Re: godzilla and lyme headaches

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I can strongly advise the book *Lyme Disease and Rife machines* by

Rosner.

See: www.lymebook.com

It explains a lot, and also why antibiotics do fail.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

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godzilla and lyme headaches

> My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease), the

> worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

> behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years now.

> Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we are now

> staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really hesitate

> to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

>

> I'm interested in knowing what is known about using the godzilla

> against headaches from Lyme and Bart. I'm willing to do it, but I am

> wondering where you place the probes when you are dealing with a

> headache.

>

> And what about the SOTA blood purifier for this?

> Thanks

> zentick

[Guest guest]

What I, a layman, not a doctor, know about it:

Antibiotics can fight Lyme, but they usually do not cross the blood

brain barrier. If Lyme's gets into the brain, then the antibiotics

won't help it there. (Please correct me if wrong here). The same

true for spinal cord, possibly nerves.

The folks with Lyme have found that a magnetic pulser of high power

has helped, according to some. There's a group called

magpulser, in which Lyme successes have been reported anecdotally and

without much followup. Their device is for sale, but I have no

reason to endorse or recommend it, other than say it's there check

into it. It's cheap, relative to other things, in the low hundreds.

It's really just a large coil you connect to some car batteries. So

you need the batteries, and a charger to run to keep them charged

up. IF on antibiotics, the brain, spinal cord would be the areas to

hit hardest with either godzillas or magpulsers. godzilla of course,

just puts current into the area directly. The magnetic pulser does

so without any skin contact, indirectly via pulsed waves of magnetism

causing a current to flow in the body very briefly. I have no idea

how strong that current is relative to godzilla's own current.

There's been stuff said about the risks of DC current either from a

magnetic pulsation or from wires connected to a battery. I think it

was Beck who said it could alter brain synapse sites or something

like that. But, the germ already is destroying a lot more, I would

think, so it's a tradeoff I would hate to comment on.

Doctors have used 1mA or more on the brain for tests of IQ using DC

as a brain stimulant, and found it harmless. 1mA would definitely

render some germs inactive!

There's also an AC pulse magnetic pulser by Bil Green of mammoth

lakes, ca. look up bil green in messages. His is about 400 bucks

and provides an AC current. It's hard to say how much current any of

these magnetic devices produce in body tissues vs how much is

actually required to inactivate microbes!!! That, to me, is the

issue.

Best of luck

bG

Godzilla may be able to reduce the bacteria in brain, but I'm not

sure where in the brain it lives, so unable to specify where to place

electrodes.

Brain and spine

>

> My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease), the

> worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

> behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years

now.

> Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we are

now

> staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really

hesitate

> to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

>

> I'm interested in knowing what is known about using the godzilla

> against headaches from Lyme and Bart. I'm willing to do it, but I

am

> wondering where you place the probes when you are dealing with a

> headache.

>

> And what about the SOTA blood purifier for this?

> Thanks

> zentick

>

[Guest guest]

Have you thought about trying the MagPulser? I don't know if it would

work... but it may be worth a try. I'm going to forward this to my

MagPulser group to see if any of them have any ideas.

jra

godzilla and lyme headaches

> My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease), the

> worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

> behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years now.

> Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we are now

> staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really hesitate

> to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

>

> I'm interested in knowing what is known about using the godzilla

> against headaches from Lyme and Bart. I'm willing to do it, but I am

> wondering where you place the probes when you are dealing with a

> headache.

>

> And what about the SOTA blood purifier for this?

> Thanks

> zentick

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

> devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

> advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing,

> you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages

> from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually.

> We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

> repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for

> your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

>

[Guest guest]

Bev,

I suffered with Migraines for over 20 years. I don't wish that on anybody.

When I feel one coming on the first thing I reach for is my Godzilla that I

purchased from V. I use the electrodes on my wrists, alternating left and

right wrist every day. I use the Godzilla for an hour or more per day for up

to a couple weeks, and then rest for a week, and then again for two more

weeks. At first I used it twice a day, for an hour in the am, and an hour in

the pm.

Also, strange but true, my EFT treatments have helped also to eliminate them

EFT stands for Emotional Freedom Technique, and I can help you learn the

technique in an hour so that you can help your daughter with that method if

you like. The two of them combined will help substantially. Just let me know

There is one other protocol you should know about.

Do you know about the LymeStrategies group? Why don't you join that?

There is a wealth of information there and a family tremendously supportive

people. Between and bG, and the LymeStrategies,

she will be good to go in no-time.

Sasha

-- godzilla and lyme headaches

My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease), the

worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years now.

Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we are now

staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really hesitate

to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

[Guest guest]

Bev,

I suffered with Migraines for over 20 years. I don't wish that on anybody.

When I feel one coming on the first thing I reach for is my Godzilla that I

purchased from V. I use the electrodes on my wrists, alternating left and

right wrist every day. I use the Godzilla for an hour or more per day for up

to a couple weeks, and then rest for a week, and then again for two more

weeks. At first I used it twice a day, for an hour in the am, and an hour in

the pm.

Also, strange but true, my EFT treatments have helped also to eliminate them

EFT stands for Emotional Freedom Technique, and I can help you learn the

technique in an hour so that you can help your daughter with that method if

you like. The two of them combined will help substantially. Just let me know

There is one other protocol you should know about.

Do you know about the LymeStrategies group? Why don't you join that?

There is a wealth of information there and a family tremendously supportive

people. Between and bG, and the LymeStrategies,

she will be good to go in no-time.

Sasha

-- godzilla and lyme headaches

My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease), the

worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years now.

Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we are now

staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really hesitate

to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

[Guest guest]

Here is some research done by an individual with some obvious

competence. I will permit discussion of it on the advanced

group: 2. It is not for newbies, this is

very scientific stuff, I post it here to identify it, and will post

it over on the advanced group if you want to discuss it there. I've

done some of this type of stuff myself a few years ago. Please don't

respond anymore to this Rife type stuff on this group which is for

the simpler device and less challenging diseases. Lyme's is the most

challenging of modern microbial illnesses, in my layman's opinion.

bG

I became interested in the effects of electromagnetic fields about

four years ago, when I was ill with Lyme disease. In the spring of

1990, my G.I. tract was most infected. I was unable to eat anything

but Ensure-Plus, and lost 20 pounds in 14 days.

I was put on an IV (2 grams Rocephin daily for a month). However, I

was still losing the battle. A relative told me that back in the

1930's, researchers found that specific electromagnetic frequencies

would kill micro-organisms.

I could see that this might be possible. I had nothing to lose, so I

set up an experiment with two objectives:

1. Test and prove the theory that electromagnetic waves at fixed

frequencies can kill the Lyme spirochete in vitro.

2. Try the same experiment in vivo.

Experiment #1 - In vitro

EQUIPMENT:

1. Leitz microscope body with Zeiss 100x oil lens. 1.32 NA and 10x

eye pieces. 1000 power with dark field turret.

2. Spare lens.

3. " x1 " slides with slipcovers.

4. Function generator--used sine wave function only.

5. 700 watt audio amplifier. (Started with 20 watts).

6. 400 gauss coil for microscope. Tried many different kinds. Put

coil around condenser lens below slide.

7. Amp meter.

8. Volt meter.

9. Live spirochetes. Facilities to cultivate them. After observing

the spirochetes for some time, I applied 625 Hz and noticed a number-

of unusual reactions from the

a. Vibrated tail and appeared broken.

b. Bent back and forth from center.

c. Spinning (100rpm).

d. Straightened out.

The spirochetes that reacted did die in 20 minutes to 2 hours. 600 Hz

had the same effect. I knew that the response curve for resonance was

symmetrical, so I went to the midpoint of 612 and found this

frequency to be more effective. 920 seemed to be another kill

frequency, and it occurred to me that I was on a harmonic of 306. I

tested 306 and found it to be the most effective for killing

spirochetes - in fact, my wife and I had a " Herxheimer " for three

days, from looking in the microscope when its coil was running at

that frequency.

EXPERIMENT #2 - In vivo

EQUIPMENT:

1. Function generator

2. 2. Amplifier

3. 3, Amp meter

4. 4. Volt meter

5. 5. Oscilloscope

6. 6. Coil - 4 ohms impedance -constructed of #12 magnet wire

a. 200 gauss -20 Hz - coil 20 " diameter - 190T (33 mh)

b. 38 gauss - 305 Hz - coil 20 " diameter - 47T (2.1 mh)

c. 420 gauss - 305 Hz - coil 4 " diameter - 180T (2.1 mh)

The coil was held around head, chest, waist and legs.

Time: 30 seconds per positions - 3 minutes

Frequency: Start 625--611--305--and 20 Hz. Reaction: As with

antibiotic treatment, there was a Jarisch-Herxheimer response with

symptoms becoming worse before they went away. 20 Hz was also found

to be effective, later tests show 27 Hz may be better.

The treatment continued once a month for six months before most

symptoms disappeared. NOTE: Care should be taken in start-up

treatment because of large Jarisch-Herxheimer reactions. Expect two

years for complete recovery.

That was just about four years ago. Since then, I have gained back 40

pounds and work full time. Today, I enjoy good health, which I know

is directly attributable to the electromagnetic treatments. I have

not had any antibiotics since 1989.

Many people in our support group have treated themselves, with

equally satisfying results. They built their own frequency machines

with some differences, but basically the same unit.

The most recent revision of the " machine " is a frequency or function

generator (BK Precision Model 3011B) of sine waves fed into a 2000-

watt amplifier (QSC MX2000) which powers a set of coils (different

coils for different frequencies). The coils act as radiating devices

when placed against the body have AC magnetic fields of a 100 gauss

minimum which penetrates the body.

The electronic hardware set-up and frequencies have been added to

over the years, and the latest frequencies are 27, 300-400 scan, 420-

470 scan HZ at 100 gauss minimum. About seven treatments are

required, exposing each infected area of the body for about 3 minutes

per treatment.

The components are available off the shelf from a nearby electronics

and music store, for about $1500.

>

> My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease), the

> worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

> behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years

now.

> Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we are

now

> staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really

hesitate

> to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

>

> I'm interested in knowing what is known about using the godzilla

> against headaches from Lyme and Bart. I'm willing to do it, but I

am

> wondering where you place the probes when you are dealing with a

> headache.

>

> And what about the SOTA blood purifier for this?

> Thanks

> zentick

>

[Guest guest]

sasha, I dont' recall if I documented this headaches report and if

so, where in our files. I just created a folder called headaches,

migraines, etc.

I will post there, but, first can you tell me what help if any this

did for you? It says you did it for weeks but no comment what

happened to the headaches. Please expand on it so someone can decide

if they should try it. thnx

bG

>

> Bev,

> I suffered with Migraines for over 20 years. I don't wish that on

anybody.

> When I feel one coming on the first thing I reach for is my

Godzilla that I

> purchased from V. I use the electrodes on my wrists, alternating

left and

> right wrist every day. I use the Godzilla for an hour or more per

day for up

> to a couple weeks, and then rest for a week, and then again for two

more

> weeks. At first I used it twice a day, for an hour in the am, and

an hour in

> the pm.

>

> Also, strange but true, my EFT treatments have helped also to

eliminate them

> EFT stands for Emotional Freedom Technique, and I can help you

learn the

> technique in an hour so that you can help your daughter with that

method if

> you like. The two of them combined will help substantially. Just

let me know

> There is one other protocol you should know about.

>

> Do you know about the LymeStrategies group? Why don't you

join that?

> There is a wealth of information there and a family tremendously

supportive

> people. Between and bG, and the

LymeStrategies,

> she will be good to go in no-time.

>

> Sasha

> -- godzilla and lyme headaches

>

> My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease), the

> worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

> behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years now.

> Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we are

now

> staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really

hesitate

> to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

>

[Guest guest]

sasha, I dont' recall if I documented this headaches report and if

so, where in our files. I just created a folder called headaches,

migraines, etc.

I will post there, but, first can you tell me what help if any this

did for you? It says you did it for weeks but no comment what

happened to the headaches. Please expand on it so someone can decide

if they should try it. thnx

bG

>

> Bev,

> I suffered with Migraines for over 20 years. I don't wish that on

anybody.

> When I feel one coming on the first thing I reach for is my

Godzilla that I

> purchased from V. I use the electrodes on my wrists, alternating

left and

> right wrist every day. I use the Godzilla for an hour or more per

day for up

> to a couple weeks, and then rest for a week, and then again for two

more

> weeks. At first I used it twice a day, for an hour in the am, and

an hour in

> the pm.

>

> Also, strange but true, my EFT treatments have helped also to

eliminate them

> EFT stands for Emotional Freedom Technique, and I can help you

learn the

> technique in an hour so that you can help your daughter with that

method if

> you like. The two of them combined will help substantially. Just

let me know

> There is one other protocol you should know about.

>

> Do you know about the LymeStrategies group? Why don't you

join that?

> There is a wealth of information there and a family tremendously

supportive

> people. Between and bG, and the

LymeStrategies,

> she will be good to go in no-time.

>

> Sasha

> -- godzilla and lyme headaches

>

> My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease), the

> worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

> behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years now.

> Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we are

now

> staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really

hesitate

> to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

>

[Guest guest]

I have heard that IV antibiotics can destroy all the good bacteria in the

gut and cause diarrhea, If you go that way I would get some acidophilus

capsules to replenish the flora. Yogurt will help, but the pills are better.

Stopped my granddaughter's runs in one day, after she had been suffering for

weeks.

Dick

godzilla and lyme headaches

> My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease), the

> worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

> behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years now.

> Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we are now

> staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really hesitate

> to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

>

> I'm interested in knowing what is known about using the godzilla

> against headaches from Lyme and Bart. I'm willing to do it, but I am

> wondering where you place the probes when you are dealing with a

> headache.

>

> And what about the SOTA blood purifier for this?

> Thanks

> zentick

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

> devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

> advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing,

> you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages

> from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually.

> We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

> repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for

> your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

>

[Guest guest]

VERY cool. I've just posted this to the files section, and thanks so

much. Though we don't have the whole reason, it's great that it

works and I hope it keeps up. You used on wrist arteies of both

wrists for that long a period? that's a lot of dieoff.

bG

> >

> > Bev,

> > I suffered with Migraines for over 20 years. I don't wish that

on

> anybody.

> > When I feel one coming on the first thing I reach for is my

> Godzilla that I

> > purchased from V. I use the electrodes on my wrists, alternating

> left and

> > right wrist every day. I use the Godzilla for an hour or more

per

> day for up

> > to a couple weeks, and then rest for a week, and then again for

two

> more

> > weeks. At first I used it twice a day, for an hour in the am,

and

> an hour in

> > the pm.

> >

> > Also, strange but true, my EFT treatments have helped also to

> eliminate them

> > EFT stands for Emotional Freedom Technique, and I can help you

> learn the

> > technique in an hour so that you can help your daughter with

that

> method if

> > you like. The two of them combined will help substantially. Just

> let me know

> > There is one other protocol you should know about.

> >

> > Do you know about the LymeStrategies group? Why don't you

> join that?

> > There is a wealth of information there and a family tremendously

> supportive

> > people. Between and bG, and the

> LymeStrategies,

> > she will be good to go in no-time.

> >

> > Sasha

> > -- godzilla and lyme

headaches

> >

> > My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease),

the

> > worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

> > behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years

now.

> > Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we

are

> now

> > staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really

> hesitate

> > to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not

medical

> advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by

joing, you

> agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

damages from

> anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

individually. We are

> interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

repeatability, or

> whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

understanding,

> good luck researching. --bG

>

[Guest guest]

VERY cool. I've just posted this to the files section, and thanks so

much. Though we don't have the whole reason, it's great that it

works and I hope it keeps up. You used on wrist arteies of both

wrists for that long a period? that's a lot of dieoff.

bG

> >

> > Bev,

> > I suffered with Migraines for over 20 years. I don't wish that

on

> anybody.

> > When I feel one coming on the first thing I reach for is my

> Godzilla that I

> > purchased from V. I use the electrodes on my wrists, alternating

> left and

> > right wrist every day. I use the Godzilla for an hour or more

per

> day for up

> > to a couple weeks, and then rest for a week, and then again for

two

> more

> > weeks. At first I used it twice a day, for an hour in the am,

and

> an hour in

> > the pm.

> >

> > Also, strange but true, my EFT treatments have helped also to

> eliminate them

> > EFT stands for Emotional Freedom Technique, and I can help you

> learn the

> > technique in an hour so that you can help your daughter with

that

> method if

> > you like. The two of them combined will help substantially. Just

> let me know

> > There is one other protocol you should know about.

> >

> > Do you know about the LymeStrategies group? Why don't you

> join that?

> > There is a wealth of information there and a family tremendously

> supportive

> > people. Between and bG, and the

> LymeStrategies,

> > she will be good to go in no-time.

> >

> > Sasha

> > -- godzilla and lyme

headaches

> >

> > My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease),

the

> > worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

> > behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years

now.

> > Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we

are

> now

> > staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really

> hesitate

> > to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not

medical

> advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by

joing, you

> agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

damages from

> anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

individually. We are

> interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

repeatability, or

> whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

understanding,

> good luck researching. --bG

>

[Guest guest]

Emo,

Can you provide more detail? Like how long did you apply Godzilla before

you noticed improvement. How often do you do Godzilla in order to control

the migraines. I know how to do EFT but have had zero luck. I suspect I

have some issues that, so far, I have been unable to identify. I wish there

was an advanced EFT person in my area.

I'm 74 and have had migraine since I was five or six years old, all my life

basically. Trying to quantify to amount of pain I have endured during those

69 years would be a daunting job but as a fellow migraineur you can imagine.

Regards,

Jack

godzilla and lyme headaches

My 17 year old has Lyme and Bartonella (cat scratch disease), the

worst symptom of which is a horrible 24/7 headache with pressure

behind the eyes. She's had this headache for nearly four years now.

Oral antibiotics have not worked in any meaningful way, and we are now

staring at a PICC line and years of IV antibiotics. I really hesitate

to do this, but that's our trajectory right now.

The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you

agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from

anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are

interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or

whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding,

good luck researching. --bG