Re: where to put electrodes...from our files..

[Guest guest]

> 13. Sinuses along upper gumline, either inside or outside

cheeks.

> Teeth roots are connected to sinuses and form a complete circuit

> through them. Works just great.

> There will be more to add to the list, I'm sure!

>

> bG

Yes, but I have a huge metal think wrapped around my top molar. I

think it's causing my problems. Itsn't it dangerous to put an

electrode that close to metal?

[Guest guest]

I've got caps and other metal huge in my mouth, not seen any issues

with it. there's a slight metalic taste, but it happens even with

people having no metal in mouth, and even with electrodes outside

the mouth..not understood fully as yet. If you are afraid, don't do

it.

bg

>

> > 13. Sinuses along upper gumline, either inside or outside

> cheeks.

> > Teeth roots are connected to sinuses and form a complete circuit

> > through them. Works just great.

> > There will be more to add to the list, I'm sure!

> >

> > bG

>

> Yes, but I have a huge metal think wrapped around my top molar. I

> think it's causing my problems. Itsn't it dangerous to put an

> electrode that close to metal?

[Guest guest]

Where should I place the electrodes for:

A) Candida

Worms - about 10-35 cm long (same specie)

Thanks for your kind help

_____

From: bobluhrs@... [mailto:bobluhrs@...]

Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 6:41 AM

Subject: where to put electrodes...from our

files..

Wait! Before you place the electrodes, or you should, have a plan.

Why: the germ has to be included as PART of the circuit!!! If the

current runs through the body but misses the germ, the germ gets

away!

You don't want the germ to get away, do you? Of course not!

The bloodstream, like the wrist arteries, is good for most people

since they can use help there. But often it is only a minor part

and will provide only temporary or superficial relief.

Here's a list of the places and diseases based on our files, and

what worked:

1. Hep-c liver in front and behind using large pads, 5 " round

2. HIV intestinal area from stomach to below belly-button.

3. Shingles bloodstream to get rid of baggage virus, and along rib

cage

4. HPV ankles and groin

5. Herpes 2 lumbar area using pads in back and in front near

genital area

6. Anthrax lungs area, use lots of pads and lots of current, also

take anti-biotics per doctor's treatment plans.

7. Headcolds one electrode in mouth or under chin, other on top of

head

8. Sore throats one electrode in mouth other behind neck (can be

pads,

one on throat other behind neck)

9. Insect, spider, snake, etc bites: apply electrodes on each side

of

area, turn current up high. Move it around the area.

10. Herpes sores, same as above in 9.

11. Warts, same

12. Abcessed teeth or toothaches, gum diseases, jawbone infections,

etc alongside the outer or inner cheeks (seems to work the same)

parallel to gumline

13. Sinuses along upper gumline, either inside or outside cheeks.

Teeth roots are connected to sinuses and form a complete circuit

through them. Works just great.

14. Infected toes, fingers, etc. One electrode on each side, move

around, as in bites, sores, warts, etc.

There will be more to add to the list, I'm sure!

bG

The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you

agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from

anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are

interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or

whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding,

good luck researching. --bG

[Guest guest]

Have been using a unit with aluminium electrodes covered with cotton cloth -

it has worked very well for a bout a week now....but today it appears that I

have become quite red where the electrodes are touching....I can also see

that one of the aluminium electrodes have become slightly black at the edges

- I guess some sort of electrolysis reaction.

Which material is better to use for electrodes ? Stainless steel or silver?

Thanks for your kind help and support,

Jakob

_____

From: bobluhrs@... [mailto:bobluhrs@...]

Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 10:54 AM

Subject: Re: where to put electrodes...from our

files..

I've got caps and other metal huge in my mouth, not seen any issues

with it. there's a slight metalic taste, but it happens even with

people having no metal in mouth, and even with electrodes outside

the mouth..not understood fully as yet. If you are afraid, don't do

it.

bg

>

> > 13. Sinuses along upper gumline, either inside or outside

> cheeks.

> > Teeth roots are connected to sinuses and form a complete circuit

> > through them. Works just great.

> > There will be more to add to the list, I'm sure!

> >

> > bG

>

> Yes, but I have a huge metal think wrapped around my top molar. I

> think it's causing my problems. Itsn't it dangerous to put an

> electrode that close to metal?

The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you

agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from

anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are

interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or

whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding,

good luck researching. --bG

[Guest guest]

Silver is best if you can get it but stainless steel is fine.

V

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Have been using a unit with aluminium electrodes covered with cotton cloth -

it has worked very well for a bout a week now....but today it appears that I

have become quite red where the electrodes are touching....I can also see

that one of the aluminium electrodes have become slightly black at the edges

- I guess some sort of electrolysis reaction.

Which material is better to use for electrodes ? Stainless steel or silver?

Thanks for your kind help and support,

Jakob

[Guest guest]

Wouldnt it be more effective to make:

- the entire stomach and chest to one giant electrode (positive charged)

- the entire lower and upper back to one giant electrodee (negatively

charged)

..and maybe increase the ampere from 0.3 miliampere to maybe 1 miliampere???

Was thinking that this way then all parasites must get zapped in the upper

vody no matter if they are hiding in the liver, lungs, kidney, intestines,

gut etc??

1) Let me know your thoughts on this - I am willing to do an experiment for

a few days with this

2) Also let me know what you suggest regardign miliampere and voltage -

today i am using 0.3 miliampere with 9 volt battery - if doing this

experiemtn should I then increase the voltage to 4x9 volt =36 volt and maybe

1 or 2 miliampere? (I do have a 100 k potentiometer i could use for that

purpose)

Best,

Jakob

_____

From: bobluhrs@... [mailto:bobluhrs@...]

Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 6:41 AM

Subject: where to put electrodes...from our

files..

Wait! Before you place the electrodes, or you should, have a plan.

Why: the germ has to be included as PART of the circuit!!! If the

current runs through the body but misses the germ, the germ gets

away!

You don't want the germ to get away, do you? Of course not!

The bloodstream, like the wrist arteries, is good for most people

since they can use help there. But often it is only a minor part

and will provide only temporary or superficial relief.

Here's a list of the places and diseases based on our files, and

what worked:

1. Hep-c liver in front and behind using large pads, 5 " round

2. HIV intestinal area from stomach to below belly-button.

3. Shingles bloodstream to get rid of baggage virus, and along rib

cage

4. HPV ankles and groin

5. Herpes 2 lumbar area using pads in back and in front near

genital area

6. Anthrax lungs area, use lots of pads and lots of current, also

take anti-biotics per doctor's treatment plans.

7. Headcolds one electrode in mouth or under chin, other on top of

head

8. Sore throats one electrode in mouth other behind neck (can be

pads,

one on throat other behind neck)

9. Insect, spider, snake, etc bites: apply electrodes on each side

of

area, turn current up high. Move it around the area.

10. Herpes sores, same as above in 9.

11. Warts, same

12. Abcessed teeth or toothaches, gum diseases, jawbone infections,

etc alongside the outer or inner cheeks (seems to work the same)

parallel to gumline

13. Sinuses along upper gumline, either inside or outside cheeks.

Teeth roots are connected to sinuses and form a complete circuit

through them. Works just great.

14. Infected toes, fingers, etc. One electrode on each side, move

around, as in bites, sores, warts, etc.

There will be more to add to the list, I'm sure!

bG

The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you

agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from

anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are

interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or

whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding,

good luck researching. --bG

[Guest guest]

When you brought up the subject of a much bigger " probe " my immediate reaction

was " I wonder if that's trying to spread the current over too much area? " . Your

mention of increasing the current is a valid point. Since I'm fairly new to

this group and have not completed my Godzilla device, not that it's complicated

but I just haven't had the time and I am building the metered switched unit I

just don't feel qualified to say what the current should be.

I think I would use targeted areas, like the liver as an example. Using

conductors say two or three inches in diameter front and back then move on to

another area of concern. Why? It seems to me that if you herx with the liver

as a target then you know that's a trouble area and can concentrate on that

until you feel confident that it's cleared then move on. I don't know if that

makes sense or not.

Jack

where to put electrodes...from our

files..

Wait! Before you place the electrodes, or you should, have a plan.

Why: the germ has to be included as PART of the circuit!!! If the

current runs through the body but misses the germ, the germ gets

away!

You don't want the germ to get away, do you? Of course not!

The bloodstream, like the wrist arteries, is good for most people

since they can use help there. But often it is only a minor part

and will provide only temporary or superficial relief.

Here's a list of the places and diseases based on our files, and

what worked:

1. Hep-c liver in front and behind using large pads, 5 " round

2. HIV intestinal area from stomach to below belly-button.

3. Shingles bloodstream to get rid of baggage virus, and along rib

cage

4. HPV ankles and groin

5. Herpes 2 lumbar area using pads in back and in front near

genital area

6. Anthrax lungs area, use lots of pads and lots of current, also

take anti-biotics per doctor's treatment plans.

7. Headcolds one electrode in mouth or under chin, other on top of

head

8. Sore throats one electrode in mouth other behind neck (can be

pads,

one on throat other behind neck)

9. Insect, spider, snake, etc bites: apply electrodes on each side

of

area, turn current up high. Move it around the area.

10. Herpes sores, same as above in 9.

11. Warts, same

12. Abcessed teeth or toothaches, gum diseases, jawbone infections,

etc alongside the outer or inner cheeks (seems to work the same)

parallel to gumline

13. Sinuses along upper gumline, either inside or outside cheeks.

Teeth roots are connected to sinuses and form a complete circuit

through them. Works just great.

14. Infected toes, fingers, etc. One electrode on each side, move

around, as in bites, sores, warts, etc.

There will be more to add to the list, I'm sure!

bG

The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you

agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from

anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are

interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or

whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding,

good luck researching. --bG

[Guest guest]

We didn't know what we were doing when first made godzilla. But

some say the old original 36 volt device is dear to them for one

reason or another. It just seems to " have something " aggressive

about it on germs.

Be that as it may, the current is really the measurement to use.

voltage = current x resistance

7.5v = .0005 amps x 15000 ohms

is same thing as

22.5v = .0005 amps x 45000 ohms

in both cases you get .0005 amps, or .5mA. If body is 2000, just

subtract that from the total resistance to get the resistor value

you need for .5mA current with a given voltage.

With our electrodes, skin does not seem to hold up well for an hour

under more than .3mA, at least that's my experience, YMMV.

bG

>

> Wouldnt it be more effective to make:

>

> - the entire stomach and chest to one giant electrode (positive

charged)

> - the entire lower and upper back to one giant electrodee

(negatively

> charged)

>

> .and maybe increase the ampere from 0.3 miliampere to maybe 1

miliampere???

>

> Was thinking that this way then all parasites must get zapped in

the upper

> vody no matter if they are hiding in the liver, lungs, kidney,

intestines,

> gut etc??

>

> 1) Let me know your thoughts on this - I am willing to do an

experiment for

> a few days with this

>

> 2) Also let me know what you suggest regardign miliampere and

voltage -

> today i am using 0.3 miliampere with 9 volt battery - if doing this

> experiemtn should I then increase the voltage to 4x9 volt =36 volt

and maybe

> 1 or 2 miliampere? (I do have a 100 k potentiometer i could use

for that

> purpose)

>

> Best,

> Jakob

>

>

> _____

>

> From: bobluhrs@m... [mailto:bobluhrs@m...]

> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 6:41 AM

>

> Subject: where to put

electrodes...from our

> files..

>

>

>

> Wait! Before you place the electrodes, or you should, have a plan.

> Why: the germ has to be included as PART of the circuit!!! If

the

> current runs through the body but misses the germ, the germ gets

> away!

> You don't want the germ to get away, do you? Of course not!

>

> The bloodstream, like the wrist arteries, is good for most people

> since they can use help there. But often it is only a minor part

> and will provide only temporary or superficial relief.

>

> Here's a list of the places and diseases based on our files, and

> what worked:

>

> 1. Hep-c liver in front and behind using large pads, 5 " round

> 2. HIV intestinal area from stomach to below belly-button.

> 3. Shingles bloodstream to get rid of baggage virus, and along

rib

> cage

> 4. HPV ankles and groin

> 5. Herpes 2 lumbar area using pads in back and in front near

> genital area

> 6. Anthrax lungs area, use lots of pads and lots of current,

also

> take anti-biotics per doctor's treatment plans.

> 7. Headcolds one electrode in mouth or under chin, other on top

of

> head

> 8. Sore throats one electrode in mouth other behind neck (can be

> pads,

> one on throat other behind neck)

> 9. Insect, spider, snake, etc bites: apply electrodes on each

side

> of

> area, turn current up high. Move it around the area.

> 10. Herpes sores, same as above in 9.

> 11. Warts, same

> 12. Abcessed teeth or toothaches, gum diseases, jawbone infections,

> etc alongside the outer or inner cheeks (seems to work the same)

> parallel to gumline

> 13. Sinuses along upper gumline, either inside or outside

cheeks.

> Teeth roots are connected to sinuses and form a complete circuit

> through them. Works just great.

> 14. Infected toes, fingers, etc. One electrode on each side, move

> around, as in bites, sores, warts, etc.

>

> There will be more to add to the list, I'm sure!

>

> bG

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not

medical

> advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by

joing, you

> agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

damages from

> anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

individually. We are

> interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

repeatability, or

> whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

understanding,

> good luck researching. --bG

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I tried to make my entire back to a negative electrode and my entire

stomach/chest to a positive electrode today for about 2 hours.

Used 36 volt constant current (4x9 volt batteries) and about 2 miliampere.

Though the electrodes used were about 25 cm x 5 cm on top of a ladies

swimsuit (made wet with water on front and back for conductivity) then it

appears that the electricity is still too harsh - I did get red/irritated

skin after this.

QUESTION:

Have you or anyone else tried to put on - say - 16 electrodes (4x4) on the

back and 4x4 on the stomach/chest that each only makes 0.2 miliampere go

thru at 5-10 volt? Maybe this way the electricity is more evenly distributed

over the skin by making many smaller low-current electrodes instead of one

large which have a large current (since it appears electricity gets

attracted and goes thru a very small part of the electrode no matter what)?

_____

From: bobluhrs@... [mailto:bobluhrs@...]

Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 7:03 AM

Subject: Re: where to put electrodes...from our

files..

We didn't know what we were doing when first made godzilla. But

some say the old original 36 volt device is dear to them for one

reason or another. It just seems to " have something " aggressive

about it on germs.

Be that as it may, the current is really the measurement to use.

voltage = current x resistance

7.5v = .0005 amps x 15000 ohms

is same thing as

22.5v = .0005 amps x 45000 ohms

in both cases you get .0005 amps, or .5mA. If body is 2000, just

subtract that from the total resistance to get the resistor value

you need for .5mA current with a given voltage.

With our electrodes, skin does not seem to hold up well for an hour

under more than .3mA, at least that's my experience, YMMV.

bG

>

> Wouldnt it be more effective to make:

>

> - the entire stomach and chest to one giant electrode (positive

charged)

> - the entire lower and upper back to one giant electrodee

(negatively

> charged)

>

> .and maybe increase the ampere from 0.3 miliampere to maybe 1

miliampere???

>

> Was thinking that this way then all parasites must get zapped in

the upper

> vody no matter if they are hiding in the liver, lungs, kidney,

intestines,

> gut etc??

>

> 1) Let me know your thoughts on this - I am willing to do an

experiment for

> a few days with this

>

> 2) Also let me know what you suggest regardign miliampere and

voltage -

> today i am using 0.3 miliampere with 9 volt battery - if doing this

> experiemtn should I then increase the voltage to 4x9 volt =36 volt

and maybe

> 1 or 2 miliampere? (I do have a 100 k potentiometer i could use

for that

> purpose)

>

> Best,

> Jakob

>

>

> _____

>

> From: bobluhrs@m... [mailto:bobluhrs@m...]

> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 6:41 AM

>

> Subject: where to put

electrodes...from our

> files..

>

>

>

> Wait! Before you place the electrodes, or you should, have a plan.

> Why: the germ has to be included as PART of the circuit!!! If

the

> current runs through the body but misses the germ, the germ gets

> away!

> You don't want the germ to get away, do you? Of course not!

>

> The bloodstream, like the wrist arteries, is good for most people

> since they can use help there. But often it is only a minor part

> and will provide only temporary or superficial relief.

>

> Here's a list of the places and diseases based on our files, and

> what worked:

>

> 1. Hep-c liver in front and behind using large pads, 5 " round

> 2. HIV intestinal area from stomach to below belly-button.

> 3. Shingles bloodstream to get rid of baggage virus, and along

rib

> cage

> 4. HPV ankles and groin

> 5. Herpes 2 lumbar area using pads in back and in front near

> genital area

> 6. Anthrax lungs area, use lots of pads and lots of current,

also

> take anti-biotics per doctor's treatment plans.

> 7. Headcolds one electrode in mouth or under chin, other on top

of

> head

> 8. Sore throats one electrode in mouth other behind neck (can be

> pads,

> one on throat other behind neck)

> 9. Insect, spider, snake, etc bites: apply electrodes on each

side

> of

> area, turn current up high. Move it around the area.

> 10. Herpes sores, same as above in 9.

> 11. Warts, same

> 12. Abcessed teeth or toothaches, gum diseases, jawbone infections,

> etc alongside the outer or inner cheeks (seems to work the same)

> parallel to gumline

> 13. Sinuses along upper gumline, either inside or outside

cheeks.

> Teeth roots are connected to sinuses and form a complete circuit

> through them. Works just great.

> 14. Infected toes, fingers, etc. One electrode on each side, move

> around, as in bites, sores, warts, etc.

>

> There will be more to add to the list, I'm sure!

>

> bG

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not

medical

> advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by

joing, you

> agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

damages from

> anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

individually. We are

> interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

repeatability, or

> whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

understanding,

> good luck researching. --bG

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Some of the Rife boards using foot pads recommend gradually increasing the

current until you can feel it and then turning it down to, or just below,

the point where you can feel it. If you have a meter you can see the

amperage this point is.

On this board some of us have found that .5mA is about the maximum to use

that will be effective and not cause skin damage. Often much lower is more

effective, and can be used longer. Seeing how macho you can be is not a wise

thing to do.

In researching many microelectricity sites I have seen that successful cures

have been recorded by the medical profession, (mending bones, healing

diabetic sores, etc.) using microamperages; 1000th of a milliamp. (.5mA

would be 500uA). 100uA (which would be .1mA) of current was often used.

Dick

where to put electrodes...from our

> files..

>

>

>

> Wait! Before you place the electrodes, or you should, have a plan.

> Why: the germ has to be included as PART of the circuit!!! If the

> current runs through the body but misses the germ, the germ gets

> away!

> You don't want the germ to get away, do you? Of course not!

>

> The bloodstream, like the wrist arteries, is good for most people

> since they can use help there. But often it is only a minor part

> and will provide only temporary or superficial relief.

>

> Here's a list of the places and diseases based on our files, and

> what worked:

>

> 1. Hep-c liver in front and behind using large pads, 5 " round

> 2. HIV intestinal area from stomach to below belly-button.

> 3. Shingles bloodstream to get rid of baggage virus, and along rib

> cage

> 4. HPV ankles and groin

> 5. Herpes 2 lumbar area using pads in back and in front near

> genital area

> 6. Anthrax lungs area, use lots of pads and lots of current, also

> take anti-biotics per doctor's treatment plans.

> 7. Headcolds one electrode in mouth or under chin, other on top of

> head

> 8. Sore throats one electrode in mouth other behind neck (can be

> pads,

> one on throat other behind neck)

> 9. Insect, spider, snake, etc bites: apply electrodes on each side

> of

> area, turn current up high. Move it around the area.

> 10. Herpes sores, same as above in 9.

> 11. Warts, same

> 12. Abcessed teeth or toothaches, gum diseases, jawbone infections,

> etc alongside the outer or inner cheeks (seems to work the same)

> parallel to gumline

> 13. Sinuses along upper gumline, either inside or outside cheeks.

> Teeth roots are connected to sinuses and form a complete circuit

> through them. Works just great.

> 14. Infected toes, fingers, etc. One electrode on each side, move

> around, as in bites, sores, warts, etc.

>

> There will be more to add to the list, I'm sure!

>

> bG

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

> devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

> advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing,

> you

> agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from

> anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We

> are

> interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability,

> or

> whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding,

> good luck researching. --bG

>

>

>

>