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I love Enya. Very soothing music.

How is your wife doing Rob? I hope that things have gotten much

better since the last time you posted about her.

How about you too? How are you doing?

Hoping that no news is good news,

Katrina :-)

>

> to add to the post; try and find somewhere completely silent from

the

> outside world, if possible. so that all you can hear is the music,

and also

> if possible just listen to the music and let it relax you. there

are

> different tyoes of tapes you caopuld purchase, or just something

like ENYA.

> my wife has gone thru similar problems with her valium. i wish i

could help

> more; really talk to you about it. by now it should be more of a

mental

> problem rather then physical; the dependency anyway, but i know

that doesnt

> help when you are still experiencing the symptoms that led you to

be on

> valium to begin with. its a crappy circle; but you can do it

girl. i have

> faith.

>

> rob

>

> <html><div>No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to

know no

> one cares or understands. </div></html>

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Hi Rob I would say toremind your wife why she wanted to go to this

appt and if she really wants to continue to have the seizures not

knowing what is causing them, they could get worse or they could be

doing permanent damage to her body somehow. Anything you can say or

do, get her parents involved too, anything to get her to go to that

appt. It took so long to get it I know she is discouraged by now,

thinking they will probably not find the answer like everyone else

has but that is no reason to give up. Giving up will solve nothing.

I know its one of the stages you go thru with chronic pain, most

people go thru a period of time when you feel overwhelmed with it

all , when no one seems to be able to help or find answers to help

you so you just feel like giving up is the easiest thing. But its

NOT the right thing to do. If you don't FIGUT it then how can you

possibly hope to win the battle. And it is a battle against your

body and the pain. I am sorry to hear about the accident, glad to

hear your wife and son were not hurt though, very scarey I am sure.

Can you not use your father in laws car to go get groceries and

meds?? If not how about a bicycle or at least a cart of some kind so

you don't have to carry all that stuff, that can't be good for you.

THe walking I am sure is good its a relaxation and exercise at the

sametime, try to look at it as a chance to get out in the nice

weather and enjoy the day maybe that will help.When I first started

walking again, to quit using my cane as much I had to really push

myself to do it. It hurt so much just to walk a little way every

step was torture for me with my bad leg, but slowly it got easier. I

try to walk every morning as far as I can. Even though there are

still days when I cant do as much I figure at least I am trying my

best to do it. I wish there was something I could do to help you

guys I can see how close you both are to giving up and I can

honestly say I understand why. But I know for the kids you are

hanging in there if not for yourself. I pray things will take a turn

for the better for you both, the first step though has to be her

going to that appt. Do anything you can to get her to go, maybe if

you remind her how much the kids need her, that its not just for her

but for them too it might help. And maybe this dr will have the

answers she is searching for I sure hope so. I know that would take

a huge load of both of your shoulders if you knew what was causing

her pain and they could treat her for it. I am sorry if this note if

too bossy or too much but I am just trying to be honest, if its too

pushy I am sorry but I honestly hate to see her give up or you

ither. Nothing will change if she does, she has no chance of getting

her life back if she doesn't at least try. I pray she goes and does

try. Best wishes for better day soon, I will keep you both in my

prayers Sharon Group Owner

;

>

> hi and thanks for aasking about us. i just dont bother with much

anymore.

> i cant take it. she hasnt been herself in over 4 months. two

days ago, she

> blew a tire and flipped the cherokee three times; my six year old

and my

> wife were the only passengers. my son got a tiny scratch on his

fingers,

> but my wife has a severe concussion; and staples in her head. she

has a

> test tomorrow in richmond, which is about 1 1/2 hours away. this

is for the

> seizures that she has been having since april. she avoided other

cars and

> she shouldnt be alive right now, the damage to the front seats was

> incredible. i have been walking god knows how many miles in the

past two

> days to get meds and to carry home food. i try not to think about

the pain;

> which is kind of easy when my wife is constantly yelling and even

now after

> finally finding away to get there (her appt, we only had the one

car which

> is my father in laws) she is now refusing to go. her seizures

have kept us

> from having any sort of income since i lost my job in feb, and the

appt took

> two months to get. shes a mess and our marriage and the kids are

suffering

> because of it. the one thing that we have put so much hope in and

now she

> wont go. nothing is better except she didnt die (god was

watching; and my

> son was unhurt) i cant walk but 20 minutes without having to lay

down and

> now i just focus on my life in the marine corps to get me to all

of the

> places i have to walk to and the 75 lbs or so that my bag will

allow me to

> carry full of food. my wife is addicted to her valium, and goes

thru her 60

> pills in less then 10 days. i have no friends except the people

in this

> group, and i cant keep in touch and offer the support that i used

to when i

> first joined. i kind of stay off because all i do is cry when u

talk about

> everything and have a hard time respondijng to others and their

pain and

> suffering. i take care of the house completly now, and the kids,

not just

> because of accident but because she just doesnt do anything

anymore. and

> that pretty much exhausts/hurts too much for anything else. i

hope you are

> doing better and hello and god bless to ewvery one else.

>

> rob

>

> No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no

one cares or

> understands.

>

>

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Hi Rob:

Sorry to hear about the car wreck but glad to know the family is ok.

God was with you all when the accident happened and he is with you

now. Stay strong and just do what you can to make it....

>

> hi and thanks for aasking about us. i just dont bother with much

anymore.

> i cant take it. she hasnt been herself in over 4 months. two

days ago, she

> blew a tire and flipped the cherokee three times; my six year old

and my

> wife were the only passengers. my son got a tiny scratch on his

fingers,

> but my wife has a severe concussion; and staples in her head. she

has a

> test tomorrow in richmond, which is about 1 1/2 hours away. this

is for the

> seizures that she has been having since april. she avoided other

cars and

> she shouldnt be alive right now, the damage to the front seats was

> incredible. i have been walking god knows how many miles in the

past two

> days to get meds and to carry home food. i try not to think about

the pain;

> which is kind of easy when my wife is constantly yelling and even

now after

> finally finding away to get there (her appt, we only had the one

car which

> is my father in laws) she is now refusing to go. her seizures

have kept us

> from having any sort of income since i lost my job in feb, and the

appt took

> two months to get. shes a mess and our marriage and the kids are

suffering

> because of it. the one thing that we have put so much hope in and

now she

> wont go. nothing is better except she didnt die (god was

watching; and my

> son was unhurt) i cant walk but 20 minutes without having to lay

down and

> now i just focus on my life in the marine corps to get me to all

of the

> places i have to walk to and the 75 lbs or so that my bag will

allow me to

> carry full of food. my wife is addicted to her valium, and goes

thru her 60

> pills in less then 10 days. i have no friends except the people

in this

> group, and i cant keep in touch and offer the support that i used

to when i

> first joined. i kind of stay off because all i do is cry when u

talk about

> everything and have a hard time respondijng to others and their

pain and

> suffering. i take care of the house completly now, and the kids,

not just

> because of accident but because she just doesnt do anything

anymore. and

> that pretty much exhausts/hurts too much for anything else. i

hope you are

> doing better and hello and god bless to ewvery one else.

>

> rob

>

> No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no

one cares or

> understands.

>

>

> >From: " Katrina " <sweettoobeme@...>

> >Reply-neck pain

> >neck pain

> >Subject: Re: Rob How is your wife?

> >Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:45:54 -0000

> >

> >I love Enya. Very soothing music.

> >How is your wife doing Rob? I hope that things have gotten much

> >better since the last time you posted about her.

> >How about you too? How are you doing?

> >Hoping that no news is good news,

> >Katrina :-)

> > >

> > > to add to the post; try and find somewhere completely silent

from

> >the

> > > outside world, if possible. so that all you can hear is the

music,

> >and also

> > > if possible just listen to the music and let it relax you.

there

> >are

> > > different tyoes of tapes you caopuld purchase, or just

something

> >like ENYA.

> > > my wife has gone thru similar problems with her valium. i

wish i

> >could help

> > > more; really talk to you about it. by now it should be more

of a

> >mental

> > > problem rather then physical; the dependency anyway, but i know

> >that doesnt

> > > help when you are still experiencing the symptoms that led you

to

> >be on

> > > valium to begin with. its a crappy circle; but you can do it

> >girl. i have

> > > faith.

> > >

> > > rob

> > >

> > > <html><div>No greater burden can be borne by an individual

than to

> >know no

> > > one cares or understands. </div></html>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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thank you all for your concern; i actually had to give her mouth-to-mouth

yesterday morning. she stopped breathing for about 25 seconds. i almost

flipped out but held it together, and remember my training. she seems to be

improving day by day. she has a cracked rib that we didnt know about, so

has trouble breathing every now and again. i do what i can to keep her off

her feet. the lord has truly blessed and watched over us. take care.

rob

No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or

understands.

>From: " Muchacha Dani " <missdanigyrl@...>

>Reply-neck pain

>neck pain

>Subject: Re: Rob How is your wife?

>Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:04:06 -0000

>

>Hi Rob:

>

>Sorry to hear about the car wreck but glad to know the family is ok.

>God was with you all when the accident happened and he is with you

>now. Stay strong and just do what you can to make it....

>

>

> >

> > hi and thanks for aasking about us. i just dont bother with much

>anymore.

> > i cant take it. she hasnt been herself in over 4 months. two

>days ago, she

> > blew a tire and flipped the cherokee three times; my six year old

>and my

> > wife were the only passengers. my son got a tiny scratch on his

>fingers,

> > but my wife has a severe concussion; and staples in her head. she

>has a

> > test tomorrow in richmond, which is about 1 1/2 hours away. this

>is for the

> > seizures that she has been having since april. she avoided other

>cars and

> > she shouldnt be alive right now, the damage to the front seats was

> > incredible. i have been walking god knows how many miles in the

>past two

> > days to get meds and to carry home food. i try not to think about

>the pain;

> > which is kind of easy when my wife is constantly yelling and even

>now after

> > finally finding away to get there (her appt, we only had the one

>car which

> > is my father in laws) she is now refusing to go. her seizures

>have kept us

> > from having any sort of income since i lost my job in feb, and the

>appt took

> > two months to get. shes a mess and our marriage and the kids are

>suffering

> > because of it. the one thing that we have put so much hope in and

>now she

> > wont go. nothing is better except she didnt die (god was

>watching; and my

> > son was unhurt) i cant walk but 20 minutes without having to lay

>down and

> > now i just focus on my life in the marine corps to get me to all

>of the

> > places i have to walk to and the 75 lbs or so that my bag will

>allow me to

> > carry full of food. my wife is addicted to her valium, and goes

>thru her 60

> > pills in less then 10 days. i have no friends except the people

>in this

> > group, and i cant keep in touch and offer the support that i used

>to when i

> > first joined. i kind of stay off because all i do is cry when u

>talk about

> > everything and have a hard time respondijng to others and their

>pain and

> > suffering. i take care of the house completly now, and the kids,

>not just

> > because of accident but because she just doesnt do anything

>anymore. and

> > that pretty much exhausts/hurts too much for anything else. i

>hope you are

> > doing better and hello and god bless to ewvery one else.

> >

> > rob

> >

> > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no

>one cares or

> > understands.

> >

> >

> > >From: " Katrina " <sweettoobeme@...>

> > >Reply-neck pain

> > >neck pain

> > >Subject: Re: Rob How is your wife?

> > >Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:45:54 -0000

> > >

> > >I love Enya. Very soothing music.

> > >How is your wife doing Rob? I hope that things have gotten much

> > >better since the last time you posted about her.

> > >How about you too? How are you doing?

> > >Hoping that no news is good news,

> > >Katrina :-)

> > > >

> > > > to add to the post; try and find somewhere completely silent

>from

> > >the

> > > > outside world, if possible. so that all you can hear is the

>music,

> > >and also

> > > > if possible just listen to the music and let it relax you.

>there

> > >are

> > > > different tyoes of tapes you caopuld purchase, or just

>something

> > >like ENYA.

> > > > my wife has gone thru similar problems with her valium. i

>wish i

> > >could help

> > > > more; really talk to you about it. by now it should be more

>of a

> > >mental

> > > > problem rather then physical; the dependency anyway, but i know

> > >that doesnt

> > > > help when you are still experiencing the symptoms that led you

>to

> > >be on

> > > > valium to begin with. its a crappy circle; but you can do it

> > >girl. i have

> > > > faith.

> > > >

> > > > rob

> > > >

> > > > <html><div>No greater burden can be borne by an individual

>than to

> > >know no

> > > > one cares or understands. </div></html>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > _________________________________________________________________

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> >

>

>

>

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thank you all for your concern; i actually had to give her mouth-to-mouth

yesterday morning. she stopped breathing for about 25 seconds. i almost

flipped out but held it together, and remember my training. she seems to be

improving day by day. she has a cracked rib that we didnt know about, so

has trouble breathing every now and again. i do what i can to keep her off

her feet. the lord has truly blessed and watched over us. take care.

rob

No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or

understands.

>From: " Muchacha Dani " <missdanigyrl@...>

>Reply-neck pain

>neck pain

>Subject: Re: Rob How is your wife?

>Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:04:06 -0000

>

>Hi Rob:

>

>Sorry to hear about the car wreck but glad to know the family is ok.

>God was with you all when the accident happened and he is with you

>now. Stay strong and just do what you can to make it....

>

>

> >

> > hi and thanks for aasking about us. i just dont bother with much

>anymore.

> > i cant take it. she hasnt been herself in over 4 months. two

>days ago, she

> > blew a tire and flipped the cherokee three times; my six year old

>and my

> > wife were the only passengers. my son got a tiny scratch on his

>fingers,

> > but my wife has a severe concussion; and staples in her head. she

>has a

> > test tomorrow in richmond, which is about 1 1/2 hours away. this

>is for the

> > seizures that she has been having since april. she avoided other

>cars and

> > she shouldnt be alive right now, the damage to the front seats was

> > incredible. i have been walking god knows how many miles in the

>past two

> > days to get meds and to carry home food. i try not to think about

>the pain;

> > which is kind of easy when my wife is constantly yelling and even

>now after

> > finally finding away to get there (her appt, we only had the one

>car which

> > is my father in laws) she is now refusing to go. her seizures

>have kept us

> > from having any sort of income since i lost my job in feb, and the

>appt took

> > two months to get. shes a mess and our marriage and the kids are

>suffering

> > because of it. the one thing that we have put so much hope in and

>now she

> > wont go. nothing is better except she didnt die (god was

>watching; and my

> > son was unhurt) i cant walk but 20 minutes without having to lay

>down and

> > now i just focus on my life in the marine corps to get me to all

>of the

> > places i have to walk to and the 75 lbs or so that my bag will

>allow me to

> > carry full of food. my wife is addicted to her valium, and goes

>thru her 60

> > pills in less then 10 days. i have no friends except the people

>in this

> > group, and i cant keep in touch and offer the support that i used

>to when i

> > first joined. i kind of stay off because all i do is cry when u

>talk about

> > everything and have a hard time respondijng to others and their

>pain and

> > suffering. i take care of the house completly now, and the kids,

>not just

> > because of accident but because she just doesnt do anything

>anymore. and

> > that pretty much exhausts/hurts too much for anything else. i

>hope you are

> > doing better and hello and god bless to ewvery one else.

> >

> > rob

> >

> > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no

>one cares or

> > understands.

> >

> >

> > >From: " Katrina " <sweettoobeme@...>

> > >Reply-neck pain

> > >neck pain

> > >Subject: Re: Rob How is your wife?

> > >Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:45:54 -0000

> > >

> > >I love Enya. Very soothing music.

> > >How is your wife doing Rob? I hope that things have gotten much

> > >better since the last time you posted about her.

> > >How about you too? How are you doing?

> > >Hoping that no news is good news,

> > >Katrina :-)

> > > >

> > > > to add to the post; try and find somewhere completely silent

>from

> > >the

> > > > outside world, if possible. so that all you can hear is the

>music,

> > >and also

> > > > if possible just listen to the music and let it relax you.

>there

> > >are

> > > > different tyoes of tapes you caopuld purchase, or just

>something

> > >like ENYA.

> > > > my wife has gone thru similar problems with her valium. i

>wish i

> > >could help

> > > > more; really talk to you about it. by now it should be more

>of a

> > >mental

> > > > problem rather then physical; the dependency anyway, but i know

> > >that doesnt

> > > > help when you are still experiencing the symptoms that led you

>to

> > >be on

> > > > valium to begin with. its a crappy circle; but you can do it

> > >girl. i have

> > > > faith.

> > > >

> > > > rob

> > > >

> > > > <html><div>No greater burden can be borne by an individual

>than to

> > >know no

> > > > one cares or understands. </div></html>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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>

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i am new to the group, and don't know all the background, but you will be in my

thoughts and prayers. i will trust that answers will be forthcoming for you

all.

carol

Re: Rob How is your wife?

> > >Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:45:54 -0000

> > >

> > >I love Enya. Very soothing music.

> > >How is your wife doing Rob? I hope that things have gotten much

> > >better since the last time you posted about her.

> > >How about you too? How are you doing?

> > >Hoping that no news is good news,

> > >Katrina :-)

> > > >

> > > > to add to the post; try and find somewhere completely silent

>from

> > >the

> > > > outside world, if possible. so that all you can hear is the

>music,

> > >and also

> > > > if possible just listen to the music and let it relax you.

>there

> > >are

> > > > different tyoes of tapes you caopuld purchase, or just

>something

> > >like ENYA.

> > > > my wife has gone thru similar problems with her valium. i

>wish i

> > >could help

> > > > more; really talk to you about it. by now it should be more

>of a

> > >mental

> > > > problem rather then physical; the dependency anyway, but i know

> > >that doesnt

> > > > help when you are still experiencing the symptoms that led you

>to

> > >be on

> > > > valium to begin with. its a crappy circle; but you can do it

> > >girl. i have

> > > > faith.

> > > >

> > > > rob

> > > >

> > > > <html><div>No greater burden can be borne by an individual

>than to

> > >know no

> > > > one cares or understands. </div></html>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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i am new to the group, and don't know all the background, but you will be in my

thoughts and prayers. i will trust that answers will be forthcoming for you

all.

carol

Re: Rob How is your wife?

> > >Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:45:54 -0000

> > >

> > >I love Enya. Very soothing music.

> > >How is your wife doing Rob? I hope that things have gotten much

> > >better since the last time you posted about her.

> > >How about you too? How are you doing?

> > >Hoping that no news is good news,

> > >Katrina :-)

> > > >

> > > > to add to the post; try and find somewhere completely silent

>from

> > >the

> > > > outside world, if possible. so that all you can hear is the

>music,

> > >and also

> > > > if possible just listen to the music and let it relax you.

>there

> > >are

> > > > different tyoes of tapes you caopuld purchase, or just

>something

> > >like ENYA.

> > > > my wife has gone thru similar problems with her valium. i

>wish i

> > >could help

> > > > more; really talk to you about it. by now it should be more

>of a

> > >mental

> > > > problem rather then physical; the dependency anyway, but i know

> > >that doesnt

> > > > help when you are still experiencing the symptoms that led you

>to

> > >be on

> > > > valium to begin with. its a crappy circle; but you can do it

> > >girl. i have

> > > > faith.

> > > >

> > > > rob

> > > >

> > > > <html><div>No greater burden can be borne by an individual

>than to

> > >know no

> > > > one cares or understands. </div></html>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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she went; but like usual, when she didn't get the immediate help plus the

pain from her accident taken care of, she left. the nurse actually called

me and told me to get her out of there. they were afraid for their nurses,

and culd do nothing to help her. she wants things done her way or no way at

all; which means getiing her help almost impossible. her excuse was the

electrodes would not fit right on her head because of her staples. i

pretend to understand and believe her, but know deep down that she caused

her own removal from the hospital. it cost me 144$ to get her home from

richmond by cab. money we definately didnt have. i am caught in a never

ending cycle between trying to get her help and trying to keep her from

feeling alone in her struggles; someone has to take her side or i really

think she would lose her mind comletely. im trying so hard, but its hard to

help someone who wont listen to what the doctors have t say.

on a semi brighter nte it was my birthday on friday; iam now 32. that was

her parents vehicle that she totaled; but they were kind enough to come down

this weekend (despite rae leaving her appt early, they are not stupid) and

helped us to get into a pretty nice mini van. i have to admit though, the

walking and the hauling around stuff has seemed to help with my back. it

has definately improved my leg muscles which is much needed. thank you for

your continued support and concern. we are making it day by day. the only

thing keeping us out of her parents house right now is our cat. she refuses

to move with out it. though i point out her cat is less important than her

family. unfortunately i now have to find away to secrtly get rid of her or

we will never get the help we need from her family. some day things will

get better; i dont see how they could get to much worse; knock on wood.

except maybe my neck will go out next; who knows.

thank you again

rob

No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or

understands.

>From: " darkstarzz1019 " <darkstarzz1019@...>

>Reply-neck pain

>neck pain

>Subject: Re: Rob How is your wife?

>Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:42:15 -0000

>

>Hi Rob I would say toremind your wife why she wanted to go to this

>appt and if she really wants to continue to have the seizures not

>knowing what is causing them, they could get worse or they could be

>doing permanent damage to her body somehow. Anything you can say or

>do, get her parents involved too, anything to get her to go to that

>appt. It took so long to get it I know she is discouraged by now,

>thinking they will probably not find the answer like everyone else

>has but that is no reason to give up. Giving up will solve nothing.

>I know its one of the stages you go thru with chronic pain, most

>people go thru a period of time when you feel overwhelmed with it

>all , when no one seems to be able to help or find answers to help

>you so you just feel like giving up is the easiest thing. But its

>NOT the right thing to do. If you don't FIGUT it then how can you

>possibly hope to win the battle. And it is a battle against your

>body and the pain. I am sorry to hear about the accident, glad to

>hear your wife and son were not hurt though, very scarey I am sure.

>Can you not use your father in laws car to go get groceries and

>meds?? If not how about a bicycle or at least a cart of some kind so

>you don't have to carry all that stuff, that can't be good for you.

>THe walking I am sure is good its a relaxation and exercise at the

>sametime, try to look at it as a chance to get out in the nice

>weather and enjoy the day maybe that will help.When I first started

>walking again, to quit using my cane as much I had to really push

>myself to do it. It hurt so much just to walk a little way every

>step was torture for me with my bad leg, but slowly it got easier. I

>try to walk every morning as far as I can. Even though there are

>still days when I cant do as much I figure at least I am trying my

>best to do it. I wish there was something I could do to help you

>guys I can see how close you both are to giving up and I can

>honestly say I understand why. But I know for the kids you are

>hanging in there if not for yourself. I pray things will take a turn

>for the better for you both, the first step though has to be her

>going to that appt. Do anything you can to get her to go, maybe if

>you remind her how much the kids need her, that its not just for her

>but for them too it might help. And maybe this dr will have the

>answers she is searching for I sure hope so. I know that would take

>a huge load of both of your shoulders if you knew what was causing

>her pain and they could treat her for it. I am sorry if this note if

>too bossy or too much but I am just trying to be honest, if its too

>pushy I am sorry but I honestly hate to see her give up or you

>ither. Nothing will change if she does, she has no chance of getting

>her life back if she doesn't at least try. I pray she goes and does

>try. Best wishes for better day soon, I will keep you both in my

>prayers Sharon Group Owner

>

>;

> >

> > hi and thanks for aasking about us. i just dont bother with much

>anymore.

> > i cant take it. she hasnt been herself in over 4 months. two

>days ago, she

> > blew a tire and flipped the cherokee three times; my six year old

>and my

> > wife were the only passengers. my son got a tiny scratch on his

>fingers,

> > but my wife has a severe concussion; and staples in her head. she

>has a

> > test tomorrow in richmond, which is about 1 1/2 hours away. this

>is for the

> > seizures that she has been having since april. she avoided other

>cars and

> > she shouldnt be alive right now, the damage to the front seats was

> > incredible. i have been walking god knows how many miles in the

>past two

> > days to get meds and to carry home food. i try not to think about

>the pain;

> > which is kind of easy when my wife is constantly yelling and even

>now after

> > finally finding away to get there (her appt, we only had the one

>car which

> > is my father in laws) she is now refusing to go. her seizures

>have kept us

> > from having any sort of income since i lost my job in feb, and the

>appt took

> > two months to get. shes a mess and our marriage and the kids are

>suffering

> > because of it. the one thing that we have put so much hope in and

>now she

> > wont go. nothing is better except she didnt die (god was

>watching; and my

> > son was unhurt) i cant walk but 20 minutes without having to lay

>down and

> > now i just focus on my life in the marine corps to get me to all

>of the

> > places i have to walk to and the 75 lbs or so that my bag will

>allow me to

> > carry full of food. my wife is addicted to her valium, and goes

>thru her 60

> > pills in less then 10 days. i have no friends except the people

>in this

> > group, and i cant keep in touch and offer the support that i used

>to when i

> > first joined. i kind of stay off because all i do is cry when u

>talk about

> > everything and have a hard time respondijng to others and their

>pain and

> > suffering. i take care of the house completly now, and the kids,

>not just

> > because of accident but because she just doesnt do anything

>anymore. and

> > that pretty much exhausts/hurts too much for anything else. i

>hope you are

> > doing better and hello and god bless to ewvery one else.

> >

> > rob

> >

> > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no

>one cares or

> > understands.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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she went; but like usual, when she didn't get the immediate help plus the

pain from her accident taken care of, she left. the nurse actually called

me and told me to get her out of there. they were afraid for their nurses,

and culd do nothing to help her. she wants things done her way or no way at

all; which means getiing her help almost impossible. her excuse was the

electrodes would not fit right on her head because of her staples. i

pretend to understand and believe her, but know deep down that she caused

her own removal from the hospital. it cost me 144$ to get her home from

richmond by cab. money we definately didnt have. i am caught in a never

ending cycle between trying to get her help and trying to keep her from

feeling alone in her struggles; someone has to take her side or i really

think she would lose her mind comletely. im trying so hard, but its hard to

help someone who wont listen to what the doctors have t say.

on a semi brighter nte it was my birthday on friday; iam now 32. that was

her parents vehicle that she totaled; but they were kind enough to come down

this weekend (despite rae leaving her appt early, they are not stupid) and

helped us to get into a pretty nice mini van. i have to admit though, the

walking and the hauling around stuff has seemed to help with my back. it

has definately improved my leg muscles which is much needed. thank you for

your continued support and concern. we are making it day by day. the only

thing keeping us out of her parents house right now is our cat. she refuses

to move with out it. though i point out her cat is less important than her

family. unfortunately i now have to find away to secrtly get rid of her or

we will never get the help we need from her family. some day things will

get better; i dont see how they could get to much worse; knock on wood.

except maybe my neck will go out next; who knows.

thank you again

rob

No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or

understands.

>From: " darkstarzz1019 " <darkstarzz1019@...>

>Reply-neck pain

>neck pain

>Subject: Re: Rob How is your wife?

>Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:42:15 -0000

>

>Hi Rob I would say toremind your wife why she wanted to go to this

>appt and if she really wants to continue to have the seizures not

>knowing what is causing them, they could get worse or they could be

>doing permanent damage to her body somehow. Anything you can say or

>do, get her parents involved too, anything to get her to go to that

>appt. It took so long to get it I know she is discouraged by now,

>thinking they will probably not find the answer like everyone else

>has but that is no reason to give up. Giving up will solve nothing.

>I know its one of the stages you go thru with chronic pain, most

>people go thru a period of time when you feel overwhelmed with it

>all , when no one seems to be able to help or find answers to help

>you so you just feel like giving up is the easiest thing. But its

>NOT the right thing to do. If you don't FIGUT it then how can you

>possibly hope to win the battle. And it is a battle against your

>body and the pain. I am sorry to hear about the accident, glad to

>hear your wife and son were not hurt though, very scarey I am sure.

>Can you not use your father in laws car to go get groceries and

>meds?? If not how about a bicycle or at least a cart of some kind so

>you don't have to carry all that stuff, that can't be good for you.

>THe walking I am sure is good its a relaxation and exercise at the

>sametime, try to look at it as a chance to get out in the nice

>weather and enjoy the day maybe that will help.When I first started

>walking again, to quit using my cane as much I had to really push

>myself to do it. It hurt so much just to walk a little way every

>step was torture for me with my bad leg, but slowly it got easier. I

>try to walk every morning as far as I can. Even though there are

>still days when I cant do as much I figure at least I am trying my

>best to do it. I wish there was something I could do to help you

>guys I can see how close you both are to giving up and I can

>honestly say I understand why. But I know for the kids you are

>hanging in there if not for yourself. I pray things will take a turn

>for the better for you both, the first step though has to be her

>going to that appt. Do anything you can to get her to go, maybe if

>you remind her how much the kids need her, that its not just for her

>but for them too it might help. And maybe this dr will have the

>answers she is searching for I sure hope so. I know that would take

>a huge load of both of your shoulders if you knew what was causing

>her pain and they could treat her for it. I am sorry if this note if

>too bossy or too much but I am just trying to be honest, if its too

>pushy I am sorry but I honestly hate to see her give up or you

>ither. Nothing will change if she does, she has no chance of getting

>her life back if she doesn't at least try. I pray she goes and does

>try. Best wishes for better day soon, I will keep you both in my

>prayers Sharon Group Owner

>

>;

> >

> > hi and thanks for aasking about us. i just dont bother with much

>anymore.

> > i cant take it. she hasnt been herself in over 4 months. two

>days ago, she

> > blew a tire and flipped the cherokee three times; my six year old

>and my

> > wife were the only passengers. my son got a tiny scratch on his

>fingers,

> > but my wife has a severe concussion; and staples in her head. she

>has a

> > test tomorrow in richmond, which is about 1 1/2 hours away. this

>is for the

> > seizures that she has been having since april. she avoided other

>cars and

> > she shouldnt be alive right now, the damage to the front seats was

> > incredible. i have been walking god knows how many miles in the

>past two

> > days to get meds and to carry home food. i try not to think about

>the pain;

> > which is kind of easy when my wife is constantly yelling and even

>now after

> > finally finding away to get there (her appt, we only had the one

>car which

> > is my father in laws) she is now refusing to go. her seizures

>have kept us

> > from having any sort of income since i lost my job in feb, and the

>appt took

> > two months to get. shes a mess and our marriage and the kids are

>suffering

> > because of it. the one thing that we have put so much hope in and

>now she

> > wont go. nothing is better except she didnt die (god was

>watching; and my

> > son was unhurt) i cant walk but 20 minutes without having to lay

>down and

> > now i just focus on my life in the marine corps to get me to all

>of the

> > places i have to walk to and the 75 lbs or so that my bag will

>allow me to

> > carry full of food. my wife is addicted to her valium, and goes

>thru her 60

> > pills in less then 10 days. i have no friends except the people

>in this

> > group, and i cant keep in touch and offer the support that i used

>to when i

> > first joined. i kind of stay off because all i do is cry when u

>talk about

> > everything and have a hard time respondijng to others and their

>pain and

> > suffering. i take care of the house completly now, and the kids,

>not just

> > because of accident but because she just doesnt do anything

>anymore. and

> > that pretty much exhausts/hurts too much for anything else. i

>hope you are

> > doing better and hello and god bless to ewvery one else.

> >

> > rob

> >

> > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no

>one cares or

> > understands.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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thank you, i try and get her to her appts. she actually hates thehospitals

aroung here, and last night we found good reason. she got her insurance to

drive her 45 min away to another hospital to take out her staples - they

found glass in her head that hadnt been cleaned out, and fractured ribs,

that had never been xrayed by the other hospitals, though she went to two

and told them that they hurt. her lungs were filling with liquid and i

actually had to give her mouth to mouth the other morning. she should have

been in a cast for her ribs, but now it is too late, and basically has to

try and lay still as much as possible. it's like being in the desert and

seeing something good coming up but realizing its only a mirage. hopefully

the real thing will appear eventually. thank you

rob

No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or

understands.

>From: " Babs " <barbnal@...>

>Reply-neck pain

><neck pain >

>Subject: Re: Re: Rob How is your wife?

>Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:49:35 -0400

>

>, sorry to hear about your wife's car wreck. I glad that they were

>able to walk away from it. It sounds like your wife has gotten into a very

>bad depression. Pulling out of something like that takes alot of will

>power, but most of all she needs to talk to someone to let out all the

>things inside her that has led her to that place. Having health issues is

>always hard to deal with even for the strong. It changes your life so much.

>I do pray that she will take the steps to go to the doctor to learn why she

>has them and maybe a way of dealing with them and possibly getting on meds

>that will help her to not have them.

>Hugs & Prayers Babs

>

>

>

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thank you, i try and get her to her appts. she actually hates thehospitals

aroung here, and last night we found good reason. she got her insurance to

drive her 45 min away to another hospital to take out her staples - they

found glass in her head that hadnt been cleaned out, and fractured ribs,

that had never been xrayed by the other hospitals, though she went to two

and told them that they hurt. her lungs were filling with liquid and i

actually had to give her mouth to mouth the other morning. she should have

been in a cast for her ribs, but now it is too late, and basically has to

try and lay still as much as possible. it's like being in the desert and

seeing something good coming up but realizing its only a mirage. hopefully

the real thing will appear eventually. thank you

rob

No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or

understands.

>From: " Babs " <barbnal@...>

>Reply-neck pain

><neck pain >

>Subject: Re: Re: Rob How is your wife?

>Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:49:35 -0400

>

>, sorry to hear about your wife's car wreck. I glad that they were

>able to walk away from it. It sounds like your wife has gotten into a very

>bad depression. Pulling out of something like that takes alot of will

>power, but most of all she needs to talk to someone to let out all the

>things inside her that has led her to that place. Having health issues is

>always hard to deal with even for the strong. It changes your life so much.

>I do pray that she will take the steps to go to the doctor to learn why she

>has them and maybe a way of dealing with them and possibly getting on meds

>that will help her to not have them.

>Hugs & Prayers Babs

>

>

>

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Hi Rob sorry for the late reply I had a bad weekend and just

couldn't get online. Sorry to hear your wife was hurt worse but glad

the other hospital found the problems and helped her. Maybe that

will be the light for her. I know ribs hurt I had two broken by a

horse one time, geez I remember it was no fun for awhile. But Dee is

right she does need to keep a little active and watch for fluid

buildup in her lungs and blood clots those two things can be very

dangerous. Glad to hear you got a new car and hopefully things are

starting to look up for you all. Will keep you and your family in my

prayers. Best wishes Sharon Group Owner

>

> thank you, i try and get her to her appts. she actually hates

thehospitals

> aroung here, and last night we found good reason. she got her

insurance to

> drive her 45 min away to another hospital to take out her staples -

they

> found glass in her head that hadnt been cleaned out, and fractured

ribs,

> that had never been xrayed by the other hospitals, though she went

to two

> and told them that they hurt. her lungs were filling with liquid

and i

> actually had to give her mouth to mouth the other morning. she

should have

> been in a cast for her ribs, but now it is too late, and basically

has to

> try and lay still as much as possible. it's like being in the

desert and

> seeing something good coming up but realizing its only a mirage.

hopefully

> the real thing will appear eventually. thank you

>

> rob

>

> No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no

one cares or

> understands.

>

>

> >

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