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Hi Jill,

Could you define " VD " and let me know where you read about this mega-dosing?

It's very interesting, considering the results I did have with Doxy.

Two things: One, a " loading " dose is supposed to be used for the first three

days that equates to almost, or exactly, half the dose you refer to below (I

can't recall the exact mgs, but it's similar). Point being, fat absorption.

And, that makes it that much more intriguing.

And two, I'm wondering what kind of side effects.

I'm seeing my doctor tomorrow, so if you have that study by any chance, it'd

be hugely helpful in allowing she and I to determine the best approach with the

Doxy if it comes to it.

I spent time with an " intuitive " doctor recently in a last-ditch effort to get

more help. I've never sought help from someone like this before. What was

incredible, was that he was 95% accurate with everything he revealed. I

purposely set something up to see if he would read it accurately, and he did,

more than once. What I'm getting at: He insisted I have mycoplasma. And, he

found it right in all my trouble spots without knowing a thing about me. It

amazed me.

So altho I haven't sent a specimen off to one of the four or so labs that

exist in this country to test for it, all signs and indications now point

towards it being cell-wall-deficient bacteria, likely in the form of mycoplasms.

Antibiotics initially made the problem an absolute hell. Lo/behold, when

cutivating mycoplasms in the lab, they USE ANTIBIOTICS TO FEED THEM!!!

You can't imagine how angry I was when I learned THAT. Levequin seems to have

been the sole cause of a now ten months of pain and suffering, and the doctors

had no clue how or why.

Thanks for your time, it's greatly appreciated. You can't imagine what this

discomfort feels like, be thankful you don't have a prostate and testicles! If

you have a link to that study, it will be hugely helpful.

Tim

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I recently read that the dosage of doxycycline for mycoplasma is 6/100 mg. a

day for ten full days. Apparently at this dose (the " VD " dose) one may have

side effects. But those with proven cases of mycoplasma infection (proven

from laboratory tests extremely hard to do and locate) have experienced their

symptoms simply vanishing after this ten-day dose.

Jill

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Hi Tim:

So sorry you are suffering. I will get this information to you right away.

If you have any further questions, let me know.

By VD, I meant venereal disease. Apparently the dosage suggested of

doxycycline is higher for VD than for some other conditions, such as common

bladder

infection.

I verified the suggested dose of doxycycline from the report. It is six 100

mg. capsules daily for ten days. Yes, this is higher than the normal dose,

but mycoplasma are hard to kill. Some of them reproduce cyclically, and just

when you think they are gone, they return a week or so later if the

medication wasn't strong enough, or wasn't taken long enough.

This information came from a report I ordered after looking for information

on bladder infection in the articles section of _www.mercola.com_

(http://www.mercola.com) . I am very impressed with Dr. Mercola. The products

he offers

are top notch, as is the information and research backing them. He also

doesn't push you to purchase these products from him, but suggests other places

to buy them from first. That really grabs my attention. Anyway, he has

about 70,000 articles you can access from his web site. Don't just go to the

web

from his site, stick with searching through mercola.com because these are

articles and products he has reviewed and recommends. You might find something

on mycoplasma and its treatment in these files.

Anyway, I have had a problem with recurrent bladder infections for many

years. I looked up this subject among Mercola's articles, and found a series

of

e-books by Kilmartin, a lady who suffered for many years with bladder

infections, lost her marriage, career, had numerous surgeries, all to no

avail, and then finally figured out how to help herself. She dedicated her

life

to helping other people with the same problems. Doctors can't help much. I

ordered her four e-books for around $39. One of these, The Interstitial

Cystitis Solution says that with all those people who have this disease, it has

been confirmed to be caused by mycoplasma (such as M. genitalis, M.hominis or

M.urealyticum). She gives instructions on preparing the specimen for

culture. Apparently it must be given at the lab because after one hour the

mycoplasma die. So if you want proof you have this organism you must locate a

lab

that does this study, make an appointment to have your specimen looked at

immediately, and go there to give the specimen right before the appointment

time,

given in the appropriate way (see the book). Or, you might just decide to

take the dosage she recommends without the lab confirmation of diagnosis.

says many people do this because they are unable to locate a laboratory

to do the culture. You said there were only four labs in the " this country

which test for mycoplasma " . (Would you please give me the contact information

and locations for these if you have them?). She is in England, and patients

from the US fly to be treated by her. There are several horror tales in her

books about women suffering for years and unable to receive help. They fly

to England, have a culture done (the only lab in England that does this work),

and then they are treated. On page 21 she mentions that men with

prostatitis get infections with mycoplasma. Sorry, I am a little confused as

to the

exact organisms she talks about. You might want to order this ebook and read

it for yourself. She says doxycycline can cause nausea unless you take it

with a meal. Keep your stomach full with food or liquid when any nausea

starts.

Eating well helps a lot because doxycycline is not an easy antibiotic to

digest or be absorbed. Also, six capsules a day is a heavy dose. She does say

that some people are uncomfortable for the ten days while on this regimen,

but after it is complete, their symptoms of 20 years or so just miraculously

vanish!

I think that the report you would want to order is this one on interstitial

cystitis. It also discusses men with prostatitis caused by mycoplasma, how

to obtain the culture, and how to treat it. Doxycycline should be taken at

the full 6-per-day dose, for the full ten days for complete relief. I

believe you can order this ebook from _www.TheInterstitialCystitisSolution.com_

(http://www.TheInterstitialCystitisSolution.com) , by Kilmartin (2006).

Another web address would be _http://www.utisolution.com_

(http://www.utisolution.com) .

I myself have used psychics as medical intuitives. Sounds like you have

yourself a really good one. If you want information about the two that I use

(for everything under the sun, with excellent results), email me privately at

_grace1way@..._ (mailto:grace1way@...) , and make sure the subject is

clear so I don't delete you mail. I will send you an attachment with

information on how to contact these psychics. You can ask them virtually

anything.

They are very accurate, charge very little, are very fast, and very ethical.

Sure hope this helps you,

Jill

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Hi Jill,

You asked me about labs that test for it. When I mentioned " four or so " it

was based on second-hand knowledge, but I do know of one absolutely for

sure...had a trusted friend confirm it for me via an email direct with the

doctor.

His name is Garth Nichols, I may be mispelling his last name, but he's at:

www.immed.org

and he's long studied microbiology with much focus on mycoplasma. The

symptoms cover a wide range, and remain this " mystery " (not) to standard western

medicine (no doubt *only* because it's not tested for!).

Yes, I'm very familiar with Dr. Mercola, have spent many many hours there in

the past year; discovered him last summer when all these problems started.

Two things: One, my particular infection was not, in all likelyhood, caused by

sexual transmission. I've been celebate for 19 years.

And two, I've actually gotten some degree of consistant relief using Semento,

a " TOA-free " derivative of the cat's claw herb. It comes from a root or bark of

a tree. Altho I'm no where near recovered, I'm impressed with what it's doing

so far, and most importantly, is giving fairly consistant results. It is said

to deal with the cell-wall-deficient bacteria, hence its effect on mycoplasma.

If I recall right, a " d-mannose " or similar, at Dr. Mercola's, is a sugar

product used successfully in Europe for urinary tract infections.

I am familiar with the IC thing; since I've had this, I've learned about how

women deal with IC, use DMSO for it, and do see it as the counterpart to what I

have, as the amount of suffering seems to be about equal.

It angers me that mycoplasmas seem to be a big part of biological warfare.

That makes me seriously question what's happened to me, and how it may've

happened.

Please feel free to stay in touch. I will be seeing my urologist today and

going over this mega-dosing of Doxy protocol with her. Up to date, I've been

teaching HER everything (she admitted this) as I'm her " second worst patient. "

I never dreamt in a million years I'd get stuck with such a horrible

" condition. " I am absolutely determined at this point to do whatever it takes

to get better. A couple weeks of Doxy, I believe, may finally do the trick.

Stay in touch............................T

grace1way@... wrote:

Hi Tim:

So sorry you are suffering. I will get this information to you right away.

If you have any further questions, let me know.

By VD, I meant venereal disease. Apparently the dosage suggested of

doxycycline is higher for VD than for some other conditions, such as common

bladder

infection.

I verified the suggested dose of doxycycline from the report. It is six 100

mg. capsules daily for ten days. Yes, this is higher than the normal dose,

but mycoplasma are hard to kill. Some of them reproduce cyclically, and just

when you think they are gone, they return a week or so later if the

medication wasn't strong enough, or wasn't taken long enough.

This information came from a report I ordered after looking for information

on bladder infection in the articles section of _www.mercola.com_

(http://www.mercola.com) . I am very impressed with Dr. Mercola. The products

he offers

are top notch, as is the information and research backing them. He also

doesn't push you to purchase these products from him, but suggests other places

to buy them from first. That really grabs my attention. Anyway, he has

about 70,000 articles you can access from his web site. Don't just go to the

web

from his site, stick with searching through mercola.com because these are

articles and products he has reviewed and recommends. You might find something

on mycoplasma and its treatment in these files.

Anyway, I have had a problem with recurrent bladder infections for many

years. I looked up this subject among Mercola's articles, and found a series

of

e-books by Kilmartin, a lady who suffered for many years with bladder

infections, lost her marriage, career, had numerous surgeries, all to no

avail, and then finally figured out how to help herself. She dedicated her

life

to helping other people with the same problems. Doctors can't help much. I

ordered her four e-books for around $39. One of these, The Interstitial

Cystitis Solution says that with all those people who have this disease, it has

been confirmed to be caused by mycoplasma (such as M. genitalis, M.hominis or

M.urealyticum). She gives instructions on preparing the specimen for

culture. Apparently it must be given at the lab because after one hour the

mycoplasma die. So if you want proof you have this organism you must locate a

lab

that does this study, make an appointment to have your specimen looked at

immediately, and go there to give the specimen right before the appointment

time,

given in the appropriate way (see the book). Or, you might just decide to

take the dosage she recommends without the lab confirmation of diagnosis.

says many people do this because they are unable to locate a laboratory

to do the culture. You said there were only four labs in the " this country

which test for mycoplasma " . (Would you please give me the contact information

and locations for these if you have them?). She is in England, and patients

from the US fly to be treated by her. There are several horror tales in her

books about women suffering for years and unable to receive help. They fly

to England, have a culture done (the only lab in England that does this work),

and then they are treated. On page 21 she mentions that men with

prostatitis get infections with mycoplasma. Sorry, I am a little confused as

to the

exact organisms she talks about. You might want to order this ebook and read

it for yourself. She says doxycycline can cause nausea unless you take it

with a meal. Keep your stomach full with food or liquid when any nausea

starts.

Eating well helps a lot because doxycycline is not an easy antibiotic to

digest or be absorbed. Also, six capsules a day is a heavy dose. She does say

that some people are uncomfortable for the ten days while on this regimen,

but after it is complete, their symptoms of 20 years or so just miraculously

vanish!

I think that the report you would want to order is this one on interstitial

cystitis. It also discusses men with prostatitis caused by mycoplasma, how

to obtain the culture, and how to treat it. Doxycycline should be taken at

the full 6-per-day dose, for the full ten days for complete relief. I

believe you can order this ebook from _www.TheInterstitialCystitisSolution.com_

(http://www.TheInterstitialCystitisSolution.com) , by Kilmartin (2006).

Another web address would be _http://www.utisolution.com_

(http://www.utisolution.com) .

I myself have used psychics as medical intuitives. Sounds like you have

yourself a really good one. If you want information about the two that I use

(for everything under the sun, with excellent results), email me privately at

_grace1way@..._ (mailto:grace1way@...) , and make sure the subject is

clear so I don't delete you mail. I will send you an attachment with

information on how to contact these psychics. You can ask them virtually

anything.

They are very accurate, charge very little, are very fast, and very ethical.

Sure hope this helps you,

Jill

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