Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Ran across something in a box of stuff out in the garage. Have no clue where they came from. It was a package of 3 " self-adhering muscle stimulator pads. We hooked it up to zill and worked great! Stays put and if used carefully can be used many times. If it gets too tacky it can be put in the fridge. If it gets too dry it can have a little water added to it. This particular brand is from RS Medical, but they won't sell them unless you have one of their prescription machines. However, I located them at a regular medical supply. It appears to spread the charge out over the whole pad area and worked really good for me for my liver area and my husband's sinus. They have them in different sizes and shapes. They ran @20.00 US for 4 pads, but said that they would last quite a long time if carefully used. I had my navel pierced last fall and have had a hard time healing it. It had become infected. Three sessions of 20 mins @250 microamps and it is completely turned around and on the road to wellness. Nikki --------------------------------------------------- Letter content was scanned by WinAntiVirus Pro 2006. No threat detected. Please visit www.winantivirus.com for more details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Hey, that's nice, Nikki. Nikki's an Apprentice Ziller from awhile back, right? If not, accept the award now ta da. I've filed the bit about the healing of the navel piercing in our files. Wouldn't it be nice if piercers and tattooers had an apprentice ziller around for their customers? Hey, get an apprentice godzilla tattooed onto your body, so you don't forget how to make one! That's cool. Really cool. bG > > Ran across something in a box of stuff out in the garage. Have no clue > where they came from. It was a package of 3 " self-adhering muscle stimulator > pads. We hooked it up to zill and worked great! Stays put and if used > carefully can be used many times. If it gets too tacky it can be put in the > fridge. If it gets too dry it can have a little water added to it. This > particular brand is from RS Medical, but they won't sell them unless you > have one of their prescription machines. However, I located them at a > regular medical supply. It appears to spread the charge out over the whole > pad area and worked really good for me for my liver area and my husband's > sinus. They have them in different sizes and shapes. They ran @20.00 US > for 4 pads, but said that they would last quite a long time if carefully > used. > > > > I had my navel pierced last fall and have had a hard time healing it. It > had become infected. Three sessions of 20 mins @250 microamps and it is > completely turned around and on the road to wellness. > > > > Nikki > > > --------------------------------------------------- > Letter content was scanned by WinAntiVirus Pro 2006. > No threat detected. > Please visit www.winantivirus.com for more details. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Yes, I've been using tens pads connected with the godzilla or with the 3 AAA battery units for quite awhile. They can usually be found on ebay for about $1 per pad. Nikki Cowan wrote: > Ran across something in a box of stuff out in the garage. Have no clue > where they came from. It was a package of 3 " self-adhering muscle > stimulator > pads. We hooked it up to zill and worked great! Stays put and if used > carefully can be used many times. If it gets too tacky it can be put > in the > fridge. If it gets too dry it can have a little water added to it. This > particular brand is from RS Medical, but they won't sell them unless you > have one of their prescription machines. However, I located them at a > regular medical supply. It appears to spread the charge out over the > whole > pad area and worked really good for me for my liver area and my husband's > sinus. They have them in different sizes and shapes. They ran @20.00 US > for 4 pads, but said that they would last quite a long time if carefully > used. > > > > I had my navel pierced last fall and have had a hard time healing it. It > had become infected. Three sessions of 20 mins @250 microamps and it is > completely turned around and on the road to wellness. > > > > Nikki > > > --------------------------------------------------- > Letter content was scanned by WinAntiVirus Pro 2006. > No threat detected. > Please visit www.winantivirus.com for more details. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2006 Report Share Posted May 1, 2006 Yes, I've been using tens pads connected with the godzilla or with the 3 AAA battery units for quite awhile. They can usually be found on ebay for about $1 per pad. Thanks! Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2006 Report Share Posted May 2, 2006 There are some nails that will just fit snuggly into the TENS connectors. You could twist or solder the wire onto the nails and push them into the connectors. Check them out at a hardware store. Radio Shack also has connectors that you can crimp onto the wires. When TENS pads get old they sometimes do not spread the current over the whole pad, but concentrate it into smaller areas, causing an itch or reddening of the skin. Also, some are allergic to the adhesive in the pads, and get itches even without current. Also, I checked with the supplier and they said you could cut down the pads into 1/8 " x 2 " for use over the arteries, if you want. Kinda expensive substitute for old t shirt material. Dick RE: ELECTRODES >> >> >> >> >> Yes, I've been using tens pads connected with the godzilla or with the 3 >> AAA battery units for quite awhile. They can usually be found on ebay >> for about $1 per pad. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Nikki >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 v-man, been trying to contact you. give me a zap. jim > > Hi DOUG, > > Well what I have done that works pretty good is take soem scissors and cut the tens pads down so they are about 1/4 inch or less wide and then put them right over the artery. You have to cut parralell along the wire that goes down the middle so you dont cut the wire. > > > > > Take care, > V > http://www.health-freedom.info/ > > > I read in the Beck protocol that they do not recommend using the TNS > > electrodes as the microcurrent may not get into the blood, just into > > surrounding tissue. What do you think? They sure would be easier to use, > > stick on etc but my Beck units leeds are to big around for the TNS pads I > > have at work (PT) > > ndwanabe > > RE: ELECTRODES > > > > > >> Yes, I've been using tens pads connected with the godzilla or with the 3 > >> AAA battery units for quite awhile. They can usually be found on ebay > >> for about $1 per pad. > > >> Thanks! > > >> Nikki > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Seems to me it would work, isn't a conductor a conductor? Jack Re: ELECTRODES v-man, been trying to contact you. give me a zap. jim > > Hi DOUG, > > Well what I have done that works pretty good is take soem scissors and cut the tens pads down so they are about 1/4 inch or less wide and then put them right over the artery. You have to cut parralell along the wire that goes down the middle so you dont cut the wire. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Yes, it will work. I checked with one of the TENS pad manufacturer and they said the pads could be cut down to the desired size and shape, as long as the wire down the center was not cut. Dick Re: ELECTRODES v-man, been trying to contact you. give me a zap. jim > > Hi DOUG, > > Well what I have done that works pretty good is take soem scissors and cut the tens pads down so they are about 1/4 inch or less wide and then put them right over the artery. You have to cut parralell along the wire that goes down the middle so you dont cut the wire. > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2006 Report Share Posted May 27, 2006 Hi Jim, I have been answering your emails, all of them. maybe your spam filters is killing them all. Take care, V > v-man, been trying to contact you. give me a zap. jim > >> Hi DOUG, >> >> Well what I have done that works pretty good is take soem scissors > and cut the tens pads down so they are about 1/4 inch or less wide and > then put them right over the artery. You have to cut parralell along > the wire that goes down the middle so you dont cut the wire. >> >> >> >> >> Take care, >> V >> http://www.health-freedom.info/ >> >> > I read in the Beck protocol that they do not recommend using the TNS >> > electrodes as the microcurrent may not get into the blood, just into >> > surrounding tissue. What do you think? They sure would be easier > to use, >> > stick on etc but my Beck units leeds are to big around for the TNS > pads I >> > have at work (PT) >> > ndwanabe >> > RE: ELECTRODES >> >> >> >> >> >> Yes, I've been using tens pads connected with the godzilla or > with the 3 >> >> AAA battery units for quite awhile. They can usually be found on > ebay >> >> for about $1 per pad. >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Nikki >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Hi - do moist sponges work better than the type of stick-on electrodes that are used with ekg machines? Is there anything against using the latter? Bob K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 There's no difference in the final effects but sponges may give you wider coverage, faster times. I have found medical stick-ons are overkill for this. Plus they often have " hot spots " , despite their great-looking designs and fancy prices. I use the handiest things around, sponges, wires, 6 volt battery, and not very often. Godzilla's a beast, really strong, even if you don't feel it. Godzilla is a great descriptive name for it. Used only infrequently, I have found a higher level of survival (how ever you want to read that) is easy to maintain with a few minutes a week or even a month. The immune system gets weaker as you age, this gives a helping hand. Cumulatively, if what I think is true, the number of germs in me that have been hit by godzilla and turned into inert states (which is the definition of a " vaccine " ) would be very high. The immune system can create antibodies to many germs if it only can get a " safe " copy to model itself after. It could happen that a " super-immunity " might develop as a result of electric current hitting germs occasionally and resulting in a high degree of antibody readiness. The benefits of a disease-free existence are many. So this is worth learning the simple tricks you need to do it. The best news is that the simplest device works as well and in some cases better, than the most complex. I have found that to be true. Bob Beck had a huge collection of exotic and expensive electromedical devices. He said the only one that really worked enough to be worth the trouble, was the simple battery device. His first version was DC with a slow switching about every 2 seconds or so. He later made it switch around every 1/8 second (4 hertz). But I think at first they just wrapped aluminum foil around people's ankles and connected a battery to it for a few minutes. It all worked great! So, be aware that you want it easy to use so that you will use it, and easy to copy, so others will be confident enough to try it. It could mean a lot, despite all their initial ridicule, etc. Someday when going to the doctor becomes too expensive, or useless, they will remember it. bG > > Hi - do moist sponges work better than the type of stick-on electrodes that > are used with ekg machines? Is there anything against using the latter? Bob > K. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 stupid question maybe? wetting sponge before use, does that change anything? ________________________________ From: baby_grand <no_reply > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:44:51 PM Subject: Re: electrodes There's no difference in the final effects but sponges may give you wider coverage, faster times. I have found medical stick-ons are overkill for this. Plus they often have " hot spots " , despite their great-looking designs and fancy prices. I use the handiest things around, sponges, wires, 6 volt battery, and not very often. Godzilla's a beast, really strong, even if you don't feel it. Godzilla is a great descriptive name for it. Used only infrequently, I have found a higher level of survival (how ever you want to read that) is easy to maintain with a few minutes a week or even a month. The immune system gets weaker as you age, this gives a helping hand. Cumulatively, if what I think is true, the number of germs in me that have been hit by godzilla and turned into inert states (which is the definition of a " vaccine " ) would be very high. The immune system can create antibodies to many germs if it only can get a " safe " copy to model itself after. It could happen that a " super-immunity " might develop as a result of electric current hitting germs occasionally and resulting in a high degree of antibody readiness. The benefits of a disease-free existence are many. So this is worth learning the simple tricks you need to do it. The best news is that the simplest device works as well and in some cases better, than the most complex. I have found that to be true. Bob Beck had a huge collection of exotic and expensive electromedical devices. He said the only one that really worked enough to be worth the trouble, was the simple battery device. His first version was DC with a slow switching about every 2 seconds or so. He later made it switch around every 1/8 second (4 hertz). But I think at first they just wrapped aluminum foil around people's ankles and connected a battery to it for a few minutes. It all worked great! So, be aware that you want it easy to use so that you will use it, and easy to copy, so others will be confident enough to try it. It could mean a lot, despite all their initial ridicule, etc. Someday when going to the doctor becomes too expensive, or useless, they will remember it. bG > > Hi - do moist sponges work better than the type of stick-on electrodes that > are used with ekg machines? Is there anything against using the latter? Bob > K. > __._,_..___ Messages in this topic (18) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. See FILES menu for instructions and test results. By joining you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, and good luck researching. --bG MARKETPLACE ________________________________ From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Change settings via the Web ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity *  6 New Members *  1 New Photos *  1 New FilesVisit Your Group Sell Online Start selling with our award-winning e-commerce tools. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Everyday Wellness on Find groups that will help you stay fit. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Amen to that bG. My manual Godzilla produced by " V " has kept me safe and away from the dentist for quite a while now. Works every time too. Bob Re: electrodes > There's no difference in the final effects but sponges may give you > wider coverage, faster times. I have found medical stick-ons are > overkill for this. Plus they often have " hot spots " , despite their > great-looking designs and fancy prices. I use the handiest things > around, sponges, wires, 6 volt battery, and not very often. > > Godzilla's a beast, really strong, even if you don't feel it. Godzilla > is a great descriptive name for it. Used only infrequently, I have > found a higher level of survival (how ever you want to read that) is > easy to maintain with a few minutes a week or even a month. The immune > system gets weaker as you age, this gives a helping hand. > > Cumulatively, if what I think is true, the number of germs in me that > have been hit by godzilla and turned into inert states (which is the > definition of a " vaccine " ) would be very high. The immune system can > create antibodies to many germs if it only can get a " safe " copy to > model itself after. > > It could happen that a " super-immunity " might develop as a result of > electric current hitting germs occasionally and resulting in a high > degree of antibody readiness. The benefits of a disease-free existence > are many. So this is worth learning the simple tricks you need to do > it. > > The best news is that the simplest device works as well and in some > cases better, than the most complex. I have found that to be true. > > Bob Beck had a huge collection of exotic and expensive electromedical > devices. He said the only one that really worked enough to be worth > the trouble, was the simple battery device. His first version was DC > with a slow switching about every 2 seconds or so. He later made it > switch around every 1/8 second (4 hertz). But I think at first they > just wrapped aluminum foil around people's ankles and connected a > battery to it for a few minutes. It all worked great! > > So, be aware that you want it easy to use so that you will use it, and > easy to copy, so others will be confident enough to try it. It could > mean a lot, despite all their initial ridicule, etc. Someday when > going to the doctor becomes too expensive, or useless, they will > remember it. > > bG > > >> >> Hi - do moist sponges work better than the type of stick-on > electrodes that >> are used with ekg machines? Is there anything against using the > latter? Bob >> K. >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. See FILES menu for instructions and > test results. > > By joining you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, > from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or > individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything > about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, > for your understanding, and good luck researching. --bG > Links > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 try it and see bG > > > > Hi - do moist sponges work better than the type of stick-on > electrodes that > > are used with ekg machines? Is there anything against using the > latter? Bob > > K. > > > > __._,_..___ > Messages in this topic (18) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. See FILES menu for instructions and test results. > > By joining you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, and good luck researching. --bG > MARKETPLACE > > ________________________________ > From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > Recent Activity > *  6 > New Members > *  1 > New Photos > *  1 > New FilesVisit Your Group > Sell Online > Start selling with > our award-winning > e-commerce tools. > New business? > Get new customers. > List your web site > in Search. > Everyday Wellness > on > Find groups that will > help you stay fit. > . > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 The manual godzilla by V is just about the same as the first model I made, I think. 4 9 volts batteries, limiting resistor, potentiometer and manual switchover. It's nice because you can turn it way down, snap the switch, then gradually turn it up again, avoiding the " spike " effect. You would have to laugh but it took me almost 2 years to figure out that you could turn it down before switching. I just thought the spike was un-avoidable, so endured it.. Doh! bG > > Amen to that bG. My manual Godzilla produced by " V " has kept me safe and > away from the dentist for quite a while now. Works every time too. > > Bob > Re: electrodes > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 kidding where maybe i should not be. wet the sponges and wring out all the water you can, or just squeeze them a bit and they press with a towel, etc. they should be damp, not soaking wet. Cloths need to be wetted more than sponges, which seem to conduct a lot more electricity than does cloth! bG > > > > > > Hi - do moist sponges work better than the type of stick-on > > electrodes that > > > are used with ekg machines? Is there anything against using the > > latter? Bob > > > K. > > > > > > > __._,_..___ > > Messages in this topic (18) Reply (via web post) | Start a new > topic > > Messages > > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. See FILES menu for > instructions and test results. > > > > By joining you agree to hold harmless the posters, including > moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, > severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but > cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have > medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, and good luck > researching. --bG > > MARKETPLACE > > > > ________________________________ > > From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft > Foods > > > > Change settings via the Web ( ID required) > > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > > Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > > Recent Activity > > *  6 > > New Members > > *  1 > > New Photos > > *  1 > > New FilesVisit Your Group > > Sell Online > > Start selling with > > our award-winning > > e-commerce tools. > > New business? > > Get new customers. > > List your web site > > in Search. > > Everyday Wellness > > on > > Find groups that will > > help you stay fit. > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 LOL! Bob Re: electrodes >> >> > > > ------------------------------------ > > HOW-T0 in PHOTOS menu group webpage. See FILES menu for instructions and > test results. > > By joining you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, > from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or > individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything > about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, > for your understanding, and good luck researching. --bG > Links > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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