Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 That is so weird I guess I got a 2 for one he didnt say it was new or anything so i thought it was standard procedure. Wow Sincerely Janine In Calibeverly nunn <bevnunn@...> wrote: Janine Hmm, hadnt heard of it done like that. As far as the adr it just came out here--fusion's were all they did before that. This was to replace the fusion --not having to permanently lock two disk together and the adr would give you more movement. Beverly -- Re: Im New---From Beverly Hi Beverly,I have not had surgeries yet. I face surgery here in the next little bit. I have my choice between single level fusion(tlif)and the Artificial Disc. I want the ADR.I understand the fear and worry. I have put it all off for a long time too but I can't live like this anymore. I wish I knew some easier ways to go about all this. I can offer my support and encouragement. Keep me posted on how you are doing? :-)Katrina in Idaho> My nmae is Beverly. > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and > also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and > it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had > this and have any advice on this issue?> Thxs> Beverly __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 I know what you mean Lynda I tend to roll in my sleep and if I am not on my back when i wake up I am in a heap of trouble. Its like I am stuck and it hurts soooooooooooooooo bad trying to roll to my back to get out of bed it feels like something is going to snap. Sincerely Janine In Calilynda ball <lmbecd@...> wrote: Hi,I still have alot of problems falling asleep and forthe most part sleep at least 5 hours. The problem issometimes I don't fall asleep until 6a.m. I realizedseveral years ago PART of the problem (I've ALWAYS hadproblems falling asleep, even as a child)since thechronic pain started. I know when I wake up I am goingto be in extreme pain. At least while I'm awake I cantake my pain meds (NO they do not make me drowsy). IfI get lucky and sleep more than 5 hours, I amextremely grateful for the rest, but then the pain iseven more extreme when I wake up and worry over howlong it will take to get the pain under control. I know, I now know part of my sleeping difficulty andthere is nothing I can do about it, yet night afternight I sit up watching t.v. Not quite rationalthinking, but pain can do that. (Yes I'm on sleepingpills too).Take care all,Lynda--- Janine Newman <jnewmans1@...> wrote:> Sleep seems to be next to nothing for the members of> this group. I am up at LEAST 4 times a night. I am> luck if I can sleep 2 hours in a row. It gets to be> soooo irritating sometimes. The pain and stiffness> is the worst during the night. Especially when you> have to pee real bad and you cant get up. I just> pray I make it every time so far my prayers have> been answered. Tonight I pray for everyone to get a> good nights rest. > Sincerely Janine in Cali > > beverly nunn <bevnunn@...> wrote:> lYNDA> Thank you. Yes, its scarey. I dont sleep well> either. Takes me 1-3 hrs just to go to sleep then> the waking up is annoying. Im going to pin Dr. down> August 3rd on all issues. It concerns me because i> have copd. Though i live in pain--im not ready to> die just yet . Thxs so much for your support.> God bless> Beverly > > -- Re: Im New---From> > Beverly> > > > Hi beverly,> > My ex had 2 surgeries, the first a lamenctomy at> > L5-S1> > 6/99, then Fusion starting at L5-S1 and up for 3> > disks, with the removal the the disk at L5-S1 and> > bone> > graft. He did well for quite awhile, but> > unfortunately> > did not follow through with any form of exercise> and> > put on alot of weight which caused much more pain.> > > I guess what I'm saying is you need to follow> > through> > with after care if you do have this next surgery.> > Until he started gaining weight he was getting> > better.> > No extreme activity was asked of him. Just some> > simple> > walking and swimming. No physical therapy. The> only> > other probelm he had physically, was he found out> by> > accident he could not dive into a pool. My now 20> > year> > old son and I were watching and as soon as he went> > off> > that diving board we knew it would be a bellyflop.> > He> > came up out of the water with a very red and sore> > belly. LOL.> > Lynda> > > > --- bnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote:> > > > > My nmae is Beverly. > > > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one> > > resulted in a spinal > > > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this> > fusion,> > > my L5-s1 disk has > > > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr> > wants> > > to do another > > > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going> > > under anthesia and > > > also putting the additional stress of another> > fusion> > > on my spine. Ive > > > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I> see> > my> > > Spine DR August > > > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im> so> > > scared to do it and > > > it is really consuming my life worrying about> all> > > it. Has anyone had > > > this and have any advice on this issue?> > > Thxs> > > Beverly> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Discover > > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and> > more. Check it out! > > http://discover./stayintouch.html> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 HEY LINDA, I KNOW JUST WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS NOT BEING ABLE TO SLEEP GOES. MOST OF THE TIME I AM UP TILL 4-5-6 AM BEFORE I CAN GO TO SLEEP.THIS HAPPENS A LOT.THEN WHEN MY BODY GETS TO A CERTAIN POINT I CRASH AND BURN,SO TO SPEAK. THEN I SLEEP FOR ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 12 HOURS OR MORE. .I JUST COLLAPSE FROM EXHAUSTION. IT REALLY IS A PAIN IN THE NECK IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN LIKE TODAY I ONLY SLEPT ABOUT 2 1/2 HOURS AND JUST COULD NOT GO BACK TO SLEEP. WELL,THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT GOES SOMETIMES. IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF US IN THIS GROUP HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM [iN ADDITION TO PAIN] A REAL BIG LACK OF SLEEP. WELL,I'VE SAID ENOUGH FOR NOW,SO I'LL JUST STOP. IT IS MY HOPE THAT EVERYONE HAS A BETTER DAY THAN YESTERDAY AND NOT AS GOOD A DAY AS TOMORROW. TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE. LARRY,GROUP MODERATOR lynda ball <lmbecd@...> wrote: Hi,I still have alot of problems falling asleep and forthe most part sleep at least 5 hours. The problem issometimes I don't fall asleep until 6a.m. I realizedseveral years ago PART of the problem (I've ALWAYS hadproblems falling asleep, even as a child)since thechronic pain started. I know when I wake up I am goingto be in extreme pain. At least while I'm awake I cantake my pain meds (NO they do not make me drowsy). IfI get lucky and sleep more than 5 hours, I amextremely grateful for the rest, but then the pain iseven more extreme when I wake up and worry over howlong it will take to get the pain under control. I know, I now know part of my sleeping difficulty andthere is nothing I can do about it, yet night afternight I sit up watching t.v. Not quite rationalthinking, but pain can do that. (Yes I'm on sleepingpills too).Take care all,Lynda--- Janine Newman <jnewmans1@...> wrote:> Sleep seems to be next to nothing for the members of> this group. I am up at LEAST 4 times a night. I am> luck if I can sleep 2 hours in a row. It gets to be> soooo irritating sometimes. The pain and stiffness> is the worst during the night. Especially when you> have to pee real bad and you cant get up. I just> pray I make it every time so far my prayers have> been answered. Tonight I pray for everyone to get a> good nights rest. > Sincerely Janine in Cali > > beverly nunn <bevnunn@...> wrote:> lYNDA> Thank you. Yes, its scarey. I dont sleep well> either. Takes me 1-3 hrs just to go to sleep then> the waking up is annoying. Im going to pin Dr. down> August 3rd on all issues. It concerns me because i> have copd. Though i live in pain--im not ready to> die just yet . Thxs so much for your support.> God bless> Beverly > > -- Re: Im New---From> > Beverly> > > > Hi beverly,> > My ex had 2 surgeries, the first a lamenctomy at> > L5-S1> > 6/99, then Fusion starting at L5-S1 and up for 3> > disks, with the removal the the disk at L5-S1 and> > bone> > graft. He did well for quite awhile, but> > unfortunately> > did not follow through with any form of exercise> and> > put on alot of weight which caused much more pain.> > > I guess what I'm saying is you need to follow> > through> > with after care if you do have this next surgery.> > Until he started gaining weight he was getting> > better.> > No extreme activity was asked of him. Just some> > simple> > walking and swimming. No physical therapy. The> only> > other probelm he had physically, was he found out> by> > accident he could not dive into a pool. My now 20> > year> > old son and I were watching and as soon as he went> > off> > that diving board we knew it would be a bellyflop.> > He> > came up out of the water with a very red and sore> > belly. LOL.> > Lynda> > > > --- bnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote:> > > > > My nmae is Beverly. > > > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one> > > resulted in a spinal > > > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this> > fusion,> > > my L5-s1 disk has > > > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr> > wants> > > to do another > > > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going> > > under anthesia and > > > also putting the additional stress of another> > fusion> > > on my spine. Ive > > > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I> see> > my> > > Spine DR August > > > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im> so> > > scared to do it and > > > it is really consuming my life worrying about> all> > > it. Has anyone had > > > this and have any advice on this issue?> > > Thxs> > > Beverly> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Discover > > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and> > more. Check it out! > > http://discover./stayintouch.html> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Well, my fusion i have now hasnt failed. It just puts stress on the other vertabrae above usually---but it cauded the lower one to collapse and degenerate faster than normal. They put rods and srews in with it--but took them out 3 yrs ago to see if they were causing an irritation somehow. But that wasnt the problem. I never used the bone stimulator. Mine fused fine and i smoked. I still smoke but hope to quit prior to surgery this time for anesthesia reasons. Beverly -- Re: Re: Im New---From Beverly I have heard of a fusion not taking. My doctor says that sometimes the bone wont grow and they have to go in and try I think it is called bone graphs and cadavers. They were really concerned with me because I am a somker and said that the bone growth is much slower they gave me this bone stimulator its like a george jetson jet pack and I was to wear it for 2 hours a day for the first year. my bone has grown just slowly the cadaver bone took just fine and they say sometimes when they use cadavers they dont take and the body regects it. Sincerley Janine In Calidarkstarzz1019 <darkstarzz1019@...> wrote: Hello Beverly, why did the first fusion fail?? Did they not put a cage and rods in there to hold it or did the disc fall apart? Sorry I've never heard of one failing like that I am guessing somehow the dr did something wrong the first time. But if you've been suffering for 2 yrs I think I'd go ahead and get it done and fixed right this time. Just ask the dr lots of questions and make sure he is the one you want if he is truly a good surgeon he will not mind you asking him about the surgery and making sure you feel at ease about it. Although I know you are scared I sure wouldn't want to continue to live in pain if there was some way to fix it, I'd give it a shot. Best of luck let us know how it turns out Sharon Group Owner. > My nmae is Beverly. > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and > also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and > it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had > this and have any advice on this issue?> Thxs> Beverly Discover Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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