Re: Hepatitis-C, HIV, synergistic use of CS.

[Guest guest]

Bob, thank you for your response and the plethora of information.

I'm attacking HCV on many fronts and don't expect zilling to totally change

my situation by itself. My feeling is that the supplements and cleanings I'm

doing, along with electrification will keep the dragon at bay and if,

perchance it eliminates HCV, hooray!

I'm fortunate in that I only have stage one liver damage. With that the

doctors wanted to put me on the standard chemo. I refused as I know too many

people with irreversible side effects and with only a 40% cure rate for my

genotype, geno1, I feel that I have time to explore natural options.

I found out about my HCV in May of this year. I figure I've had it for 35

years. In June my viral load was close to 2 million. After starting taking

supplements, this dropped to 435,000 in August. In November after starting

using a Terminator II zapper, my viral load dropped to 325,000. This last

blood test was done two weeks after I had emergency gallbladder surgery. I'm

pleased with the results. I feel it's the multi-directional approach that is

responsible for the positive change.

I'm not saying that I'm against the traditional chemo and I'd avail myself

to it if my liver was at stage 3 or I was experiencing other major liver

problems but, I'm fortunate, and my blood tests are all within the normal

ranges. I'm just not willing to risk putting my body through chemo unless I

feel certain that it is the only option I have for a chance of a fairly

normal life.

One thing I did learn in doing research on alternative treatments for HCV

was that Sloan-Kettering is doing research trials with Sho-Saiko-To, an

herbal supplement from Japan that has been used there for many years with

positive results. The first trial is over with very favourable results.

I will try the CS. I made some with the attachment I got from V with my

Godzilla. I don't have any idea what strength it makes. If anyone has any

info on this could you please e-mail me off list to respect the need to not

start a CS discussion?

I'm very happy to learn about zilling. So far it has made a positive

difference to my life and I feel that I've found a great tool for keeping

sickness at bay. I appreciate the discussions in the group and although I

usually only lurk, I try and absorb the info here. I get befuddled with the

electrical 'nerd' talk as I'm not electrical savvy. That's why I'm so glad I

was able to purchase a Godzilla already made. Now that I have it and am

using it I plan on making the apprentice ziller to keep next to my bed.

BTW, I forgot to mention that I was coming down with a sore throat, the

first signs of a cold for me, and zilled my throat and the soreness went

away. Came back a little bit the next day and I repeated the treatment and

it has left for good. Knock on wood!

I sincerely wish you all a wonderful holiday season!

Diane

Hepatitis-C, HIV, synergistic use of

CS.

>

>

>

> It appears that too many with Hep-c aren't getting fully resolved.

> They get some relief, important and great relief, but the numbers

> and other factors show the disease is hanging on.

>

> What to do. Though it's outside the scope of our research, and I

> don't want Colloidal Silver topics to manage (too many other good CS

> groups out there), if I had HCV (or HIV or both) CS would be one

> step I'd take.

>

> I have an SG6 from Silvergen that works fine to make clear, small-

> particle CS automatically at adjustable strengths, and it was under

> 200 dollars originally. This machine I have confidence in as the CS

> is always very clear and the microscopic photos show its particles

> to be close to those made with expensive AC equipment. I'm not

> endorsing it, any such unit will also do. But do compare the

> features and particle sizes.

>

> CS gets into the digestive system and is a mild germicide. It isn't

> quite up to an antibiotic strength, but it seems to be less prone to

> resistivity of microbes. Also, it may be capable of suppressing

> virus? I think it may be quite good that way. It's used in burn

> wards to spray over large areas to cover a variety of germs, but is

> generally considered unsuitable for systemic, aggressive infections,

> being rather mild compared to selected anti-biotics. I'm not a

> doctor, but I've heard this here and there when asking them about

> it.

>

> Combining CS with DC current on the liver may be an ideal punch,

> since you have a synergistic effect: CS is charged and a DC current

> can drive it deeper into the liver cells or gut (for HIV) where it

> can hopefully reduce the number of virus.

>

> How much CS? What strength? That's really up to you. At 5-10ppm

> (the sg6 maker can adjust to that range) some say 8 oz a day? I

> don't really have any ideas here and I don't really want to start

> the discussion, either. But if you do it, please report what you

> did with it, along with the DC electrical information as well.

>

> One point is good to remember: taking smaller doses at intervals

> will assure the stuff is present more often. A lot of things might

> work if only the body would not rid itself of them so fast. So,

> taking 2 oz every 4 hours for 16 hours makes more sense than taking

> 8 oz all at once, it would seem.

>

> While applying DC, it might make sense to take CS just before, and

> sip while using the DC, to ensure that they are both there at once.

>

> Wrist or ankle electrification is probably going to prove essential,

> at mild current levels as well as the liver and gut areas. If HIV

> or HCV is in the blood, the microbes will need to be inactivated

> there, or they will flood into the liver or other organs and

> continually reinfect.

>

> I don't think all this bother is too much to ask for a life. Lots

> of people put up with lots more troubles, like wheel chairs, casts,

> artificial limbs, physiotherapy, drug rehabs, chemo, you name it.

> This is still pretty mild stuff compared to those.

>

> One more very important point: It's more sensible to try

> alternatives after mainstream medicine has failed. HCV has almost a

> 50 percent recovery rate with Peg-Int in many types of HCV, for

> instance. I'd never ignore the standard medical remedies, since we

> don't know yet this will work EVERY time, just that we've seen

> encouraging stories, especially with local infections! They are

> simple to research. But systemic infections like HIV, HCV, Lyme's

> etc? Do they present a bigger challenge? You bet. We have NO full

> remissions yet that didn't involve mainstream drugs on HCV, btw.

>

> Lacking funds to do " big research " it is still worthwhile (I think)

> to present the ideas in this group in an honest and reasonably

> concise format, free of commercials and claims, so as to provide the

> opportunity for the knowledge to grow, as have other wonderful

> ideas. Anyone can participate not only in their own healing (or

> lack of it) but also in the bringing forth of goodness. That is

> really why we live in the first place, so know that you will enjoy

> that experience no matter the outcome!

>

> Happiest of Holidays to all,

> Bob

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you

agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from

anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are

interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or

whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding,

good luck researching. --bG

>

[Guest guest]

Diane,

I just found this site today (referred from CS group),

and am enthused to learn about Godzilla.

I believe you have chosen the right path in treating

your Hep-C.

I can share the following info with you:

I have had Hep-C for more than 20 years. I have

genotype 2b, which is easiest to treat and supposedly

has a succes rate of 80 percent. With these facts in

mind, I embarked upon the 24-week chemo treatment.

I became undetectable for the virus after 12 weeks

of treatment, and at completion of treatment my doctor

was pretty confident that I was cured.

Bu alas, the dreaded dragon returned, this time sending

my viral load into the stratosphere. Prior to the

chemo Tx, my VL count had ranged between 200,000 and

900,000. Imagine my surprise to find that subsequent

to relapse it had shot up to 2.8 million. I must admit

that the chemo tx did have a positive effect on my

liver. My AST and ALT were in the normal range for

2 years (from the first month of chemo) until fairly

recently.

In January I had a PCR and liver enzyme tests done.

Didn't like the results - VL count was 4.3 million,

and AST, ALT were elevated.

At that point I decided to try Colloidal Silver.

I have had some success so far, but not quite as much

as I had hoped for. After 12 weeks usage my viral

load has gone from 4.3 million to 2.8 million.

I am now in my 16th week of CS Tx. I am planning to

have Viral Load counts done every 12 weeks, and continue

using the CS as long as the VL counts are reduced on

each test.

You are right about permanent damage from the chemo.

I was fortunate not to have any, most likely because

I only did 24 weeks. I am in touch with quite a few

geno type 1A and 1B people, and I can tell you that

Rheumatoid Arthritis and Thyroid problems seem to be

fairly common among them. I believe this could be

due to the fact that Genotype 1A and 1B require 48

weeks of Tx as opposed to 24.

I would appreciate if you would share your

Godzilla experience.

In good health,

Zeppo

> Bob, thank you for your response and the plethora of information.

>

> I'm attacking HCV on many fronts and don't expect zilling to

totally change

> my situation by itself. My feeling is that the supplements and

cleanings I'm

> doing, along with electrification will keep the dragon at bay and

if,

> perchance it eliminates HCV, hooray!

>

> I'm fortunate in that I only have stage one liver damage. With that

the

> doctors wanted to put me on the standard chemo. I refused as I know

too many

> people with irreversible side effects and with only a 40% cure rate

for my

> genotype, geno1, I feel that I have time to explore natural options.

>

> I found out about my HCV in May of this year. I figure I've had it

for 35

> years. In June my viral load was close to 2 million. After starting

taking

> supplements, this dropped to 435,000 in August. In November after

starting

> using a Terminator II zapper, my viral load dropped to 325,000.

This last

> blood test was done two weeks after I had emergency gallbladder

surgery. I'm

> pleased with the results. I feel it's the multi-directional

approach that is

> responsible for the positive change.

>

> I'm not saying that I'm against the traditional chemo and I'd avail

myself

> to it if my liver was at stage 3 or I was experiencing other major

liver

> problems but, I'm fortunate, and my blood tests are all within the

normal

> ranges. I'm just not willing to risk putting my body through chemo

unless I

> feel certain that it is the only option I have for a chance of a

fairly

> normal life.

>

> One thing I did learn in doing research on alternative treatments

for HCV

> was that Sloan-Kettering is doing research trials with Sho-Saiko-

To, an

> herbal supplement from Japan that has been used there for many

years with

> positive results. The first trial is over with very favourable

results.

>

> I will try the CS. I made some with the attachment I got from V

with my

> Godzilla. I don't have any idea what strength it makes. If anyone

has any

> info on this could you please e-mail me off list to respect the

need to not

> start a CS discussion?

>

> I'm very happy to learn about zilling. So far it has made a positive

> difference to my life and I feel that I've found a great tool for

keeping

> sickness at bay. I appreciate the discussions in the group and

although I

> usually only lurk, I try and absorb the info here. I get befuddled

with the

> electrical 'nerd' talk as I'm not electrical savvy. That's why I'm

so glad I

> was able to purchase a Godzilla already made. Now that I have it

and am

> using it I plan on making the apprentice ziller to keep next to my

bed.

>

> BTW, I forgot to mention that I was coming down with a sore throat,

the

> first signs of a cold for me, and zilled my throat and the soreness

went

> away. Came back a little bit the next day and I repeated the

treatment and

> it has left for good. Knock on wood!

>

> I sincerely wish you all a wonderful holiday season!

> Diane

>

>

>

>

> Hepatitis-C, HIV, synergistic

use of

> CS.

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > It appears that too many with Hep-c aren't getting fully resolved.

> > They get some relief, important and great relief, but the numbers

> > and other factors show the disease is hanging on.

> >

> > What to do. Though it's outside the scope of our research, and I

> > don't want Colloidal Silver topics to manage (too many other good

CS

> > groups out there), if I had HCV (or HIV or both) CS would be one

> > step I'd take.

> >

> > I have an SG6 from Silvergen that works fine to make clear, small-

> > particle CS automatically at adjustable strengths, and it was

under

> > 200 dollars originally. This machine I have confidence in as the

CS

> > is always very clear and the microscopic photos show its particles

> > to be close to those made with expensive AC equipment. I'm not

> > endorsing it, any such unit will also do. But do compare the

> > features and particle sizes.

> >

> > CS gets into the digestive system and is a mild germicide. It

isn't

> > quite up to an antibiotic strength, but it seems to be less prone

to

> > resistivity of microbes. Also, it may be capable of suppressing

> > virus? I think it may be quite good that way. It's used in burn

> > wards to spray over large areas to cover a variety of germs, but

is

> > generally considered unsuitable for systemic, aggressive

infections,

> > being rather mild compared to selected anti-biotics. I'm not a

> > doctor, but I've heard this here and there when asking them about

> > it.

> >

> > Combining CS with DC current on the liver may be an ideal punch,

> > since you have a synergistic effect: CS is charged and a DC

current

> > can drive it deeper into the liver cells or gut (for HIV) where it

> > can hopefully reduce the number of virus.

> >

> > How much CS? What strength? That's really up to you. At 5-10ppm

> > (the sg6 maker can adjust to that range) some say 8 oz a day? I

> > don't really have any ideas here and I don't really want to start

> > the discussion, either. But if you do it, please report what you

> > did with it, along with the DC electrical information as well.

> >

> > One point is good to remember: taking smaller doses at intervals

> > will assure the stuff is present more often. A lot of things

might

> > work if only the body would not rid itself of them so fast. So,

> > taking 2 oz every 4 hours for 16 hours makes more sense than

taking

> > 8 oz all at once, it would seem.

> >

> > While applying DC, it might make sense to take CS just before, and

> > sip while using the DC, to ensure that they are both there at

once.

> >

> > Wrist or ankle electrification is probably going to prove

essential,

> > at mild current levels as well as the liver and gut areas. If HIV

> > or HCV is in the blood, the microbes will need to be inactivated

> > there, or they will flood into the liver or other organs and

> > continually reinfect.

> >

> > I don't think all this bother is too much to ask for a life. Lots

> > of people put up with lots more troubles, like wheel chairs,

casts,

> > artificial limbs, physiotherapy, drug rehabs, chemo, you name it.

> > This is still pretty mild stuff compared to those.

> >

> > One more very important point: It's more sensible to try

> > alternatives after mainstream medicine has failed. HCV has

almost a

> > 50 percent recovery rate with Peg-Int in many types of HCV, for

> > instance. I'd never ignore the standard medical remedies, since

we

> > don't know yet this will work EVERY time, just that we've seen

> > encouraging stories, especially with local infections! They are

> > simple to research. But systemic infections like HIV, HCV, Lyme's

> > etc? Do they present a bigger challenge? You bet. We have NO

full

> > remissions yet that didn't involve mainstream drugs on HCV, btw.

> >

> > Lacking funds to do " big research " it is still worthwhile (I

think)

> > to present the ideas in this group in an honest and reasonably

> > concise format, free of commercials and claims, so as to provide

the

> > opportunity for the knowledge to grow, as have other wonderful

> > ideas. Anyone can participate not only in their own healing (or

> > lack of it) but also in the bringing forth of goodness. That is

> > really why we live in the first place, so know that you will enjoy

> > that experience no matter the outcome!

> >

> > Happiest of Holidays to all,

> > Bob

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not

medical

> advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by

joing, you

> agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

damages from

> anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

individually. We are

> interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

repeatability, or

> whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

understanding,

> good luck researching. --bG

> >

[Guest guest]

Zeppo, thanks for your e-mail. I'm curious, how much CS are you taking and in

what strength?

I haven't had blood tests since last November and am due for them at the end of

this week. I'm curious as I've lapsed in using the ziller and haven't been using

the CS. My diet is good although I'm still eating meat. It's hard to fine

quality produce where I live. I feel a need for more juicing.

Good luck to you.

Diane

Hepatitis-C, HIV, synergistic

use of

> CS.

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > It appears that too many with Hep-c aren't getting fully resolved.

> > They get some relief, important and great relief, but the numbers

> > and other factors show the disease is hanging on.

> >

> > What to do. Though it's outside the scope of our research, and I

> > don't want Colloidal Silver topics to manage (too many other good

CS

> > groups out there), if I had HCV (or HIV or both) CS would be one

> > step I'd take.

> >

> > I have an SG6 from Silvergen that works fine to make clear, small-

> > particle CS automatically at adjustable strengths, and it was

under

> > 200 dollars originally. This machine I have confidence in as the

CS

> > is always very clear and the microscopic photos show its particles

> > to be close to those made with expensive AC equipment. I'm not

> > endorsing it, any such unit will also do. But do compare the

> > features and particle sizes.

> >

> > CS gets into the digestive system and is a mild germicide. It

isn't

> > quite up to an antibiotic strength, but it seems to be less prone

to

> > resistivity of microbes. Also, it may be capable of suppressing

> > virus? I think it may be quite good that way. It's used in burn

> > wards to spray over large areas to cover a variety of germs, but

is

> > generally considered unsuitable for systemic, aggressive

infections,

> > being rather mild compared to selected anti-biotics. I'm not a

> > doctor, but I've heard this here and there when asking them about

> > it.

> >

> > Combining CS with DC current on the liver may be an ideal punch,

> > since you have a synergistic effect: CS is charged and a DC

current

> > can drive it deeper into the liver cells or gut (for HIV) where it

> > can hopefully reduce the number of virus.

> >

> > How much CS? What strength? That's really up to you. At 5-10ppm

> > (the sg6 maker can adjust to that range) some say 8 oz a day? I

> > don't really have any ideas here and I don't really want to start

> > the discussion, either. But if you do it, please report what you

> > did with it, along with the DC electrical information as well.

> >

> > One point is good to remember: taking smaller doses at intervals

> > will assure the stuff is present more often. A lot of things

might

> > work if only the body would not rid itself of them so fast. So,

> > taking 2 oz every 4 hours for 16 hours makes more sense than

taking

> > 8 oz all at once, it would seem.

> >

> > While applying DC, it might make sense to take CS just before, and

> > sip while using the DC, to ensure that they are both there at

once.

> >

> > Wrist or ankle electrification is probably going to prove

essential,

> > at mild current levels as well as the liver and gut areas. If HIV

> > or HCV is in the blood, the microbes will need to be inactivated

> > there, or they will flood into the liver or other organs and

> > continually reinfect.

> >

> > I don't think all this bother is too much to ask for a life. Lots

> > of people put up with lots more troubles, like wheel chairs,

casts,

> > artificial limbs, physiotherapy, drug rehabs, chemo, you name it.

> > This is still pretty mild stuff compared to those.

> >

> > One more very important point: It's more sensible to try

> > alternatives after mainstream medicine has failed. HCV has

almost a

> > 50 percent recovery rate with Peg-Int in many types of HCV, for

> > instance. I'd never ignore the standard medical remedies, since

we

> > don't know yet this will work EVERY time, just that we've seen

> > encouraging stories, especially with local infections! They are

> > simple to research. But systemic infections like HIV, HCV, Lyme's

> > etc? Do they present a bigger challenge? You bet. We have NO

full

> > remissions yet that didn't involve mainstream drugs on HCV, btw.

> >

> > Lacking funds to do " big research " it is still worthwhile (I

think)

> > to present the ideas in this group in an honest and reasonably

> > concise format, free of commercials and claims, so as to provide

the

> > opportunity for the knowledge to grow, as have other wonderful

> > ideas. Anyone can participate not only in their own healing (or

> > lack of it) but also in the bringing forth of goodness. That is

> > really why we live in the first place, so know that you will enjoy

> > that experience no matter the outcome!

> >

> > Happiest of Holidays to all,

> > Bob

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not

medical

> advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by

joing, you

> agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

damages from

> anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

individually. We are

> interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

repeatability, or

> whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

understanding,

> good luck researching. --bG

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Dianne,

I have been using Colloidal Silver since mid-January.

My starting dosage was 4 ounces per day, and I quickly

worked my way up tp 20 ounces per day by the end of

January. I stayed on that dosage until mid-April when

I started to experience some dizziness. I reduced the

dosage to 12 ounces per day. The dizziness has disappeared,

though it may be unrelated to Hep-C. I have had the

same problem with dizziness a couple of times in the

past, prior to ever having taken a dose of CS.

I am now working my way back up again towards 20 ounces

per day. I am shooting for 24 ounces per day, maybe even 32.

With CS, you have to be careful when increasing dosage -

it must be done slowly, or a Herxheimer effect could be

produced.

All in all, I am happy with the results so far. I went

from a VL of 4.3 million to 2.8 million in the first 3

months of treatment. If I can continue to reduce th VL

by more than 1 million every 3 months I will be a very

happy camper. I am having VL counts done every 12 weeks

to monitor my progress.

Basically, there are no side effects, except when (as

mentioned above) the dosage is increased too quickly.

However, that problem is simply remedied with a reduction

of dosage for a few days or so.

As far as cost - I bought a good quality CS generator

for $200, there are others out there for $100, or even

less.

The only other cost is the price of distilled water -

between 59 cents and 1.09 per gallon, depending on where

and when I buy it. It works out to pennies per day.

In good health,

Zeppo

====== ======================================

> > Bob, thank you for your response and the plethora of

information.

> >

> > I'm attacking HCV on many fronts and don't expect zilling to

> totally change

> > my situation by itself. My feeling is that the supplements and

> cleanings I'm

> > doing, along with electrification will keep the dragon at bay

and

> if,

> > perchance it eliminates HCV, hooray!

> >

> > I'm fortunate in that I only have stage one liver damage. With

that

> the

> > doctors wanted to put me on the standard chemo. I refused as I

know

> too many

> > people with irreversible side effects and with only a 40% cure

rate

> for my

> > genotype, geno1, I feel that I have time to explore natural

options.

> >

> > I found out about my HCV in May of this year. I figure I've had

it

> for 35

> > years. In June my viral load was close to 2 million. After

starting

> taking

> > supplements, this dropped to 435,000 in August. In November

after

> starting

> > using a Terminator II zapper, my viral load dropped to 325,000.

> This last

> > blood test was done two weeks after I had emergency gallbladder

> surgery. I'm

> > pleased with the results. I feel it's the multi-directional

> approach that is

> > responsible for the positive change.

> >

> > I'm not saying that I'm against the traditional chemo and I'd

avail

> myself

> > to it if my liver was at stage 3 or I was experiencing other

major

> liver

> > problems but, I'm fortunate, and my blood tests are all within

the

> normal

> > ranges. I'm just not willing to risk putting my body through

chemo

> unless I

> > feel certain that it is the only option I have for a chance of

a

> fairly

> > normal life.

> >

> > One thing I did learn in doing research on alternative

treatments

> for HCV

> > was that Sloan-Kettering is doing research trials with Sho-

Saiko-

> To, an

> > herbal supplement from Japan that has been used there for many

> years with

> > positive results. The first trial is over with very favourable

> results.

> >

> > I will try the CS. I made some with the attachment I got from V

> with my

> > Godzilla. I don't have any idea what strength it makes. If

anyone

> has any

> > info on this could you please e-mail me off list to respect the

> need to not

> > start a CS discussion?

> >

> > I'm very happy to learn about zilling. So far it has made a

positive

> > difference to my life and I feel that I've found a great tool

for

> keeping

> > sickness at bay. I appreciate the discussions in the group and

> although I

> > usually only lurk, I try and absorb the info here. I get

befuddled

> with the

> > electrical 'nerd' talk as I'm not electrical savvy. That's why

I'm

> so glad I

> > was able to purchase a Godzilla already made. Now that I have

it

> and am

> > using it I plan on making the apprentice ziller to keep next to

my

> bed.

> >

> > BTW, I forgot to mention that I was coming down with a sore

throat,

> the

> > first signs of a cold for me, and zilled my throat and the

soreness

> went

> > away. Came back a little bit the next day and I repeated the

> treatment and

> > it has left for good. Knock on wood!

> >

> > I sincerely wish you all a wonderful holiday season!

> > Diane

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hepatitis-C, HIV,

synergistic

> use of

> > CS.

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > It appears that too many with Hep-c aren't getting fully

resolved.

> > > They get some relief, important and great relief, but the

numbers

> > > and other factors show the disease is hanging on.

> > >

> > > What to do. Though it's outside the scope of our research,

and I

> > > don't want Colloidal Silver topics to manage (too many other

good

> CS

> > > groups out there), if I had HCV (or HIV or both) CS would be

one

> > > step I'd take.

> > >

> > > I have an SG6 from Silvergen that works fine to make clear,

small-

> > > particle CS automatically at adjustable strengths, and it was

> under

> > > 200 dollars originally. This machine I have confidence in as

the

> CS

> > > is always very clear and the microscopic photos show its

particles

> > > to be close to those made with expensive AC equipment. I'm

not

> > > endorsing it, any such unit will also do. But do compare the

> > > features and particle sizes.

> > >

> > > CS gets into the digestive system and is a mild germicide.

It

> isn't

> > > quite up to an antibiotic strength, but it seems to be less

prone

> to

> > > resistivity of microbes. Also, it may be capable of

suppressing

> > > virus? I think it may be quite good that way. It's used in

burn

> > > wards to spray over large areas to cover a variety of germs,

but

> is

> > > generally considered unsuitable for systemic, aggressive

> infections,

> > > being rather mild compared to selected anti-biotics. I'm not

a

> > > doctor, but I've heard this here and there when asking them

about

> > > it.

> > >

> > > Combining CS with DC current on the liver may be an ideal

punch,

> > > since you have a synergistic effect: CS is charged and a DC

> current

> > > can drive it deeper into the liver cells or gut (for HIV)

where it

> > > can hopefully reduce the number of virus.

> > >

> > > How much CS? What strength? That's really up to you. At 5-

10ppm

> > > (the sg6 maker can adjust to that range) some say 8 oz a

day? I

> > > don't really have any ideas here and I don't really want to

start

> > > the discussion, either. But if you do it, please report what

you

> > > did with it, along with the DC electrical information as well.

> > >

> > > One point is good to remember: taking smaller doses at

intervals

> > > will assure the stuff is present more often. A lot of things

> might

> > > work if only the body would not rid itself of them so fast.

So,

> > > taking 2 oz every 4 hours for 16 hours makes more sense than

> taking

> > > 8 oz all at once, it would seem.

> > >

> > > While applying DC, it might make sense to take CS just

before, and

> > > sip while using the DC, to ensure that they are both there at

> once.

> > >

> > > Wrist or ankle electrification is probably going to prove

> essential,

> > > at mild current levels as well as the liver and gut areas.

If HIV

> > > or HCV is in the blood, the microbes will need to be

inactivated

> > > there, or they will flood into the liver or other organs and

> > > continually reinfect.

> > >

> > > I don't think all this bother is too much to ask for a life.

Lots

> > > of people put up with lots more troubles, like wheel chairs,

> casts,

> > > artificial limbs, physiotherapy, drug rehabs, chemo, you name

it.

> > > This is still pretty mild stuff compared to those.

> > >

> > > One more very important point: It's more sensible to try

> > > alternatives after mainstream medicine has failed. HCV has

> almost a

> > > 50 percent recovery rate with Peg-Int in many types of HCV,

for

> > > instance. I'd never ignore the standard medical remedies,

since

> we

> > > don't know yet this will work EVERY time, just that we've seen

> > > encouraging stories, especially with local infections! They

are

> > > simple to research. But systemic infections like HIV, HCV,

Lyme's

> > > etc? Do they present a bigger challenge? You bet. We have

NO

> full

> > > remissions yet that didn't involve mainstream drugs on HCV,

btw.

> > >

> > > Lacking funds to do " big research " it is still worthwhile (I

> think)

> > > to present the ideas in this group in an honest and reasonably

> > > concise format, free of commercials and claims, so as to

provide

> the

> > > opportunity for the knowledge to grow, as have other wonderful

> > > ideas. Anyone can participate not only in their own healing

(or

> > > lack of it) but also in the bringing forth of goodness. That

is

> > > really why we live in the first place, so know that you will

enjoy

> > > that experience no matter the outcome!

> > >

> > > Happiest of Holidays to all,

> > > Bob

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

> Godzilla

> > devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not

> medical

> > advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but

by

> joing, you

> > agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

> damages from

> > anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

> individually. We are

> > interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

> repeatability, or

> > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

> understanding,

> > good luck researching. --bG

> > >