Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Hi......where did you get this info on the USAF and garlic?..........I'm a commercial pilot and I've never heard anything about this before......usually the list of things that impairs reaction time is the same as the military's list.....thanks...Robb Re: Godzilla with aspirin? ,,yeah and Beck funded a Stanford study showing garlic destroys brain cells, is a poison, slows down mental capacity and reaction time. The US Air Force used to forbid it within 72 hours of flight duty, per their own tests on reaction time. > Aspirin is very bad for you internally. I forget which organ it damages, but> taking aspirin every day is not as healthy as they want you to believe. It> is better to take Vitamin C, or garlic (the best method--not capsules but> raw cloves), or gingko biloba. These things have many side benefits while> also thinning your blood. Coumadin is rat poison!! Not to scare you, but I> certainly wouldn't be taking it while there are many other, much safer,> methods of thinning the blood. I can look up more information here that I> have if you need it. > > samala> > "tossed down to live among angels, who have forgotten what they are, I> strive to remember" RLV 1998> > -------Original Message-------> OOOps!! I forgot to take that into account; I'm on coumadin. I've had several strokes due to a congenital clotting disorder but am still determined to go through with this as planned. Any suggestions? I suppose the real test will be to take note of any bruising.The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and other things useful in research. These are free to members. Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Hi......where did you get this info on the USAF and garlic?..........I'm a commercial pilot and I've never heard anything about this before......usually the list of things that impairs reaction time is the same as the military's list.....thanks...Robb Re: Godzilla with aspirin? ,,yeah and Beck funded a Stanford study showing garlic destroys brain cells, is a poison, slows down mental capacity and reaction time. The US Air Force used to forbid it within 72 hours of flight duty, per their own tests on reaction time. > Aspirin is very bad for you internally. I forget which organ it damages, but> taking aspirin every day is not as healthy as they want you to believe. It> is better to take Vitamin C, or garlic (the best method--not capsules but> raw cloves), or gingko biloba. These things have many side benefits while> also thinning your blood. Coumadin is rat poison!! Not to scare you, but I> certainly wouldn't be taking it while there are many other, much safer,> methods of thinning the blood. I can look up more information here that I> have if you need it. > > samala> > "tossed down to live among angels, who have forgotten what they are, I> strive to remember" RLV 1998> > -------Original Message-------> OOOps!! I forgot to take that into account; I'm on coumadin. I've had several strokes due to a congenital clotting disorder but am still determined to go through with this as planned. Any suggestions? I suppose the real test will be to take note of any bruising.The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and other things useful in research. These are free to members. Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Hi......where did you get this info on the USAF and garlic?..........I'm a commercial pilot and I've never heard anything about this before......usually the list of things that impairs reaction time is the same as the military's list.....thanks...Robb --- bobluhrs@... wrote: > ,,yeah and Beck funded a Stanford study showing > garlic destroys > brain cells, is a poison, slows down mental capacity > and reaction > time. The US Air Force used to forbid it within 72 > hours of flight > duty, per their own tests on reaction time. > > > > Aspirin is very bad for you internally. I forget > which organ it > damages, but > > taking aspirin every day is not as healthy as they > want you to > believe. It > > is better to take Vitamin C, or garlic (the best > method--not > capsules but > > raw cloves), or gingko biloba. These things have > many side > benefits while > > also thinning your blood. Coumadin is rat poison!! > Not to scare > you, but I > > certainly wouldn't be taking it while there are > many other, much > safer, > > methods of thinning the blood. I can look up more > information here > that I > > have if you need it. > > > > samala > > > > " tossed down to live among angels, who have > forgotten what they > are, I > > strive to remember " RLV 1998 > > > > -------Original Message------- > > OOOps!! I forgot to take that into account; I'm on > coumadin. I've > had several strokes due to a congenital clotting > disorder but am > still determined to go through with this as planned. > Any > suggestions? I suppose the real test will be to take > note of any > bruising. > > ===== The High Power Magnetic Pulser http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/magneticpulser/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Yeah, it sounds funny to me, too, because during WW1 when they ran out of sulfur for the wounds they'd use crushed garlic. Maybe Beck just didn't like the flavor of garlic or the smell of it on anyone's breath and so tried to discredit it?? lol samala " tossed down to live among angels, who have forgotten what they are, I strive to remember " RLV 1998 -------Original Message------- Hi......where did you get this info on the USAF and garlic?..........I'm a commercial pilot and I've never heard anything about this before......usually the list of things that impairs reaction time is the same as the military's list.....thanks...Robb --- bobluhrs@... wrote: > ,,yeah and Beck funded a Stanford study showing > garlic destroys > brain cells, is a poison, slows down mental capacity > and reaction > time. The US Air Force used to forbid it within 72 > hours of flight > duty, per their own tests on reaction time. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 <<<Beck's a starting point. I have no idea if the Mafia ever killed anyone with garlic, or just thought they did. They were not known for brilliance. <<< lol Exactly. <<<Beck impressed me as impatient and sloppy, but bold and optimistic. You can't have it all. Doing the pathology study (20 minutes) on Hep-c would've shown him how to defeat it. He didn't bother, and people with that disease just did not get well enough to nail it. I don't know if we will, either, but we pulled enough strings to know blood electrification, and CS and the rest of it didn't work on many cases, all of them we tried. It can mitigate it somewhat, maybe. I've not been willing to do " Orthodox-Beck " , as I sensed a certain lack of follow-through in it, but I'm very happy to take a " thanks-to-Beck " approach. I feel that, without him, nobody would even know about this. would've lost it due to general ignorance of the nature of physics. Beck knew his physics, if not medicine or medical research methods. In some ways, he gave his own life for us on this, and I sincerely, whole-heartedly thank him for it.<<< There have been many who we owe much to, Beck being one. I just don't think there is any ONE cure-all for any given disease. In everything I have studied about health (I'm not a doctor, nor scientist) for the past 15 years just about everything can be related back to diet, though, IN MY OPINION. How our bodies use what we intake, how the organs function or malfunction, how we handle any attack be it physical, emotional or spiritual, all has a great bearing on our health. I have come to the belief that if we give the body what it needs, it will heal itself. Everything that we do is either supportive of that, or against that. It's in our best interest to give the body exactly what it needs and let it do its job. Problem is--finding out what the body needs! I think starting with the physical energy need--food, is the best. Now, everyone knows eating good healthy organic food is the best, but what system to follow? Lots of protein? Zero carbs? All vegetarian? Again, each body is different and has different needs. I think metabolic typing is proving to be about the best method out there, because it takes all these different needs by different body types into consideration, without trying to lump everyone into one category. IE, not everyone needs meat, but not everyone does best on a vegetarian diet, either So--metabolic typing helps you to discover what your body actually requires in the line of food. Then, because our systems are so screwed up, and under such toxic attack from everyplace and everything in our environment, the best thing to do is do a full internal cleanse. Starting with a colon cleanse, because unless that is clean the toxins removed from any other organ just get reabsorbed by the body instead of being eliminated. Then a good, but SAFE liver/gall bladder flush followed by a good but SAFE kidney/bladder flush. All the while doing a liquid diet to relieve the body from spending energy on digestion (the biggest expenditure our body has) and a skin cleanse, which means either toxin flushing baths or hot/cold showers with dry brushing in between. This whole process should take about a month. After this period of time your body will have a head start on whatever healing method you decide to try, be it herbs, CS, minerals, electricity, reiki, whatever. And I see nothing wrong with mixing these modalities. So long as you feel comfortable with what you are doing I don't believe you will hurt yourself. Once you learn to listen to your body, you will know when you do something wrong. Then after the full body flush, starting with eating by your metabolic type, along with taking digestive enzymes until your body balances itself out with the correct flora and fauna to take care of proper digestion and assimilation without external help. And, never forget gentle exercise. It seems that using a mini-trampoline is about the easiest, safest way to get a full body workout, stimulating every cell in the body, along with all lymph glands. The one type of person that shouldn t do the trampoline is someone with lymph cancer. I heard this in a lecture by a woman endocrinologist specialist--she said she was one of only 3 in America (at that time--about 15 years ago). She said she put every one of her patients on this mini jumper because of the remarkable health benefits--except for lymph cancer patients, because it stimulates the glands so much! Then, while the physical needs are now being met, start in on the mental, emotional and spiritual needs. Sometimes, if you believe enough in something, this is all that is necessary! But that seems to be very few of us. sigh Well, I didn't mean to sound off like this, but once I got to writing I couldn't stop. Again, this is all my opinion. But as one who has been through breast cancer and was told she would die in just 2 or 3 years tops, and who is alive 15 years later, I guess my opinion is good enough for me! :-) samala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 I can't believe that in only very few words you encapsulated everything I feel about health! Kudos to you! I think you have it in a nutshell!! Re: Re: Godzilla with aspirin? <<<Beck's a starting point. I have no idea if the Mafia ever killedanyone with garlic, or just thought they did. They were not knownfor brilliance. <<< lol Exactly.<<<Beck impressed me as impatient and sloppy, but boldand optimistic. You can't have it all. Doing the pathology study(20 minutes) on Hep-c would've shown him how to defeat it. Hedidn't bother, and people with that disease just did not get wellenough to nail it. I don't know if we will, either, but we pulledenough strings to know blood electrification, and CS and the rest ofit didn't work on many cases, all of them we tried. It can mitigateit somewhat, maybe. I've not been willing to do "Orthodox-Beck", asI sensed a certain lack of follow-through in it, but I'm very happyto take a "thanks-to-Beck" approach. I feel that, without him,nobody would even know about this. would've lost it due togeneral ignorance of the nature of physics. Beck knew his physics,if not medicine or medical research methods. In some ways, he gavehis own life for us on this, and I sincerely, whole-heartedly thankhim for it.<<< There have been many who we owe much to, Beck being one. I just don'tthink there is any ONE cure-all for any given disease. In everything I havestudied about health (I'm not a doctor, nor scientist) for the past 15 yearsjust about everything can be related back to diet, though, IN MY OPINION. How our bodies use what we intake, how the organs function or malfunction,how we handle any attack be it physical, emotional or spiritual, all has agreat bearing on our health. I have come to the belief that if we give thebody what it needs, it will heal itself. Everything that we do is eithersupportive of that, or against that. It's in our best interest to give thebody exactly what it needs and let it do its job. Problem is--finding outwhat the body needs! I think starting with the physical energy need--food,is the best. Now, everyone knows eating good healthy organic food is thebest, but what system to follow? Lots of protein? Zero carbs? Allvegetarian? Again, each body is different and has different needs. I thinkmetabolic typing is proving to be about the best method out there, becauseit takes all these different needs by different body types intoconsideration, without trying to lump everyone into one category. IE, noteveryone needs meat, but not everyone does best on a vegetarian diet, either So--metabolic typing helps you to discover what your body actuallyrequires in the line of food. Then, because our systems are so screwed up,and under such toxic attack from everyplace and everything in ourenvironment, the best thing to do is do a full internal cleanse. Startingwith a colon cleanse, because unless that is clean the toxins removed fromany other organ just get reabsorbed by the body instead of being eliminated.Then a good, but SAFE liver/gall bladder flush followed by a good but SAFEkidney/bladder flush. All the while doing a liquid diet to relieve the bodyfrom spending energy on digestion (the biggest expenditure our body has) anda skin cleanse, which means either toxin flushing baths or hot/cold showerswith dry brushing in between. This whole process should take about a month.After this period of time your body will have a head start on whateverhealing method you decide to try, be it herbs, CS, minerals, electricity,reiki, whatever. And I see nothing wrong with mixing these modalities. Solong as you feel comfortable with what you are doing I don't believe youwill hurt yourself. Once you learn to listen to your body, you will knowwhen you do something wrong. Then after the full body flush, starting witheating by your metabolic type, along with taking digestive enzymes untilyour body balances itself out with the correct flora and fauna to take careof proper digestion and assimilation without external help. And, neverforget gentle exercise. It seems that using a mini-trampoline is about theeasiest, safest way to get a full body workout, stimulating every cell inthe body, along with all lymph glands. The one type of person that shouldnt do the trampoline is someone with lymph cancer. I heard this in a lectureby a woman endocrinologist specialist--she said she was one of only 3 inAmerica (at that time--about 15 years ago). She said she put every one ofher patients on this mini jumper because of the remarkable healthbenefits--except for lymph cancer patients, because it stimulates the glandsso much!Then, while the physical needs are now being met, start in on the mental,emotional and spiritual needs. Sometimes, if you believe enough insomething, this is all that is necessary! But that seems to be very few ofus. sighWell, I didn't mean to sound off like this, but once I got to writing Icouldn't stop. Again, this is all my opinion. But as one who has beenthrough breast cancer and was told she would die in just 2 or 3 years tops,and who is alive 15 years later, I guess my opinion is good enough for me!:-)samala The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and other things useful in research. These are free to members. Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 I can't believe that in only very few words you encapsulated everything I feel about health! Kudos to you! I think you have it in a nutshell!! Re: Re: Godzilla with aspirin? <<<Beck's a starting point. I have no idea if the Mafia ever killedanyone with garlic, or just thought they did. They were not knownfor brilliance. <<< lol Exactly.<<<Beck impressed me as impatient and sloppy, but boldand optimistic. You can't have it all. Doing the pathology study(20 minutes) on Hep-c would've shown him how to defeat it. Hedidn't bother, and people with that disease just did not get wellenough to nail it. I don't know if we will, either, but we pulledenough strings to know blood electrification, and CS and the rest ofit didn't work on many cases, all of them we tried. It can mitigateit somewhat, maybe. I've not been willing to do "Orthodox-Beck", asI sensed a certain lack of follow-through in it, but I'm very happyto take a "thanks-to-Beck" approach. I feel that, without him,nobody would even know about this. would've lost it due togeneral ignorance of the nature of physics. Beck knew his physics,if not medicine or medical research methods. In some ways, he gavehis own life for us on this, and I sincerely, whole-heartedly thankhim for it.<<< There have been many who we owe much to, Beck being one. I just don'tthink there is any ONE cure-all for any given disease. In everything I havestudied about health (I'm not a doctor, nor scientist) for the past 15 yearsjust about everything can be related back to diet, though, IN MY OPINION. How our bodies use what we intake, how the organs function or malfunction,how we handle any attack be it physical, emotional or spiritual, all has agreat bearing on our health. I have come to the belief that if we give thebody what it needs, it will heal itself. Everything that we do is eithersupportive of that, or against that. It's in our best interest to give thebody exactly what it needs and let it do its job. Problem is--finding outwhat the body needs! I think starting with the physical energy need--food,is the best. Now, everyone knows eating good healthy organic food is thebest, but what system to follow? Lots of protein? Zero carbs? Allvegetarian? Again, each body is different and has different needs. I thinkmetabolic typing is proving to be about the best method out there, becauseit takes all these different needs by different body types intoconsideration, without trying to lump everyone into one category. IE, noteveryone needs meat, but not everyone does best on a vegetarian diet, either So--metabolic typing helps you to discover what your body actuallyrequires in the line of food. Then, because our systems are so screwed up,and under such toxic attack from everyplace and everything in ourenvironment, the best thing to do is do a full internal cleanse. Startingwith a colon cleanse, because unless that is clean the toxins removed fromany other organ just get reabsorbed by the body instead of being eliminated.Then a good, but SAFE liver/gall bladder flush followed by a good but SAFEkidney/bladder flush. All the while doing a liquid diet to relieve the bodyfrom spending energy on digestion (the biggest expenditure our body has) anda skin cleanse, which means either toxin flushing baths or hot/cold showerswith dry brushing in between. This whole process should take about a month.After this period of time your body will have a head start on whateverhealing method you decide to try, be it herbs, CS, minerals, electricity,reiki, whatever. And I see nothing wrong with mixing these modalities. Solong as you feel comfortable with what you are doing I don't believe youwill hurt yourself. Once you learn to listen to your body, you will knowwhen you do something wrong. Then after the full body flush, starting witheating by your metabolic type, along with taking digestive enzymes untilyour body balances itself out with the correct flora and fauna to take careof proper digestion and assimilation without external help. And, neverforget gentle exercise. It seems that using a mini-trampoline is about theeasiest, safest way to get a full body workout, stimulating every cell inthe body, along with all lymph glands. The one type of person that shouldnt do the trampoline is someone with lymph cancer. I heard this in a lectureby a woman endocrinologist specialist--she said she was one of only 3 inAmerica (at that time--about 15 years ago). She said she put every one ofher patients on this mini jumper because of the remarkable healthbenefits--except for lymph cancer patients, because it stimulates the glandsso much!Then, while the physical needs are now being met, start in on the mental,emotional and spiritual needs. Sometimes, if you believe enough insomething, this is all that is necessary! But that seems to be very few ofus. sighWell, I didn't mean to sound off like this, but once I got to writing Icouldn't stop. Again, this is all my opinion. But as one who has beenthrough breast cancer and was told she would die in just 2 or 3 years tops,and who is alive 15 years later, I guess my opinion is good enough for me!:-)samala The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and other things useful in research. These are free to members. Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Well you know, here's the thing. Anyone can be allergic to anything. Perhaps these people were allergic to garlic--or sulfur. Many people are allergic to sulfur. Yet, MSM (a form of sulfur) is helping thousands of people with arthritis. And, I have studied herbs for the past few years, and KNOW how life-saving garlic is against many viruses, infections, etc. So, sorry, but I will stay with garlic. I know it doesn't have any detrimental effect on me. I suppose it can bother some people and if you are one that happens to be allergic to it, then by all means--quit eating garlic!! Pretty simple cure, huh? samala " tossed down to live among angels, who have forgotten what they are, I strive to remember " RLV 1998 -------Original Message------- The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison for higher-life forms and brain cells. We discovered this, much to our horror, when I (Bob Beck, DSc) was the world's largest manufacturer of ethical EEG feedback equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Well you know, here's the thing. Anyone can be allergic to anything. Perhaps these people were allergic to garlic--or sulfur. Many people are allergic to sulfur. Yet, MSM (a form of sulfur) is helping thousands of people with arthritis. And, I have studied herbs for the past few years, and KNOW how life-saving garlic is against many viruses, infections, etc. So, sorry, but I will stay with garlic. I know it doesn't have any detrimental effect on me. I suppose it can bother some people and if you are one that happens to be allergic to it, then by all means--quit eating garlic!! Pretty simple cure, huh? samala " tossed down to live among angels, who have forgotten what they are, I strive to remember " RLV 1998 -------Original Message------- The reason garlic is so toxic, the sulphone hydroxyl ion penetrates the blood-brain barrier, just like DMSO, and is a specific poison for higher-life forms and brain cells. We discovered this, much to our horror, when I (Bob Beck, DSc) was the world's largest manufacturer of ethical EEG feedback equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Share Posted July 24, 2004 I always enjoy life. Especially watching the crossed eyes and gagging responses of the people I breath my garlic breath on! :-)) samala " tossed down to live among angels, who have forgotten what they are, I strive to remember " RLV 1998 -------Original Message------- I guess you're very lucky it has no effect on your brain cells since in the lab, it appears from Beck's words about his Stanford study, that it kills brain cells and higher life forms. We can only speculate at this point why you somehow are not affected by it. just kidding around, you probably have a good thing there, so stick with it, of course, and enjoy life to the fullest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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