Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Nucleus body worn processor uses either disposable OR rechargable AA batteries. Both are readily available most stores. Nucleus BTE uses ONLY disposable hearing aid type 675 (but need high power) batteries. I much prefer this, I can go about 4 days on a set of 3 batteries. Very easy to travel with this setup. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* I took an IQ test, and the results were negative. & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ rechargeable battery So Nucleus have rechargeable battery now? di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Why do the batteries in a CI only last a few days when ha wears might get a week or more out of theirs? rechargeable battery > > > So Nucleus have rechargeable battery now? > > di > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 In a message dated 5/18/2004 11:45:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, tinabir@... writes: Why do the batteries in a CI only last a few days when ha wears might get a week or more out of theirs? CI and hearing aids work two different ways, the CI requires more power, therfore shorter time. lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 If that is the case, why don't hearing aid makers make them work more like the ci in terms of them giving a broader range in what you can hear like the way the ci does. I just think it's cool that you can get in to the mild range with it and I think I remember when they first came out you might be able to hear sounds, but not nearly what people on this list seem to do. I know, it's not normal hearing which I'm sure they won't figure out how to fully give in my life time, but hopefully technology keeps getting better and cheaper. I saw a Sears ad a few days ago ffor glasses where you got 2 pair for one i think so with my employee discount that would make them cheaper but I thought why can't they do that for aids. You still i think haveto be fitted for them and doesn't someone still haveto test your vision? I couldn't just go to walgreens and buy glasses even if i could use them. Cheaper aids would get them more in the hands of the people who need them because i can't tell you how many people i talk with daily who if they aren't using aids and i'm sure some aren't, could really use them. It's frustratig even for me and i have a hearing loss too. Sometimes I Want to say something but of course i can't. Re: rechargeable battery > Tina, > The CI does a great deal more than HA's do. But some people, > for example, can go a month..... Errrr, never mind, I will let > tell you. I feel myself getting in a punny mood and its late. > LOL > > ? > > *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* > " If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. " > --Al Gore > & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) > Portland, Oregon > N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup > rlclark77@... > http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Tina, The CI and HA solve very different problems. The HA only amplifies and enhances what remaining frequency capability the ear has. The normal frequency range is like a rainbow, bands of color. In the ear, its bands of frequency from low to high. The HA cannot fill in what is missing, it can only amplify and enhance sound using what is left. The CI restores much of that because it is not dependent on what is left. It bypasses the outer and middle ear completely and sends the signals directly to the auditory nerve. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* My mind not only wanders, it sometimes leaves completely. & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Tina, The problem is that hearing aids have to use your cochlea. The inherent limitations of that, plus the need for an acoustic seal of the earmold means that, unlike a CI, not everyone can get " mapped " to a specific threshold. In other words, with a CI, the prevailing opinion seems to be that if you can hear sounds as quiet as 25 to 30 dB, you'll have access to enough of conversational speech and enough environmental sounds without bringing in too much unhelpful noise to function. Then, they adjust the amount of current in your map so that you can perceive that sound levels. Assuming you don't have problems that limit the amount of current you can tolerate, this seems to work pretty well. Of course hearing the sounds and discriminating them is the big variable. With hearing aids, this simply can't happen. So while hearing aids will continue to improve, once a person loses a certain percentage of their inner hair cells, the CI will always give them better thresholds. As both CI and hearing aid technologies continue to change, that cut off will probably also change. ____________________________________________ Best Regards, Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA Editor EDEN - The Electronic Deaf Education Network www.bradingrao.com e-mail: info@... Re: rechargeable battery If that is the case, why don't hearing aid makers make them work more like the ci in terms of them giving a broader range in what you can hear like the way the ci does. I just think it's cool that you can get in to the mild range with it and I think I remember when they first came out you might be able to hear sounds, but not nearly what people on this list seem to do. I know, it's not normal hearing which I'm sure they won't figure out how to fully give in my life time, but hopefully technology keeps getting better and cheaper. I saw a Sears ad a few days ago ffor glasses where you got 2 pair for one i think so with my employee discount that would make them cheaper but I thought why can't they do that for aids. You still i think haveto be fitted for them and doesn't someone still haveto test your vision? I couldn't just go to walgreens and buy glasses even if i could use them. Cheaper aids would get them more in the hands of the people who need them because i can't tell you how many people i talk with daily who if they aren't using aids and i'm sure some aren't, could really use them. It's frustratig even for me and i have a hearing loss too. Sometimes I Want to say something but of course i can't. Re: rechargeable battery > Tina, > The CI does a great deal more than HA's do. But some people, > for example, can go a month..... Errrr, never mind, I will let > tell you. I feel myself getting in a punny mood and its late. > LOL > > ? > > *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* > " If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. " > --Al Gore > & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) > Portland, Oregon > N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup > rlclark77@... > http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 I think you mean auditory brain stem implant. ABI send signals directly to the audtiory nerve. The CI send signals to the cochlea. So without the cochlea, the CI will not work. Regards/ Jerome Re: rechargeable battery Tina, The CI and HA solve very different problems. The HA only amplifies and enhances what remaining frequency capability the ear has. The normal frequency range is like a rainbow, bands of color. In the ear, its bands of frequency from low to high. The HA cannot fill in what is missing, it can only amplify and enhance sound using what is left. The CI restores much of that because it is not dependent on what is left. It bypasses the outer and middle ear completely and sends the signals directly to the auditory nerve. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* My mind not only wanders, it sometimes leaves completely. & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Jerome, Yes and no. The CI accesses the auditory nerve by sending current through the bony stalk of the cochlea called the Modiolus. The tube of the cochlea that houses the Organ of Corti and (now defunct) hair cells (scala media) is functioning as a container for the electrode array. Since the cochlear fluid is electro-conductive, being in close proximity to the inner wall of the Modiolus is essentially being plugged into the nerve. With curved electrodes and petitioners, part or all of the electrode may actually be in contact with the wall, so the transmission is more efficient. The thickness of the wall, any abnormal ossification, etc will alter the impedance and will result in different T levels, but when all is said and done, the electrode array is providing electrical stimulation to the auditory nerve " directly " ____________________________________________ Best Regards, Brad Ingrao, M.S.Ed. CCC-A, FAAA Editor EDEN - The Electronic Deaf Education Network www.bradingrao.com e-mail: info@... Re: rechargeable battery Tina, The CI and HA solve very different problems. The HA only amplifies and enhances what remaining frequency capability the ear has. The normal frequency range is like a rainbow, bands of color. In the ear, its bands of frequency from low to high. The HA cannot fill in what is missing, it can only amplify and enhance sound using what is left. The CI restores much of that because it is not dependent on what is left. It bypasses the outer and middle ear completely and sends the signals directly to the auditory nerve. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* My mind not only wanders, it sometimes leaves completely. & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Jerome, No, not talking about the ABI. There is a point where we dont need to get overly techie about the devices. While there is nothing wrong with being knowledgeable about one's anatomy, it suffices to explain things in layman terms. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* I couldn't fix your brakes, so I made your horn LOUDER! & Gimlet (Guide Dawggie) Portland, Oregon N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup rlclark77@... http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Hi. Yes that will work about the same. Keep the sum of the voltages between 3.5 and 6.0 volts and you should hit the sweet spot. The sizes of batteries only affect how long they last, not the power levels. Even the tiny button batteries stacked up will work, but for how long before you need new ones or to recharge them. I use 3 AAA's in a small plastic holder for the wrists, and I use two at once, one on each wrist. They are rechargeable NiMH's, so they rarely need recharging. It's about 3.6 volts and is ideal for me. My skin never seems to get irritated with it. Your results could vary. Each person's a bit different, that's why 3.6 to 6.0 covers a wide range of people (and animals for that matter). You'll have fun, I can just tell. bG > > > > Hi bG! I just want to ask if I could use four AA's Ni-MH 1700mAh and > higher mAh or Ni-Cadmium 700 mAh and higher mAh rechargeable batteries > for Gutzilla? Thanks > > Mau > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Ok bG thanks a lot for the advice. Now I can work on my Gutzilla. I will update you on my progress. -Mau > > > > > > > > Hi bG! I just want to ask if I could use four AA's Ni-MH 1700mAh and > > higher mAh or Ni-Cadmium 700 mAh and higher mAh rechargeable > batteries > > for Gutzilla? Thanks > > > > Mau > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Hi, You will find NiCads are better for gutzilla, as they have much lower self discharge compared to NiMh MM ====================== maujm07 wrote: > Hi bG! I just want to ask if I could use four AA's Ni-MH 1700mAh and > higher mAh or Ni-Cadmium 700 mAh and higher mAh rechargeable batteries > for Gutzilla? Thanks > > Mau > > > > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. See FILES menu for instructions and test results. > > By joining you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, and good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Hi, You will find NiCads are better for gutzilla, as they have much lower self discharge compared to NiMh MM ====================== maujm07 wrote: > Hi bG! I just want to ask if I could use four AA's Ni-MH 1700mAh and > higher mAh or Ni-Cadmium 700 mAh and higher mAh rechargeable batteries > for Gutzilla? Thanks > > Mau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Hi MM, thanks for the information. I will try NiCads coz it's much cheaper than the NiMh. Mau > > Hi bG! I just want to ask if I could use four AA's Ni-MH 1700mAh and > > higher mAh or Ni-Cadmium 700 mAh and higher mAh rechargeable batteries > > for Gutzilla? Thanks > > > > Mau > > > > > > > > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. See FILES menu for instructions and test results. > > > > By joining you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, and good luck researching. --bG > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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