Re: Favorites anyone?

July 29, 2004

A question for bG, on the 9 V. . Does it matter which lead.wire, + or -

we put the 15 K resistor on. Thanks in advance

July 29, 2004

putting myself in the shoes of someone starting out..and possibly

dying out, and having nothing, no resources except a library

computer and a desire to do this..my path would look like this..and

this is from the simplicity vision, as well as the effectiveness

vision:

1. Build Lite Godzilla. It's just two electrodes, a 15k ohm

resistance (or 20k ohms, or one 5k and one 10k in series).

2. That just cost me $4. After using it on wrists, mouth, possibly

other problem areas, I'd be feeling better. I could then cut off

the wire, saving the resistor and electrodes, add a 500k

potentiometer, and 4 batteries, a small cheap switch, plunk it all

into a box, and have...Godzilla. with a minimum of fuss, and all

costing no more than an additional 20 bucks for the batteries and

small parts, and another 15 for the meter. about $40 total.

3. After using this heftier unit for a long time, I might, if I

wished to, build an auto-unit, re-using all my godzilla device, just

buying some more parts to make it switch by itself. But, it's

optional. The additional cost for that: about $20, tops.

$60 gets you a complete series of units, and the experience on a

small, step-by-step level to master the whole field of godzilla-

medicine.

We of the battery know how valuable this learning curve is. It's

complete freedom, and you can free others. The electronics are

simple..so simple.

I'm planning the release of a new godzilla device using a lantern

battery and a wire. It will serve as the first device for everyone,

no matter what they know or don't know.

No switches, no clips, no waiting, no ordering parts. Later, one

can build the Lite godzilla. Lite godzilla's are pocketable, and

transportable anywhere. You can build them when you get there,

too. Don't depend on others just to save time. Knowledge like this

is rare, and it's free. You can't go wrong. Once you have it, you

really have something!

bG

> For those of you who have been trying these machines for awhile

(already built and used a godzilla and a Beck-related model, maybe a

zapper, etc.)... If you were to begin your research again, which

schematic would you choose to build and try out first? Favorites so

far anyone?

>

> gracibeth

>

July 29, 2004

Gosh, bG, thanks!!! This makes it easy for me to " just do it " as they say. I

know practically nothing about building anything electric and all the

numbers, and warnings and such on this list have been so intriguing, but

also has made me leery--thinking that !) I didn't know enough, 2) could harm

myself or others and 3) and totally unsure of where to start!! So, I can see

what I'll be doing this weekend. Thanks for giving us confidence. I truly

believe in self-care, and have the nutrition and herbal part all figured out

(yeah, right--lol) but just had no idea where to start with electricity.

There's so many devices mentioned on this list. This at least will give me a

starting place.

samala

" tossed down to live among angels, who have forgotten what they are, I

strive to remember " RLV 1998

-------Original Message-------

putting myself in the shoes of someone starting out..and possibly

dying out, and having nothing, no resources except a library

computer and a desire to do this..my path would look like this..and

this is from the simplicity vision, as well as the effectiveness

vision:

July 30, 2004

In a message dated 7/30/2004 3:47:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

bobluhrs@... writes:

> The resistor thing is " close enough " but you should know that

> putting two 10k resistors in " parallel " if that is truly what you

> mean, gives you not 20k but 5k. Putting them one behind the other

> is called " series " . That will definitely give you your 20k safety

> limiter.

>

Bob,

My mistake in typing. I wired the resistors in series - not parallel as

stated in my note - for a 20k ohm final resistance, not 5K. I also used the

100K

pot as I couldn't find a 500K at the time. The 20K allows a lower (less

current) limit as opposed to the others (eg 5K or 15K). This lets me take the

current done as low as .15 mA on my machine and restricts my top end around 10

mA.

If you want to repost my note, please correct my mistake.

Also, the meter is often the largest cost item of Godzilla, but I have found

decent ones at Harbor Freight locally, often for less than $4 on sale. So my

meter cost me less than the 4 batteries.

Thanks for your work in putting all this information in one place on the net.

Regards,

Bill

July 30, 2004

In a message dated 7/30/2004 3:47:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

bobluhrs@... writes:

> The resistor thing is " close enough " but you should know that

> putting two 10k resistors in " parallel " if that is truly what you

> mean, gives you not 20k but 5k. Putting them one behind the other

> is called " series " . That will definitely give you your 20k safety

> limiter.

>

Bob,

My mistake in typing. I wired the resistors in series - not parallel as

stated in my note - for a 20k ohm final resistance, not 5K. I also used the

100K

pot as I couldn't find a 500K at the time. The 20K allows a lower (less

current) limit as opposed to the others (eg 5K or 15K). This lets me take the

current done as low as .15 mA on my machine and restricts my top end around 10

mA.

If you want to repost my note, please correct my mistake.

Also, the meter is often the largest cost item of Godzilla, but I have found

decent ones at Harbor Freight locally, often for less than $4 on sale. So my

meter cost me less than the 4 batteries.

Thanks for your work in putting all this information in one place on the net.

Regards,

Bill

July 30, 2004

zapper, etc.)... If you were to begin your research again, which

schematic would you choose to build and try out first?

i use ordinary tap water in two separate buckets. i run one

of the two wires from the battery to each bucket. i either

place one foot in each bucket or both feet in one and both

hands in the other. when i've used the meter in the circuit,

it has registered as high as 1.5 microamps on occasion, but

usually is only 1 microamp. if i place just the heals of

my feet in the water it is only 400 microamps. the use of

tap water seems to negate the need for current limiting

resister that is used with the higher current carrying water

with electrolytes added. you could carve up two plastic

jugs for milk or something as alternative to buying the

rectangle buckets i use. i have tried this on five other

people of various ages (12-82) and the meter seems always to

show 400 micros heals, or 1k full feet.

there is often no feeling or just slight tingles. if the tingle

get stronger to bother me, i switch to heals vs full feet.

just pick up the wires and switch which buchet they are in

to reverse polarity.

myself i rarely use it for more than 3 to five minutes at a

time so never worry about polarity. i use it daily in winter

as a preventive and once per week the rest of the year. if i

were getting sick, i'd up the frequency of use or duration.

its so much easier to just step into the water for a bit vs

having to strap on electrodes and all. my mouth idea that i

have not yet tried is to put feet in one bucket and suck water

through a straw into mouth to hold there, keeping a current

path down through straw into glass of water with other wire.

blessings to all on this list, gyro.

July 30, 2004

> For those of you who have been trying these machines for awhile

(already built and used a godzilla and a Beck-related model, maybe a

zapper, etc.)... If you were to begin your research again, which

schematic would you choose to build and try out first? Favorites so

far anyone?

>

> gracibeth

I just finished building my Godzilla this last Monday evening. I

found the pictures and schematics on this site extremely useful and

easy to follow. Some of the parts were a bit difficult to find,

mostly the 15K ohm resistor and case. I eventually just wired two

10k ohm resistors in parallel for 20K. I preferred the original

Godzilla as opposed to the mini or lite versions as the

potentiometer and ammeter allowed me to pinpoint and control the

amount of current I was delivering to my body as opposed to just

guessing. This became more important to me when I tried it out and

found that even a low current of .3 mA caused irritation on my

wrists and ankles. So I just dial it down to my level of comfort.

Without the meter I believe it's difficult to get a true reading of

what you're doing as it's easy to get a broken or loose connection,

especially where the wires attach to the stainless steel electrodes.

As luck would have it, I got to test my Godzilla out today on a

different area. I was trimming the hedges and discovered the hard

way that it had now become home to a colony of Yellowjackets. I got

a nasty sting on my right forearm which turned red, swelled up, and

stung like the dickens. I pulled out my Godzilla and applied the

tips of the wet electrodes to either side of the injury. My

forearms must be less sensitive than my wrists or ankles as I was

able to apply .4 to .5 mA with no irritation. I held the electrodes

by the nonconductive ends (shrinkwrap tubing) for 15 minutes,

switching polarity every five minutes. The stinging went away

almost immediately.

It's now been three hours since the bee sting and the swelling has

gone and the pain has not returned. If you look real close, you can

see a small red discoloration on my skin. There is no discomfort

unless you rub the spot with moderate to heavy pressure.

I'm sold.

I'm quite happy with my new tool and will be trying it on other

ailments as they come up and let everyone know my results.

Regards,

Bill

July 30, 2004