Re: Another start...

September 4, 2004

Sorry but I forgot to report that I have the Godzilla set at the 4 Hz setting.

Also that this morning I awoke with a headeache, seemed centered around the

sinus area nd toward the the back of the head. My right ear is still blocked but

remains without pain and no sign of infection (no redness nor inflammation).

Headache has since gone away with no treatment. I'm not on any medications now

and have reduced smoking to under 10 cigarettes/day but will totally quit now. I

still don't have much of an appetite but will try to improve my diet in qaulity

and quantity.

Another start...

Another start to the journal. It's been a strange week; I've had to

deal with a slew of computer viruses; getting ready for the big move

up north; and now the predictions of hurricane " Frances " , (funny

that was my mothers middle name). There seem to always be a million

reasons not to do the treatments, just that it's a lot of time to

schedule every day to lay down with a bunch of electrodes hooked up

to me but I have to keep my mind on the fact that it's better than

relying on other people to take care of me.

Sept. 3, 2004-I started treatment at 8:30 pm and kept it up until

10:30 pm. I started at 0.5 mA which shouldn't be too bad especially

spread out over 6 electrodes (electrode placement for HIV/AIDS.),

except the abdominal electrode started tingling and so backed it off

to 0.5 and kept it there for an hour. At each limb legs and arms the

electrodes were placed at the suggested sites over arteries. The

abdominal electrode is a 3 inch TENS pad. For the head electrode I

used a 1-1/2 " square piece of foil with an alligator clip attached

to the electrode and a square piece of face cloth soaked in

distilled water and baking soda. The attachment was really

precarious and didn't seem to have good contact throughout the

entire treatment (used a piece of plastic wrap secured with tape and

wrapped around the head and chin.)

At 9:30 pm I kicked it up a bit, to 0.75 mA and was able to

tolerate that fairly well and then again at 10:00 pm I tried to kick

it up a notch. I couldn't keep it at 1.0 mA and settled for 0.95 mA.

I tolerated that fairly well but about 15 minutes before tha end of

the session I really started to feel antsy? I just felt like all of

my muscles in my legs and arms were just so restless and needed to

get up and walk around or move, just like a " restless legs " type

syndrome. I thought this may have been due to just having to sit

still for too long but this went away as soon as the Godzilla was

turned off. So maybe I'll decrease the flow if this happens again.

Any comments or suuggestions would be appreciated. It seems that if

I have to do this type of electrode placement then the biggest

problem would be comfort and trying to assure that the charge to

each electrode is evenly and accurately distributed. I can use a

regular 1-1/2 " TENS pad for the head electrode and use conductive

gel to keep it in place. I think the problem is the abdominal lead

that it's too small. I could use 2 X 3 " electrodes and that would

increase the surface area and ability to tolerate increased

electrical flow, or should I just keep it at this level and wait for

my lab results?

Another concern is I know that with HIV Beck used Ozonated water to

relieve the symptoms of " die off " or " Hertz-heimers " but unless this

is really necessary I'd prefer to do the 'magnetic pulsing' over

known areas of HIV sequestering in the tissues, i.e. Lymph glands,

thymus, etc.

As I said any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

On an off note, I'm a Registered Nurse and although I haven't worked

in quite awhile I'm trying to figure out what I should do about

returning to work! I know it's odd to be planning returning to work

so early but it's a real concern. I just can't imagine going back

into a field that is so obviously anti-health. I'm just looking for

something that be an obvious link that my previous experience

wouldn't go to waste and that I'd still be able to make a living at.

Yes, I've realized the secondary gains that Dr. Beck speaks of but

that's one of the things that I hate about my situation is being

forced to live on a less than viable income. I just can't imagine

what I could do to start working again and not jeopardize my health

or the things I've come to realize jeopardize the health, well-

being, and financial resources of others that are seeking to get

well. (Okay, that's not asking for medical advice so feel free to

offer suggestions!)

The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices

and other things useful in research. These are free to members. Membership is

free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of speech as medical

advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay people, not experts,

not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The information on this group

is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health

authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble

out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved

with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences

according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might

inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College

labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

understanding, good luck researching. --bG

September 4, 2004

, you're on a good trip here, I'm SO glad you are persisting

with it. Just keep your focus, try the washcloth idea below. Drink

water to help flush toxins, but there's a few days of headachy

sleepy feelings that won't respond to anything, not even the

ozonated water, just get through it with faith. It isn't constant

and it does not recur, the symptoms even feel " phony " , and you can

tell it's not real flu. Just " flu-like " .

Here's what I'd do: Cloth pad around 5 " round or square, or 5x7 "

oblong would be better, make two using washcloths, just cut them,

wet them, attach with alligator clips (just cut and strip a wire,

attach clips, you can figure it out).

Fold it up with a slice of alum foil in between, then clip to the

foil. That may be a bit more even than just the cloth, but just the

cloth will also work.

Place one pad over intestinal area, one opposite in the back, put on

a covering belt of plastic like plastic food wrap or other stuff,

spandex, whatever, and go to bed. In the am, remove it. The TENS

pads will not compare to this.

Do that awhile, and once every few days sit down with the other

bunch of electrodes to hit the bloodstrean via two wrists, two

ankles, alternated or both at same time. Once a week hit the head

instead. This needs only an hour or so every couple days. Make a

godzilla Lite, and carry in pocket. When on the go, place inside

sleeve, battery in shirt, wires on one wrist. Do 20 minutes

reversing the electrodes at 10 min, transfer to other wrist, same

thing. Or, just do two wrists for 10 min and quit. This is

optional, but nice to have.

The " super-pads " on the intestinal area is the key to immediate and

heavy reductions in the virus. Here's the technical stuff that I

base my comments on:

Important: Recent research!!! HIV was found in high concentrations

in intestinal walls on autopsy of young men who died of AIDS. More

than 90% of the HIV in their bodies was there, the rest scattered

around in far smaller quantities. The gut HIV were all wild strains

of the virus. It is now known that wild strains of HIV will NOT

live in the bloodstream in any significant numbers.

The current thinking in the med world is that the wild strains

mutate in the gut area into forms that can live in the blood. Once

they can live in blood, they are picked up by the blood and carried

around the body.

cheers,

Bob

> Another start to the journal. It's been a strange week; I've had

to

September 4, 2004

Good, . You want the 1/30 hertz setting. It will cut down the

time needed. Reversing current at 4 hertz undoes the effect to some

extent.

You create ions by running a current in one direction. You " undo "

that when current reverses. The germ is left with a net charge of

zero=no effect.

If the current is more slowly reversed the ionizing effect is higher

than if it is constantly and quickly reversed. Plain DC current is

the most effective, in my opinion. Most effective means gets the

most germs in the shortest time.

One fellow here used 4 hertz for a year, then dc. His levels of Hep-

c fell 99 percent in 12 weeks on the dc. In other words, 4 hertz

left a lot behind, even after a year.

I'm not claiming to be smart, or want to change the Beck protocol,

this is just what happened. If you insist on following the 4 hertz

idea, I'd say it will not entirely get them all, and it will take a

long time, and it may never be over with. Up to you, I've been

saying this almost 3 years now: stay as close to straight DC as you

can. Nobody believes it, either.

bG

> Sorry but I forgot to report that I have the Godzilla set at the 4

Hz setting. Also that this morning I awoke with a headeache, seemed

centered around the sinus area nd toward the the back of the head.

My right ear is still blocked but remains without pain and no sign

of infection (no redness nor inflammation). Headache has since gone

away with no treatment. I'm not on any medications now and have

reduced smoking to under 10 cigarettes/day but will totally quit

now. I still don't have much of an appetite but will try to improve

my diet in qaulity and quantity.

> Another start...

>

> Another start to the journal. It's been a strange week; I've had

to

> deal with a slew of computer viruses; getting ready for the big

move

> up north; and now the predictions of hurricane " Frances " , (funny

> that was my mothers middle name). There seem to always be a

million

> reasons not to do the treatments, just that it's a lot of time

to

> schedule every day to lay down with a bunch of electrodes hooked

up

> to me but I have to keep my mind on the fact that it's better

than

> relying on other people to take care of me.

>

> Sept. 3, 2004-I started treatment at 8:30 pm and kept it up

until

> 10:30 pm. I started at 0.5 mA which shouldn't be too bad

especially

> spread out over 6 electrodes (electrode placement for

HIV/AIDS.),

> except the abdominal electrode started tingling and so backed it

off

> to 0.5 and kept it there for an hour. At each limb legs and arms

the

> electrodes were placed at the suggested sites over arteries. The

> abdominal electrode is a 3 inch TENS pad. For the head electrode

I

> used a 1-1/2 " square piece of foil with an alligator clip

attached

> to the electrode and a square piece of face cloth soaked in

> distilled water and baking soda. The attachment was really

> precarious and didn't seem to have good contact throughout the

> entire treatment (used a piece of plastic wrap secured with tape

and

> wrapped around the head and chin.)

>

> At 9:30 pm I kicked it up a bit, to 0.75 mA and was able to

> tolerate that fairly well and then again at 10:00 pm I tried to

kick

> it up a notch. I couldn't keep it at 1.0 mA and settled for 0.95

mA.

> I tolerated that fairly well but about 15 minutes before tha end

of

> the session I really started to feel antsy? I just felt like all

of

> my muscles in my legs and arms were just so restless and needed

to

> get up and walk around or move, just like a " restless legs " type

> syndrome. I thought this may have been due to just having to sit

> still for too long but this went away as soon as the Godzilla

was

> turned off. So maybe I'll decrease the flow if this happens

again.

>

> Any comments or suuggestions would be appreciated. It seems that

if

> I have to do this type of electrode placement then the biggest

> problem would be comfort and trying to assure that the charge to

> each electrode is evenly and accurately distributed. I can use a

> regular 1-1/2 " TENS pad for the head electrode and use

conductive

> gel to keep it in place. I think the problem is the abdominal

lead

> that it's too small. I could use 2 X 3 " electrodes and that

would

> increase the surface area and ability to tolerate increased

> electrical flow, or should I just keep it at this level and wait

for

> my lab results?

>

> Another concern is I know that with HIV Beck used Ozonated water

to

> relieve the symptoms of " die off " or " Hertz-heimers " but unless

this

> is really necessary I'd prefer to do the 'magnetic pulsing' over

> known areas of HIV sequestering in the tissues, i.e. Lymph

glands,

> thymus, etc.

>

> As I said any comments or suggestions would be greatly

appreciated.

>

> On an off note, I'm a Registered Nurse and although I haven't

worked

> in quite awhile I'm trying to figure out what I should do about

> returning to work! I know it's odd to be planning returning to

work

> so early but it's a real concern. I just can't imagine going

back

> into a field that is so obviously anti-health. I'm just looking

for

> something that be an obvious link that my previous experience

> wouldn't go to waste and that I'd still be able to make a living

at.

> Yes, I've realized the secondary gains that Dr. Beck speaks of

but

> that's one of the things that I hate about my situation is being

> forced to live on a less than viable income. I just can't

imagine

> what I could do to start working again and not jeopardize my

health

> or the things I've come to realize jeopardize the health, well-

> being, and financial resources of others that are seeking to get

> well. (Okay, that's not asking for medical advice so feel free

to

> offer suggestions!)

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla devices and other things useful in research. These are

free to members. Membership is free, but you agree to be on your

own, not take our freedom of speech as medical advice. We are not

doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay people, not experts, not

healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The information on this

group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT

doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical

advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There

are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical

advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to

the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might

inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein

Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot

say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical

benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --

bG

>

September 4, 2004

As a nurse, your job is always going to help them, even if the

treatments are destructive, because eventually it will educate both

doctors and patients about life and science. Your work is greatly

appreciated. Be proud to be a misunderstood benefactor, you're in

great company.

Life choices often mean paying the piper, I think people do know

that.

bG

> Hi,

>

> I'm just starting into school to train for being an RN. I don't

know if

> I can stand it but really want something that can result with

dependable

> employment. There are so many things that are not hospital care.

Try

> an agency. That's often short term work to see what you like

and/or

> tolerate. There's often hospice work which, I guess, takes a

certain

> mindset. There's a lot of homecare these days with hospitals

tossing

> patients out before they are ready and is not usually so high

stress or

> so anti life. Would you believe it, there is a Christian Science

nurses

> association. For people who need care but are refusing certain

classes

> of treatment.

>

> On an off note, I'm a Registered Nurse and although I haven't

worked

> in quite awhile I'm trying to figure out what I should do about

> returning to work! I know it's odd to be planning returning to

work

> so early but it's a real concern. I just can't imagine going back

> into a field that is so obviously anti-health. I'm just looking

for

> something that be an obvious link that my previous experience

> wouldn't go to waste and that I'd still be able to make a living

at.

> Yes, I've realized the secondary gains that Dr. Beck speaks of but

> that's one of the things that I hate about my situation is being

> forced to live on a less than viable income. I just can't imagine

> what I could do to start working again and not jeopardize my

health

> or the things I've come to realize jeopardize the health, well-

> being, and financial resources of others that are seeking to get

> well. (Okay, that's not asking for medical advice so feel free to

> offer suggestions!)

>

> >

September 6, 2004

Hi ,

I realize tha different venues that I could try in Nursing, except I know that

almost every route I might choose they would require a year of current med/surg

experience. I suppose we all have to make a living but I can't imagine having

someone diagnosed with anythingg atthis point that I wouldn't feel as though

" Jeez there's a much cheaper and better way to deal with illness. " Of course any

mention of alternative treatments would be considered a conflict of intrerest.

Although I could always tell them to check in !

I really just need to buckle down and start a refresher course. But thanks for

your help and good luck wiyh your own career.

Another start...

Hi,

I'm just starting into school to train for being an RN. I don't know if

I can stand it but really want something that can result with dependable

employment. There are so many things that are not hospital care. Try

an agency. That's often short term work to see what you like and/or

tolerate. There's often hospice work which, I guess, takes a certain

mindset. There's a lot of homecare these days with hospitals tossing

patients out before they are ready and is not usually so high stress or

so anti life. Would you believe it, there is a Christian Science nurses

association. For people who need care but are refusing certain classes

of treatment.