Re: Re: Mag pulsers do kill microbes

[Guest guest]

If that's the case would it be more effective if we could produce a stronger spark? If so, how would we do that? The spark produced by my spark plug looks weak compared to the spark made in a car or lawn mower, and it is not consistant. I see a spark maybe about every 3 to 7 pulses, not everytime. I cannot determine what makes it spark; whether I hold the button down longer or wait longer between pulses, or what.

Dick

Re: Re: Mag pulsers do kill microbes

Folks,I think magpulser works on RFs.bobluhrs@... wrote:

good points. I'm not sure abt the sinuses and sore throat, but the toes does make sense as the infection was at surface and had little iron in it. The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and other things useful in research. These are free to members. Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

[Guest guest]

If that's the case would it be more effective if we could produce a stronger spark? If so, how would we do that? The spark produced by my spark plug looks weak compared to the spark made in a car or lawn mower, and it is not consistant. I see a spark maybe about every 3 to 7 pulses, not everytime. I cannot determine what makes it spark; whether I hold the button down longer or wait longer between pulses, or what.

Dick

Re: Re: Mag pulsers do kill microbes

Folks,I think magpulser works on RFs.bobluhrs@... wrote:

good points. I'm not sure abt the sinuses and sore throat, but the toes does make sense as the infection was at surface and had little iron in it. The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla devices and other things useful in research. These are free to members. Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice. The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

[Guest guest]

Thanks, V. Good advise. Are you using the smaller coil or the larger one

when using it flat against his back? If the larger coil, what part of the

coil would you place next to the sore spot? Or if it was the wrist?

Dick

Re: Mag pulsers do kill

microbes

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The experiment rules, so you have something there. My experience is

> > > > with the smaller pulsers on concentrated areas and without Lyme's to

> > > > test. Lyme's bacteria does appear to be sensitive to big pulsers

> > > > for some reason. I think it's great that it gives relief. It

> > > > should be explored and used wherever it's working, since no side

> > > > effects are yet recorded.

> > > >

> > > > It's possible that heat is doing this, as the big coil generates a

> > > > lot of it, and induction may be sympathetically producing more

> > > > inside the body. But if that is the case, then there's current in

> > > > the body or there would not be heat. Not sure if body temperature

> > > > rises during a session, anyone?

> > > >

> > > > If anyone has both devices, the godzilla meter may jump during a

> > > > pulse, showing current rise, if any. It should be there. Knowing

> > > > that would tell us more.

> > > >

> > > > IF it also works on virus, it should be tested on microbes in the

> > > > gut for HIV, the Liver for hep-c. It might help with these viruses

> > > > but we have to allow that it might not. Lyme's is also heat-

> > > > sensitive I'm told a hot bath causes herx's with it, true?

> > > >

> > > > Small induction cooktops use high frequency high voltage coils to

> > > > heat up iron in pots, making a fast cook, even fast than microwaves

> > > > in some cases. Placing one near the body might be interesting to

> > > > see if they have some effect. They don't generate heat on their

> > > > surfaces, but their underlying coils get hot and have fans to cool

> > > > them. They are about 120 bucks. Look up " Sunpentown Induction

> > > > Cooktop " on google. I have two of them. They're slick, with

> > > > adjustable power settings, timer, and the works in an attractive

> > > > package. It's a great system for cooking who knows if it would

> > > > power up your microbes to new levels?

> > > >

> > > > If it IS heat, and nothing wrong with that, then this thing might be

> > > > a way to gently heat the area and kill the Lyme's, better than the

> > > > big car battery thing. They do plug in the wall, so watch out, but

> > > > are considered safe in kitchens, etc. NO ideas if this is really

> > > > safe around the body used like this, however, watch out, please.

> > > >

> > > > bG

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > bG, I have no scientific references, but I can tell you that over

> > > > 20 people

> > > > > using the mag pulser on their Lyme have noticed that it does

> > > > indeed kill

> > > > > microbes, maybe better than anything else.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lyme people can easily tell this by herxheimer reactions, and

> > > > other symptoms

> > > > > which are unmistakable.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> > > > devices and other things useful in research. These are free to

> members.

> > > > Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our

> > freedom

> > > of

> > > > speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are

> ordinary

> > > lay

> > > > people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind.

> > The

> > > > information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most

> group

> > > > members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not

request

> > > > medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human

compassion.

> > > There

> > > > are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical

> > > advice.

> > > > The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme

of

> > the

> > > > group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate

> microbes,

> > as

> > > > it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are

> > > > interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

> repeatability,

> > > or

> > > > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

> > understanding,

> > > > good luck researching. --bG

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, V. Good advise. Are you using the smaller coil or the larger one

when using it flat against his back? If the larger coil, what part of the

coil would you place next to the sore spot? Or if it was the wrist?

Dick

Re: Mag pulsers do kill

microbes

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The experiment rules, so you have something there. My experience is

> > > > with the smaller pulsers on concentrated areas and without Lyme's to

> > > > test. Lyme's bacteria does appear to be sensitive to big pulsers

> > > > for some reason. I think it's great that it gives relief. It

> > > > should be explored and used wherever it's working, since no side

> > > > effects are yet recorded.

> > > >

> > > > It's possible that heat is doing this, as the big coil generates a

> > > > lot of it, and induction may be sympathetically producing more

> > > > inside the body. But if that is the case, then there's current in

> > > > the body or there would not be heat. Not sure if body temperature

> > > > rises during a session, anyone?

> > > >

> > > > If anyone has both devices, the godzilla meter may jump during a

> > > > pulse, showing current rise, if any. It should be there. Knowing

> > > > that would tell us more.

> > > >

> > > > IF it also works on virus, it should be tested on microbes in the

> > > > gut for HIV, the Liver for hep-c. It might help with these viruses

> > > > but we have to allow that it might not. Lyme's is also heat-

> > > > sensitive I'm told a hot bath causes herx's with it, true?

> > > >

> > > > Small induction cooktops use high frequency high voltage coils to

> > > > heat up iron in pots, making a fast cook, even fast than microwaves

> > > > in some cases. Placing one near the body might be interesting to

> > > > see if they have some effect. They don't generate heat on their

> > > > surfaces, but their underlying coils get hot and have fans to cool

> > > > them. They are about 120 bucks. Look up " Sunpentown Induction

> > > > Cooktop " on google. I have two of them. They're slick, with

> > > > adjustable power settings, timer, and the works in an attractive

> > > > package. It's a great system for cooking who knows if it would

> > > > power up your microbes to new levels?

> > > >

> > > > If it IS heat, and nothing wrong with that, then this thing might be

> > > > a way to gently heat the area and kill the Lyme's, better than the

> > > > big car battery thing. They do plug in the wall, so watch out, but

> > > > are considered safe in kitchens, etc. NO ideas if this is really

> > > > safe around the body used like this, however, watch out, please.

> > > >

> > > > bG

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > bG, I have no scientific references, but I can tell you that over

> > > > 20 people

> > > > > using the mag pulser on their Lyme have noticed that it does

> > > > indeed kill

> > > > > microbes, maybe better than anything else.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lyme people can easily tell this by herxheimer reactions, and

> > > > other symptoms

> > > > > which are unmistakable.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> > > > devices and other things useful in research. These are free to

> members.

> > > > Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our

> > freedom

> > > of

> > > > speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are

> ordinary

> > > lay

> > > > people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind.

> > The

> > > > information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most

> group

> > > > members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not

request

> > > > medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human

compassion.

> > > There

> > > > are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical

> > > advice.

> > > > The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme

of

> > the

> > > > group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate

> microbes,

> > as

> > > > it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are

> > > > interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

> repeatability,

> > > or

> > > > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

> > understanding,

> > > > good luck researching. --bG

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I used the larger one on the back. just holdnig the coil in the hand will

get teh wrists. Also I have a smalleor coil that I can put around the leg

and another one that is smaller yet for arond the arm.

I did the leg coil on my dads artritis knee one time and his pain was

immediately dimminished.

V

Re: Mag pulsers do kill

microbes

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The experiment rules, so you have something there. My experience is

> > > > with the smaller pulsers on concentrated areas and without Lyme's to

> > > > test. Lyme's bacteria does appear to be sensitive to big pulsers

> > > > for some reason. I think it's great that it gives relief. It

> > > > should be explored and used wherever it's working, since no side

> > > > effects are yet recorded.

> > > >

> > > > It's possible that heat is doing this, as the big coil generates a

> > > > lot of it, and induction may be sympathetically producing more

> > > > inside the body. But if that is the case, then there's current in

> > > > the body or there would not be heat. Not sure if body temperature

> > > > rises during a session, anyone?

> > > >

> > > > If anyone has both devices, the godzilla meter may jump during a

> > > > pulse, showing current rise, if any. It should be there. Knowing

> > > > that would tell us more.

> > > >

> > > > IF it also works on virus, it should be tested on microbes in the

> > > > gut for HIV, the Liver for hep-c. It might help with these viruses

> > > > but we have to allow that it might not. Lyme's is also heat-

> > > > sensitive I'm told a hot bath causes herx's with it, true?

> > > >

> > > > Small induction cooktops use high frequency high voltage coils to

> > > > heat up iron in pots, making a fast cook, even fast than microwaves

> > > > in some cases. Placing one near the body might be interesting to

> > > > see if they have some effect. They don't generate heat on their

> > > > surfaces, but their underlying coils get hot and have fans to cool

> > > > them. They are about 120 bucks. Look up " Sunpentown Induction

> > > > Cooktop " on google. I have two of them. They're slick, with

> > > > adjustable power settings, timer, and the works in an attractive

> > > > package. It's a great system for cooking who knows if it would

> > > > power up your microbes to new levels?

> > > >

> > > > If it IS heat, and nothing wrong with that, then this thing might be

> > > > a way to gently heat the area and kill the Lyme's, better than the

> > > > big car battery thing. They do plug in the wall, so watch out, but

> > > > are considered safe in kitchens, etc. NO ideas if this is really

> > > > safe around the body used like this, however, watch out, please.

> > > >

> > > > bG

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > bG, I have no scientific references, but I can tell you that over

> > > > 20 people

> > > > > using the mag pulser on their Lyme have noticed that it does

> > > > indeed kill

> > > > > microbes, maybe better than anything else.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lyme people can easily tell this by herxheimer reactions, and

> > > > other symptoms

> > > > > which are unmistakable.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> > > > devices and other things useful in research. These are free to

> members.

> > > > Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our

> > freedom

> > > of

> > > > speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are

> ordinary

> > > lay

> > > > people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind.

> > The

> > > > information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most

> group

> > > > members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not

request

> > > > medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human

compassion.

> > > There

> > > > are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical

> > > advice.

> > > > The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme

of

> > the

> > > > group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate

> microbes,

> > as

> > > > it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are

> > > > interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

> repeatability,

> > > or

> > > > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

> > understanding,

> > > > good luck researching. --bG

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I used the larger one on the back. just holdnig the coil in the hand will

get teh wrists. Also I have a smalleor coil that I can put around the leg

and another one that is smaller yet for arond the arm.

I did the leg coil on my dads artritis knee one time and his pain was

immediately dimminished.

V

Re: Mag pulsers do kill

microbes

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The experiment rules, so you have something there. My experience is

> > > > with the smaller pulsers on concentrated areas and without Lyme's to

> > > > test. Lyme's bacteria does appear to be sensitive to big pulsers

> > > > for some reason. I think it's great that it gives relief. It

> > > > should be explored and used wherever it's working, since no side

> > > > effects are yet recorded.

> > > >

> > > > It's possible that heat is doing this, as the big coil generates a

> > > > lot of it, and induction may be sympathetically producing more

> > > > inside the body. But if that is the case, then there's current in

> > > > the body or there would not be heat. Not sure if body temperature

> > > > rises during a session, anyone?

> > > >

> > > > If anyone has both devices, the godzilla meter may jump during a

> > > > pulse, showing current rise, if any. It should be there. Knowing

> > > > that would tell us more.

> > > >

> > > > IF it also works on virus, it should be tested on microbes in the

> > > > gut for HIV, the Liver for hep-c. It might help with these viruses

> > > > but we have to allow that it might not. Lyme's is also heat-

> > > > sensitive I'm told a hot bath causes herx's with it, true?

> > > >

> > > > Small induction cooktops use high frequency high voltage coils to

> > > > heat up iron in pots, making a fast cook, even fast than microwaves

> > > > in some cases. Placing one near the body might be interesting to

> > > > see if they have some effect. They don't generate heat on their

> > > > surfaces, but their underlying coils get hot and have fans to cool

> > > > them. They are about 120 bucks. Look up " Sunpentown Induction

> > > > Cooktop " on google. I have two of them. They're slick, with

> > > > adjustable power settings, timer, and the works in an attractive

> > > > package. It's a great system for cooking who knows if it would

> > > > power up your microbes to new levels?

> > > >

> > > > If it IS heat, and nothing wrong with that, then this thing might be

> > > > a way to gently heat the area and kill the Lyme's, better than the

> > > > big car battery thing. They do plug in the wall, so watch out, but

> > > > are considered safe in kitchens, etc. NO ideas if this is really

> > > > safe around the body used like this, however, watch out, please.

> > > >

> > > > bG

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > bG, I have no scientific references, but I can tell you that over

> > > > 20 people

> > > > > using the mag pulser on their Lyme have noticed that it does

> > > > indeed kill

> > > > > microbes, maybe better than anything else.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lyme people can easily tell this by herxheimer reactions, and

> > > > other symptoms

> > > > > which are unmistakable.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> > > > devices and other things useful in research. These are free to

> members.

> > > > Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our

> > freedom

> > > of

> > > > speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are

> ordinary

> > > lay

> > > > people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind.

> > The

> > > > information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most

> group

> > > > members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not

request

> > > > medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human

compassion.

> > > There

> > > > are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical

> > > advice.

> > > > The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme

of

> > the

> > > > group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate

> microbes,

> > as

> > > > it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are

> > > > interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

> repeatability,

> > > or

> > > > whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your

> > understanding,

> > > > good luck researching. --bG

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Duncan,

Which magpulser did you use? A commercial one? A homemade, Beck type? A car

battery/solenoid/#10 or #12 wire coil?

Dick

Re: Mag pulsers do kill microbes

> >

> > bG, I have no scientific references, but I can tell you that over 20

> > people using the mag pulser on their Lyme have noticed that it does

> > indeed kill microbes, maybe better than anything else.

>

> Similarly, I have eradicated two cases of osteomyelitis and five of

> jaw infections with the magnetic pulser. Because there is no way to

> actively move the infection in a large bone, that does not leave many

> other possibilities for consideration.

>

> regards,

>

> Duncan

>

>

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

devices and other things useful in research. These are free to members.

Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of

speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay

people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The

information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group

members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request

medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There

are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice.

The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the

group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as

it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are

interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or

whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding,

good luck researching. --bG

>

[Guest guest]

I was cleaning out under my workbench and discovered an electric fence

charger that pulses 7kv at approx 1 second intervals. Might this be

a sort of source for an automatic spark generator or sorts. Certainly,

would fire a spark plug.

Just tossing out the thought.

O'

[Guest guest]

,

Hook it up to a spark plug and switch and see if it makes a spark. If so,

use it around a sore joint, headache, etc. Be a guinea pig and let us know.

Remember, it wasn't me that told you to do this.

Dick

Re: Re: Mag pulsers do kill microbes

> I was cleaning out under my workbench and discovered an electric fence

> charger that pulses 7kv at approx 1 second intervals. Might this be

> a sort of source for an automatic spark generator or sorts. Certainly,

> would fire a spark plug.

>

> Just tossing out the thought.

>

> O'

>

>

>

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

devices and other things useful in research. These are free to members.

Membership is free, but you agree to be on your own, not take our freedom of

speech as medical advice. We are not doctors! Repeat, we are ordinary lay

people, not experts, not healthy officials, or geniuses of any kind. The

information on this group is not intended as medical advice. Most group

members are NOT doctors or health authorities. Please do not request

medical advice, lest anyone get into trouble out of human compassion. There

are huge fines and issues currently involved with unlicensed medical advice.

The group is only here to share experiences according to the theme of the

group, namely testing if electrical stimulus might inactivate microbes, as

it seems to have done in the Einstein Medical College labs. We are

interested in your results, but cannot say anything about repeatability, or

whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for your understanding,

good luck researching. --bG

>

[Guest guest]

> Duncan,

>

> Which magpulser did you use? A commercial one? A homemade, Beck type?

> A car battery/solenoid/#10 or #12 wire coil?

>

> Dick

Hi Dick,

We used SOTAs commercial Beck-approved MPG2 magnetic pulser to cure

jaw bone infections and osteomyelitis of the leg. Seems to be quite

reliable.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Agree. It takes the Sota magpulse unit about 3 minutes to blow up a rod

bacterium.

Re: Mag pulsers do kill microbes

> I can see where it might be useful in such things. In each case

> there is swelling and accumulations of fluids that would be moved,

> and pain releived. With the fluid, germs, if any might be moved

> along into the system where the immune function can catch up with

> them. I'd expect some relief from shingles and other things that

> hide out. It may not have to actually alter the germs to get the

> job done in such cases. I've found it often relieved pain, whether

> there was a germ involved or irritation and swelling from other

> causes, like overuse of joint, sport injury to joint, etc.

>

> In things like malaria where germ is already in the bloodstream and

> mobile, it might be better using a blood electrifier to deal

> directly with the germ as a germicide.

>

> bG

>

>

> > > Duncan,

> > >

> > > Which magpulser did you use? A commercial one? A homemade, Beck

> type?

> > > A car battery/solenoid/#10 or #12 wire coil?

> > >

> > > Dick

> > Hi Dick,

> >

> > We used SOTAs commercial Beck-approved MPG2 magnetic pulser to

> cure

> > jaw bone infections and osteomyelitis of the leg. Seems to be

> quite

> > reliable.

> >

> > Duncan