Guest guest Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 > Hi V > enclosed is the information from the rife list on using direct current > on the body > especially applied to the head above the neck.There are other problems > with > applying DC current to the body > > On occasions in the past, some zapper and other contact frequency > device users, researchers, have tried placing one or both electrodes > on some part of their head, allowing the current to flow through their > brain. > > There is a danger of damage to the brain in doing this if the output > current is DC or contains a DC component such as " DC-offset " , as is the > case with a zapper and the F-SCAN2. > It may also include a number of other contact frequency devices that > I am not familiar with. > > An expert in the field of electrotherapy and the brain, > Dr. C. Beck, D.Sc., stressed this safety warning during > a lecture to an audience. > His lecture covered the technology of electronic therapy brain-tuners. > > Here is the verbatim quote from his audiotaped lecture... > > QUOTE: > > " You can NOT use a TENS unit for a brain-tuner because there is > a built in DC-offset voltage built in deliberately. > Any DC (current) above the neck causes small synaptic polarization, > like electrolysis. > Do NOT use a TENS unit as a brain-tuner! > But you CAN use a brain-tuner for a TENS unit. " > > UNQUOTE: > > > (A TENS unit is normally used as a pain-blocking device on > various parts of the body. -Not on the head.) > > A properly designed and built brain-tuner outputs AC current only, > to a maximum of just 1.5 mA. With special waveforms and > pulse repetition rates, full square waves. > An extremely weak and safe level of current through the brain. > > A recent F-SCAN2 user reported that he experimented by placing > one electrode against the bone area behind one ear, his opposite > hand holding the other electrode. > It was part of his personal research on his tinnitus. > He was able to hear the audio range frequency in his ear. > I hope he was using his F-SCAN's full quare wave at the time, > not a DC-offset setting. > > I note that my F-SCAN2 User Manual states that this device can > optionally output: > a) Sine wave, positive DC-OFFSET current, > Square wave, positive DC-OFFSET, > c) Square FULL WAVE. > > I interpret that to mean that only Square FULL WAVE current > would be safe to use above the neck. > And am assuming that this F-SCAN2 Square FULL WAVE contains > no DC component. > Is this assumption correct? V wrote: >Hi Carole, > >Yes taht is waht happens. but nothing to be scared of. what you do is not switch it while teh electrodes are in the mouth or you can turn down the dial to zero first then switch and then turn it back up again. that way you dont get the flash. nerves can be triggered by electricity that is why you get the flash. there is no harm in it at low levels. But its probably bettre to avoid it if its uncomfortable. > >Take care, > V > >Friday, September 17, 2004, 9:52:58 AM, you wrote: > > > >> I had the same experience while trying to use the godzilla for >>sinuses. It scared me so I haven't used it above the neck since then. >>Carole K. >> >> >> >>>Thanks, V. I put a set of electrodes in my mouth awhile back for >>> >>> >>sinus and when I reversed the current, I could see a white flash each >>time I switched. Crazy. :-) I haven't done it again...and I don't >>seem to be as plugged up as before. I'm not sure, but I would like >>to attribute it to the Godzilla. >>removed] >> >> > > > > > > > >>The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of >>Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, >>not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership is >>free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, >>including moderator, from damages from anything you find here >>whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in >>your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or >>whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your >>understanding, good luck researching. --bG >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Hi tanguay42, The godzilla is different than that unit. The godzilla runs in the Millamp range and that unit on the website runs in the micro amp range. I wolud not rocommend using the godzilla in the same manner. The godzilla puts out too much current. there is one or two other companies tha make similar devices nad there is also a website that tells how to use them and maybe make them yourslef. The main frequencies they use I have heard of is 10 hz and 15 hz. This website you have here uses some higher frequencise and I recognize one of them as a nogier frequency. I do think that these devices seem to be working for sight improvewment Take care, V Thursday, September 16, 2004, 12:56:37 PM, you wrote: > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58 > Would someone check out the above web site and let us know if the > Godzilla is about the same piece of equipment? The only difference > I'm sure of is the pricing: There's is $800. Mine was about $30 or > less. > Dick T. > ==================================================================== > MICROCURRENT STIMULATION RESEARCH STUDY > New York Eye and Ear Infirmary is now undergoing an FDA approved > study on the use of Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular > Degeneration. This is in Phase II. The researchers are looking for > participants for this study. If you are interested, you can contact > at 212-979-4251. > We will provide more details in next months newsletter. > Editor's Note: We have been strong advocates of using Microcurrent > Stimulation on a daily basis as a way to help manage retinal > dystrophies such as macular degeneration for over 5 years now, and > have 3 research studies with abstracts on our website showing the > potential benefits of this type of therapy. > In evaluating different units, we selected the MicroStim 100i LE for > reasons stated on our website. For more information on existing > research studies and the MicroStim 100li Click Here or go to > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58) > ==================================================== > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of > Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, > not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership is > free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, > including moderator, from damages from anything you find here > whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in > your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your > understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 C-M I know thid ain't cataracts, but... In a message dated 9/16/2004 8:24:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, szukidavis@... writes: Vision Works Natural Eye Care Site Welcome to VISION WORKS, Inc.’s September 2004 Newsletter. MICROCURRENT STIMULATION RESEARCH STUDY New York Eye and Ear Infirmary is now undergoing an FDA approved study on the use of Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular Degeneration. This is in Phase II. The researchers are looking for participants for this study. If you are interested, you can contact at 212-979-4251. We will provide more details in next months newsletter. Editor's Note: We have been strong advocates of using Microcurrent Stimulation on a daily basis as a way to help manage retinal dystrophies such as macular degeneration for over 5 years now, and have 3 research studies with abstracts on our website showing the potential benefits of this type of therapy. In evaluating different units, we selected the MicroStim 100i LE for reasons stated on our website. For more information on existing research studies and the MicroStim 100li Click Here or go to http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58) ==================================================== mjh http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 In a message dated 9/16/04 8:55:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, foxhillers@... writes: > I know thid ain't cataracts, but... > > Degeneration of the body occurs when the immune system isn't working correctly and cancer and other illnesses run rampant. Cataracts is a degenerative condition. ailments. As the body heals, the damage to the eyes has already been done so extra help is needed. That is why I sent this information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 In a message dated 9/16/2004 9:38:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, szukidavis@... writes: > I know thid ain't cataracts, but... > > Degeneration of the body occurs when the immune system isn't working correctly and cancer and other illnesses run rampant. Cataracts is a degenerative condition. ailments. As the body heals, the damage to the eyes has already been done so extra help is needed. That is why I sent this information. .. .. >>> OOOPS! thought I was sending this to a friend with cataracts pending. My sweet son with squamous cell carcinoma of the bladder is going into crisis with a highly elevated Calcium and I am a bit distracted..... mjh http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 In a message dated 9/16/04 9:49:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, foxhillers@... writes: > > My sweet son with squamous cell carcinoma of the bladder is going into > crisis > with a highly elevated Calcium and I am a bit distracted..... > I am so sorry to hear this. My prayers are with you and your son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Thanks, V. I put a set of electrodes in my mouth awhile back for sinus and when I reversed the current, I could see a white flash each time I switched. Crazy. :-) I haven't done it again...and I don't seem to be as plugged up as before. I'm not sure, but I would like to attribute it to the Godzilla. Dick T. Re: Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular Degeneration Hi tanguay42, The godzilla is different than that unit. The godzilla runs in the Millamp range and that unit on the website runs in the micro amp range. I wolud not rocommend using the godzilla in the same manner. The godzilla puts out too much current. there is one or two other companies tha make similar devices nad there is also a website that tells how to use them and maybe make them yourslef. The main frequencies they use I have heard of is 10 hz and 15 hz. This website you have here uses some higher frequencise and I recognize one of them as a nogier frequency. I do think that these devices seem to be working for sight improvewment Take care, V Thursday, September 16, 2004, 12:56:37 PM, you wrote: > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58 > Would someone check out the above web site and let us know if the > Godzilla is about the same piece of equipment? The only difference > I'm sure of is the pricing: There's is $800. Mine was about $30 or > less. > Dick T. > ==================================================================== > MICROCURRENT STIMULATION RESEARCH STUDY > New York Eye and Ear Infirmary is now undergoing an FDA approved > study on the use of Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular > Degeneration. This is in Phase II. The researchers are looking for > participants for this study. If you are interested, you can contact > at 212-979-4251. > We will provide more details in next months newsletter. > Editor's Note: We have been strong advocates of using Microcurrent > Stimulation on a daily basis as a way to help manage retinal > dystrophies such as macular degeneration for over 5 years now, and > have 3 research studies with abstracts on our website showing the > potential benefits of this type of therapy. > In evaluating different units, we selected the MicroStim 100i LE for > reasons stated on our website. For more information on existing > research studies and the MicroStim 100li Click Here or go to > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58) > ==================================================== > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of > Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, > not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership is > free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, > including moderator, from damages from anything you find here > whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in > your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your > understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 This looks to me more like a Beck 4hz device, since it speaks of tingling, however it could be straight dc like Godzilla. Maybe a slower freq, like the manual or automatic Godzilla would be more effective than a 4hz or 100hz device. Anyone? Dick P.S. Did you read about Pengov of Elyria, Ohio who was stopped by authorities from selling his vote to the highest bidder on eBay? He apprently had no idea that it was illegal to impersonate a congressman. Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular Degeneration > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58 > > Would someone check out the above web site and let us know if the > Godzilla is about the same piece of equipment? The only difference > I'm sure of is the pricing: There's is $800. Mine was about $30 or > less. > > Dick T. > > ==================================================================== > MICROCURRENT STIMULATION RESEARCH STUDY > > > New York Eye and Ear Infirmary is now undergoing an FDA approved > study on the use of Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular > Degeneration. This is in Phase II. The researchers are looking for > participants for this study. If you are interested, you can contact > at 212-979-4251. > > We will provide more details in next months newsletter. > > Editor's Note: We have been strong advocates of using Microcurrent > Stimulation on a daily basis as a way to help manage retinal > dystrophies such as macular degeneration for over 5 years now, and > have 3 research studies with abstracts on our website showing the > potential benefits of this type of therapy. > > In evaluating different units, we selected the MicroStim 100i LE for > reasons stated on our website. For more information on existing > research studies and the MicroStim 100li Click Here or go to > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58) > ==================================================== > > > > > > > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Hi, I am glad you worte this OFF TOPIC post, as I have been researching macular degeneration, the leading cause of blindness in the USA. laser treatment is very unreliable. The short story is to place tape a neodymium magnet over each eye at night. For example an round 1.5 x 0.5 inch magnet. Magnetism is electricity and vice versa. Always wear sunglasses 100% - UV filter. I bet no one with cancer here has bought a neodymium magnet for their cancer yet. The penetration power of the magnet is at least twice its thickness. My 1 " thick magnet will pick up iron from 3 inches away and distorts the computer monitor images from 18 inches away. moonbeam Szukidavis@... From: szukidavis@... Date sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:16:26 EDT Subject: MICROCURRENT STIMULATION for MACULAR DEGENERATION Send reply to: cures for cancer > Vision Works Natural Eye Care Site > Welcome to VISION WORKS, Inc.’s September 2004 Newsletter. > > MICROCURRENT STIMULATION RESEARCH STUDY > > New York Eye and Ear Infirmary is now undergoing an FDA approved study on the > use of Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular Degeneration. This is in Phase > II. The researchers are looking for participants for this study. If you are > interested, you can contact at 212-979-4251. > > We will provide more details in next months newsletter. > > Editor's Note: We have been strong advocates of using Microcurrent > Stimulation on a daily basis as a way to help manage retinal dystrophies such as macular > degeneration for over 5 years now, and have 3 research studies with abstracts > on our website showing the potential benefits of this type of therapy. > > In evaluating different units, we selected the MicroStim 100i LE for reasons > stated on our website. For more information on existing research studies and > the MicroStim 100li Click Here or go to > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58) > ==================================================== > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2004 Report Share Posted September 16, 2004 Hi, Dick generally I don't reverse current as much in the mouth. Just a little while, like 10 minutes on each side at around .4mA along upper gumline. The current has to cook awhile, not be reversing much in the mouth. If you get it right it will tend to unplug sinuses. I have found using outside the cheeks along upper gumline area also works and is neater. bG > > > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58 > > > Would someone check out the above web site and let us know if the > > Godzilla is about the same piece of equipment? The only difference > > I'm sure of is the pricing: There's is $800. Mine was about $30 or > > less. > > > Dick T. > > > ==================================================================== > > MICROCURRENT STIMULATION RESEARCH STUDY > > > > New York Eye and Ear Infirmary is now undergoing an FDA approved > > study on the use of Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular > > Degeneration. This is in Phase II. The researchers are looking for > > participants for this study. If you are interested, you can contact > > at 212-979-4251. > > > We will provide more details in next months newsletter. > > > Editor's Note: We have been strong advocates of using Microcurrent > > Stimulation on a daily basis as a way to help manage retinal > > dystrophies such as macular degeneration for over 5 years now, and > > have 3 research studies with abstracts on our website showing the > > potential benefits of this type of therapy. > > > In evaluating different units, we selected the MicroStim 100i LE for > > reasons stated on our website. For more information on existing > > research studies and the MicroStim 100li Click Here or go to > > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58) > > ==================================================== > > > > > > > > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of > > Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, > > not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership is > > free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, > > including moderator, from damages from anything you find here > > whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in > > your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or > > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your > > understanding, good luck researching. --bG > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 I had the same experience while trying to use the godzilla for sinuses. It scared me so I haven't used it above the neck since then. Carole K. > Thanks, V. I put a set of electrodes in my mouth awhile back for sinus and when I reversed the current, I could see a white flash each time I switched. Crazy. :-) I haven't done it again...and I don't seem to be as plugged up as before. I'm not sure, but I would like to attribute it to the Godzilla. removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hi Carole, Yes taht is waht happens. but nothing to be scared of. what you do is not switch it while teh electrodes are in the mouth or you can turn down the dial to zero first then switch and then turn it back up again. that way you dont get the flash. nerves can be triggered by electricity that is why you get the flash. there is no harm in it at low levels. But its probably bettre to avoid it if its uncomfortable. Take care, V Friday, September 17, 2004, 9:52:58 AM, you wrote: > I had the same experience while trying to use the godzilla for > sinuses. It scared me so I haven't used it above the neck since then. > Carole K. > >> Thanks, V. I put a set of electrodes in my mouth awhile back for > sinus and when I reversed the current, I could see a white flash each > time I switched. Crazy. :-) I haven't done it again...and I don't > seem to be as plugged up as before. I'm not sure, but I would like > to attribute it to the Godzilla. > removed] > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of > Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, > not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership is > free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, > including moderator, from damages from anything you find here > whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in > your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your > understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 I have the auto godzilla and I use it on the side of my nose and turn it up till I just get the flash then turn it down just a tab. Last night I had it set on the 30Hz and thought it was on 4Hz and keep turning it up, well when the switch came I really got a bright flash. Yours Hank Re: Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular Degeneration I had the same experience while trying to use the godzilla for sinuses. It scared me so I haven't used it above the neck since then. Carole K. > Thanks, V. I put a set of electrodes in my mouth awhile back for sinus and when I reversed the current, I could see a white flash each time I switched. Crazy. :-) I haven't done it again...and I don't seem to be as plugged up as before. I'm not sure, but I would like to attribute it to the Godzilla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 , I also noticed the flashing in my eyes when I treated a tooth infection by putting the electrodes in my mouth. I treated like this for up to an hour at a time, twice a day, for over a week, at less than .5mA, usually around .1mA (or 100uA). Except for the flashing during the treatments I have not noticed any lasting problems, but it did knock the infection. BG did the same thing for his sinus infections, and reported good results. Dick Re: Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular Degeneration > > > Hi tanguay42, > > The godzilla is different than that unit. The godzilla runs in the Millamp range and that unit on the website runs in the micro amp range. I wolud not rocommend using the godzilla in the same manner. The godzilla puts out too much current. there is one or two other companies tha make similar devices nad there is also a website that tells how to use them and maybe make them yourslef. The main frequencies they use I have heard of is 10 hz and 15 hz. > > This website you have here uses some higher frequencise and I recognize one of them as a nogier frequency. I do think that these devices seem to be working for sight improvewment > > Take care, > V > > Thursday, September 16, 2004, 12:56:37 PM, you wrote: > > > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58 > > > Would someone check out the above web site and let us know if the > > Godzilla is about the same piece of equipment? The only difference > > I'm sure of is the pricing: There's is $800. Mine was about $30 or > > less. > > > Dick T. > > > ==================================================================== > > MICROCURRENT STIMULATION RESEARCH STUDY > > > > New York Eye and Ear Infirmary is now undergoing an FDA approved > > study on the use of Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular > > Degeneration. This is in Phase II. The researchers are looking for > > participants for this study. If you are interested, you can contact > > at 212-979-4251. > > > We will provide more details in next months newsletter. > > > Editor's Note: We have been strong advocates of using Microcurrent > > Stimulation on a daily basis as a way to help manage retinal > > dystrophies such as macular degeneration for over 5 years now, and > > have 3 research studies with abstracts on our website showing the > > potential benefits of this type of therapy. > > > In evaluating different units, we selected the MicroStim 100i LE for > > reasons stated on our website. For more information on existing > > research studies and the MicroStim 100li Click Here or go to > > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58) > > ==================================================== > > > > > > > > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of > > Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, > > not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership is > > free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, > > including moderator, from damages from anything you find here > > whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in > > your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or > > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your > > understanding, good luck researching. --bG > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 My electrodes did get slimy and stinky when using them in the mouth, so I would boil them out periodically. If the same results can be achieved using them outside the mouth it would be neater. You would have to find some way to attach them to your cheeks, or hold them there with rubber gloves. Dick Re: Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular Degeneration > Hi, Dick > generally I don't reverse current as much in the mouth. Just a > little while, like 10 minutes on each side at around .4mA along > upper gumline. The current has to cook awhile, not be reversing > much in the mouth. > If you get it right it will tend to unplug sinuses. I have found > using outside the cheeks along upper gumline area also works and is > neater. > > bG > > > > > > > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58 > > > > > Would someone check out the above web site and let us know if > the > > > Godzilla is about the same piece of equipment? The only > difference > > > I'm sure of is the pricing: There's is $800. Mine was about > $30 or > > > less. > > > > > Dick T. > > > > > > ==================================================================== > > > MICROCURRENT STIMULATION RESEARCH STUDY > > > > > > > New York Eye and Ear Infirmary is now undergoing an FDA > approved > > > study on the use of Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular > > > Degeneration. This is in Phase II. The researchers are looking > for > > > participants for this study. If you are interested, you can > contact > > > at 212-979-4251. > > > > > We will provide more details in next months newsletter. > > > > > Editor's Note: We have been strong advocates of using > Microcurrent > > > Stimulation on a daily basis as a way to help manage retinal > > > dystrophies such as macular degeneration for over 5 years now, > and > > > have 3 research studies with abstracts on our website showing > the > > > potential benefits of this type of therapy. > > > > > In evaluating different units, we selected the MicroStim 100i > LE for > > > reasons stated on our website. For more information on > existing > > > research studies and the MicroStim 100li Click Here or go to > > > http://www.visionworksusa.com/products.asp?p_num=58) > > > ==================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of > > > Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech > forum, > > > not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership > is > > > free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, > > > including moderator, from damages from anything you find here > > > whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are > interested in > > > your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or > > > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your > > > understanding, good luck researching. --bG > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Right, anywhere around the optic nerve will cause a flash. The nerve is very sensitive. Brain tuners are available that may work on infections in the head area. They don't cause flashes, since their current is AC switched so fast the eye can't react in time. But, they may not do the trick on some of these germs. I've used Brain Tuner as an electrifier for wrist electrification, hoping it would replace all the others as THE GADGET for everything, but it didn't work well, tended to be very jumpy causing all sorts of shocks and effects. I gave up on it. 's device is essentially godzilla with a waveform, no gonads, and electrodes that can't really reach the germ. bG > > Thanks, V. I put a set of electrodes in my mouth awhile back for > sinus and when I reversed the current, I could see a white flash each > time I switched. Crazy. :-) I haven't done it again...and I don't > seem to be as plugged up as before. I'm not sure, but I would like > to attribute it to the Godzilla. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hank, Didn't you mean 1/30 Hz? That should switch polarity every 15 seconds, making a completed cycle every 30 seconds. Dick P.S. Did you read about Pengov of Elyria, Ohio who was stopped by authorities from selling his vote to the highest bidder on eBay? He apprently had no idea that it was illegal to impersonate a congressman. Re: Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular Degeneration > > > I had the same experience while trying to use the godzilla for > sinuses. It scared me so I haven't used it above the neck since then. > Carole K. > > > Thanks, V. I put a set of electrodes in my mouth awhile back for > sinus and when I reversed the current, I could see a white flash each > time I switched. Crazy. :-) I haven't done it again...and I don't > seem to be as plugged up as before. I'm not sure, but I would like > to attribute it to the Godzilla. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 I don't know what it means, I just looked at the front of the meter and it has 1 Hz, 4 Hz and 30 HZ. the 30 HZ flash each 30 seconds, the other two are a lot faster. Yours Hank Re: Re: Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular Degeneration Hank, Didn't you mean 1/30 Hz? That should switch polarity every 15 seconds, making a completed cycle every 30 seconds. Dick --- Hank's outgoing mail is certified as Virus Free as can be. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.766 / Virus Database: 513 - Release Date: 9/17/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hola May be you can explain me what happend to a patient of mine. After using the silver pulser for 10 minutes for 4 days he became completely blind for 1 all day. Then next day he could see again.????? Now after 3 months of treatment, he has HIV, he he much better. Most of the symptomes are gone. What happend to him???? Cecilio king.carole@... wrote: I had the same experience while trying to use the godzilla for sinuses. It scared me so I haven't used it above the neck since then. Carole K. > Thanks, V. I put a set of electrodes in my mouth awhile back for sinus and when I reversed the current, I could see a white flash each time I switched. Crazy. :-) I haven't done it again...and I don't seem to be as plugged up as before. I'm not sure, but I would like to attribute it to the Godzilla. removed] The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 temp blindness can be hysterical or due to some other cause. Usually the blood of people with HIV in advanced conditions is full of microbes that are quickly killed off. Since they have weakened condition, especially the immune system, they find themselves loaded up with toxins from the dieoffs of these microbes. Some microbes are HIV, but most are other things growing like wildfire in them. A little bit of electricity can produce a massive dieoff in someone very sick. Glad to hear symptoms gone. AIDS symptoms seem to go away with blood electrification. They usually need to do it constantly though afterwards unless additional steps are taken. There's lots of messages and files notes on HIV and where to apply electricity to target it right. Good luck bG > > Thanks, V. I put a set of electrodes in my mouth awhile back for > sinus and when I reversed the current, I could see a white flash each > time I switched. Crazy. :-) I haven't done it again...and I don't > seem to be as plugged up as before. I'm not sure, but I would like > to attribute it to the Godzilla. > removed] > > > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Right, Dick. If it's switching every 30, then it's 1/60 hertz. bg > Hank, > > Didn't you mean 1/30 Hz? That should switch polarity every 15 seconds, > making a completed cycle every 30 seconds. > > Dick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Hi, I just checked it again and I was wrong, It is switching every 60 seconds. I don't know what that means, does it mean it is 1/120? It is the Godzilla SOLTEC HM-102S, The picture is here http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/kit.htm Yours Hank Re: Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular Degeneration Right, Dick. If it's switching every 30, then it's 1/60 hertz. bg > Hank, > > Didn't you mean 1/30 Hz? That should switch polarity every 15 seconds, > making a completed cycle every 30 seconds. > > Dick > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 it's then 1/120 hertz. two switchings equals one hertz or cycle, and it completes a full cycle of these two switchings in two minutes. 120 seconds per cycle or: 1/120 hertz. bG > Hi, I just checked it again and I was wrong, It is switching every 60 seconds. I don't know what that means, does it mean it is 1/120? It is the Godzilla SOLTEC HM-102S, The picture is here http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/kit.htm > Yours Hank > Re: Microcurrent Stimulation for Macular Degeneration > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2004 Report Share Posted September 19, 2004 I'd like to correct a misconception that has crept into the discussions. The term Hertz, abbreviated Hz, replaces the terminology cycles per second. For a square wave, the cycle consists of two parts the time which signal is " high " and the time that the signal is " low " . " High " might mean positive polarity of the battery and " Low " would be the reverse battery polarity, or no current, or a voltage significantly less than the voltage defined as " High " . It just depends on the system. and Beck machines have many cycles per second and therefor their frequencies are commonly 32KHz (32000Hz), 2.3KHz (2300Hz), perhaps 4Hz, and hundreds of others, refer to the tables published, elsewhere. However, in many recent posts, the period was measured in seconds. To take an example of 15 seconds " High " and another 15 seconds " Low " for a total period of 30 seconds. To determine the frequency in Hertz, 1 / (15+15) = 0.033333333 Hz. The following table may be helpful. The first column is the number of seconds of a complete period, the second column is in Hz. In general it becomes complicated to describe the Godzilla frequencies in terms of Hertz, so why not just specify the complete period in seconds. For example, just say 30 seconds. 1 1 Hz 1 / 1 Hz 5 0.2 Hz 1 / 5 Hz 15 0.066666667 Hz 1 / 15 Hz 25 0.04 Hz 1 / 25 Hz 30 0.033333333 Hz 1 / 30 Hz 45 0.022222222 Hz 1 / 45 Hz 60 0.016666667 Hz 1 / 60 Hz 120 0.008333333 Hz 1 / 120 Hz Cash At 04:26 PM 9/18/2004, you wrote: >it's then 1/120 hertz. two switchings equals one hertz or cycle, >and it completes a full cycle of these two switchings in two >minutes. 120 seconds per cycle or: 1/120 hertz. > >bG > > > > Hi, I just checked it again and I was wrong, It is switching every >60 seconds. I don't know what that means, does it mean it is 1/120? >It is the Godzilla SOLTEC HM-102S, The picture is here >http://photoman.bizland.com/godzilla/kit.htm > > Yours Hank > > Re: Microcurrent >Stimulation for Macular Degeneration > > > > > > > > >The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla >devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical >advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing, >you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages >from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or >individually. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything >about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, >for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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