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Welcome to the group. I've only had one back surgery and it was a

decompressive lumbar lamenectomy, no way at all as serious as yours

but this is the right group to get your questions answered.

> My nmae is Beverly.

> Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal

> fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk

has

> collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another

> fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and

> also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine.

Ive

> held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August

> 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it

and

> it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had

> this and have any advice on this issue?

> Thxs

> Beverly

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Welcome to the Group Beverly you have come to the right place. I have had 2 surgeries so far and from the looks of it I have more in my future. I had a microdiscectomy on my l-4 l-5 in october 2002 then 9 months later they did a caged fusion with a fake disc in the same area. I have massive scar tissue surrounding a vital nerve and they are saying something about my S-1 I have waited almost 2 years and have procrastinated as much as I can because the thought of going under AGAIN scares the you know what out of me. Not only that but I have 3 children and I have been much of a burden on them already and they are still young. I dont want them to take care of me I want to be able to take care of them. So I will wait this one out until I absolutely have to do it My doctor says that if I waited it would not complicate things so i just have to keep myself in the mind set that I will wait until I cant take it anymore. I suffered for 7 years before they ever

figured out what was wrong with me to begin with so I think that recovering from the fusion is my first priority. they said my bone growth is slow so I am healing really slow. I am almost fully fused i guess from what he said to me in March when they took xrays but I am still waiting for the MRI. I hope you enjoy this group I look forward to getting to know you. I also dont want to discourage you to doing something that you might need to have right away I am jsut a big chicken and my doc knows this and I dont think he would allpw something to go if it was going to be dangerousbnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote:

My nmae is Beverly. Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had this and have any advice on this issue?ThxsBeverly

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Welcome to the Group Beverly you have come to the right place. I have had 2 surgeries so far and from the looks of it I have more in my future. I had a microdiscectomy on my l-4 l-5 in october 2002 then 9 months later they did a caged fusion with a fake disc in the same area. I have massive scar tissue surrounding a vital nerve and they are saying something about my S-1 I have waited almost 2 years and have procrastinated as much as I can because the thought of going under AGAIN scares the you know what out of me. Not only that but I have 3 children and I have been much of a burden on them already and they are still young. I dont want them to take care of me I want to be able to take care of them. So I will wait this one out until I absolutely have to do it My doctor says that if I waited it would not complicate things so i just have to keep myself in the mind set that I will wait until I cant take it anymore. I suffered for 7 years before they ever

figured out what was wrong with me to begin with so I think that recovering from the fusion is my first priority. they said my bone growth is slow so I am healing really slow. I am almost fully fused i guess from what he said to me in March when they took xrays but I am still waiting for the MRI. I hope you enjoy this group I look forward to getting to know you. I also dont want to discourage you to doing something that you might need to have right away I am jsut a big chicken and my doc knows this and I dont think he would allpw something to go if it was going to be dangerousbnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote:

My nmae is Beverly. Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had this and have any advice on this issue?ThxsBeverly

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Welcome to the Group Beverly you have come to the right place. I have had 2 surgeries so far and from the looks of it I have more in my future. I had a microdiscectomy on my l-4 l-5 in october 2002 then 9 months later they did a caged fusion with a fake disc in the same area. I have massive scar tissue surrounding a vital nerve and they are saying something about my S-1 I have waited almost 2 years and have procrastinated as much as I can because the thought of going under AGAIN scares the you know what out of me. Not only that but I have 3 children and I have been much of a burden on them already and they are still young. I dont want them to take care of me I want to be able to take care of them. So I will wait this one out until I absolutely have to do it My doctor says that if I waited it would not complicate things so i just have to keep myself in the mind set that I will wait until I cant take it anymore. I suffered for 7 years before they ever

figured out what was wrong with me to begin with so I think that recovering from the fusion is my first priority. they said my bone growth is slow so I am healing really slow. I am almost fully fused i guess from what he said to me in March when they took xrays but I am still waiting for the MRI. I hope you enjoy this group I look forward to getting to know you. I also dont want to discourage you to doing something that you might need to have right away I am jsut a big chicken and my doc knows this and I dont think he would allpw something to go if it was going to be dangerousbnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote:

My nmae is Beverly. Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had this and have any advice on this issue?ThxsBeverly

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Sounds like we have the same things going on pretty much. I hate to hear of your pain and situation. It is a difficult road i know. Hard decisions to make, and never knowing till its to late if the right decision was made. I suffer alot of depression due to all this. I dont blame ya for being scared. I truely am, i know. Thxs so much for your support and look forward to getting to know you.

Beverly

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Welcome to the Group Beverly you have come to the right place. I have had 2 surgeries so far and from the looks of it I have more in my future. I had a microdiscectomy on my l-4 l-5 in october 2002 then 9 months later they did a caged fusion with a fake disc in the same area. I have massive scar tissue surrounding a vital nerve and they are saying something about my S-1 I have waited almost 2 years and have procrastinated as much as I can because the thought of going under AGAIN scares the you know what out of me. Not only that but I have 3 children and I have been much of a burden on them already and they are still young. I dont want them to take care of me I want to be able to take care of them. So I will wait this one out until I absolutely have to do it My doctor says that if I waited it would not complicate things so i just have to keep myself in the mind set that I will wait until I cant take it anymore. I suffered for 7 years before they ever figured out what was wrong with me to begin with so I think that recovering from the fusion is my first priority. they said my bone growth is slow so I am healing really slow. I am almost fully fused i guess from what he said to me in March when they took xrays but I am still waiting for the MRI. I hope you enjoy this group I look forward to getting to know you. I also dont want to discourage you to doing something that you might need to have right away I am jsut a big chicken and my doc knows this and I dont think he would allpw something to go if it was going to be dangerousbnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote: My nmae is Beverly. Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had this and have any advice on this issue?ThxsBeverly

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Sounds like we have the same things going on pretty much. I hate to hear of your pain and situation. It is a difficult road i know. Hard decisions to make, and never knowing till its to late if the right decision was made. I suffer alot of depression due to all this. I dont blame ya for being scared. I truely am, i know. Thxs so much for your support and look forward to getting to know you.

Beverly

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Welcome to the Group Beverly you have come to the right place. I have had 2 surgeries so far and from the looks of it I have more in my future. I had a microdiscectomy on my l-4 l-5 in october 2002 then 9 months later they did a caged fusion with a fake disc in the same area. I have massive scar tissue surrounding a vital nerve and they are saying something about my S-1 I have waited almost 2 years and have procrastinated as much as I can because the thought of going under AGAIN scares the you know what out of me. Not only that but I have 3 children and I have been much of a burden on them already and they are still young. I dont want them to take care of me I want to be able to take care of them. So I will wait this one out until I absolutely have to do it My doctor says that if I waited it would not complicate things so i just have to keep myself in the mind set that I will wait until I cant take it anymore. I suffered for 7 years before they ever figured out what was wrong with me to begin with so I think that recovering from the fusion is my first priority. they said my bone growth is slow so I am healing really slow. I am almost fully fused i guess from what he said to me in March when they took xrays but I am still waiting for the MRI. I hope you enjoy this group I look forward to getting to know you. I also dont want to discourage you to doing something that you might need to have right away I am jsut a big chicken and my doc knows this and I dont think he would allpw something to go if it was going to be dangerousbnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote: My nmae is Beverly. Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had this and have any advice on this issue?ThxsBeverly

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Sounds like we have the same things going on pretty much. I hate to hear of your pain and situation. It is a difficult road i know. Hard decisions to make, and never knowing till its to late if the right decision was made. I suffer alot of depression due to all this. I dont blame ya for being scared. I truely am, i know. Thxs so much for your support and look forward to getting to know you.

Beverly

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Welcome to the Group Beverly you have come to the right place. I have had 2 surgeries so far and from the looks of it I have more in my future. I had a microdiscectomy on my l-4 l-5 in october 2002 then 9 months later they did a caged fusion with a fake disc in the same area. I have massive scar tissue surrounding a vital nerve and they are saying something about my S-1 I have waited almost 2 years and have procrastinated as much as I can because the thought of going under AGAIN scares the you know what out of me. Not only that but I have 3 children and I have been much of a burden on them already and they are still young. I dont want them to take care of me I want to be able to take care of them. So I will wait this one out until I absolutely have to do it My doctor says that if I waited it would not complicate things so i just have to keep myself in the mind set that I will wait until I cant take it anymore. I suffered for 7 years before they ever figured out what was wrong with me to begin with so I think that recovering from the fusion is my first priority. they said my bone growth is slow so I am healing really slow. I am almost fully fused i guess from what he said to me in March when they took xrays but I am still waiting for the MRI. I hope you enjoy this group I look forward to getting to know you. I also dont want to discourage you to doing something that you might need to have right away I am jsut a big chicken and my doc knows this and I dont think he would allpw something to go if it was going to be dangerousbnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote: My nmae is Beverly. Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had this and have any advice on this issue?ThxsBeverly

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Nice meeting you. Yeah, i had that surgery done in 1984--i thought that was hard till had the fusion. That was terrible. Thxs for your support. Look forward to knowing everyone.

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Welcome to the group. I've only had one back surgery and it was a decompressive lumbar lamenectomy, no way at all as serious as yours but this is the right group to get your questions answered. > My nmae is Beverly. > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and > also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and > it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had > this and have any advice on this issue?> Thxs> Beverly

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its sounds like we have much more in common. I have suffered with depression for many many years I am doing better these day but for almost 15 years i sought much help through church counselors and phsyciatric. This was till they found out exactely what was wrong with me. in 1993 or 4 I had fallen at work and it wasnt until 2002 that a doctor was willing to follow through and figure out what was wrong with me but by then i had lost all feeling in my right leg. before then all the doctors and er's told me there was nothign wrong or i had pulled a muscle or it was all in my head that is where the phsyciatric counseling came into the picture. When they finally figired out what was wrong with me they told me it was too late to go after my job for restitution. there was a 5 year statute of limitations and i thin i missed it by a little less than a year. some have told me to talk to a lawyer anyway because sometimes that is not the case but I am in so much pain that I cant even

think about adding another thing to my list of duties as a mom wife and human being. I hope and pray you get better real soon

Sincerely Janine In Cali beverly nunn <bevnunn@...> wrote:

Janine

Sounds like we have the same things going on pretty much. I hate to hear of your pain and situation. It is a difficult road i know. Hard decisions to make, and never knowing till its to late if the right decision was made. I suffer alot of depression due to all this. I dont blame ya for being scared. I truely am, i know. Thxs so much for your support and look forward to getting to know you.

Beverly

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Welcome to the Group Beverly you have come to the right place. I have had 2 surgeries so far and from the looks of it I have more in my future. I had a microdiscectomy on my l-4 l-5 in october 2002 then 9 months later they did a caged fusion with a fake disc in the same area. I have massive scar tissue surrounding a vital nerve and they are saying something about my S-1 I have waited almost 2 years and have procrastinated as much as I can because the thought of going under AGAIN scares the you know what out of me. Not only that but I have 3 children and I have been much of a burden on them already and they are still young. I dont want them to take care of me I want to be able to take care of them. So I will wait this one out until I absolutely have to do it My doctor says that if I waited it would not complicate things so i just have to keep myself in the mind set that I will wait until I cant take it anymore. I suffered for 7 years before they ever

figured out what was wrong with me to begin with so I think that recovering from the fusion is my first priority. they said my bone growth is slow so I am healing really slow. I am almost fully fused i guess from what he said to me in March when they took xrays but I am still waiting for the MRI. I hope you enjoy this group I look forward to getting to know you. I also dont want to discourage you to doing something that you might need to have right away I am jsut a big chicken and my doc knows this and I dont think he would allpw something to go if it was going to be dangerousbnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote: My nmae is Beverly. Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had this and have any advice on this issue?ThxsBeverly

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Hi beverly,

My ex had 2 surgeries, the first a lamenctomy at L5-S1

6/99, then Fusion starting at L5-S1 and up for 3

disks, with the removal the the disk at L5-S1 and bone

graft. He did well for quite awhile, but unfortunately

did not follow through with any form of exercise and

put on alot of weight which caused much more pain.

I guess what I'm saying is you need to follow through

with after care if you do have this next surgery.

Until he started gaining weight he was getting better.

No extreme activity was asked of him. Just some simple

walking and swimming. No physical therapy. The only

other probelm he had physically, was he found out by

accident he could not dive into a pool. My now 20 year

old son and I were watching and as soon as he went off

that diving board we knew it would be a bellyflop. He

came up out of the water with a very red and sore

belly. LOL.

Lynda

--- bnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote:

> My nmae is Beverly.

> Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one

> resulted in a spinal

> fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion,

> my L5-s1 disk has

> collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants

> to do another

> fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going

> under anthesia and

> also putting the additional stress of another fusion

> on my spine. Ive

> held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my

> Spine DR August

> 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so

> scared to do it and

> it is really consuming my life worrying about all

> it. Has anyone had

> this and have any advice on this issue?

> Thxs

> Beverly

>

>

>

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Hi Beverly,

I have not had surgeries yet. I face surgery here in the next

little bit. I have my choice between single level fusion(tlif)

and the Artificial Disc. I want the ADR.

I understand the fear and worry. I have put it all off for a

long time too but I can't live like this anymore.

I wish I knew some easier ways to go about all this. I can offer

my support and encouragement. Keep me posted on how you are doing?

:-)

Katrina in Idaho

> My nmae is Beverly.

> Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal

> fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk

has

> collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another

> fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and

> also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine.

Ive

> held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August

> 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it

and

> it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had

> this and have any advice on this issue?

> Thxs

> Beverly

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Thxs for the info. Yeah, excersie is important. I do the treadmill and now swim some. Im hoping if i do it it will be worth the risks. Im just so scared to under the anethesia. I hope to get to know you better.

God bless

Beverly

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Hi beverly,My ex had 2 surgeries, the first a lamenctomy at L5-S16/99, then Fusion starting at L5-S1 and up for 3disks, with the removal the the disk at L5-S1 and bonegraft. He did well for quite awhile, but unfortunatelydid not follow through with any form of exercise andput on alot of weight which caused much more pain. I guess what I'm saying is you need to follow throughwith after care if you do have this next surgery.Until he started gaining weight he was getting better.No extreme activity was asked of him. Just some simplewalking and swimming. No physical therapy. The onlyother probelm he had physically, was he found out byaccident he could not dive into a pool. My now 20 yearold son and I were watching and as soon as he went offthat diving board we knew it would be a bellyflop. Hecame up out of the water with a very red and sorebelly. LOL.Lynda--- bnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote:> My nmae is Beverly. > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one> resulted in a spinal > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion,> my L5-s1 disk has > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants> to do another > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going> under anthesia and > also putting the additional stress of another fusion> on my spine. Ive > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my> Spine DR August > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so> scared to do it and > it is really consuming my life worrying about all> it. Has anyone had > this and have any advice on this issue?> Thxs> Beverly> > > __________________________________ Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover./stayintouch.html

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Hi Beverly,

I can understand about being scared to go under. I've

had numerous surgeries and not once have I had any

problem. I don't know if you've ever had surgery. Of

course there are always risks that should be

explained, but most of the time the worst is some

nausea and/or vommiting when you wake up. These days

alot of doctors put anti-nausea meds in your I.V. when

you're taken to recovery to avoid this.

While I'm not fond of surgery, a few times, the idea

of getting some really good sleep as a result of being

under and how much you sleep after, is appealing. I

don't sleep well.

Have an in-depth conversation about this with your doc

and ask to meet the anesthealogist (is that spelled

right?)not the day of surgery as is common, but before

you commit to surgery. Discuss all your fears and

concerns. I really think it would help alot

Hope this helps. Also have an in-depth talk with the

surgeon, again about your fears, concerns and what

could possibly go wrong. Ask any and all questions you

have. If either get inpatient with you, get another

opinion/doc. You have a right to answers to ALL your

questions.

Take Care,

Lynda

--- beverly nunn <bevnunn@...> wrote:

> Lynda

> Thxs for the info. Yeah, excersie is important. I do

> the treadmill and now

> swim some. Im hoping if i do it it will be worth the

> risks. Im just so

> scared to under the anethesia. I hope to get to

> know you better.

>

> God bless

> Beverly

>

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> Beverly

>

> Hi beverly,

> My ex had 2 surgeries, the first a lamenctomy at

> L5-S1

> 6/99, then Fusion starting at L5-S1 and up for 3

> disks, with the removal the the disk at L5-S1 and

> bone

> graft. He did well for quite awhile, but

> unfortunately

> did not follow through with any form of exercise and

> put on alot of weight which caused much more pain.

> I guess what I'm saying is you need to follow

> through

> with after care if you do have this next surgery.

> Until he started gaining weight he was getting

> better.

> No extreme activity was asked of him. Just some

> simple

> walking and swimming. No physical therapy. The only

> other probelm he had physically, was he found out by

> accident he could not dive into a pool. My now 20

> year

> old son and I were watching and as soon as he went

> off

> that diving board we knew it would be a bellyflop.

> He

> came up out of the water with a very red and sore

> belly. LOL.

> Lynda

>

> --- bnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote:

>

> > My nmae is Beverly.

> > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one

> > resulted in a spinal

> > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this

> fusion,

> > my L5-s1 disk has

> > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr

> wants

> > to do another

> > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going

> > under anthesia and

> > also putting the additional stress of another

> fusion

> > on my spine. Ive

> > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see

> my

> > Spine DR August

> > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so

> > scared to do it and

> > it is really consuming my life worrying about all

> > it. Has anyone had

> > this and have any advice on this issue?

> > Thxs

> > Beverly

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Im sorry to hear all this. I so sorry it took that long for them to figure this out. Workcomp can be crazy. When i got injured at work they sent me to theyre dr. and all he said was its muscle spasm's and gave me med. and sent me right back to work. 3 months later i chose to seek my own Dr. and found out i messed up a disk that resulted in the fusion. It then collapsed my L5-s1 disk due to stress on the spine from the fusion--i filed workcomp stuff myself with Depatment of workcomp claims---went to court---they said it was preexisting from my 1st disectomy on that area and i was past the statue of limitations as well---i proved(without an attorny) that i had no problem with this disk untill after the fusion--so this was a new injury. The judge agreed in my favor --this was a new work injury and statue of limitations did not apply. So, they are responsible for the second disk surgery, all bills and med's for life.

Its a long painful road girl, i know. It makes you depressed worrying all the time about it all. I miss working with my patients . I did nursing for 19 years. Hang in there girl. Im here for you. I went to counseling for 3 years then stopped. I take depression med and thats all now. I have hard days like the past three just feeling like crying.

Thxs for your support.

God bless

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Welcome to the Group Beverly you have come to the right place. I have had 2 surgeries so far and from the looks of it I have more in my future. I had a microdiscectomy on my l-4 l-5 in october 2002 then 9 months later they did a caged fusion with a fake disc in the same area. I have massive scar tissue surrounding a vital nerve and they are saying something about my S-1 I have waited almost 2 years and have procrastinated as much as I can because the thought of going under AGAIN scares the you know what out of me. Not only that but I have 3 children and I have been much of a burden on them already and they are still young. I dont want them to take care of me I want to be able to take care of them. So I will wait this one out until I absolutely have to do it My doctor says that if I waited it would not complicate things so i just have to keep myself in the mind set that I will wait until I cant take it anymore. I suffered for 7 years before they ever figured out what was wrong with me to begin with so I think that recovering from the fusion is my first priority. they said my bone growth is slow so I am healing really slow. I am almost fully fused i guess from what he said to me in March when they took xrays but I am still waiting for the MRI. I hope you enjoy this group I look forward to getting to know you. I also dont want to discourage you to doing something that you might need to have right away I am jsut a big chicken and my doc knows this and I dont think he would allpw something to go if it was going to be dangerousbnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote: My nmae is Beverly. Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had this and have any advice on this issue?ThxsBeverly

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Thxs for your support. Im sorry you are suffering so. We discussed the Adr but he feels im not a good candidate due to already having a fusion above this area needing surgery. So, ill be doing the fusion thing again if i agree in August. Yes, all of it is scarey. Makes for a tough road each day emotionally. Im getting to point im tired of worrying about what to do. Im here for you. Look forward to getting to know you better.

Beverly

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Hi Beverly,I have not had surgeries yet. I face surgery here in the next little bit. I have my choice between single level fusion(tlif)and the Artificial Disc. I want the ADR.I understand the fear and worry. I have put it all off for a long time too but I can't live like this anymore. I wish I knew some easier ways to go about all this. I can offer my support and encouragement. Keep me posted on how you are doing? :-)Katrina in Idaho> My nmae is Beverly. > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and > also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and > it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had > this and have any advice on this issue?> Thxs> Beverly

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Thank you. Yes, its scarey. I dont sleep well either. Takes me 1-3 hrs just to go to sleep then the waking up is annoying. Im going to pin Dr. down August 3rd on all issues. It concerns me because i have copd. Though i live in pain--im not ready to die just yet :). Thxs so much for your support.

God bless

Beverly

-- Re: Im New---From> Beverly> > Hi beverly,> My ex had 2 surgeries, the first a lamenctomy at> L5-S1> 6/99, then Fusion starting at L5-S1 and up for 3> disks, with the removal the the disk at L5-S1 and> bone> graft. He did well for quite awhile, but> unfortunately> did not follow through with any form of exercise and> put on alot of weight which caused much more pain. > I guess what I'm saying is you need to follow> through> with after care if you do have this next surgery.> Until he started gaining weight he was getting> better.> No extreme activity was asked of him. Just some> simple> walking and swimming. No physical therapy. The only> other probelm he had physically, was he found out by> accident he could not dive into a pool. My now 20> year> old son and I were watching and as soon as he went> off> that diving board we knew it would be a bellyflop.> He> came up out of the water with a very red and sore> belly. LOL.> Lynda> > --- bnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote:> > > My nmae is Beverly. > > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one> > resulted in a spinal > > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this> fusion,> > my L5-s1 disk has > > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr> wants> > to do another > > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going> > under anthesia and > > also putting the additional stress of another> fusion> > on my spine. Ive > > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see> my> > Spine DR August > > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so> > scared to do it and > > it is really consuming my life worrying about all> > it. Has anyone had > > this and have any advice on this issue?> > Thxs> > Beverly> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Discover > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and> more. Check it out! > http://discover./stayintouch.html> > > >

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Sleep seems to be next to nothing for the members of this group. I am up at LEAST 4 times a night. I am luck if I can sleep 2 hours in a row. It gets to be soooo irritating sometimes. The pain and stiffness is the worst during the night. Especially when you have to pee real bad and you cant get up. I just pray I make it every time so far my prayers have been answered. Tonight I pray for everyone to get a good nights rest.

Sincerely Janine in Cali beverly nunn <bevnunn@...> wrote:

lYNDA

Thank you. Yes, its scarey. I dont sleep well either. Takes me 1-3 hrs just to go to sleep then the waking up is annoying. Im going to pin Dr. down August 3rd on all issues. It concerns me because i have copd. Though i live in pain--im not ready to die just yet :). Thxs so much for your support.

God bless

Beverly

-- Re: Im New---From> Beverly> > Hi beverly,> My ex had 2 surgeries, the first a lamenctomy at> L5-S1> 6/99, then

Fusion starting at L5-S1 and up for 3> disks, with the removal the the disk at L5-S1 and> bone> graft. He did well for quite awhile, but> unfortunately> did not follow through with any form of exercise and> put on alot of weight which caused much more pain. > I guess what I'm saying is you need to follow> through> with after care if you do have this next surgery.> Until he started gaining weight he was getting> better.> No extreme activity was asked of him. Just some> simple> walking and swimming. No physical therapy. The only> other probelm he had physically, was he found out by> accident he could not dive into a pool. My now 20> year> old son and I were watching and as soon as he went> off> that diving board we knew it would be a bellyflop.> He> came up out of the water with a very red and sore> belly. LOL.>

Lynda> > --- bnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote:> > > My nmae is Beverly. > > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one> > resulted in a spinal > > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this> fusion,> > my L5-s1 disk has > > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr> wants> > to do another > > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going> > under anthesia and > > also putting the additional stress of another> fusion> > on my spine. Ive > > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see> my> > Spine DR August > > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so> > scared to do it and > > it is really consuming my life worrying about all> > it. Has anyone had > > this and have any advice on this issue?> > Thxs> >

Beverly> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Discover > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and> more. Check it out! > http://discover./stayintouch.html> > > >

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I was unaware that a fusion and a fake disc were two seperate options. My doctor gave me a fake disc and a fusion on my L-4 L-5 I thought it was standard??? beverly nunn <bevnunn@...> wrote:

Katrina

Thxs for your support. Im sorry you are suffering so. We discussed the Adr but he feels im not a good candidate due to already having a fusion above this area needing surgery. So, ill be doing the fusion thing again if i agree in August. Yes, all of it is scarey. Makes for a tough road each day emotionally. Im getting to point im tired of worrying about what to do. Im here for you. Look forward to getting to know you better.

Beverly

-- Re: Im New---From Beverly

Hi Beverly,I have not had surgeries yet. I face surgery here in the next little bit. I have my choice between single level fusion(tlif)and the Artificial Disc. I want the ADR.I understand the fear and worry. I have put it all off for a long time too but I can't live like this anymore. I wish I knew some easier ways to go about all this. I can offer my support and encouragement. Keep me posted on how you are doing? :-)Katrina in Idaho> My nmae is Beverly. > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and > also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my

spine. Ive > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and > it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had > this and have any advice on this issue?> Thxs> Beverly

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Thanks SOOOOOO Much Beverly I really appreciate knowing that you are there for me as I appreciate everyone else in this group. I am no longer taking any anti depressants they determined that with all the pain meds and all the anti depressants ocd and panic and anxiety meds they had me on that it was causing me more depression than if I were not on them. So I am now only taking the pain anti inflamitories and nerve meds. so far so good I have no longer experienced suicidal tendancies and I am happy for the most part there are days that getting outside is not an option and I tend to notice that I close all the blinds on those days My husband actually made a comment recently that he noticed I was getting sad and I do have to say for the first time ever he took some initiative to get me out of the house even though it was in the front yard he got me out there becasue I was so intrigued that he even noticed that there was something not right I just had to oblidge his offer to go and

help him wash the truck. I had control of the hose as he scrubbed so he was a little nervous but I was a good girl LOL

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Janine

Im sorry to hear all this. I so sorry it took that long for them to figure this out. Workcomp can be crazy. When i got injured at work they sent me to theyre dr. and all he said was its muscle spasm's and gave me med. and sent me right back to work. 3 months later i chose to seek my own Dr. and found out i messed up a disk that resulted in the fusion. It then collapsed my L5-s1 disk due to stress on the spine from the fusion--i filed workcomp stuff myself with Depatment of workcomp claims---went to court---they said it was preexisting from my 1st disectomy on that area and i was past the statue of limitations as well---i proved(without an attorny) that i had no problem with this disk untill after the fusion--so this was a new injury. The judge agreed in my favor --this was a new work injury and statue of limitations did not apply. So, they are responsible for the second disk surgery, all bills and med's for life.

Its a long painful road girl, i know. It makes you depressed worrying all the time about it all. I miss working with my patients . I did nursing for 19 years. Hang in there girl. Im here for you. I went to counseling for 3 years then stopped. I take depression med and thats all now. I have hard days like the past three just feeling like crying.

Thxs for your support.

God bless

Beverly

-- Re: Im New---From Beverly

Welcome to the Group Beverly you have come to the right place. I have had 2 surgeries so far and from the looks of it I have more in my future. I had a microdiscectomy on my l-4 l-5 in october 2002 then 9 months later they did a caged fusion with a fake disc in the same area. I have massive scar tissue surrounding a vital nerve and they are saying something about my S-1 I have waited almost 2 years and have procrastinated as much as I can because the thought of going under AGAIN scares the you know what out of me. Not only that but I have 3 children and I have been much of a burden on them already and they are still young. I dont want them to take care of me I want to be able to take care of them. So I will wait this one out until I absolutely have to do it My doctor says that if I waited it would not complicate things so i just have to keep myself in the mind set that I will wait until I cant take it anymore. I suffered for 7 years before they ever

figured out what was wrong with me to begin with so I think that recovering from the fusion is my first priority. they said my bone growth is slow so I am healing really slow. I am almost fully fused i guess from what he said to me in March when they took xrays but I am still waiting for the MRI. I hope you enjoy this group I look forward to getting to know you. I also dont want to discourage you to doing something that you might need to have right away I am jsut a big chicken and my doc knows this and I dont think he would allpw something to go if it was going to be dangerousbnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote: My nmae is Beverly. Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had this and have any advice on this issue?ThxsBeverly

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Hi,

I still have alot of problems falling asleep and for

the most part sleep at least 5 hours. The problem is

sometimes I don't fall asleep until 6a.m. I realized

several years ago PART of the problem (I've ALWAYS had

problems falling asleep, even as a child)since the

chronic pain started. I know when I wake up I am going

to be in extreme pain. At least while I'm awake I can

take my pain meds (NO they do not make me drowsy). If

I get lucky and sleep more than 5 hours, I am

extremely grateful for the rest, but then the pain is

even more extreme when I wake up and worry over how

long it will take to get the pain under control.

I know, I now know part of my sleeping difficulty and

there is nothing I can do about it, yet night after

night I sit up watching t.v. Not quite rational

thinking, but pain can do that. (Yes I'm on sleeping

pills too).

Take care all,

Lynda

--- Janine Newman <jnewmans1@...> wrote:

> Sleep seems to be next to nothing for the members of

> this group. I am up at LEAST 4 times a night. I am

> luck if I can sleep 2 hours in a row. It gets to be

> soooo irritating sometimes. The pain and stiffness

> is the worst during the night. Especially when you

> have to pee real bad and you cant get up. I just

> pray I make it every time so far my prayers have

> been answered. Tonight I pray for everyone to get a

> good nights rest.

> Sincerely Janine in Cali

>

> beverly nunn <bevnunn@...> wrote:

> lYNDA

> Thank you. Yes, its scarey. I dont sleep well

> either. Takes me 1-3 hrs just to go to sleep then

> the waking up is annoying. Im going to pin Dr. down

> August 3rd on all issues. It concerns me because i

> have copd. Though i live in pain--im not ready to

> die just yet :). Thxs so much for your support.

> God bless

> Beverly

>

> -- Re: Im New---From

> > Beverly

> >

> > Hi beverly,

> > My ex had 2 surgeries, the first a lamenctomy at

> > L5-S1

> > 6/99, then Fusion starting at L5-S1 and up for 3

> > disks, with the removal the the disk at L5-S1 and

> > bone

> > graft. He did well for quite awhile, but

> > unfortunately

> > did not follow through with any form of exercise

> and

> > put on alot of weight which caused much more pain.

>

> > I guess what I'm saying is you need to follow

> > through

> > with after care if you do have this next surgery.

> > Until he started gaining weight he was getting

> > better.

> > No extreme activity was asked of him. Just some

> > simple

> > walking and swimming. No physical therapy. The

> only

> > other probelm he had physically, was he found out

> by

> > accident he could not dive into a pool. My now 20

> > year

> > old son and I were watching and as soon as he went

> > off

> > that diving board we knew it would be a bellyflop.

> > He

> > came up out of the water with a very red and sore

> > belly. LOL.

> > Lynda

> >

> > --- bnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote:

> >

> > > My nmae is Beverly.

> > > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one

> > > resulted in a spinal

> > > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this

> > fusion,

> > > my L5-s1 disk has

> > > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr

> > wants

> > > to do another

> > > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going

> > > under anthesia and

> > > also putting the additional stress of another

> > fusion

> > > on my spine. Ive

> > > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I

> see

> > my

> > > Spine DR August

> > > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im

> so

> > > scared to do it and

> > > it is really consuming my life worrying about

> all

> > > it. Has anyone had

> > > this and have any advice on this issue?

> > > Thxs

> > > Beverly

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________

> > Discover

> > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and

> > more. Check it out!

> > http://discover./stayintouch.html

> >

> >

> >

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Hmm, hadnt heard of it done like that. As far as the adr it just came out here--fusion's were all they did before that. This was to replace the fusion --not having to permanently lock two disk together and the adr would give you more movement.

Beverly

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Hi Beverly,I have not had surgeries yet. I face surgery here in the next little bit. I have my choice between single level fusion(tlif)and the Artificial Disc. I want the ADR.I understand the fear and worry. I have put it all off for a long time too but I can't live like this anymore. I wish I knew some easier ways to go about all this. I can offer my support and encouragement. Keep me posted on how you are doing? :-)Katrina in Idaho> My nmae is Beverly. > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and > also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and > it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had > this and have any advice on this issue?> Thxs> Beverly

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Good going girl. Yeah--getting outside when weather is good is very important. Helps the mood. Go out and just spend that time with your hubby no matter how little time it is---he needs that with you as well as you need it. And if ya wanna be a little silly with the water hose--hey---go ahead and have fun.

God bless

Beverly

-- Re: Im New---From Beverly

Welcome to the Group Beverly you have come to the right place. I have had 2 surgeries so far and from the looks of it I have more in my future. I had a microdiscectomy on my l-4 l-5 in october 2002 then 9 months later they did a caged fusion with a fake disc in the same area. I have massive scar tissue surrounding a vital nerve and they are saying something about my S-1 I have waited almost 2 years and have procrastinated as much as I can because the thought of going under AGAIN scares the you know what out of me. Not only that but I have 3 children and I have been much of a burden on them already and they are still young. I dont want them to take care of me I want to be able to take care of them. So I will wait this one out until I absolutely have to do it My doctor says that if I waited it would not complicate things so i just have to keep myself in the mind set that I will wait until I cant take it anymore. I suffered for 7 years before they ever figured out what was wrong with me to begin with so I think that recovering from the fusion is my first priority. they said my bone growth is slow so I am healing really slow. I am almost fully fused i guess from what he said to me in March when they took xrays but I am still waiting for the MRI. I hope you enjoy this group I look forward to getting to know you. I also dont want to discourage you to doing something that you might need to have right away I am jsut a big chicken and my doc knows this and I dont think he would allpw something to go if it was going to be dangerousbnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote: My nmae is Beverly. Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had this and have any advice on this issue?ThxsBeverly

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Hello Beverly, why did the first fusion fail?? Did they not put a cage

and rods in there to hold it or did the disc fall apart? Sorry I've

never heard of one failing like that I am guessing somehow the dr did

something wrong the first time. But if you've been suffering for 2 yrs

I think I'd go ahead and get it done and fixed right this time.

Just ask the dr lots of questions and make sure he is the one you

want if he is truly a good surgeon he will not mind you asking him

about the surgery and making sure you feel at ease about it. Although

I know you are scared I sure wouldn't want to continue to live in pain

if there was some way to fix it, I'd give it a shot. Best of luck let

us know how it turns out Sharon Group Owner

..

> My nmae is Beverly.

> Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal

> fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk

has

> collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another

> fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and

> also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine.

Ive

> held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August

> 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it

and

> it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had

> this and have any advice on this issue?

> Thxs

> Beverly

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I have heard of a fusion not taking. My doctor says that sometimes the bone wont grow and they have to go in and try I think it is called bone graphs and cadavers. They were really concerned with me because I am a somker and said that the bone growth is much slower they gave me this bone stimulator its like a george jetson jet pack and I was to wear it for 2 hours a day for the first year. my bone has grown just slowly the cadaver bone took just fine and they say sometimes when they use cadavers they dont take and the body regects it.

Sincerley Janine In Calidarkstarzz1019 <darkstarzz1019@...> wrote:

Hello Beverly, why did the first fusion fail?? Did they not put a cage and rods in there to hold it or did the disc fall apart? Sorry I've never heard of one failing like that I am guessing somehow the dr did something wrong the first time. But if you've been suffering for 2 yrs I think I'd go ahead and get it done and fixed right this time. Just ask the dr lots of questions and make sure he is the one you want if he is truly a good surgeon he will not mind you asking him about the surgery and making sure you feel at ease about it. Although I know you are scared I sure wouldn't want to continue to live in pain if there was some way to fix it, I'd give it a shot. Best of luck let us know how it turns out Sharon Group Owner. > My nmae is

Beverly. > Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal > fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has > collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another > fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and > also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive > held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August > 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and > it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had > this and have any advice on this issue?> Thxs> Beverly

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I was very tempted but he had to go to work so I promised I wouldnt get him wet. It wouldve been very funny though but he is the pay back kinda guy and I wasnt ready for what he wouldve done LOL.

Sincerely Janine In Calibeverly nunn <bevnunn@...> wrote:

Janine

Good going girl. Yeah--getting outside when weather is good is very important. Helps the mood. Go out and just spend that time with your hubby no matter how little time it is---he needs that with you as well as you need it. And if ya wanna be a little silly with the water hose--hey---go ahead and have fun.

God bless

Beverly

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Welcome to the Group Beverly you have come to the right place. I have had 2 surgeries so far and from the looks of it I have more in my future. I had a microdiscectomy on my l-4 l-5 in october 2002 then 9 months later they did a caged fusion with a fake disc in the same area. I have massive scar tissue surrounding a vital nerve and they are saying something about my S-1 I have waited almost 2 years and have procrastinated as much as I can because the thought of going under AGAIN scares the you know what out of me. Not only that but I have 3 children and I have been much of a burden on them already and they are still young. I dont want them to take care of me I want to be able to take care of them. So I will wait this one out until I absolutely have to do it My doctor says that if I waited it would not complicate things so i just have to keep myself in the mind set that I will wait until I cant take it anymore. I suffered for 7 years before they ever

figured out what was wrong with me to begin with so I think that recovering from the fusion is my first priority. they said my bone growth is slow so I am healing really slow. I am almost fully fused i guess from what he said to me in March when they took xrays but I am still waiting for the MRI. I hope you enjoy this group I look forward to getting to know you. I also dont want to discourage you to doing something that you might need to have right away I am jsut a big chicken and my doc knows this and I dont think he would allpw something to go if it was going to be dangerousbnnn2005 <bevnunn@...> wrote: My nmae is Beverly. Ive had 3 back surgeries so far. The 2nd one resulted in a spinal fusion from a work injury i had. Since this fusion, my L5-s1 disk has collapsed and causing a great deal of pain. Dr wants to do another fusion at this level. Im totally scared of going under anthesia and also putting the additional stress of another fusion on my spine. Ive held this surgery off for over 2 years now. I see my Spine DR August 3rd to maybe give the go ahead on this--but im so scared to do it and it is really consuming my life worrying about all it. Has anyone had this and have any advice on this issue?ThxsBeverly

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