Re: electricity and snake bites

[Guest guest]

really cool! Shows you that the proteins in the venom are affected

by the electric currents. Many reports of electric fences clearing

bites and things go along with this very graphic one.

REMINDER: 6 VOLTS is also available by using 4 1.5 volt cells of any

size, AA, AAA, C, D (whatever happened to A, B sizes?)

bG

>

> Oh, I wanted to report on something I just learned at a lecture.

The man

> who was speaking got into alternative health devices because his

daughter

> got cancer. She got cured with various vitamins, devices like Rife

and

> SCENAR technology. He was talking to a group of us about various

devices

> and he brought out a little stun gun. He said it was set for

voltage

> especially for spider and snake bites, which is weaker than the

regular stun

> gun charge. It came with little wires you could attach because for

some

> bites the solidly placed rods would be too far away from the wound,

so you

> could place the wire electrodes close to the wound. He said for

the snake

> bite you are suppose to put the electrodes directly on the bites,

and for

> spiders you put it next to the bite. He said these units cost $100.

>

> But what I wanted to report about was that he said that he got bit

on the

> finger by a copperhead snake. He caught the snake and took it in

so they'd

> be able to id it. They told him they'd have to cut off his finger,

and he'd

> probably also loose his hand and maybe even some of his arm, and

because it

> had taken him some time to get to the ER they didn't want to use

snake

> anti-venom because they told him that had its own set of health

concerns.

> He told them no way--he'd begun taking enzymes (from a company he

believes

> in) AND started using the stun gun on the bite. He said he did

this every

> hour on the hour, and within 24 hours his finger was perfectly

normal--not

> even red or hot.

>

> I told him about our 6volt battery. The only advantage I could see

in his

> unit is that it's small and very portable compared to the 6volt.

It's

> actually just pocket sized, BUT it does cost $100 and ours cost

less than 5

> bucks. He said he carried a unit with him in his car, in the case

he took

> with him whenever he spoke, in both his home and office. We should

do the

> same thing, even if the 6v is bigger--that way, like boy scouts, we

are

> always prepared. The only time I could see where spending the

money on one

> of the pocket stunners would be that if you were going out hunting

or

> camping and wouldn't be around your car, and didn't want to

backpack the big

> 6v battery.

>

> samala

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh wait--so when we make the wrist units, we are capable of getting the same

6volts? duh--that just never " clicked " before with me. lol Thanks!! (course,

I made the wrist unit with 3 aa's cause it fits my wrist better than 4, so I

m not quite at the 6v, but it's a good thing to finally realize.)

samala

-------Original Message-------

REMINDER: 6 VOLTS is also available by using 4 1.5 volt cells of any

size, AA, AAA, C, D (whatever happened to A, B sizes?)

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

I read your post with interest. I have been trying to locate a source

for these stun guns. I live in the Sierra Mountains in California in

the middle of lots of rattlesnakes. I would like to have a stun gun

for my animals who occasionally have an altercation with a

rattlesnake. Hopefully you have or can obtain a source for the device.

It is difficult to use Godzilla on my German Shepherd, for instance.

jacksson

>

> Oh, I wanted to report on something I just learned at a lecture.

The man

> who was speaking got into alternative health devices because his

daughter

> got cancer. She got cured with various vitamins, devices like Rife and

> SCENAR technology. He was talking to a group of us about various

devices

> and he brought out a little stun gun. He said it was set for voltage

> especially for spider and snake bites, which is weaker than the

regular stun

> gun charge. It came with little wires you could attach because for some

> bites the solidly placed rods would be too far away from the wound,

so you

> could place the wire electrodes close to the wound. He said for the

snake

> bite you are suppose to put the electrodes directly on the bites,

and for

> spiders you put it next to the bite. He said these units cost $100.

>

> But what I wanted to report about was that he said that he got bit

on the

> finger by a copperhead snake. He caught the snake and took it in so

they'd

> be able to id it. They told him they'd have to cut off his finger,

and he'd

> probably also loose his hand and maybe even some of his arm, and

because it

> had taken him some time to get to the ER they didn't want to use snake

> anti-venom because they told him that had its own set of health

concerns.

> He told them no way--he'd begun taking enzymes (from a company he

believes

> in) AND started using the stun gun on the bite. He said he did this

every

> hour on the hour, and within 24 hours his finger was perfectly

normal--not

> even red or hot.

>

> I told him about our 6volt battery. The only advantage I could see

in his

> unit is that it's small and very portable compared to the 6volt. It's

> actually just pocket sized, BUT it does cost $100 and ours cost less

than 5

> bucks. He said he carried a unit with him in his car, in the case

he took

> with him whenever he spoke, in both his home and office. We should

do the

> same thing, even if the 6v is bigger--that way, like boy scouts, we are

> always prepared. The only time I could see where spending the money

on one

> of the pocket stunners would be that if you were going out hunting or

> camping and wouldn't be around your car, and didn't want to backpack

the big

> 6v battery.

>

> samala

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have the man's number here somewhere. Give me a day to dig it out.

It would be great to have for the animals if you were all out on a walk.

The guy sells them, but he couldn't remember the name brand! lol He was not

really there to sell anything, just to give us a demonstration of the SCENAR

and Rife equipment, but then he got talking about all the other goodies he

had.

samala

-------Original Message-------

Hello ,

I read your post with interest. I have been trying to locate a source

for these stun guns. I live in the Sierra Mountains in California in

the middle of lots of rattlesnakes. I would like to have a stun gun

for my animals who occasionally have an altercation with a

rattlesnake. Hopefully you have or can obtain a source for the device.

It is difficult to use Godzilla on my German Shepherd, for instance.

jacksson

[Guest guest]

From what I remember reading years ago about electricity on snake

bites, you need high voltage(about 10,000 volts) low amperage. The

electricity actually causes a chemical change in the venom rendering it

safe(er). I've removed the piezo ignitors from old dead electronic

cigarette lighters and effectively used them on bee stings. I imagine

that a grill ignitor would be more powerful and easier to use than a

sparker from a lighter.I have no idea if the lower voltage of a battery

would have the same effect as high voltage, but I'd be very interested

to find out.

If you're out hunting and get bit by a snake and you can make it back to

your car.... just pull off one of the spark plug wires, start the car,

and apply the arc directly to the bite for a few seconds. It hurts like

hell but it wont kill you.

[Guest guest]

I have made this 4x1.5v microelectricty germ killer. I have a terrible flu, can

I use it in this case, if yes, where do I put the wires.

Re: electricity and snake bites

really cool! Shows you that the proteins in the venom are affected

by the electric currents. Many reports of electric fences clearing

bites and things go along with this very graphic one.

REMINDER: 6 VOLTS is also available by using 4 1.5 volt cells of any

size, AA, AAA, C, D (whatever happened to A, B sizes?)

bG

>

> Oh, I wanted to report on something I just learned at a lecture.

The man

> who was speaking got into alternative health devices because his

daughter

> got cancer. She got cured with various vitamins, devices like Rife

and

> SCENAR technology. He was talking to a group of us about various

devices

> and he brought out a little stun gun. He said it was set for

voltage

> especially for spider and snake bites, which is weaker than the

regular stun

> gun charge. It came with little wires you could attach because for

some

> bites the solidly placed rods would be too far away from the wound,

so you

> could place the wire electrodes close to the wound. He said for

the snake

> bite you are suppose to put the electrodes directly on the bites,

and for

> spiders you put it next to the bite. He said these units cost $100.

>

> But what I wanted to report about was that he said that he got bit

on the

> finger by a copperhead snake. He caught the snake and took it in

so they'd

> be able to id it. They told him they'd have to cut off his finger,

and he'd

> probably also loose his hand and maybe even some of his arm, and

because it

> had taken him some time to get to the ER they didn't want to use

snake

> anti-venom because they told him that had its own set of health

concerns.

> He told them no way--he'd begun taking enzymes (from a company he

believes

> in) AND started using the stun gun on the bite. He said he did

this every

> hour on the hour, and within 24 hours his finger was perfectly

normal--not

> even red or hot.

>

> I told him about our 6volt battery. The only advantage I could see

in his

> unit is that it's small and very portable compared to the 6volt.

It's

> actually just pocket sized, BUT it does cost $100 and ours cost

less than 5

> bucks. He said he carried a unit with him in his car, in the case

he took

> with him whenever he spoke, in both his home and office. We should

do the

> same thing, even if the 6v is bigger--that way, like boy scouts, we

are

> always prepared. The only time I could see where spending the

money on one

> of the pocket stunners would be that if you were going out hunting

or

> camping and wouldn't be around your car, and didn't want to

backpack the big

> 6v battery.

>

> samala

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you carry jumper cables you can use the 12 volts from battery,

just be sure away from heart and head, should be fine. what have

you to lose? a wetted cloth can be interposed to lower the volts a

bit. I think perhaps people introuble used these things and now

they think high volts are required, but they may not be...I don't

know. Bee stings, brown recluse bites and mosquito bites all are in

our files. go look.

bG

>

> From what I remember reading years ago about electricity on snake

> bites, you need high voltage(about 10,000 volts) low amperage. The

> electricity actually causes a chemical change in the venom

rendering it

> safe(er). I've removed the piezo ignitors from old dead electronic

> cigarette lighters and effectively used them on bee stings. I

imagine

> that a grill ignitor would be more powerful and easier to use than

a

> sparker from a lighter.I have no idea if the lower voltage of a

battery

> would have the same effect as high voltage, but I'd be very

interested

> to find out.

> If you're out hunting and get bit by a snake and you can make it

back to

> your car.... just pull off one of the spark plug wires, start the

car,

> and apply the arc directly to the bite for a few seconds. It hurts

like

> hell but it wont kill you.

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I had been musing only last night, looking at a catalogue for car

products, that a couple of jumper leads connected to our 6v battery, with

whatever electrode a person wanted, or none, just a wet cloth around the

clip, should be one way to use the Godzilla theory in the field. The Enar

device uses a 9 v battery, and that can be used for bites, so surely a 12 v

battery should not be absolutely necessary (unless there is no other on

hand)?

Rowena

[Guest guest]

Hi--Sooooo sorry this has taken so long for me to find the info, but I lost

it, and had to call around and find out who had what. Anyway, here's the

info on where to get the snake bite stun guns. The phone number is a day

time number only, and included is his email. I just talked to his wife and

she said that he can still get the stun guns, and she wasn't sure of the

price, but I remember him stating that they were around $100. His name is

Gene

Barrewards@...

1-713-453-8374 phone--Gene

$100

Samala

-------Original Message-------

Hello ,

I read your post with interest. I have been trying to locate a source

For these stun guns. I live in the Sierra Mountains in California in

The middle of lots of rattlesnakes. I would like to have a stun gun

For my animals who occasionally have an altercation with a

Rattlesnake. Hopefully you have or can obtain a source for the device.

It is difficult to use Godzilla on my German Shepherd, for instance.