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-Hi Ethel welcome to the group. SOrry to hear

all you have been thru. Sad as it is it seems like

we all end up alone fighting our pain. Maybe we push

people away because we hate to have them see us in so

much pain. Or maybe its just they don't know how to

deal with us since they can't really help us. But what I

think people fail to realize is how much their support

and standing beside us does help. Having someone to

unload on when it gets to be too much, or just having

someone to be there when the world feels so unfair.

Its a tough road I will say and I wouldn't wish this

on anyone because I know how hard it is. I think the

loneliness is the worst part, thats one of the reasons

for this group so people don't feel so alone and that

they find others who really do understand their pain.

I hope you will feel free to post whenever you can,

when you are up to it. YOu are so young its so sad to

me that you have to go thru all you do already.

I hope surgery next year will help you with your pain.

may I ask why are you waiting till next year and not

having it now?? Best wishes and welcome again

Sharon Group Owner

-- In neck pain , " jarv.jarv "

<jarv.jarv@...> wrote:

>

> hi everyone, im ethel and im 24 years old.

> this is the first time im joining a group.

> I have spondylothesis(hope i spelled it tight)

> of L4-L5. the doctor told us that most likely

> congenital. i havent felt the pain on my lower

> back until i was 18. back then i was active in

> martial arts(judo and aikido), i used to do

> mountain climbing too before it all started.

> and now, i cant walk around the house.cant sit

> for more than a couple of minutes depending

> how bad the pain is.i even find it hard to

> wash my hand now since i have to put my

> hands in front of me which puts pressure

> to my back. I've been depressed ever since.

> i try to break out of it,struggle,plunge

> down again.and start over...

> but this year is the worst ever...

> my partner broke up with me early feb. maybe it

> was my temper that pushed her away, i dont

> know til now. i live far from my family,

> lost most of my friends,and she was the only

> one i've got left. months have passed but still

> i cant forget what she said..

> she told me, " ethel, just because you are negetive

> doesnt mean i have to become negative too. "

> and " you baby the pain so much. "

> enough with her(lol). early next year im planning

> to take that surgery. im really nervous but i want

> to be better... right now im preparing emotionally

> for the fussion and also quitting smoking.

>

> just reading your previous posts inspires me alot.

> i apologize in advance if i cant post often. or if

> i do, it might be short coz i cant sit in front

> of the pc for more than 5 mins...

> i type this in parts coz i have to rest often...

>

> i hope to get to know everyone. and if there's

> something i can do to help, i will be glad to.

>

> ethel

>

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thanks for the welcome sharon...

it really means alot to me,especially now that im

stuck to my room almost 24/7. i miss my old life.

i just drift back to that time when i was well.

you know...

i still cant have the operation since we dont

have enough money yet. I live in Philippines

and life here is getting harder and harder

each day... its sad that my family have to suffer

for my condition. especially my dad, he's still

recovering from cancer. i wish that i was well

and could help him pay the bills...

my best wishes to you too and to everyone..

thanks again...

ethel

> >

> > hi everyone, im ethel and im 24 years old.

> > this is the first time im joining a group.

> > I have spondylothesis(hope i spelled it tight)

> > of L4-L5. the doctor told us that most likely

> > congenital. i havent felt the pain on my lower

> > back until i was 18. back then i was active in

> > martial arts(judo and aikido), i used to do

> > mountain climbing too before it all started.

> > and now, i cant walk around the house.cant sit

> > for more than a couple of minutes depending

> > how bad the pain is.i even find it hard to

> > wash my hand now since i have to put my

> > hands in front of me which puts pressure

> > to my back. I've been depressed ever since.

> > i try to break out of it,struggle,plunge

> > down again.and start over...

> > but this year is the worst ever...

> > my partner broke up with me early feb. maybe it

> > was my temper that pushed her away, i dont

> > know til now. i live far from my family,

> > lost most of my friends,and she was the only

> > one i've got left. months have passed but still

> > i cant forget what she said..

> > she told me, " ethel, just because you are negetive

> > doesnt mean i have to become negative too. "

> > and " you baby the pain so much. "

> > enough with her(lol). early next year im planning

> > to take that surgery. im really nervous but i want

> > to be better... right now im preparing emotionally

> > for the fussion and also quitting smoking.

> >

> > just reading your previous posts inspires me alot.

> > i apologize in advance if i cant post often. or if

> > i do, it might be short coz i cant sit in front

> > of the pc for more than 5 mins...

> > i type this in parts coz i have to rest often...

> >

> > i hope to get to know everyone. and if there's

> > something i can do to help, i will be glad to.

> >

> > ethel

> >

>

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HELLO ETHEL, LET ME GIVE YOU A GREAT BIG OL TEXAS WELCOME TO THE GROUP.

This is a good bunch of folks that can relate to your pain ,depression and

everything else that comes with having back, neck and just spine problems in

general.

You and I have something in common,{BESIDES SPINE PROBLEMS AND PAIN} martial

arts.

At one time I studied a system of ju-jitsu that had several different

elements to it.

We used Japanese kicks,throws and weapons and Chinese hands{kung fu and jet

kundo}

I really did love it.

I went to class four nights a week for several hours each night.Then I got

hurt.

I had my first bad spine injury in class when I was thrown wrong and the guy

landed right on top of me.

I continued to study and enjoyed it for several years until I was hurt at my

job and had to stop.

Then I was hurt in an auto accident in October of 2003. {a bad rear end

collision}

That was the icing on top of the cake ,so to speak.

Now I have a herniated disc in my neck,and some that are bulging as well.

I also have some bulging discs in my low back that cause my legs to go numb

when I stand for over 5 minutes.

I have bad headaches and pain in my neck and shoulders 24/7.

I have to take a narcotic pain pill as well as a pain patch to have any type

of pain relief.

Just like you my life is nothing like it used to be.(but then none of us have

the same quality of life that we had before the injury or other condition that

brought us to this group.)

I used to go deer hunting every year and now I am unable to walk through the

woods like I used to when I would hunt.

I really do miss that. I always hunted for the meat,not just for the trophy

like some do.

I may try to go this year ,if I feel up to it.

My wife and I used to enjoy going camping and now I'm not able to do that

either. On a more positive note,

I just got a membership to a health club not far from my house.

I'm really looking forward to being able to get in the pool and do some water

exercise. Hope to start that sometime next week

It's a good form of exercise and is gentile on the joints.

I'm disabled and am on social security disability.{here in the states that's a

type of government payment when you are unable to work. it's hard to get and

and you have to go through a lot of red tape to get it.}

Well,so much for me. I just wanted to give you a little bit of my background.

Now, back to you and your reason for being here.

Here in this group you will never be alone again.

There will always be someone here that will respond to you when you need to

talk to someone,or just need to vent when you are having a bad time of it .

Never hesitate to come here and just let yourself say what ever you need to

say.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR.

WE ARE HERE FOR ONE ANOTHER AND TO GIVE EACH OTHER THE SUPPORT THAT WE ALL

NEED FROM TIME TO TIME.

Well, I guess that I've said enough. I hope that you will feel like coming

here often and will be able to post and let us know how you are.

MAY YOU HAVE A BETTER DAY TOMORROW THAN YOU HAD TODAY.

TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE.

LARRY FROM COWTOWN

{ THAT'S FT.WORTH ,TEXAS,WHERE THE WEST BEGINS}

" jarv.jarv " <jarv.jarv@...> wrote:

hi everyone, im ethel and im 24 years old.

this is the first time im joining a group.

I have spondylothesis(hope i spelled it tight)

of L4-L5. the doctor told us that most likely

congenital. i havent felt the pain on my lower

back until i was 18. back then i was active in

martial arts(judo and aikido), i used to do

mountain climbing too before it all started.

and now, i cant walk around the house.cant sit

for more than a couple of minutes depending

how bad the pain is.i even find it hard to

wash my hand now since i have to put my

hands in front of me which puts pressure

to my back. I've been depressed ever since.

i try to break out of it,struggle,plunge

down again.and start over...

but this year is the worst ever...

my partner broke up with me early feb. maybe it

was my temper that pushed her away, i dont

know til now. i live far from my family,

lost most of my friends,and she was the only

one i've got left. months have passed but still

i cant forget what she said..

she told me, " ethel, just because you are negetive

doesnt mean i have to become negative too. "

and " you baby the pain so much. "

enough with her(lol). early next year im planning

to take that surgery. im really nervous but i want

to be better... right now im preparing emotionally

for the fussion and also quitting smoking.

just reading your previous posts inspires me alot.

i apologize in advance if i cant post often. or if

i do, it might be short coz i cant sit in front

of the pc for more than 5 mins...

i type this in parts coz i have to rest often...

i hope to get to know everyone. and if there's

something i can do to help, i will be glad to.

ethel

REMEMBER ALL OF OUR MEN AND

WOMEN IN THE ARMED SERVICE OF OUR NATION

PRAY THAT THEY MAY BE SAFE

AND SOUND IN BODY AND MIND

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Hi Ethel you are most welcome. You will find this is a very nice,

caring group of people and if you want to post anytime someone will

answer you back. Do they have something like Medicare of help for

people with no insurance there? I know nothing about healthcare

systems in other countries. I am assuming you have no insurance for

your surgery, I wasn't sure. But welcome to the group I know you

will find several others here your age who are in similar situations

and as I said there are many wonderful caring people here who will

support you when you need it or just be here as a shoulder to lean

on when you feel like posting. Welcome again. Sharon Group Owner

>

> thanks for the welcome sharon...

> it really means alot to me,especially now that im

> stuck to my room almost 24/7. i miss my old life.

> i just drift back to that time when i was well.

> you know...

> i still cant have the operation since we dont

> have enough money yet. I live in Philippines

> and life here is getting harder and harder

> each day... its sad that my family have to suffer

> for my condition. especially my dad, he's still

> recovering from cancer. i wish that i was well

> and could help him pay the bills...

> my best wishes to you too and to everyone..

> thanks again...

> ethel

>

>

>

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