Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Early on I had my doubts that plain DC current (no pulsing) would be as effective or more so then pulsing DC. I then read that people were saying that the pulsed DC units were said to be more effective if you increase the on time (duty cycle) to 75% or more. I did increase mine to 80% and it does seem to be more effective. I am still not totally convinced yet but straight DC current may very well be better. > > If you have joined this group, maybe awhile ago, you may not yet know > what Apprentice Godzilla is. > > We have simplified our lives by using just a 6 volt battery available > at most drugstores or supermarkets, and a piece of wire. That's it, > no more to it. > > For a photo, click here: > / > > What you are seeing is SO simple there's no reason why anyone would > hesitate to have one onhand for any research project imaginable. > > It's taken a long time to discard the unecessary and arrive at this > solution for people who have no means (not just financial, but > skills) to build devices. This is not really a " device " at all. It > is just a piece of wire you attach to a battery!!! > > Some of you may want reminders about it, so I will send out the > message about Apprentice Godzilla every month or so. I'm usually at > the group site, so I see things, while you may be relying on email > alone to communicate with the group and give/receive information. > > Apprentice Godzilla design allows you to make a few sets of wires, > maybe one set with only a little cloth wrapped on the ends. Another > set can be wrapped with more cloth, to lower the power output for > delicate skin, like the facial area. You will find out a lot by > getting one of these batteries and a wire, and simply hooking it up. > > Hope that helps, > bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Yeah, marty so did i. It seems so wussy. yet, the docs at Einstein College of Medicine did NOT feel that way about it. After years, i decided to give their way a try. Fortunately for all of us, the DC provides as good if not MUCH better results. You should reverse it though. You have to consider the formula proposed by the doctors based on their studies: current x time = results A pulsed DC current is off some of the time. The pulses have nothing to do with the effects on virus, which should come as no surprise, since they are so tiny. However, the corrosive effects of DC are legendary, time-dependent, and current dependent. You have one small hurdle in addition: the concept of current " density " meaning how much current over how much area. ..3mA is about the limit to most skin's ability to stand current. If you apply that over an area that's 5 " round, like a hepatitis- infected liver, it's going to have a slower effect than over an area of 1 " round, like an infected finger. Then, there's the density of the virus in the area. A herpes sore is very dense (I think) in virus, hence the eruption of skin. So, applying .3mA for 1 minute may not be enough, even though the area is tiny, only 1/3 " or so, usually, per sore. This is " advanced " thinking, but it's really quite intuitive--once you grab the battery, sit down of an evening, and relax a bit your whole life thereafter, knowing what you now know. You can fix things anywhere. you can use half lemons and pennies and nails to make batteries if you have to...makes a nicer life. bG > > > > If you have joined this group, maybe awhile ago, you may not yet > know > > what Apprentice Godzilla is. > > > > We have simplified our lives by using just a 6 volt battery > available > > at most drugstores or supermarkets, and a piece of wire. That's > it, > > no more to it. > > > > For a photo, click here: > > / > > > > What you are seeing is SO simple there's no reason why anyone > would > > hesitate to have one onhand for any research project imaginable. > > > > It's taken a long time to discard the unecessary and arrive at > this > > solution for people who have no means (not just financial, but > > skills) to build devices. This is not really a " device " at all. > It > > is just a piece of wire you attach to a battery!!! > > > > Some of you may want reminders about it, so I will send out the > > message about Apprentice Godzilla every month or so. I'm usually > at > > the group site, so I see things, while you may be relying on email > > alone to communicate with the group and give/receive information. > > > > Apprentice Godzilla design allows you to make a few sets of wires, > > maybe one set with only a little cloth wrapped on the ends. > Another > > set can be wrapped with more cloth, to lower the power output for > > delicate skin, like the facial area. You will find out a lot by > > getting one of these batteries and a wire, and simply hooking it > up. > > > > Hope that helps, > > bG > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Hi, . So, when you say duty cycle of 80%, do you mean it is on 80% of the time and off 20%? If so, how long is a cycle? How many times per second, or what is the frequency? And how do you accomplish this? What kind of timer? In the beginning of this forum we experimented with many frequencies, starting with Beck's 4 Hz, then adding 16 Hz and 100 Hz. Also 's 30K Hz and the more recent 2K Hz. In the end we found that straight DC seemed to be the most effective; relieved the most health problems, and was the most simple to construct and use. I don't remember experimenting with duty cycles, though, except when we were discussing the Crock device and Magnetic Pulsers, which have since broken away into separate forums. Thanks, Dick Re: Apprentice Godzilla > Early on I had my doubts that plain DC current (no pulsing) would be > as effective or more so then pulsing DC. I then read that people > were saying that the pulsed DC units were said to be more effective > if you increase the on time (duty cycle) to 75% or more. I did > increase mine to 80% and it does seem to be more effective. I am > still not totally convinced yet but straight DC current may very > well be better. > > > > >> >> If you have joined this group, maybe awhile ago, you may not yet > know >> what Apprentice Godzilla is. >> >> We have simplified our lives by using just a 6 volt battery > available >> at most drugstores or supermarkets, and a piece of wire. That's > it, >> no more to it. >> >> For a photo, click here: >> / >> >> What you are seeing is SO simple there's no reason why anyone > would >> hesitate to have one onhand for any research project imaginable. >> >> It's taken a long time to discard the unecessary and arrive at > this >> solution for people who have no means (not just financial, but >> skills) to build devices. This is not really a " device " at all. > It >> is just a piece of wire you attach to a battery!!! >> >> Some of you may want reminders about it, so I will send out the >> message about Apprentice Godzilla every month or so. I'm usually > at >> the group site, so I see things, while you may be relying on email >> alone to communicate with the group and give/receive information. >> >> Apprentice Godzilla design allows you to make a few sets of wires, >> maybe one set with only a little cloth wrapped on the ends. > Another >> set can be wrapped with more cloth, to lower the power output for >> delicate skin, like the facial area. You will find out a lot by >> getting one of these batteries and a wire, and simply hooking it > up. >> >> Hope that helps, >> bG >> > > > > > > > > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla > devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical > advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, > you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages > from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. > We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about > repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for > your understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Rush: I attended a talk given by Bob Beck. The title was How to cure HIV in 21 days. That may have been 20 years ago. Basically, what he said was to use an electrical device with electrodes at the wrist to electrify the blood, to drink colloidal silver, and then to use a pulser. Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2006 Report Share Posted March 29, 2006 Probably about 10 years ago. AIDS patients did well with his technique. HIV numbers did not always stably improve, though the symptoms went away in all cases. No small achievement! HIV, the underlying virus is harder to get rid of fully. It can be done, but why worry, nobody even reports on it anymore here. The drugs are apparently good enough that folks with HIV are just on them, hoping for the best. I have no idea what they must think of this. It's not certain that HIV meds will fix everyone forever, tho, they have their limitations. bG > > Rush: > > I attended a talk given by Bob Beck. The title was How to cure HIV in 21 > days. That may have been 20 years ago. Basically, what he said was to use an > electrical device with electrodes at the wrist to electrify the blood, to > drink colloidal silver, and then to use a pulser. > > Jill > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 built my apprentice, 6v battery and a spdt switch to change polarity. almost a year of good use and am still getting 5.7 volts lead to leads. the current is fine for use on a arthritic knee joint, but is a little high for use around the " personal parts " . bought a five pack of 4.7k ohm resistors from radio shack. put the first one in one leg, and tested the current, still 5.7 volts. put another 4.7k in the other lead, and still get 5.7 volts. what am i missing here. shouldn't the voltage be dropped with the two resistors in line??? thanks, jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Why don't you use a potentiometer (variable resistor)? 50k might be good or even 100k. I think I'm using a 50 k and it works well. I don't think your using enough resistance. So you have a prostate problem, how did you plan to apply the pads? I haven't tried that yet. I have been applying the pads inside the legs high up as I can get them without one interfering with the other thinking the current would get to the prostate that way. Jack Apprentice Godzilla built my apprentice, 6v battery and a spdt switch to change polarity. almost a year of good use and am still getting 5.7 volts lead to leads. the current is fine for use on a arthritic knee joint, but is a little high for use around the " personal parts " . bought a five pack of 4.7k ohm resistors from radio shack. put the first one in one leg, and tested the current, still 5.7 volts. put another 4.7k in the other lead, and still get 5.7 volts. what am i missing here. shouldn't the voltage be dropped with the two resistors in line??? thanks, jim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/406 - Release Date: 8/2/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Why don't you use a potentiometer (variable resistor)? 50k might be good or even 100k. I think I'm using a 50 k and it works well. I don't think your using enough resistance. So you have a prostate problem, how did you plan to apply the pads? I haven't tried that yet. I have been applying the pads inside the legs high up as I can get them without one interfering with the other thinking the current would get to the prostate that way. Jack Apprentice Godzilla built my apprentice, 6v battery and a spdt switch to change polarity. almost a year of good use and am still getting 5.7 volts lead to leads. the current is fine for use on a arthritic knee joint, but is a little high for use around the " personal parts " . bought a five pack of 4.7k ohm resistors from radio shack. put the first one in one leg, and tested the current, still 5.7 volts. put another 4.7k in the other lead, and still get 5.7 volts. what am i missing here. shouldn't the voltage be dropped with the two resistors in line??? thanks, jim -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/406 - Release Date: 8/2/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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