Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 I've just completed the paddles and they turned out great. However, on this my first pair, for myself, the sponges are sligthtly touching each other and I would like to know what if any, could/would the negative consquences be regarding their effectivness. I am planning on making more sets to give as Christmas presents. Thanks! Regards, Carol Ann ~ Reign of The Mayberry Machiavellis ends in 2008. --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Hi Joe, Good thinking; To get pt to drink water for electronic purposes. Is that 1/5 microamp (one fifth) or 1 to 5 microamp? Which seems very low indeed Further down you say " not exceed 0.2 milliamp per square inch area for skin safety. " Which is much lower than my advised max. arrived at by personal experience. 1mA/ " ^2. Joe, And are there available references to your statement about the microcurrent and ATP and free radicals? And " BLS measurement blood sample - won't squeeze out well. " ? what does that mean please? The Centre OFF switch idea is so bright. Will change my circuit to be like that. Wondered why the Hulda type circuits didn't sting as much as the Beck at same sort of power levels and frequencies. Thanks. Hmm, By taking a lot of dilute colloidal silver, a friend got rid of Raynaud in fingers, blue black and v painful. they were going to amputate the tip of one finger, and within a week of starting CS, her fingers were pink and warm again. I thought it was the silver but maybe it was the extra water intake. I also got her to " milk " her fingers which would have increased circulation. A good one for blood agglomeration is to continuously wear a magnet near a pulse point, ie on chest or wrist or groin. the magnet apparently gets the bloods cells magnetically polarised and they jump apart for a moment, then don't stick together so much because of fluids intruding between the cells. Regards, Tony On 9 Dec 2006 at 21:49, Joe wrote about : Subject : Re: Question for bg <big snip> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 nil. not to worry. slight contact is high-resistance contact and not much current will flow across it. good on making them as gifts. I plan to do the same. Nice unique gift that keeps on giving. happy holidays! bg > > I've just completed the paddles and they turned out great. However, on this my first pair, for myself, the sponges are sligthtly touching each other and I would like to know what if any, could/would the negative consquences be regarding their effectivness. > > I am planning on making more sets to give as Christmas presents. > > Thanks! > > > Regards, Carol Ann ~ > Reign of The Mayberry Machiavellis ends in 2008. > > --------------------------------- > Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 and don't be surprised if they let loose a bag of maggots onto your gangrene for you...things you could get from the garbage...but let them do it, okay? I just have to laugh at paying a " maggot bill " !! wow bG > > gangrene could be helped if the germs get limited by the current > from the apprentice godzilla paddles or similar. If the infection > is under control and removed then the dead tissue would need to be > dealt with...this is an area doctors can help a lot, and with our > devices I think the chances might be improved to save a limb or a > life, etc. but I'd think both std medicine and this adjunct would be > wise to choose. > > bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 It shouldn't matter much if at all the sponges are at the same electrical level (voltage) Re: Question for bg I've just completed the paddles and they turned out great. However, on this my first pair, for myself, the sponges are sligthtly touching each other and I would like to know what if any, could/would the negative consquences be regarding their effectivness. I am planning on making more sets to give as Christmas presents. Thanks! Regards, Carol Ann ~ Reign of The Mayberry Machiavellis ends in 2008. --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 > > Hi Joe, > > Good thinking; To get pt to drink water for electronic purposes. > > Is that 1/5 microamp (one fifth) or 1 to 5 microamp? Which seems very low indeed > That's a typo - s / b 0.5 uA, mine are set to 5/8 microamp. > Further down you say " not exceed 0.2 milliamp per square inch area for skin safety. " > Which is much lower than my advised max. arrived at by personal experience. 1mA/ " ^2. > Gets me the ability to go 12 hrs continuous current & still use the same site next day. > Joe, And are there available references to your statement about the microcurrent and ATP > and free radicals? > Yes, was buried in the files of the microcurrentfor diabetic ulcers ... site. Study done by Australians. > And " BLS measurement blood sample - won't squeeze out well. " ? what does that mean > please? > When you do daily BLS samples you soon notice when the blood is thicker. Take a baby aspirin a day to thin the blood. Have had live blood analyses that show red cells stacked together which reduces the surface area for O2 absorption in lungs. Thinner blood allows more surface available; will then go thru capillaries better, pt looks pinker. > The Centre OFF switch idea is so bright. Will change my circuit to be like that. Wondered > why the Hulda type circuits didn't sting as much as the Beck at same sort of power > levels and frequencies. Thanks. > > Hmm, By taking a lot of dilute colloidal silver, a friend got rid of Raynaud in fingers, blue > black and v painful. they were going to amputate the tip of one finger, and within a week of > starting CS, her fingers were pink and warm again. I thought it was the silver but maybe it > was the extra water intake. I also got her to " milk " her fingers which would have increased > circulation. > Aspirin does it quicker. Joe. > A good one for blood agglomeration is to continuously wear a magnet near a pulse point, ie > on chest or wrist or groin. the magnet apparently gets the bloods cells magnetically polarised > and they jump apart for a moment, then don't stick together so much because of fluids > intruding between the cells. > > Regards, > Tony > > On 9 Dec 2006 at 21:49, Joe wrote about : > > Subject : Re: Question for bg > > <big snip> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 i read all that somewhere also, no idea where though. cheers, bobL myspace: http://www.myspace.com/bob021147 ebay: http://stores.ebay.com/bobLs-fine-flotsam homepage: http://www.toad.net/~blarson/ > Re: Re: Question for bg > > > I remember reading that long time, unhealing, diabetic ulcers > were healed with microcurrents and that the dead flesh did not > need to be abraided. It was either reabsorbed by the body or was > restored to living flesh. And I think I read that the same thing > happened with Hobo or brown recluse spider bites. No personal experience. > > Dick > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Dick....now you mention it.......did you hear anything back from Mike at healingdiabeticulcers group?...............i built your unit you designed for the free flow of electrons.....it`s a really good unit and i use it often...............i have got those plans saved but i didn`t save anything else from the group files......wish i had now.............did you save any other files from the group?....................the new design Mike was talking about sounded great and i was looking forward to using it..........still seems mighty strange the way the group just ended!!!.... > > I remember reading that long time, unhealing, diabetic ulcers were healed with microcurrents and that the dead flesh did not need to be abraided. It was either reabsorbed by the body or was restored to living flesh. And I think I read that the same thing happened with Hobo or brown recluse spider bites. No personal experience. > > Dick > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Dick....now you mention it.......did you hear anything back from Mike at healingdiabeticulcers group?...............i built your unit you designed for the free flow of electrons.....it`s a really good unit and i use it often...............i have got those plans saved but i didn`t save anything else from the group files......wish i had now.............did you save any other files from the group?....................the new design Mike was talking about sounded great and i was looking forward to using it..........still seems mighty strange the way the group just ended!!!.... > > I remember reading that long time, unhealing, diabetic ulcers were healed with microcurrents and that the dead flesh did not need to be abraided. It was either reabsorbed by the body or was restored to living flesh. And I think I read that the same thing happened with Hobo or brown recluse spider bites. No personal experience. > > Dick > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 That's what my recluse bite did. Nikki > > I remember reading that long time, unhealing, diabetic ulcers > were healed with microcurrents and that the dead flesh did not > need to be abraided. It was either reabsorbed by the body or was > restored to living flesh. And I think I read that the same thing > happened with Hobo or brown recluse spider bites. No personal experience. > > Dick > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 That's what my recluse bite did. Nikki > > I remember reading that long time, unhealing, diabetic ulcers > were healed with microcurrents and that the dead flesh did not > need to be abraided. It was either reabsorbed by the body or was > restored to living flesh. And I think I read that the same thing > happened with Hobo or brown recluse spider bites. No personal experience. > > Dick > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Nikki, Did you have any medical treatment or just microcurrent? Did you take photos of the wound and/or healed area? How long did you need to use the current? Please share for the files. Dick RE: Re: Question for bg That's what my recluse bite did. Nikki > > I remember reading that long time, unhealing, diabetic ulcers > were healed with microcurrents and that the dead flesh did not > need to be abraided. It was either reabsorbed by the body or was > restored to living flesh. And I think I read that the same thing > happened with Hobo or brown recluse spider bites. No personal experience. > > Dick > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 Nikki, Did you have any medical treatment or just microcurrent? Did you take photos of the wound and/or healed area? How long did you need to use the current? Please share for the files. Dick RE: Re: Question for bg That's what my recluse bite did. Nikki > > I remember reading that long time, unhealing, diabetic ulcers > were healed with microcurrents and that the dead flesh did not > need to be abraided. It was either reabsorbed by the body or was > restored to living flesh. And I think I read that the same thing > happened with Hobo or brown recluse spider bites. No personal experience. > > Dick > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 Hiya, Nikki I just added your note below to your file on the bite. Good to know it's all permanent and long-term. Group, see what I mean? If you EVER used the device we need the long- term update. " still fine " or " came back " whatever...it really puts the finishing touches to the doubts about it..period. bG > > Hi Dick > > > > I'm in the files already. I used nothing but microcurrent. It took me > several weeks. I ended up without even a scar. But I sure had to fight off > the well-meaning who drove me nuts telling me that I just MUST have it cut > open. I had checked with the entomology department at UCLA and they do not > recommend cutting them at all. So I began the microcurrent. It worked > great. I must tell, though, that my bite was on a finger, not on a fatty > area like the abdomen. It might take much longer in that case. > > > > Nikki > > > > > > Did you have any medical treatment or just microcurrent? Did you take photos > of the wound and/or healed area? How long did you need to use the current? > Please share for the files. > > Dick > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Hey! Ya. You should send him to this list, yes, si, oui, affirmative. This could help a lot with AIDS. HIV is a hidden virus and we don't yet know how to completely rid someone of it. However, and this is big: we can reduce and remove some or all of the opportunistic infections that come with it. AIDS would be the target, the person would still have HIV but it would not be life-threatening anymore if using godzilla would be my guess. It would need some learning curve but it could be just the ticket for AIDS and Malaria. Using blood electrification and also treating local infections like colds and such with direct electrodes on the area itself would assure many or most or even eyeryone, that they would live, not die. As I understand this, HIV is the virus that precipitates the long slide into immune deficiency syndrome: AIDS. It attacks CD4 blood cells resulting in low immunity. So every cold is a killer for someone with AIDS. The godzilla device can help out and keep the person less the effect of random infections. That could save their lives immdediately. With repeated use, they get healthier from there. Where it ends, nobody knows and we have to find that out. But they could end up healthier than we are in the USA, theoretically, if using godzilla on a regular basis to remove germs. HIV numbers may improve, too. But AIDS is the thing already tested and proven adequately to warrant further investigation. AIDS will improve, we know that. HIV is then a matter of a pest, a stigma, etc. Many people take the drugs for HIV and just put up with it. The side effects are not nice, but they do it or die. Godzilla would probably be better, but HIV by itself without AIDS is not enough to really motivate people to turn to Godzilla, unfortunately so it sits there. But AIDS is another story. Beck did AIDS, not HIV. He said that HIV numbers may or may not improve with this. Torlage of SOTA instruments did the same thing: AIDS study in 8 patients, they all got well. Their HIV numbers were variable, but the CD4 count fell then rose, and that is more important than the HIV viral load. CD4 cells kill infections, you need those. They fell at first, then they rose. The fall was due to infected CD4 cells lysing (die off) and only the healthy ones remained to be counted. Then their numbers began to rise again. This is an awesome outcome, and shows the validity. My main point is forget anything but saving the lives of AIDS victims. HIV eradication is not likely here, but Godzilla could be better than the drugs used for AIDS now. There are no drugs for just " HIV " . They don't usually give you those until you get AIDS, and your immune system is shot. The drugs keep you alive, in other words. WELL, so would Godzilla, we think, and it's a lot cheaper and probably a lot safer. Plus you can really avoid the pitfalls, alllergic reactions, mutations, etc. So, yeah, I think I would have to agree if you think they should come here. bG > > Hey. On the oleander list I'm on, there's a man that is trying to help the > people in Uganda with HIV and aids. They have no money for buying things. > I am sending oleander seeds so they can grow this bush (it's anti- cancer and > is reported to kill off HIV and HEP) and they are already growing seeds of > sutherlandia, which is an African anti-cancer herb. Someone is sending them > instructions on building CS machines, though the silver will be hard for > them to come buy. > > I remember you talking about using a car battery and being able to hook lots > of people up to it at one time. Would this work for HIV/AIDS/Cancer? If so > do you want me to send the man who is working with the ministry in Uganda > to this list? > > I know you were working on a whole body unit for HIV (I think it was HIV?) > but don't know if this would be doable for them, and can't remember if you > said the car battery would work for this. > > Samala, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Ok, will pass this message on to my " friend " . I'm sure he'll be excited. You must know, though, that he praises God for everything and sprinkles his posts with this about a dozen times. :-) Samala, -------Original Message------- Ya. You should send him to this list, yes, si, oui, affirmative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 If he follows through with me on this, and does some actual work on it, I will too. Prayer without works is nothing. I will work directly to engineer a solution for the car-battery or whatever else is needed to get this done. > > Ok, will pass this message on to my " friend " . I'm sure he'll be excited. > You must know, though, that he praises God for everything and sprinkles his > posts with this about a dozen times. :-) > > Samala, > > > -------Original Message------- > > > Ya. You should send him to this list, yes, si, oui, affirmative. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 > > If he follows through with me on this, and does some actual work on > it, I will too. Prayer without works is nothing. > > I will work directly to engineer a solution for the car-battery or > whatever else is needed to get this done. > Engineering has been done. Write me offline; can send a pile of stuff. Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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