Re: Dr Kolb one more thing

[Guest guest]

I never got autoimmune testing because I was guided not to make myself

uninsurable. Autoimmune tests are sometimes negative and sometimes positive

with no effect on treatment. Remember that I has the advantage of treating

over 300 patients at this point so I knew what tests were important. .

----- Original Message -----

From: <cjheer@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:09 PM

Subject: Dr Kolb one more thing

> I am going to quote you here so that I am not misquoting you, in your

> post you said ...and I will quote here

>

> I have not had

> any testing which could show an autoimmune problem but I do recommend

> Dr.

> Shanklin's silicone antibody test if my patients wish to be

> reimplanted with

> saline if they had evidence of autoimmune disease.

>

> End of your quote.

>

> I am wondering, and no I am not trying to start an argument or attack

> you please understand this all I am trying to do is to understand

> what your situation was if that is ok?

>

> you state above that you have not had any autoimmune testing. I am

> wondering, from reading your story you say that you had all these

> terrible symptoms and I am wondering why you never had any testing

> for autoimmune disease? If you were so sick wouldn't you want to know

> what was wrong with you? If you never had any testing how could you

> have felt safe reimplanting with saline? I am curious did you

> reimplant at the time of explanting your gels or did you wait until

> you were healed. Maybe this is what I am confused about.

>

> Thank you in advance if you can clear this whole thing up for us all.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I find this statement pretty ridiculous, esp as an MD if you are sick

you don't get a test to find out if you are suffering from autoimmune

disease because of insurance. I have been tested many many times

during my illness and still have insurance so this again, seems to

not make a whole lot of sense. Is this what you advice your patients?

not to get tested for autoimmune diseases? Well you are the expert

here and you make it very clear from your posts that the rest of us

uneducated people are not in you advantage of having treated 300

patients with auto immune disease. Again I question how you could put

implants in your body if you were even half as sick as me or many of

the ladies on this site. Maybe none of them wish to speak up but I

know for a fact that many implant ill women question your motives

here.I suppose you will again attack me with one of your know it all

posts. How on earth do you know if someone has an autoimmune disease

if you do not test them? How can you reimplant women who might be ill

with lupus or other awful diseases? Please try to explain this with a

post that is longer than your usual brief one r two line responses

and quit being so defensive, I am no more attacking you than you are

me. I am having trouble swallowing advice from a Dr who was so ill

from implants that she went and replaced them and never even checked

to see if she had lupus or another autoimmune disease. You also state

you knew what tests were important, well my goodness that would be a

nice thing to share here with us all since we are still sick unlike

you.

In @y..., " Dr. Kolb " <drkolb@m...> wrote:

> I never got autoimmune testing because I was guided not to make

myself

> uninsurable. Autoimmune tests are sometimes negative and sometimes

positive

> with no effect on treatment. Remember that I has the advantage of

treating

> over 300 patients at this point so I knew what tests were

important. .

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <cjheer@i...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:09 PM

> Subject: Dr Kolb one more thing

>

>

> > I am going to quote you here so that I am not misquoting you, in

your

> > post you said ...and I will quote here

> >

> > I have not had

> > any testing which could show an autoimmune problem but I do

recommend

> > Dr.

> > Shanklin's silicone antibody test if my patients wish to be

> > reimplanted with

> > saline if they had evidence of autoimmune disease.

> >

> > End of your quote.

> >

> > I am wondering, and no I am not trying to start an argument or

attack

> > you please understand this all I am trying to do is to understand

> > what your situation was if that is ok?

> >

> > you state above that you have not had any autoimmune testing. I am

> > wondering, from reading your story you say that you had all these

> > terrible symptoms and I am wondering why you never had any testing

> > for autoimmune disease? If you were so sick wouldn't you want to

know

> > what was wrong with you? If you never had any testing how could

you

> > have felt safe reimplanting with saline? I am curious did you

> > reimplant at the time of explanting your gels or did you wait

until

> > you were healed. Maybe this is what I am confused about.

> >

> > Thank you in advance if you can clear this whole thing up for us

all.

> >

> >

> >

> >