Re: Wire and Battery - the name

[Guest guest]

The semantics of Ziller/zilling seem optimum. bob

Re: Re: Wire and Battery - the name

> Ziller might be more acceptable to the wider world community. There could

> be cultural barriers to coarser terms in many places, including in the

First

> World. Ziller already exists as an accepted term; when I first heard

about

> it in an understandable way it was through Duncan Crow, either in a post

> somewhere or on his site, referring to " zilling " . When elsewhere I had

> read someone saying they had built a Godzilla it meant absolutely nothing

to

> me. Sounded like some complicated device I could never aspire to.

>

> The name Godzilla could also raise cultural questions or concerns. But

> Ziller and zilling is inoffensive, lends itself to serious minded

discussion

> and experimentation, and is just a " name " as opposed to a descriptor.

>

> Butt Kicker might be a US phrase familiar in places exposed to US

> vocabulary, but is not an international term and doesn't really say what

it

> does; it's jargon or slang more than language. It could conjure up

pictures

> of men in camouflage and helmets with backpacks, which from the point of

> view of combatting germs might be appropriate but is a bit localised to

one

> culture. It might raise unnecessary visions of violence that many

> communities have had quite enough of already.

>

> If GermKiller is off the list, I would go with Ziller and zilling.

>

> Rowena

>

>

>

> Battery Butt Kicker hmmm would go like this:

>

> " My 6 volt battery kicks butt. I wired it up to an infection and it

> kicked its butt. "

>

> I like it, what's the feeling on this?

>

> bG

>

>

>

> FOR " HOW-T0 " PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU.

>

> This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical advice. All info is

free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you agree to hold

harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you

find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in

your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this

might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck

researching. --bG

>

[Guest guest]

The semantics of Ziller/zilling seem optimum. bob

Re: Re: Wire and Battery - the name

> Ziller might be more acceptable to the wider world community. There could

> be cultural barriers to coarser terms in many places, including in the

First

> World. Ziller already exists as an accepted term; when I first heard

about

> it in an understandable way it was through Duncan Crow, either in a post

> somewhere or on his site, referring to " zilling " . When elsewhere I had

> read someone saying they had built a Godzilla it meant absolutely nothing

to

> me. Sounded like some complicated device I could never aspire to.

>

> The name Godzilla could also raise cultural questions or concerns. But

> Ziller and zilling is inoffensive, lends itself to serious minded

discussion

> and experimentation, and is just a " name " as opposed to a descriptor.

>

> Butt Kicker might be a US phrase familiar in places exposed to US

> vocabulary, but is not an international term and doesn't really say what

it

> does; it's jargon or slang more than language. It could conjure up

pictures

> of men in camouflage and helmets with backpacks, which from the point of

> view of combatting germs might be appropriate but is a bit localised to

one

> culture. It might raise unnecessary visions of violence that many

> communities have had quite enough of already.

>

> If GermKiller is off the list, I would go with Ziller and zilling.

>

> Rowena

>

>

>

> Battery Butt Kicker hmmm would go like this:

>

> " My 6 volt battery kicks butt. I wired it up to an infection and it

> kicked its butt. "

>

> I like it, what's the feeling on this?

>

> bG

>

>

>

> FOR " HOW-T0 " PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU.

>

> This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical advice. All info is

free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you agree to hold

harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you

find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in

your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this

might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck

researching. --bG

>

[Guest guest]

The name BG says it all in several ways :

Battery operated microele///.. Germ killer.

Bloody Good.

Battery and wire.. Gee it works

Feel free to add some more.

Tony

On 13 Oct 2006 at 3:27, baby_grand wrote about :

Subject : Re: Wi

> Dick, that's exactly correct, tells it.

> But...when I talk it up I notice people get excited then they really

> strain to remember and have to write it down, etc.

> BatteryButtKicker is that easier than ?

> I'm not sure. Battery what?

>

> It does what? kills germs. ok, germkiller. lots of things do that,

> why are we different? we use electricity. Electricity? Like the

> power company? No, a tiny current, millionths of an ampere.

> microelectricity.

>

> .

>

> Those were my thoughts when creating that name.

>

> Microsoft was also a weird name at first. It is accurate to

> describe software for microcomputers, which is what MS makes.

> I think people appreciate simplicity and ease of use up to a point.

> But people like to have learned something new intellectually.

> Humans are surprisingly intellectual. The computer revolution is an

> intellectual mastery of a thought-extending device. It's like

> learning to use a telescope, a sewing machine, or drive a car. Part

> of it is the skill you gain, part the work it does for you.

>

> Annoying as MS software can be, once you do get it, you feel a sense

> of understanding and skill, because your confusions usually stem

> from the product having an engineering surface still exposed to the

> user. If you can master that, you will have gained something of a

> skill or ability in the mastery of a powerful new tool..quite aside

> from whatever it was you were trying to get the computer to do in

> the first place.

>

> bG

>

>

> > >

> > > Battery But Kicker? :-)

> > >

> > > Samala

> > >

> > > -------Original Message-------

> > > Battery-and-wire is about the best I can come up with...it's

> > accurate,

> > > Non-assertive, and instructive to the potential users.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

The name BG says it all in several ways :

Battery operated microele///.. Germ killer.

Bloody Good.

Battery and wire.. Gee it works

Feel free to add some more.

Tony

On 13 Oct 2006 at 3:27, baby_grand wrote about :

Subject : Re: Wi

> Dick, that's exactly correct, tells it.

> But...when I talk it up I notice people get excited then they really

> strain to remember and have to write it down, etc.

> BatteryButtKicker is that easier than ?

> I'm not sure. Battery what?

>

> It does what? kills germs. ok, germkiller. lots of things do that,

> why are we different? we use electricity. Electricity? Like the

> power company? No, a tiny current, millionths of an ampere.

> microelectricity.

>

> .

>

> Those were my thoughts when creating that name.

>

> Microsoft was also a weird name at first. It is accurate to

> describe software for microcomputers, which is what MS makes.

> I think people appreciate simplicity and ease of use up to a point.

> But people like to have learned something new intellectually.

> Humans are surprisingly intellectual. The computer revolution is an

> intellectual mastery of a thought-extending device. It's like

> learning to use a telescope, a sewing machine, or drive a car. Part

> of it is the skill you gain, part the work it does for you.

>

> Annoying as MS software can be, once you do get it, you feel a sense

> of understanding and skill, because your confusions usually stem

> from the product having an engineering surface still exposed to the

> user. If you can master that, you will have gained something of a

> skill or ability in the mastery of a powerful new tool..quite aside

> from whatever it was you were trying to get the computer to do in

> the first place.

>

> bG

>

>

> > >

> > > Battery But Kicker? :-)

> > >

> > > Samala

> > >

> > > -------Original Message-------

> > > Battery-and-wire is about the best I can come up with...it's

> > accurate,

> > > Non-assertive, and instructive to the potential users.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------------------------------------------------

> -----------

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.

> > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date:

> 10/11/2006

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The FDA enforces laws about interstate commerce of medical devices and

medical cures. The moderator of this list is not engaged in interstate

commerce of any kind, has nothing to sell to anyone and nothing to

fear from the FDA. The FDA's only interest would be if this list were

being used as a front to advertise or sell a product and it isn't. My

understanding is that anyone can make any medical claims they want,

wherever they want. He or she can cite cures by psychic surgeons,bear

witness to tumors eliminated by ufo's, any damn thing as long as he or

she isn't selling anything. If you know of any case(s) where the FDA

has prosecuted a non-commercial exercise of these first amendment

rights please let me know.

I've always referred to the thing as a bio-electric device. I agree

than microelectric is better as an adjective than microelectricity.

Unless I knew someone very well I'd hesitate to use any variation of

" butt kicking " in speaking to someone looking for help with a

life-threatening illness. It lacks, shall we say, gravitas.

All the best,

Beggs

>

> WHOA!!!!

>

> Be very careful of saying Germ Killer. The FDA will jump on you in a

heart beat, fine you and can confiscate your property. They(?) have a

cadre of people watching the Internet for what they call

" non-approved " " cures " .

>

>