Re: Note from an experienced person on pads

May 3, 2004

Økay, I made the new large pads....

I bought a vinyl table place mat from the dollar store, cut a 5 " x6 "

piece, then folded 6 sheets of aluminum foil to fit approx. 4 1/2 " x 5

1/2 " onto the vinyl piece; sandwhiched the electrode into the foil and

taped onto foil; then taped the foil to vinyl pad; covered with 2 layers

of " washcloth " and then sewed one layer of linen over all, to the vinyl

perimeter.

Curiously, I'm able to turn the meter up to .20 and feel nothing,

compared to the usual burning sensation I get from a small electrode at

..10

May 4, 2004

good that means no hot spots. well-crafted pads should have few or

none of them.

it spreads the charge out so it will not have much feeling to it.

You can turn up to where your skin will handle it indefinitely, yet

use lots of current this way. You may find it very useful now that

you have reasonable electrodes.

This can't be used on bloodstream, where there's too little surface

area.

Think of a magnifying glass where the pinpoint of sun is very hot,

but that striking the glass is much cooler. The small area

concentrates the charge, that's all it's doing.

bG

> Økay, I made the new large pads....

> I bought a vinyl table place mat from the dollar store, cut a

5 " x6 "

> piece, then folded 6 sheets of aluminum foil to fit approx. 4 1/2 "

x 5

> 1/2 " onto the vinyl piece; sandwhiched the electrode into the

foil and

> taped onto foil; then taped the foil to vinyl pad; covered with 2

layers

> of " washcloth " and then sewed one layer of linen over all, to the

vinyl

> perimeter.

> Curiously, I'm able to turn the meter up to .20 and feel nothing,

> compared to the usual burning sensation I get from a small

electrode at

> .10

May 7, 2004

Hi bG,

I recently switched from using 'standard' electrodes on my wrists to

using V's TENS pads (rotating the electrodes from one wrist one day

to the other wrist the next day was causing burns that wouldn't heal

in a day -- and this with Godzilla on a low setting). Using the TENS

pads allows me to rotate the pads to different areas of my

wrist/forearm giving me much more " territory " to work with. I've been

very pleased with the condition of my wrist/foreams lately and don't

shy away from BE'ing sessions. (I always use Lily of the Desert 99%

Aloe Vera Gelly on the skin after each session and it seems to help.)

I don't understand the dynamics of how electricity travels but in my

limited understanding, it would seem that with the pads, the current

is moving from one side of the wrist/forearm to the other and

cleansing the flow of blood in the process. So whether using

electrodes or pads, blood is flowing through the current and being

cleansed.

Is this analogy flawed? Any enlightenment would be greatly

appreciated. Thanks!

> > Økay, I made the new large pads....

> > I bought a vinyl table place mat from the dollar store, cut a

> 5 " x6 "

> > piece, then folded 6 sheets of aluminum foil to fit approx. 4

1/2 "

> x 5

> > 1/2 " onto the vinyl piece; sandwhiched the electrode into the

> foil and

> > taped onto foil; then taped the foil to vinyl pad; covered with 2

> layers

> > of " washcloth " and then sewed one layer of linen over all, to the

> vinyl

> > perimeter.

> > Curiously, I'm able to turn the meter up to .20 and feel nothing,

> > compared to the usual burning sensation I get from a small

> electrode at

> > .10

May 8, 2004

Hi,

Well, sounds like you found how you can get around the irritation

issue. It's not a great way you're using it, but it's better than a

poke in the eye, I guess. I'm wondering why godzilla would act this

way, but point out that if you used a 100k pot vs the newer design's

500k pot, you might try the new. If it's made by another, just cut

and insert a 100k-200k resistor in either lead wire. That will tame

it quite a bit, and you can use whatever electrodes you want.

No, current should follow the artery to the elbow, and return down

again to the other side. It should not go across. The flesh is

less conductive than the bloodstream.

The best way to use wrist electrodes is either with the thin ones on

one wrist, or if heart is ok, no pacemakers, etc, and you want to

use TENS pads, use one on each wrist above a pulse point.

What are you using this for? Is it really necessary or just

precautionary, or what? We always like to hear about effects of

lack of them in conditions people are addressing.

bG

> > > Økay, I made the new large pads....

> > > I bought a vinyl table place mat from the dollar store, cut a

> > 5 " x6 "

> > > piece, then folded 6 sheets of aluminum foil to fit approx. 4

> 1/2 "

> > x 5

> > > 1/2 " onto the vinyl piece; sandwhiched the electrode into the

> > foil and

> > > taped onto foil; then taped the foil to vinyl pad; covered

with 2

> > layers

> > > of " washcloth " and then sewed one layer of linen over all, to

the

> > vinyl

> > > perimeter.

> > > Curiously, I'm able to turn the meter up to .20 and feel

nothing,

> > > compared to the usual burning sensation I get from a small

> > electrode at

> > > .10

May 8, 2004

Scuze me for butting in, but my wrists and ankles are very sensitive to

current, due to damage suffered from trying to see how much current I could

stand, and I cannot use the electrodes over the arteries. I use the TENS

pads on the back of both hands where there are many veins close to the

surface. The venous blood is on the way back to the heart and redestribution

to other parts of the body. It may not be as effective as from artery to

artery (?), but for now that's all I can do without getting the " itch " on my

wrists or ankles.

Using TENS pads over the arteries is diffusing the current and not applying

it immediately above the arteries. Spreading the current out over 2x2 inches

greatly reduces the current that gets into the arterial blood stream. It is

just my opinion, but it seems to me that more current will get into the

blood stream using TENS pads over the veins on the back of my hands.

And I always, " always " use a meter to monitor the amperage.

Dick

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