Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 I have difficulty visualizing the statements you made below. Would tens pads work as well, or do you need them with a greater surface area? Can you describe the magnetic belt in detail? Dave I attach the wires to a stainless steel 5 " diameter plate- bottom of a dog bowl- sanwiched between a piece of vinyl table placemat, and then 3 layers of towel, and then one layer of linen, sewed at the edges. Make several cuts into the steel to give it flexibility. Soak in tap water. I choose tap water to keep things simple. I bought a real nice magnetic belt from Rite Aid pharmacy for $30. Wear the pads over the liver ad opposite on the back for several hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 If you do a check on the conductivity of metals, you will find that aluminum is not considered a good quality conductor of electricity which is why aluminum wiring is not used in your homes and when they did use it, it was shortly thereafter stopped as it has too high a resistance and gets hot and there is an oxidation of the metal. YOu will find that copper is still considered your best conductor for cost, silver being a much higher conductivity, but very expensive. What you use in your zapper, is i guess up to you, but i am sure there are a few here that have enough experience to know which metals or devices you can get in the hardware or electronices store that will serve the application best. YOu are looking for the greatest conductivity of electrons through your body if i understand these units correctly. randy ***************** RESPECTFULLY, Randy Van Heusden randysvh@... http://www.angelfire.com/home/randysvh ***************** RESPECTFULLY, Randy Van Heusden randysvh@... http://www.angelfire.com/home/randysvh Re: Re: < > The magnetic belt is a good quality velcro, support type thing, similar to a back support. The magnets have no bearing on the pads. I only mentioned them for description. I used the aluminum foil in the very beginning, but heard several cautions against aluminum, so I changed to steel. Bob: what's the story on aluminum? Is there some kind of transfer to the body, or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 If you do a check on the conductivity of metals, you will find that aluminum is not considered a good quality conductor of electricity which is why aluminum wiring is not used in your homes and when they did use it, it was shortly thereafter stopped as it has too high a resistance and gets hot and there is an oxidation of the metal. YOu will find that copper is still considered your best conductor for cost, silver being a much higher conductivity, but very expensive. What you use in your zapper, is i guess up to you, but i am sure there are a few here that have enough experience to know which metals or devices you can get in the hardware or electronices store that will serve the application best. YOu are looking for the greatest conductivity of electrons through your body if i understand these units correctly. randy ***************** RESPECTFULLY, Randy Van Heusden randysvh@... http://www.angelfire.com/home/randysvh ***************** RESPECTFULLY, Randy Van Heusden randysvh@... http://www.angelfire.com/home/randysvh Re: Re: < > The magnetic belt is a good quality velcro, support type thing, similar to a back support. The magnets have no bearing on the pads. I only mentioned them for description. I used the aluminum foil in the very beginning, but heard several cautions against aluminum, so I changed to steel. Bob: what's the story on aluminum? Is there some kind of transfer to the body, or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 the metal used is often debated. it's not going to matter in practice. stainless seems to have less hot spots than other metals, eg: gold, etc. I've used em all. the limit resistor, since you asked, is 15k as a default. the values between 5k and 100k have been tried, and everyone seems to fit in there somewhere. the comfort level determines the resistor value. a 1/4 or 1/2 watt value (use cheapest) is fine. 4-6v will work without a limiting resistor, depending on sensitivity of the user to electricity. a 9v battery is the right size for a portable device, but has to be tamed to 4-6v, otherwise it's too hot. a variable resistor in series with a fixed resistor is used in godzilla. so, you can adjust the dial to give an exact level that works for you, but it can never go fully to zero and hit you with the whole battery charge. that is all godzilla is, except we have found it's preferred to have a cheap meter in series with one output lead to see the current (.1mA-2.5mA range with 4 9v batteries). this is needed for research reports. one case means nothing to the world, though a lot to the person, unless it's well-documented. we're getting better at that. but, you still have lots of questions so the procedures have not been gathered into a coherent whole--yet. I have only so mucht time for it. using 4 9v's (36 volts) has some strangely better results, we don't understand fully, but that's the design. it will work on everything from infants to horses. you must NEVER use an AC adapter, as they can get hit with spikes and fail, and you are risking your life that way. bG > If you do a check on the conductivity of metals, you will find that > aluminum is not considered a good quality conductor of electricity which > is why aluminum wiring is not used in your homes and when they did use > it, it was shortly thereafter stopped as it has too high a resistance > and gets hot and there is an oxidation of the metal. YOu will find that > copper is still considered your best conductor for cost, silver being a > much higher conductivity, but very expensive. What you use in your > zapper, is i guess up to you, but i am sure there are a few here that > have enough experience to know which metals or devices you can get in > the hardware or electronices store that will serve the application best. > > YOu are looking for the greatest conductivity of electrons through your > body if i understand these units correctly. > > randy > > > ***************** > RESPECTFULLY, > Randy Van Heusden > randysvh@w... > http://www.angelfire.com/home/randysvh > > ***************** > RESPECTFULLY, > Randy Van Heusden > randysvh@w... > http://www.angelfire.com/home/randysvh > > Re: Re: > > < > > > > The magnetic belt is a good quality velcro, support type thing, > similar > to a back support. The magnets have no bearing on the pads. I > only > mentioned them for description. > I used the aluminum foil in the very beginning, but heard > several > cautions against aluminum, so I changed to steel. > Bob: what's the story on aluminum? Is there some kind of > transfer to > the body, or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 the metal used is often debated. it's not going to matter in practice. stainless seems to have less hot spots than other metals, eg: gold, etc. I've used em all. the limit resistor, since you asked, is 15k as a default. the values between 5k and 100k have been tried, and everyone seems to fit in there somewhere. the comfort level determines the resistor value. a 1/4 or 1/2 watt value (use cheapest) is fine. 4-6v will work without a limiting resistor, depending on sensitivity of the user to electricity. a 9v battery is the right size for a portable device, but has to be tamed to 4-6v, otherwise it's too hot. a variable resistor in series with a fixed resistor is used in godzilla. so, you can adjust the dial to give an exact level that works for you, but it can never go fully to zero and hit you with the whole battery charge. that is all godzilla is, except we have found it's preferred to have a cheap meter in series with one output lead to see the current (.1mA-2.5mA range with 4 9v batteries). this is needed for research reports. one case means nothing to the world, though a lot to the person, unless it's well-documented. we're getting better at that. but, you still have lots of questions so the procedures have not been gathered into a coherent whole--yet. I have only so mucht time for it. using 4 9v's (36 volts) has some strangely better results, we don't understand fully, but that's the design. it will work on everything from infants to horses. you must NEVER use an AC adapter, as they can get hit with spikes and fail, and you are risking your life that way. bG > If you do a check on the conductivity of metals, you will find that > aluminum is not considered a good quality conductor of electricity which > is why aluminum wiring is not used in your homes and when they did use > it, it was shortly thereafter stopped as it has too high a resistance > and gets hot and there is an oxidation of the metal. YOu will find that > copper is still considered your best conductor for cost, silver being a > much higher conductivity, but very expensive. What you use in your > zapper, is i guess up to you, but i am sure there are a few here that > have enough experience to know which metals or devices you can get in > the hardware or electronices store that will serve the application best. > > YOu are looking for the greatest conductivity of electrons through your > body if i understand these units correctly. > > randy > > > ***************** > RESPECTFULLY, > Randy Van Heusden > randysvh@w... > http://www.angelfire.com/home/randysvh > > ***************** > RESPECTFULLY, > Randy Van Heusden > randysvh@w... > http://www.angelfire.com/home/randysvh > > Re: Re: > > < > > > > The magnetic belt is a good quality velcro, support type thing, > similar > to a back support. The magnets have no bearing on the pads. I > only > mentioned them for description. > I used the aluminum foil in the very beginning, but heard > several > cautions against aluminum, so I changed to steel. > Bob: what's the story on aluminum? Is there some kind of > transfer to > the body, or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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