20's.

HIV positive. He was like me, enrolled in a " trial " or study. The kid

had such positive, upbeat, enthusiastic attitude about life. We used

to meet up about every 2 weeks and chat. One day, after he saw the

doctors, I met him in the hallway. What I saw was a transformed

person. Devastated. All hopes dashed. He said, prior to the consult

that he felt wonderful, full of life. Shocked at the changed person

I had just seen 20 minutes earlier I asked him what happened to cause

such a turnaround in his demeanor.

>

> His answer: " The Doctors told me how I was doing " . Those words

burned forever in my memory. It was then that I became fully aware of

how little doctors actually know about sickness and disease.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Surprising. He didn't culture it for MRSA? Must have been mostly

healed up. If it acts up, runs, etc you might apply godzilla on it

directly.

bG

> >

> > Tony, bg, If I may...

> >

> > Once upon a time in 1986 at the NIH I met a young man in his

20's.

> HIV positive. He was like me, enrolled in a " trial " or study. The

kid

> had such positive, upbeat, enthusiastic attitude about life. We

used

> to meet up about every 2 weeks and chat. One day, after he saw the

> doctors, I met him in the hallway. What I saw was a transformed

> person. Devastated. All hopes dashed. He said, prior to the

consult

> that he felt wonderful, full of life. Shocked at the changed

person

> I had just seen 20 minutes earlier I asked him what happened to

cause

> such a turnaround in his demeanor.

> >

> > His answer: " The Doctors told me how I was doing " . Those words

> burned forever in my memory. It was then that I became fully

aware of

> how little doctors actually know about sickness and disease.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am also using the electricity for my Hep C, as well as a morning

retention enema of CS, urine and DMSO. I can't believe how much better I

feel, how my energy has returned and how the depression has lifted. Even

though things are very high stress at our home this summer with my

husband's stroke and worries about how I can keep our little ranch afloat

and some beans on the table I am doing fine. My ulcerative colitus has

completely disappeared. How much has been helped by which of the above, I

can't say, nor do I really care. We still have a 9th grader at home, and

the goal is to stay well and see her on her way into life.

Nikki

In 1985 my Dr. told me " you have hep-c but don't worry about it. By

the time it starts affecting you there will be a cure. " So I

basically forgot about it and lived a normal life. Until 2003 when

my liver got clogged with white blood cells and restricted my blood

flow until my veins in my throat popped. I wasn't supposed to live

through that. Since that time I have had no less than 3 Dr.s sit my

wife down and tell her without a liver transplant I would die. Well,

I'm still here!

The Docs said I was not a good candidate for the shots because of my

blood counts. So they don't offer ANYTHING else. They still want me

to get CT scans and ultrasounds and MRI's and anything else they can

charge for. But they never offer a solution.

The only reason I'm still here is because I treat myself with herbs,

minerals, and small doses of electric. That's why a Group like this

and the feedback we provide is so important. We are our own guinea

pigs and it looks like it's up to us if we want to live!

Good Luck!

[Guest guest]

WEll for cryin out loud, Nikki, that's just great! I've posted to

our files. keep up good work and do let us know..

by the by, how are you applying it? over the liver itself,

bloodstream or both? (I think both makes the most sense to thwart re-

infection).

bG

>

> I am also using the electricity for my Hep C, as well as a morning

> retention enema of CS, urine and DMSO. I can't believe how much

better I

> feel, how my energy has returned and how the depression has

lifted. Even

> though things are very high stress at our home this summer with my

> husband's stroke and worries about how I can keep our little ranch

afloat

> and some beans on the table I am doing fine. My ulcerative colitus

has

> completely disappeared. How much has been helped by which of the

above, I

> can't say, nor do I really care. We still have a 9th grader at

home, and

> the goal is to stay well and see her on her way into life.

>

> Nikki

>

>

>

>

>

> In 1985 my Dr. told me " you have hep-c but don't worry about it. By

> the time it starts affecting you there will be a cure. " So I

> basically forgot about it and lived a normal life. Until 2003 when

> my liver got clogged with white blood cells and restricted my blood

> flow until my veins in my throat popped. I wasn't supposed to live

> through that. Since that time I have had no less than 3 Dr.s sit my

> wife down and tell her without a liver transplant I would die.

Well,

> I'm still here!

> The Docs said I was not a good candidate for the shots because of

my

> blood counts. So they don't offer ANYTHING else. They still want me

> to get CT scans and ultrasounds and MRI's and anything else they

can

> charge for. But they never offer a solution.

> The only reason I'm still here is because I treat myself with

herbs,

> minerals, and small doses of electric. That's why a Group like this

> and the feedback we provide is so important. We are our own guinea

> pigs and it looks like it's up to us if we want to live!

> Good Luck!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am doing both. Kill it, I say.kill it DEAD!

Nikki

WEll for cryin out loud, Nikki, that's just great! I've posted to

our files. keep up good work and do let us know..

by the by, how are you applying it? over the liver itself,

bloodstream or both? (I think both makes the most sense to thwart re-

infection).

bG

>

> I am also using the electricity for my Hep C, as well as a morning

> retention enema of CS, urine and DMSO. I can't believe how much

better I

> feel, how my energy has returned and how the depression has

lifted. Even

> though things are very high stress at our home this summer with my

> husband's stroke and worries about how I can keep our little ranch

afloat

> and some beans on the table I am doing fine. My ulcerative colitus

has

> completely disappeared. How much has been helped by which of the

above, I

> can't say, nor do I really care. We still have a 9th grader at

home, and

> the goal is to stay well and see her on her way into life.

>

> Nikki

>

>

>

>

>

> In 1985 my Dr. told me " you have hep-c but don't worry about it. By

> the time it starts affecting you there will be a cure. " So I

> basically forgot about it and lived a normal life. Until 2003 when

> my liver got clogged with white blood cells and restricted my blood

> flow until my veins in my throat popped. I wasn't supposed to live

> through that. Since that time I have had no less than 3 Dr.s sit my

> wife down and tell her without a liver transplant I would die.

Well,

> I'm still here!

> The Docs said I was not a good candidate for the shots because of

my

> blood counts. So they don't offer ANYTHING else. They still want me

> to get CT scans and ultrasounds and MRI's and anything else they

can

> charge for. But they never offer a solution.

> The only reason I'm still here is because I treat myself with

herbs,

> minerals, and small doses of electric. That's why a Group like this

> and the feedback we provide is so important. We are our own guinea

> pigs and it looks like it's up to us if we want to live!

> Good Luck!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

wonderful, i posted that info to the files..way to go. we also want

that germ dead.

This is the first clear hep-c report we have, using it on both the

blood and the liver, as I've asked you to try for about 2 years now.

is there anyone else using it both on blood and liver for hep-C? I

don't care what else you are also doing along with it. Report,

please whatever is going on, symptoms, numbers if any, etc.

bG

> >

> > I am also using the electricity for my Hep C, as well as a

morning

> > retention enema of CS, urine and DMSO. I can't believe how much

> better I

> > feel, how my energy has returned and how the depression has

> lifted. Even

> > though things are very high stress at our home this summer with

my

> > husband's stroke and worries about how I can keep our little

ranch

> afloat

> > and some beans on the table I am doing fine. My ulcerative

colitus

> has

> > completely disappeared. How much has been helped by which of the

> above, I

> > can't say, nor do I really care. We still have a 9th grader at

> home, and

> > the goal is to stay well and see her on her way into life.

> >

> > Nikki

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In 1985 my Dr. told me " you have hep-c but don't worry about it.

By

> > the time it starts affecting you there will be a cure. " So I

> > basically forgot about it and lived a normal life. Until 2003

when

> > my liver got clogged with white blood cells and restricted my

blood

> > flow until my veins in my throat popped. I wasn't supposed to

live

> > through that. Since that time I have had no less than 3 Dr.s sit

my

> > wife down and tell her without a liver transplant I would die.

> Well,

> > I'm still here!

> > The Docs said I was not a good candidate for the shots because

of

> my

> > blood counts. So they don't offer ANYTHING else. They still want

me

> > to get CT scans and ultrasounds and MRI's and anything else they

> can

> > charge for. But they never offer a solution.

> > The only reason I'm still here is because I treat myself with

> herbs,

> > minerals, and small doses of electric. That's why a Group like

this

> > and the feedback we provide is so important. We are our own

guinea

> > pigs and it looks like it's up to us if we want to live!

> > Good Luck!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

....i post here about a month ago when i first signed up about about my

trying colloidal silver on HCV. now after about a month it seems to be

kicking in, at least symptoms-wise: much improved. only occasional liver

area ache, more energy, & liver functioning might be better as indicated by

percentage of turds sinking rather than all floating in the bowl. no blood

tests for a few years, never had a biopsy, will probably do that this

winter.

i've only been reading about other things while doing the CS. i've read

into the files/photos on both lists but it's all kind of a vague jumble

still but ...

now i plan to build a basic godzilla & maybe an auto model later. i believe

i want current control & auto polarity switching. i kind of like the idea of

the beck machine's 4hz switching... is that too fast for current thinking of

you godzilla experimentors? what voltage is the output of the beck machine

that bG's schematic would build? i saw the auto-zilla art/schematic stuff

but it struck me as incomplete to work from....i think it appears that the

drawings might not print clearly enough. i saw a parts list for a machine

that doeasn't seem to have an associated schematic around???

how do you guys feel about Rife-zapping in conjunction with godzilla

attacks? maybe simultaneously. i'm stuck in cheap mode, so godzilla comes

first, & then looking to put together a rife-plasma ball machine from Ken

Uzzells designs.

i'm hoping to combine effectively:

microcurrents

rife via radiant & electrodes

CSilver

nutrition- organic foods + supplements (mostly antioxidants & probiotics)

herbs

ozone water

i do hate the idea of giving up garlic. i already had to give up whiskey

with cigars & pot. sex has been a bad memory for a long time.

politics/history is depressing, religion makes me confused & since 2001

kinda nauseous & enraged, poverty is scary.... anybody have a schematic for

a cheap d.i.y. electroshock (ect) device? i have a golf club that i

sometimes wave around overhead during thunderstorms but haven't had any

luck.

> Hep-C

>

>

> The usual measures for Hep-C include the enzymes and viral load.

> They can be useful (they do them, anyway), but there's anomalies in

> Hep-C that make it hard to say exactly what is going on.

>

> Doing a liver biopsy reveals the condition of the liver and monitors

> the progress of the disease best. Tests have come back showing good

> numbers in viral load and enzymes, yet the liver is clogged up and

> damaged by white blood cells. Nobody seems to know why this would be

> so.

>

> Biopsies are painful, and intrusive. Blood tests are more usual,

> but, as it seems to offer only a rough idea, you cannot go by them

> totally.

>

> I hope the Hep-C people will find this useful. If combined with

> other things it might prove beneficial. But Hep-C is really a hard

> one. Culturing outside the body does not seem to work. Lab studies

> can only be done with humans and chimps. That gets expensive and

> slow. The drugs have improved over the years, but still don't fully

> address it for everyone, only about 25-50%, and some cannot stand the

> side effects so that may be out for them.

>

> I'm not sure what to suggest for it except use it on the liver and

> bloodstream both at same time.

>

> bG

>

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