Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 In a message dated 7/24/2003 6:45:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, cholesteatoma writes: First, it is NOT a tumor... a lot of people refer to it as a tumor, but that is incorrect. Hi Lynn. Actually, technically it is a tumor. I've seen it referred to that way many times - try a Google search on "tumor cholesteatoma" & see what you get. I know the word "tumor" has some scary implications but it seems to be a valid term for a cholesteatoma. I use it myself to simplify things for those folks who ask what's wrong with my ear but don't really want to get into it (so to speak!). I tell them it is a benign but destructive tumor. At www.earsite.com (one of our bookmarks, The Neurotology Research Center) you click on Tumors to get to Cholesteatoma. I'm not trying to be difficult & hope no one is offended. There are alternative terms to tumor (cyst, growth) if the word bothers anyone. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 My doctor says it is a tumor also... It is just not a cancerous tumor--- rlockw1092@... wrote: In a message dated 7/24/2003 6:45:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, cholesteatoma writes: First, it is NOT a tumor... a lot of people refer to it as a tumor, but thatis incorrect.Hi Lynn. Actually, technically it is a tumor. I've seen it referred to that way many times - try a Google search on "tumor cholesteatoma" & see what you get. I know the word "tumor" has some scary implications but it seems to be a valid term for a cholesteatoma. I use it myself to simplify things for those folks who ask what's wrong with my ear but don't really want to get into it (so to speak!). I tell them it is a benign but destructive tumor. At www.earsite.com (one of our bookmarks, The Neurotology Research Center) you click on Tumors to get to Cholesteatoma.I'm not trying to be difficult & hope no one is offended. There are alternative terms to tumor (cyst, growth) if the word bothers anyone. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 Hi , No offence taken. Because this is an information site, we should all strive to make sure we understand what it is that we are dealing with. If we call it a tumor, then we are not being accurate. Tumor is really a misnomer for cholesteatoma, and I don't doubt that even health care professionals have used the term in describing it to their patients. I even found a site that calls cholesteatoma a tumor. However, a tumor is a cell or group of cells that is dividing uncontrollably, but cholesteatoma is a collection of dead skin cells. It doesn't divide on its own, it only accumulates debris from where it is and erodes surrounding structures (because of its chemistry). It isn't actually a living thing, which a tumor is! Even a benign tumor has cells that divide. Cholesteatoma does not have cells that do this. You are right that the word tumor scares people, because it implies cancer. If you tell someone you have a tumor, their eyes get big and worried, but if you tell them it is a skin cyst, or a benign growth, then you aren't going to worry them quite so much. By the way, c-toma do not become cancerous. That is one important distinction, and a comforting one as well. Lynn tumour 1. <oncology> An abnormal mass of tissue that results from excessive cell division that is uncontrolled and progressive, also called a neoplasm. Tumours perform no useful body function. They may be either benign (not cancerous) or malignant. 2. Swelling, one of the cardinal signs of inflammations, morbid enlargement. Origin: L. Tumere = to swell (12 May 1997) cholesteatoma <dermatology> A benign condition involving an expanding mass of cholesterol crystals and keratinised skin in the middle ear space of unknown cause. Symptoms of hearing loss, ear fullness and pain are common. (13 Nov 1997) -- Re: tumor In a message dated 7/24/2003 6:45:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, cholesteatoma writes: First, it is NOT a tumor... a lot of people refer to it as a tumor, but thatis incorrect.Hi Lynn. Actually, technically it is a tumor. I've seen it referred to that way many times - try a Google search on "tumor cholesteatoma" & see what you get. I know the word "tumor" has some scary implications but it seems to be a valid term for a cholesteatoma. I use it myself to simplify things for those folks who ask what's wrong with my ear but don't really want to get into it (so to speak!). I tell them it is a benign but destructive tumor. At www.earsite.com (one of our bookmarks, The Neurotology Research Center) you click on Tumors to get to Cholesteatoma.I'm not trying to be difficult & hope no one is offended. There are alternative terms to tumor (cyst, growth) if the word bothers anyone. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 Quite right Lynn, it isn't technically a tumour in the proper medical sense though no doubt some doctors and web information may refer to it as that. It turns out that even the word 'cholesteatoma' is a misnomer by the 19th century German doctor who invented it. chole = bile, steato = fat, -oma = tumour (as in melanoma, carcinoma etc). He misdiagnosed it as a 'fatty bile tumour'. I don't think it's properly a cyst either, which means a membrane or sac. Some articles I've read seem to suggest it should be called a keratoma because that implies it's made of skin. At the popular level, I'm sure they're are going to variations as to how we can refer to a cholesteatoma. Precise word definitions may be difficult on an international site since we can't even all spell TUMOUR the same way. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 Touche ! Tumor, like color is the Canadian spelling... I think HUMOR is another... LOL Lynn -- Re: tumor Quite right Lynn, it isn't technically a tumour in the proper medical sense though no doubt some doctors and web information may refer to it as that. It turns out that even the word 'cholesteatoma' is a misnomer by the 19th century German doctor who invented it. chole = bile, steato = fat, -oma = tumour (as in melanoma, carcinoma etc). He misdiagnosed it as a 'fatty bile tumour'. I don't think it's properly a cyst either, which means a membrane or sac. Some articles I've read seem to suggest it should be called a keratoma because that implies it's made of skin. At the popular level, I'm sure they're are going to variations as to how we can refer to a cholesteatoma. Precise word definitions may be difficult on an international site since we can't even all spell TUMOUR the same way. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 I know what you mean Lynn. Sometimes people really get touch here. Re: tumor Quite right Lynn, it isn't technically a tumour in the proper medical sense though no doubt some doctors and web information may refer to it as that. It turns out that even the word 'cholesteatoma' is a misnomer by the 19th century German doctor who invented it. chole = bile, steato = fat, -oma = tumour (as in melanoma, carcinoma etc). He misdiagnosed it as a 'fatty bile tumour'. I don't think it's properly a cyst either, which means a membrane or sac. Some articles I've read seem to suggest it should be called a keratoma because that implies it's made of skin. At the popular level, I'm sure they're are going to variations as to how we can refer to a cholesteatoma. Precise word definitions may be difficult on an international site since we can't even all spell TUMOUR the same way. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 Phil, I knew you could provide insight into this verbose conversation. In regards to keratoma, I have read that it is sometimes indistinguishable from that... hm... perhaps there should be classification just for these. Lynn -- Re: tumor Quite right Lynn, it isn't technically a tumour in the proper medical sense though no doubt some doctors and web information may refer to it as that. It turns out that even the word 'cholesteatoma' is a misnomer by the 19th century German doctor who invented it. chole = bile, steato = fat, -oma = tumour (as in melanoma, carcinoma etc). He misdiagnosed it as a 'fatty bile tumour'. I don't think it's properly a cyst either, which means a membrane or sac. Some articles I've read seem to suggest it should be called a keratoma because that implies it's made of skin. At the popular level, I'm sure they're are going to variations as to how we can refer to a cholesteatoma. Precise word definitions may be difficult on an international site since we can't even all spell TUMOUR the same way. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 Sorry guys just had to add my two bits worth - according to the Heinemann Australian Dictionary a tumour or tumor is an abnormal swelling in the body, which may be benign or malignant. Then couldn't a cholesteatoma be correctly referred to as a tumour. Keep smiling everyone - Jan > Phil, I knew you could provide insight into this verbose conversation. In > regards to keratoma, I have read that it is sometimes indistinguishable from > that... hm... perhaps there should be classification just for these. > Lynn > > -- Re: tumor > > Quite right Lynn, it isn't technically a tumour in the proper medical sense > though no doubt some doctors and web information may refer to it as that. It > turns out that even the word 'cholesteatoma' is a misnomer by the 19th > century German doctor who invented it. chole = bile, steato = fat, -oma = > tumour (as in melanoma, carcinoma etc). He misdiagnosed it as a 'fatty bile > tumour'. I don't think it's properly a cyst either, which means a membrane > or sac. Some articles I've read seem to suggest it should be called a > keratoma because that implies it's made of skin. > > At the popular level, I'm sure they're are going to variations as to how we > can refer to a cholesteatoma. Precise word definitions may be difficult on > an international site since we can't even all spell TUMOUR the same way. > > Phil > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Can anyone tell me if a Sota blood electrifier, at its lowest power on the knob be used in the way of the GEIPE machine.I am trying to kill a tumor in my dogs nose that has now grown close the size of two golf balls,and closed off his breathing through his nose.Ive tried a lot of things....CSilver seemed to make it grow strangly,as well as the mag pulser,yesterday fro the first time I stuck,and held the pulser electrodes in the tumor for 10 minutes or so,today I got a lot of oozing,which makes me think it was benefical.....any comments ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 SOTA's device at lowest power is almost off. And it is AC, so will not approximate a GEIPE, which is DC..technically that's why I'm saying what I'm saying. bG > > Can anyone tell me if a Sota blood electrifier, at its lowest power on > the knob be used in the way of the GEIPE machine.I am trying to kill a > tumor in my dogs nose that has now grown close the size of two golf > balls,and closed off his breathing through his nose.Ive tried a lot of > things....CSilver seemed to make it grow strangly,as well as the mag > pulser,yesterday fro the first time I stuck,and held the pulser > electrodes in the tumor for 10 minutes or so,today I got a lot of > oozing,which makes me think it was benefical.....any comments ?? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2006 Report Share Posted March 17, 2006 Using apprentice godzilla comes the closest to GEIPE. bG > > > > Can anyone tell me if a Sota blood electrifier, at its lowest power > on > > the knob be used in the way of the GEIPE machine.I am trying to > kill a > > tumor in my dogs nose that has now grown close the size of two golf > > balls,and closed off his breathing through his nose.Ive tried a lot > of > > things....CSilver seemed to make it grow strangly,as well as the > mag > > pulser,yesterday fro the first time I stuck,and held the pulser > > electrodes in the tumor for 10 minutes or so,today I got a lot of > > oozing,which makes me think it was benefical.....any comments ?? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.