Re: ziller vests...thinking

[Guest guest]

Bg and all,

I agree about a spandex type vest, something that fits tight to the body, to be

worn under clothing.

My thought is to have a 2 " -3 " metal disk inside a small pocket of material with

a length of piping to hold the wire running from the pocket to the battery pack.

On the pocket and inside the vest according to your desired locations, sew

velcro to attach the ziller disks. That way you can have many different (front

to back) focus points of contact: Hep C, HIV, lungs, etc.

The battery pack can rest in a pocket sewn into the inside of the vest with a

velcro or snap closure to hold it. V's 3 battery holder sounds good for this.

The whole unit is easily removable for washing and changing postions on the

body.

I have HCV and am going to make this vest soon. My husband is going to do the

wires and battery pack. I'm not feeling so good and want to test this idea. My

first ziller, I had just rigged a lamp wire to a 4 volt. And taped the bare

wires to my wrists and abdomen front and back. NO skin burn, everything OK, just

looked really crude. I was only faithful with the twenty minutes morning and

night for a few months.

I'm also working up to getting some testing done. No insurance. I haven't done

any liver function or viral load testing for a year and a half now. I'll post

when I have results. I think this is a great forum and want to contribute what I

can.

This is my New Year's resolution, haha

Deb

[Guest guest]

try alum foil or just wetted cloth, it will carry the current just

fine, especially if wetted with water and a pinch of baking soda in

it per cup. I don't think you actually need to resort to metal.

bG

>

> Bg and all,

> I agree about a spandex type vest, something that fits tight to

the body, to be worn under clothing.

> My thought is to have a 2 " -3 " metal disk inside a small pocket of

material with a length of piping to hold the wire running from the

pocket to the battery pack.

> On the pocket and inside the vest according to your desired

locations, sew velcro to attach the ziller disks. That way you can

have many different (front to back) focus points of contact: Hep C,

HIV, lungs, etc.

> The battery pack can rest in a pocket sewn into the inside of the

vest with a velcro or snap closure to hold it. V's 3 battery holder

sounds good for this.

> The whole unit is easily removable for washing and changing

postions on the body.

> I have HCV and am going to make this vest soon. My husband is

going to do the wires and battery pack. I'm not feeling so good and

want to test this idea. My first ziller, I had just rigged a lamp

wire to a 4 volt. And taped the bare wires to my wrists and abdomen

front and back. NO skin burn, everything OK, just looked really

crude. I was only faithful with the twenty minutes morning and night

for a few months.

> I'm also working up to getting some testing done. No insurance. I

haven't done any liver function or viral load testing for a year and

a half now. I'll post when I have results. I think this is a great

forum and want to contribute what I can.

> This is my New Year's resolution, haha

> Deb

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

HCV, you need to process:

the liver

the blood

BOTH. It seems to germinate in the liver, but recycles itself and

reinfects via the blood. That could be wrong, but it is what I

remember about HCV>

bG

>

> Bg and all,

> I agree about a spandex type vest, something that fits tight to the

body, to be worn under clothing.

> My thought is to have a 2 " -3 " metal disk inside a small pocket of

material with a length of piping to hold the wire running from the

pocket to the battery pack.

> On the pocket and inside the vest according to your desired

locations, sew velcro to attach the ziller disks. That way you can

have many different (front to back) focus points of contact: Hep C,

[Guest guest]

From memory, baking soda is Sodium Bi carbonate ... Sodium with water makes

Sodium Hydroxide, an Alkali which dissolves Aluminium, releasing Hydrogen, and

making Al. salts -- would using Al foil actually cause, in the presence of a DC

current, this Al to be absorbed by the skin, leading to side effects associated

with Al in the body ... Alzheimers' etc....?????

reckon we need to investigate.

Personally, I think that the proliferation of Dementia, and Alzheimers, and

other ills, have proliferated since WW11, after Al was found to be such an

easily formed and machined product for pots, pans and cooking utensils ... but

given the size of the industry, it would not be too easy to find adverse

research... would it??

Regards

Following this thread with great interest, but running a shop 16/7, have not

time at the moment to utilise information.

[Guest guest]

this is probably correct, but the amounts would be tiny. Alum from

deodorants, and other sources might be higher. Also, the recent

studies I've heard about found alum and Alz related but in reverse,

the disease attracted the aluminum, not the other way around. It

could change tomorrow.

Using just water and baking soda works, too, so you could skip the

aluminum and it would work about the same according to some sources

I've heard from.

For very long term usage, I think you should avoid any metals you can.

bG

>

> From memory, baking soda is Sodium Bi carbonate ... Sodium with

water makes Sodium Hydroxide, an Alkali which dissolves Aluminium,

releasing Hydrogen, and making Al. salts -- would using Al foil

actually cause, in the presence of a DC current, this Al to be

absorbed by the skin, leading to side effects associated with Al in

the body ... Alzheimers' etc....?????

> reckon we need to investigate.

> Personally, I think that the proliferation of Dementia, and

Alzheimers, and other ills, have proliferated since WW11, after Al

was found to be such an easily formed and machined product for pots,

pans and cooking utensils ... but given the size of the industry, it

would not be too easy to find adverse research... would it??

> Regards

>

>

> Following this thread with great interest, but running a shop 16/7,

have not time at the moment to utilise information.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I guess it could happen if you put the bare metal against your skin. I know

that bare silver will transfer into the skin if used on the positive

electrode, and leave a black spot that will last for days. That's why we

cover the metal electrodes with cloth when using them.

Dick

Re: Re: ziller vests...thinking

> From memory, baking soda is Sodium Bi carbonate ... Sodium with water

> makes Sodium Hydroxide, an Alkali which dissolves Aluminium, releasing

> Hydrogen, and making Al. salts -- would using Al foil actually cause, in

> the presence of a DC current, this Al to be absorbed by the skin, leading

> to side effects associated with Al in the body ... Alzheimers'

> etc....?????

> reckon we need to investigate.

> Personally, I think that the proliferation of Dementia, and Alzheimers,

> and other ills, have proliferated since WW11, after Al was found to be

> such an easily formed and machined product for pots, pans and cooking

> utensils ... but given the size of the industry, it would not be too easy

> to find adverse research... would it??

> Regards

>

>

> Following this thread with great interest, but running a shop 16/7, have

> not time at the moment to utilise information.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Right on Dick, the mention of aluminum foil turned my blood cold.

Jack

Re: Re: ziller vests...thinking

> From memory, baking soda is Sodium Bi carbonate ... Sodium with water

> makes Sodium Hydroxide, an Alkali which dissolves Aluminium, releasing

> Hydrogen, and making Al. salts -- would using Al foil actually cause, in

> the presence of a DC current, this Al to be absorbed by the skin, leading

> to side effects associated with Al in the body ... Alzheimers'

> etc....?????

> reckon we need to investigate.

> Personally, I think that the proliferation of Dementia, and Alzheimers,

> and other ills, have proliferated since WW11, after Al was found to be

> such an easily formed and machined product for pots, pans and cooking

> utensils ... but given the size of the industry, it would not be too easy

> to find adverse research... would it??

> Regards

>

>

> Following this thread with great interest, but running a shop 16/7, have

> not time at the moment to utilise information.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lithium Cells, say CR2032, give 3V each.

Couple of them in series, give 6V.

They are light weight, & abt 10yrs shelf life.

Good for use in vests.

Only be careful abt short circuits & water/moisture.

Healthy Regards,

Gesi

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Re: ziller vests...thinking

Bg and all,

I agree about a spandex type vest, something that fits tight to the body, to

be worn under clothing.

My thought is to have a 2 " -3 " metal disk inside a small pocket of material

with a length of piping to hold the wire running from the pocket to the battery

pack.