Pain in foot

August 7, 2006

Just curious if anyone here has had a sharp pain in

the area between the arch of your foot and your big

toe. Not the bottom though, closer between the middle

and top if that makes any since. It started a couple

of days ago and then went up my leg to the outside

part of my leg below the knee, it never went up any

further. It started the next day in my other leg. It

isnt as bad now, just more of a dull pain but still

hurts.

I called the drs office and got so aggravated. They

made it out to be sciatica. I kept telling the PA that

it wasnt going down my leg and then she would comment

again about pain shooting down my leg. I made it clear

three times to her, it wasnt going down it was coming

up from my foot but wasnt the same kind of pain as

sciatica. Boy do I already know what that feels like.

It makes you wonder if they suffer from lack of memory

or stupidity. I never call the drs office and complain

or ask for meds unless I am in so much pain I cant

stand it. Which has been maybe three of four in a

years time, so I know that it isnt because they are

tired of me calling. I dont even take pain meds unless

I am hurting really bad. My body doesnt react to them

very well. I get out of whack and all emotional. I

hate it. Cant win for losing. Anyways, she told me to

take some Aleve over the weekend and she would try to

call me back on Monday. I thought to myself, TRY! I

just said ok, hung up and got up. Which isnt me at

all. I just get tired of dealing with it and getting

nowhere.

Sorry I am going on and on. I just really needed to

get this out. I had a bad weekend and still am. I

wanted to come here earlier today but the pain going

down my arms was so bad I didnt want to type. I hate

all of this. I am nowhere near the person I was before

my accident. I was full of life, outgoing, I

exercised, rode my bike an hour a day, took the kids

to do things with them. When I wasnt at work, we were

never at home.

Now I dont do much of anything but complain. By b/f

loves to go and do things, he is active like I was a

year ago. It is so unfair to him and my kids. My 17

y/o had to go and live with my aunt and uncle due to

do all of this. He had a kidney transplant two years

ago and still has appts he has to go to. Most of the

appts. are in Gainesville, Florida. I cant even make

the drive to take him. Nor could I continue to take

him to school. I feel like a test animal that has been

caged up for the drs and the insurance company to do

what they please with. Isnt that an awful thing to

say, but it is the way I feel. Ok, I will stop ranting

now. Just needed to get it out. Just glad to know that

there are others out there that know what I am talking

about and dont get frustrated for me going on about

it.

Lorey

__________________________________________________

August 7, 2006

HI LOREY,YOU FEEL FREE TO COME HERE AND VENT ALL YOU NED TO WHENEVER YOU NEED TO

DO SO.WE ARE HERE FOR YOU.

HOPE THAT YOU WILL GET BETTER. WE ALL KNOW WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM WHEN YOU

SAY THAT YOU ARE NO WHERE NEAR THE PERSON THAT YOU WERE BEFORE YOU ACCIDENT. WE

ALL HAVE HAD LIFE CHANGING THINGS TO HAPPEN TO US,SO WE KNOW JUST WHAT YOU ARE

TALKING ABOUT.

MAY YOU HAVE A BETTER DAY TODAY THAN YESTERDAY AND NOT AS GOOD A DAY AS

TOMORROW.

TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE!

LARRY FROM COWTOWN

l s <southgagirl31@...> wrote:

Just curious if anyone here has had a sharp pain in

the area between the arch of your foot and your big

toe. Not the bottom though, closer between the middle

and top if that makes any since. It started a couple

of days ago and then went up my leg to the outside

part of my leg below the knee, it never went up any

further. It started the next day in my other leg. It

isnt as bad now, just more of a dull pain but still

hurts.

I called the drs office and got so aggravated. They

made it out to be sciatica. I kept telling the PA that

it wasnt going down my leg and then she would comment

again about pain shooting down my leg. I made it clear

three times to her, it wasnt going down it was coming

up from my foot but wasnt the same kind of pain as

sciatica. Boy do I already know what that feels like.

It makes you wonder if they suffer from lack of memory

or stupidity. I never call the drs office and complain

or ask for meds unless I am in so much pain I cant

stand it. Which has been maybe three of four in a

years time, so I know that it isnt because they are

tired of me calling. I dont even take pain meds unless

I am hurting really bad. My body doesnt react to them

very well. I get out of whack and all emotional. I

hate it. Cant win for losing. Anyways, she told me to

take some Aleve over the weekend and she would try to

call me back on Monday. I thought to myself, TRY! I

just said ok, hung up and got up. Which isnt me at

all. I just get tired of dealing with it and getting

nowhere.

Sorry I am going on and on. I just really needed to

get this out. I had a bad weekend and still am. I

wanted to come here earlier today but the pain going

down my arms was so bad I didnt want to type. I hate

all of this. I am nowhere near the person I was before

my accident. I was full of life, outgoing, I

exercised, rode my bike an hour a day, took the kids

to do things with them. When I wasnt at work, we were

never at home.

Now I dont do much of anything but complain. By b/f

loves to go and do things, he is active like I was a

year ago. It is so unfair to him and my kids. My 17

y/o had to go and live with my aunt and uncle due to

do all of this. He had a kidney transplant two years

ago and still has appts he has to go to. Most of the

appts. are in Gainesville, Florida. I cant even make

the drive to take him. Nor could I continue to take

him to school. I feel like a test animal that has been

caged up for the drs and the insurance company to do

what they please with. Isnt that an awful thing to

say, but it is the way I feel. Ok, I will stop ranting

now. Just needed to get it out. Just glad to know that

there are others out there that know what I am talking

about and dont get frustrated for me going on about

it.

Lorey

__________________________________________________

August 7, 2006

HI LOREY,I'VE NOT HAD MORE THAN 4 HOURS SLEEP SINCE 4PM LAST FRIDAY. NEEDLESS TO

SAY I'M READY TO CRASH AND BURN IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

TAKE CARE AND BE SAFE. I'M OFF TO BED FINALLY SLEEPY ENOUGH TO GO TO BED.

LARRY

l s <southgagirl31@...> wrote:

Guess I am not the only one that had trouble sleeping

at night, huh. Funny thing is, I almost feel guilty

for complaining to you guys.

Thanks for the support!

Lorey

--- Larry Gullahorn <lagullahorn68-69@...>

wrote:

> HI LOREY,YOU FEEL FREE TO COME HERE AND VENT ALL YOU

> NED TO WHENEVER YOU NEED TO DO SO.WE ARE HERE FOR

> YOU.

> HOPE THAT YOU WILL GET BETTER. WE ALL KNOW WHERE

> YOU ARE COMING FROM WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE NO

> WHERE NEAR THE PERSON THAT YOU WERE BEFORE YOU

> ACCIDENT. WE ALL HAVE HAD LIFE CHANGING THINGS TO

> HAPPEN TO US,SO WE KNOW JUST WHAT YOU ARE TALKING

> ABOUT.

> MAY YOU HAVE A BETTER DAY TODAY THAN YESTERDAY AND

> NOT AS GOOD A DAY AS TOMORROW.

> TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE!

> LARRY FROM COWTOWN

>

> l s <southgagirl31@...> wrote:

> Just curious if anyone here has had a

> sharp pain in

> the area between the arch of your foot and your big

> toe. Not the bottom though, closer between the

> middle

> and top if that makes any since. It started a couple

> of days ago and then went up my leg to the outside

> part of my leg below the knee, it never went up any

> further. It started the next day in my other leg. It

> isnt as bad now, just more of a dull pain but still

> hurts.

> I called the drs office and got so aggravated. They

> made it out to be sciatica. I kept telling the PA

> that

> it wasnt going down my leg and then she would

> comment

> again about pain shooting down my leg. I made it

> clear

> three times to her, it wasnt going down it was

> coming

> up from my foot but wasnt the same kind of pain as

> sciatica. Boy do I already know what that feels

> like.

>

> It makes you wonder if they suffer from lack of

> memory

> or stupidity. I never call the drs office and

> complain

> or ask for meds unless I am in so much pain I cant

> stand it. Which has been maybe three of four in a

> years time, so I know that it isnt because they are

> tired of me calling. I dont even take pain meds

> unless

> I am hurting really bad. My body doesnt react to

> them

> very well. I get out of whack and all emotional. I

> hate it. Cant win for losing. Anyways, she told me

> to

> take some Aleve over the weekend and she would try

> to

> call me back on Monday. I thought to myself, TRY! I

> just said ok, hung up and got up. Which isnt me at

> all. I just get tired of dealing with it and getting

> nowhere.

> Sorry I am going on and on. I just really needed to

> get this out. I had a bad weekend and still am. I

> wanted to come here earlier today but the pain going

> down my arms was so bad I didnt want to type. I hate

> all of this. I am nowhere near the person I was

> before

> my accident. I was full of life, outgoing, I

> exercised, rode my bike an hour a day, took the kids

> to do things with them. When I wasnt at work, we

> were

> never at home.

> Now I dont do much of anything but complain. By b/f

> loves to go and do things, he is active like I was a

> year ago. It is so unfair to him and my kids. My 17

> y/o had to go and live with my aunt and uncle due to

> do all of this. He had a kidney transplant two years

> ago and still has appts he has to go to. Most of the

> appts. are in Gainesville, Florida. I cant even make

> the drive to take him. Nor could I continue to take

> him to school. I feel like a test animal that has

> been

> caged up for the drs and the insurance company to do

> what they please with. Isnt that an awful thing to

> say, but it is the way I feel. Ok, I will stop

> ranting

> now. Just needed to get it out. Just glad to know

> that

> there are others out there that know what I am

> talking

> about and dont get frustrated for me going on about

> it.

> Lorey

>

> __________________________________________________

>

August 7, 2006

Larry,

Isn't there anything out there that can get you to sleep even a few hours

every nite, or has your body become immune to sleeping meds? On bad nites, I'm

still able to take an anti-anxiety pill, even though I have sleeping pills. I

try not to take them, my teeth are getting really bad from dry mouth, but dr.

says we need sleep to help heal our bodies, we've probably all been told that at

some time or another. You must feel like a walking Zombie, it must be torture to

constantly not be able to sleep and be in pain, I'm so sorry-

Larry Gullahorn <lagullahorn68-69@...> wrote:

HI LOREY,I'VE NOT HAD MORE THAN 4 HOURS SLEEP SINCE 4PM LAST FRIDAY.

NEEDLESS TO SAY I'M READY TO CRASH AND BURN IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

TAKE CARE AND BE SAFE. I'M OFF TO BED FINALLY SLEEPY ENOUGH TO GO TO BED.

LARRY

l s <southgagirl31@...> wrote:

Guess I am not the only one that had trouble sleeping

at night, huh. Funny thing is, I almost feel guilty

for complaining to you guys.

Thanks for the support!

Lorey

--- Larry Gullahorn <lagullahorn68-69@...>

wrote:

> HI LOREY,YOU FEEL FREE TO COME HERE AND VENT ALL YOU

> NED TO WHENEVER YOU NEED TO DO SO.WE ARE HERE FOR

> YOU.

> HOPE THAT YOU WILL GET BETTER. WE ALL KNOW WHERE

> YOU ARE COMING FROM WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU ARE NO

> WHERE NEAR THE PERSON THAT YOU WERE BEFORE YOU

> ACCIDENT. WE ALL HAVE HAD LIFE CHANGING THINGS TO

> HAPPEN TO US,SO WE KNOW JUST WHAT YOU ARE TALKING

> ABOUT.

> MAY YOU HAVE A BETTER DAY TODAY THAN YESTERDAY AND

> NOT AS GOOD A DAY AS TOMORROW.

> TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE!

> LARRY FROM COWTOWN

>

> l s <southgagirl31@...> wrote:

> Just curious if anyone here has had a

> sharp pain in

> the area between the arch of your foot and your big

> toe. Not the bottom though, closer between the

> middle

> and top if that makes any since. It started a couple

> of days ago and then went up my leg to the outside

> part of my leg below the knee, it never went up any

> further. It started the next day in my other leg. It

> isnt as bad now, just more of a dull pain but still

> hurts.

> I called the drs office and got so aggravated. They

> made it out to be sciatica. I kept telling the PA

> that

> it wasnt going down my leg and then she would

> comment

> again about pain shooting down my leg. I made it

> clear

> three times to her, it wasnt going down it was

> coming

> up from my foot but wasnt the same kind of pain as

> sciatica. Boy do I already know what that feels

> like.

>

> It makes you wonder if they suffer from lack of

> memory

> or stupidity. I never call the drs office and

> complain

> or ask for meds unless I am in so much pain I cant

> stand it. Which has been maybe three of four in a

> years time, so I know that it isnt because they are

> tired of me calling. I dont even take pain meds

> unless

> I am hurting really bad. My body doesnt react to

> them

> very well. I get out of whack and all emotional. I

> hate it. Cant win for losing. Anyways, she told me

> to

> take some Aleve over the weekend and she would try

> to

> call me back on Monday. I thought to myself, TRY! I

> just said ok, hung up and got up. Which isnt me at

> all. I just get tired of dealing with it and getting

> nowhere.

> Sorry I am going on and on. I just really needed to

> get this out. I had a bad weekend and still am. I

> wanted to come here earlier today but the pain going

> down my arms was so bad I didnt want to type. I hate

> all of this. I am nowhere near the person I was

> before

> my accident. I was full of life, outgoing, I

> exercised, rode my bike an hour a day, took the kids

> to do things with them. When I wasnt at work, we

> were

> never at home.

> Now I dont do much of anything but complain. By b/f

> loves to go and do things, he is active like I was a

> year ago. It is so unfair to him and my kids. My 17

> y/o had to go and live with my aunt and uncle due to

> do all of this. He had a kidney transplant two years

> ago and still has appts he has to go to. Most of the

> appts. are in Gainesville, Florida. I cant even make

> the drive to take him. Nor could I continue to take

> him to school. I feel like a test animal that has

> been

> caged up for the drs and the insurance company to do

> what they please with. Isnt that an awful thing to

> say, but it is the way I feel. Ok, I will stop

> ranting

> now. Just needed to get it out. Just glad to know

> that

> there are others out there that know what I am

> talking

> about and dont get frustrated for me going on about

> it.

> Lorey

>

> __________________________________________________

>

August 7, 2006

Hi Lori, I had that pain for many years but it was caused by my

bunions. It's an awful pain especially if you have to be on your

feet for any amount of time. Since my job does require that I be on

my feet and moving constantly, I've found that Quark or Croc clogs

are great. They come in many colours so I have fun buying all the

colors to match my scrubs ))

Since I've had bunion surgery, the pain isn't that bad but now, I

have pain running down the inside of my leg to my ankles. It feels

like it is in the bones and is very painful. I don't take any pain

meds except for an anti inflammatory occasionally. I do have a

problem with narcotic pain medications.... I like them too much and

they like me and we become very dependant on eacy other )) So, my

options are limited. Anyway, I don't know if this helps or not.

But good luck with your journey finding an answer.

Peace always,

ann

>

> Just curious if anyone here has had a sharp pain in

> the area between the arch of your foot and your big

> toe. Not the bottom though, closer between the middle

> and top if that makes any since. It started a couple

> of days ago and then went up my leg to the outside

> part of my leg below the knee, it never went up any

> further. It started the next day in my other leg. It

> isnt as bad now, just more of a dull pain but still

> hurts.

> I called the drs office and got so aggravated. They

> made it out to be sciatica. I kept telling the PA that

> it wasnt going down my leg and then she would comment

> again about pain shooting down my leg. I made it clear

> three times to her, it wasnt going down it was coming

> up from my foot but wasnt the same kind of pain as

> sciatica. Boy do I already know what that feels like.

>

> It makes you wonder if they suffer from lack of memory

> or stupidity. I never call the drs office and complain

> or ask for meds unless I am in so much pain I cant

> stand it. Which has been maybe three of four in a

> years time, so I know that it isnt because they are

> tired of me calling. I dont even take pain meds unless

> I am hurting really bad. My body doesnt react to them

> very well. I get out of whack and all emotional. I

> hate it. Cant win for losing. Anyways, she told me to

> take some Aleve over the weekend and she would try to

> call me back on Monday. I thought to myself, TRY! I

> just said ok, hung up and got up. Which isnt me at

> all. I just get tired of dealing with it and getting

> nowhere.

> Sorry I am going on and on. I just really needed to

> get this out. I had a bad weekend and still am. I

> wanted to come here earlier today but the pain going

> down my arms was so bad I didnt want to type. I hate

> all of this. I am nowhere near the person I was before

> my accident. I was full of life, outgoing, I

> exercised, rode my bike an hour a day, took the kids

> to do things with them. When I wasnt at work, we were

> never at home.

> Now I dont do much of anything but complain. By b/f

> loves to go and do things, he is active like I was a

> year ago. It is so unfair to him and my kids. My 17

> y/o had to go and live with my aunt and uncle due to

> do all of this. He had a kidney transplant two years

> ago and still has appts he has to go to. Most of the

> appts. are in Gainesville, Florida. I cant even make

> the drive to take him. Nor could I continue to take

> him to school. I feel like a test animal that has been

> caged up for the drs and the insurance company to do

> what they please with. Isnt that an awful thing to

> say, but it is the way I feel. Ok, I will stop ranting

> now. Just needed to get it out. Just glad to know that

> there are others out there that know what I am talking

> about and dont get frustrated for me going on about

> it.

> Lorey

>

> __________________________________________________

>

August 7, 2006

Hi Lori, I had that pain for many years but it was caused by my

bunions. It's an awful pain especially if you have to be on your

feet for any amount of time. Since my job does require that I be on

my feet and moving constantly, I've found that Quark or Croc clogs

are great. They come in many colours so I have fun buying all the

colors to match my scrubs ))

Since I've had bunion surgery, the pain isn't that bad but now, I

have pain running down the inside of my leg to my ankles. It feels

like it is in the bones and is very painful. I don't take any pain

meds except for an anti inflammatory occasionally. I do have a

problem with narcotic pain medications.... I like them too much and

they like me and we become very dependant on eacy other )) So, my

options are limited. Anyway, I don't know if this helps or not.

But good luck with your journey finding an answer.

Peace always,

ann

>

> Just curious if anyone here has had a sharp pain in

> the area between the arch of your foot and your big

> toe. Not the bottom though, closer between the middle

> and top if that makes any since. It started a couple

> of days ago and then went up my leg to the outside

> part of my leg below the knee, it never went up any

> further. It started the next day in my other leg. It

> isnt as bad now, just more of a dull pain but still

> hurts.

> I called the drs office and got so aggravated. They

> made it out to be sciatica. I kept telling the PA that

> it wasnt going down my leg and then she would comment

> again about pain shooting down my leg. I made it clear

> three times to her, it wasnt going down it was coming

> up from my foot but wasnt the same kind of pain as

> sciatica. Boy do I already know what that feels like.

>

> It makes you wonder if they suffer from lack of memory

> or stupidity. I never call the drs office and complain

> or ask for meds unless I am in so much pain I cant

> stand it. Which has been maybe three of four in a

> years time, so I know that it isnt because they are

> tired of me calling. I dont even take pain meds unless

> I am hurting really bad. My body doesnt react to them

> very well. I get out of whack and all emotional. I

> hate it. Cant win for losing. Anyways, she told me to

> take some Aleve over the weekend and she would try to

> call me back on Monday. I thought to myself, TRY! I

> just said ok, hung up and got up. Which isnt me at

> all. I just get tired of dealing with it and getting

> nowhere.

> Sorry I am going on and on. I just really needed to

> get this out. I had a bad weekend and still am. I

> wanted to come here earlier today but the pain going

> down my arms was so bad I didnt want to type. I hate

> all of this. I am nowhere near the person I was before

> my accident. I was full of life, outgoing, I

> exercised, rode my bike an hour a day, took the kids

> to do things with them. When I wasnt at work, we were

> never at home.

> Now I dont do much of anything but complain. By b/f

> loves to go and do things, he is active like I was a

> year ago. It is so unfair to him and my kids. My 17

> y/o had to go and live with my aunt and uncle due to

> do all of this. He had a kidney transplant two years

> ago and still has appts he has to go to. Most of the

> appts. are in Gainesville, Florida. I cant even make

> the drive to take him. Nor could I continue to take

> him to school. I feel like a test animal that has been

> caged up for the drs and the insurance company to do

> what they please with. Isnt that an awful thing to

> say, but it is the way I feel. Ok, I will stop ranting

> now. Just needed to get it out. Just glad to know that

> there are others out there that know what I am talking

> about and dont get frustrated for me going on about

> it.

> Lorey

>

> __________________________________________________

>

August 7, 2006

Lorey, I have what I call electric shocks that hit my body just about any where

including my feet. to me they can be more bothersome than the lumbar and hip

pain. I have just started having alot of trouble with pain in my feet. Some

times it is very hard to even walk they hurt so bad.

Hugs and Prayers, Babs

Chronic illness Chronic Pain You are not alone

August 7, 2006

Lorey, I have what I call electric shocks that hit my body just about any where

including my feet. to me they can be more bothersome than the lumbar and hip

pain. I have just started having alot of trouble with pain in my feet. Some

times it is very hard to even walk they hurt so bad.

Hugs and Prayers, Babs

Chronic illness Chronic Pain You are not alone

August 7, 2006

-Hi Lorey I had pain in my foot that used to sometimes go around my

whole foot sometimes it was just between my big toe and on the top

of my foot, sometimes it would go up my leg which it did alot. All

of this was due to sciatic pain. It started 6 yrs ago in my ankle

and got worse each year, even after my first surgery it got alot

worse so bad to the point I could barely walk at all sometime. So

yes I think what you are describing is caused by your sciatic nerve.

Hard to believe that nerve can affect your foot as much as it can.

If you go to the links section and look up " Dermatone Map " you can

go to the map and pinpoint any part of your body that hurts and it

will tell you what is cuaing pain there. If you need anymore help

with this just let me know I should be an expect at this after 6+

yrs of dealing with it. Thankfully since my last surgery it is a

little better not gone by a long shot but not as bad as it was

before it either. Now I just pray for the pain I have now not to get

worse. I know that poor nerve is so damaged now from being squsished

all this time I will be lucky if it totally goes away and doesn't

get worse again. All I can do is pray that doesn't happen Hang in

there I hope the map explains it more to you than I can here. Sharon

Group Owner'''

-- In neck pain , l s <southgagirl31@...>

wrote:

>

> Just curious if anyone here has had a sharp pain in

> the area between the arch of your foot and your big

> toe. Not the bottom though, closer between the middle

> and top if that makes any since. It started a couple

> of days ago and then went up my leg to the outside

> part of my leg below the knee, it never went up any

> further. It started the next day in my other leg. It

> isnt as bad now, just more of a dull pain but still

> hurts.

> I called the drs office and got so aggravated. They

> made it out to be sciatica. I kept telling the PA that

> it wasnt going down my leg and then she would comment

> again about pain shooting down my leg. I made it clear

> three times to her, it wasnt going down it was coming

> up from my foot but wasnt the same kind of pain as

> sciatica. Boy do I already know what that feels like.

>

> It makes you wonder if they suffer from lack of memory

> or stupidity. I never call the drs office and complain

> or ask for meds unless I am in so much pain I cant

> stand it. Which has been maybe three of four in a

> years time, so I know that it isnt because they are

> tired of me calling. I dont even take pain meds unless

> I am hurting really bad. My body doesnt react to them

> very well. I get out of whack and all emotional. I

> hate it. Cant win for losing. Anyways, she told me to

> take some Aleve over the weekend and she would try to

> call me back on Monday. I thought to myself, TRY! I

> just said ok, hung up and got up. Which isnt me at

> all. I just get tired of dealing with it and getting

> nowhere.

> Sorry I am going on and on. I just really needed to

> get this out. I had a bad weekend and still am. I

> wanted to come here earlier today but the pain going

> down my arms was so bad I didnt want to type. I hate

> all of this. I am nowhere near the person I was before

> my accident. I was full of life, outgoing, I

> exercised, rode my bike an hour a day, took the kids

> to do things with them. When I wasnt at work, we were

> never at home.

> Now I dont do much of anything but complain. By b/f

> loves to go and do things, he is active like I was a

> year ago. It is so unfair to him and my kids. My 17

> y/o had to go and live with my aunt and uncle due to

> do all of this. He had a kidney transplant two years

> ago and still has appts he has to go to. Most of the

> appts. are in Gainesville, Florida. I cant even make

> the drive to take him. Nor could I continue to take

> him to school. I feel like a test animal that has been

> caged up for the drs and the insurance company to do

> what they please with. Isnt that an awful thing to

> say, but it is the way I feel. Ok, I will stop ranting

> now. Just needed to get it out. Just glad to know that

> there are others out there that know what I am talking

> about and dont get frustrated for me going on about

> it.

> Lorey

>

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August 7, 2006