Re: liver cancer?

September 28, 2006

Hi,

I have Hep C, and am starting to have high bile readings. I have

tried the electric to my liver area, but it causes pain, so I think

it may be too much right now, and have stopped. I do use electric

for cuts, and foot fungus on my family, and it works great. This may

be off topic, but I find castor oil pack are soothing and seem to

take the liver inflammation down. I do the packs three days in a

row, and then take a break. I have read that Vit K is good and

helps prevent liver cancer. I would have a consult with a doctor,

natural or otherwise, and start doing lots of research. Since, the

liver is already compromised small of whatever you decide is

prudent. I have read stories of people coming back from near death

from Hep C. Think positive, live, love, and alkalize.

> > > >

> > > > ...my liver ache is back, but not quite as much as before.

too

> > > bad, i was

> > > > really impressed with it disappearing all of a suddden.

> > > > did you do the silver for an extended period regularly at

a pretty

> > > high

> > > > dosage? the one guy i've been yakkin with that says it's

working

> > > great for

> > > > him says it took him over a month to really drop the viral

load.

> > > > i'm wondering about if i keep myself loaded up with ionic

colloidal

> > > silver &

> > > > put electric currents through my body will that tend to

cause the

> > > silver to

> > > > react more with various things forming unpredictable &

undesirable

> > > > compounds? is there any tendency known for the electric

currents

> > > to divert,

> > > > disrupt, alter, or destroy the desired actions of other

> > > pharmacology?

> > > > interferon & the various other drugs it's used together

with really

> > > have a

> > > > lousy success rate but there's new stuff around the corner

(2-5 yrs

> > > > maybe?)i've read about showing great promise for being

both a whole

> > > lot less

> > > > miserable to take & actually doing the job of clearing the

virus

> > > once & for

> > > > all.

> > > >

> > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > >

> > >

> > > FOR " HOW-T0 " PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU.

> > >

> > > This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical advice.

All

> > > info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing,

you

> > > agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

> > > damages from anything you find here whether jointly,

severally,

> > > or individually. We are interested in your results, but

cannot

> > > say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have

> > > medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck

> > > researching. --bG

> > >

September 28, 2006

sorry to hear the current causes pain. We've all just been

referring to how it " eases pain " apparently not in this case.

Have you tried the electricity on bloodstream? like an electrode on

each wrist artery? you have to go easy as the current can be harsh

from a 6 volt battery on some skins. It's good to use some extra

cloth or a bit of wet cloth between the battery and one wire contact

to add some resistance that way and tone it down. It may be killing

off germs and causing dieoffs in the liver, or it could be making

gas or something that causes you pressure building and so pain.

reversing current often could help that, but it might not. the beck

type electrifier with 4 hertz frequency (sota instruments, silver

pulser i think they call it) might work using pads on liver. I

can't recommend it for bloodstream as with hep-c it failed after a

year to reduce count below 2 million, then we used the dc battery

thing and got it down 99 percent in 15 weeks. YMMV.

bG

> > > > >

> > > > > ...my liver ache is back, but not quite as much as

before.

> too

> > > > bad, i was

> > > > > really impressed with it disappearing all of a suddden.

> > > > > did you do the silver for an extended period regularly

at

> a pretty

> > > > high

> > > > > dosage? the one guy i've been yakkin with that says it's

> working

> > > > great for

> > > > > him says it took him over a month to really drop the

viral

> load.

> > > > > i'm wondering about if i keep myself loaded up with

ionic

> colloidal

> > > > silver &

> > > > > put electric currents through my body will that tend to

> cause the

> > > > silver to

> > > > > react more with various things forming unpredictable &

> undesirable

> > > > > compounds? is there any tendency known for the electric

> currents

> > > > to divert,

> > > > > disrupt, alter, or destroy the desired actions of other

> > > > pharmacology?

> > > > > interferon & the various other drugs it's used together

> with really

> > > > have a

> > > > > lousy success rate but there's new stuff around the

corner

> (2-5 yrs

> > > > > maybe?)i've read about showing great promise for being

> both a whole

> > > > lot less

> > > > > miserable to take & actually doing the job of clearing

the

> virus

> > > > once & for

> > > > > all.

> > > > >

> > > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > FOR " HOW-T0 " PLANS, GO TO THE GROUP WEBPAGE, PHOTOS MENU.

> > > >

> > > > This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

advice.

> All

> > > > info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing,

> you

> > > > agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator,

from

> > > > damages from anything you find here whether jointly,

> severally,

> > > > or individually. We are interested in your results, but

> cannot

> > > > say anything about repeatability, or whether this might

have

> > > > medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck

> > > > researching. --bG

> > > >

September 28, 2006

Bob,

Yes hep-c has been ruled out. Biopsy and transplant are out of the question.

We only go to MDs for help in diagnosis or trauma. They excell in those. We

are purly alternative for everything else.

Thank you for your interest and your suggestions.

Ray

liver cancer?

is her cirrhosis related to progression of hep-C ? has that been ruled out?

whatever, it appears it's time to see a hepatologist & if the doc suggests

get a biopsy or whatever to test for the cancer. a transplant can be

September 29, 2006

bg,

It is not that the 6V battery causes me pain with the current, but

after I used it for several nights, I woke up with liver and

gallbladder pain, yes, I can feel my liver, or at least the

inflammed musculature around my liver. I believe it was just too

strong for me at this time. I am using numerous avenues to fight my

virus, and have been successfull at decreasing my VL by 55% in the

last 8 months while keeping my liver panel WNL.

Where I live electricity is used quite a bit in the hospitals,

primarily for pain management especially in the birthing units.

I use the Beck Protocol, and I really like using CS. For a while it

was the only thing that would alkalize my body. I have added mag

pulsing which has helped, and ozonated water. The one I am not sure

about is the silver pulser. I will try the 6V again after I have my

next VL and liver panel test done, but will take it slow with 1-2

minutes directed at the liver area. I was using 10 minutes before.

I believe in going natural and here we do not need a prescription

for lab tests and most drugs. I just walk in and ask for what I

need, but I do go to doctors of Eastern and Western medicine, and

absorb the information. To really sit down and talk to someone with

knowledge of biochemistry is beneficial. In the States it is either

one or the other, which is sad, because the primary objective is to

treat the patient using whatever methods deemed necessary. I will

let you know my results.

>

> Bob,

> Yes hep-c has been ruled out. Biopsy and transplant are out of

the question. We only go to MDs for help in diagnosis or trauma.

They excell in those. We are purly alternative for everything else.

> Thank you for your interest and your suggestions.

> Ray

>

> liver cancer?

>

> is her cirrhosis related to progression of hep-C ? has that been

ruled out?

> whatever, it appears it's time to see a hepatologist & if the

doc suggests

> get a biopsy or whatever to test for the cancer. a transplant

can be

>

September 29, 2006

Hi. Hope you don't mind me sending this to you, but it's all non-electric

so figured I shouldn't put it on the micro1 list and didn't know if you were

a member of micro 2 list. Well, if it was me, I'd start with alkalizing my

body--read the PH Miracle book (forget the author at the moment) for ways to

cheaply do that. Then--colon cleanse first so that the colon is open and

able to carry away the toxins from the liver cleanse that I'd do next. All

the while supporting the liver with liver herbs, of which there are many,

but the best is FRESHLY ground milk thistle seed. You just buy a pound or

so of milk thistle seed from someone like www.mountainrose.Com or www

pacificbotanicals.Com and put them in a little coffee grinder (that you can

get for about $20 in walmart or target), grind up enough for a couple of

days and sprinkle it on salads, in your juice, over anything. It's just

crunchy--not much flavor. Dr. Schulze www.herbdoc.Com has stated many times

that doing a lot of liver cleanses while supporting the body (via colon

cleanses, vegetarian life style, exercise, fresh air, etc) has taken people

off the transplant list. He gets these results all the time. And, if you

are on our other, non-electric list (2) where I just posted about colored

light therapy, I'd be putting the color on the liver too. Oh, and also,

doing castor oil packs over the liver are a GREAT benefit.

Good luck. And I totally applaud you for going wholistic because having to

take the anti-rejection medicine all her life has its own set of problems.

Samala

September 29, 2006

I'm so sorry this got posted here. I KNOW I deleted the group addy and put

in the private email addy but I just got a new version of my email program

and it's really been screwing things up. I apologize.

Samala

-------Original Message-------

Hi. Hope you don't mind me sending this to you, but it's all non-electric

so figured I shouldn't put it on the micro1 list and didn't know if you were

a member of micro 2 list.

September 29, 2006

My son was diagnosed with " fatty liver " , and was told that it indicated the

decline of the liver for which there was not known medical cure. Eventually it

would change to cirrhosis. He began milk thistle capules and the next time he

was checked the doc said, " the previous diagnosis must have been wrong. No sign

of fatty liver. "

Dick