Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 You & your family are in our prayers! Blessings, Marisol. t t t Isaiah 42:3 -- back in the hospital my wife rae is back in the hospital. she was admitted yesterday afternoon for more seizures, muscle spasms and her thyroid is messed up she will be having testing done today at a hospital that so far has shown much promise. we had to drive about forty minutes away to chesapeak va, but they believe us and seem to be really trying to help her. hopefully she will see that; she can't take hospitals much anymore. we are also working on a law suit for a hospital visit two days ago, where she was allowed to seize herself right out of bed and lost bladder control. the nurses told her to stop faking when she came to and made her get back in bed herself. that was just one of many but we shall see. thank you all for your help love and support. i will be in and out for the next few days and can be reached by cell phone. thank you guys for everything. please keep us in your prayers. rob No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or understands. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Rob, It is just heartbreaking the trouble your family is having. Your family is in my prayers always. I hope Rae is going to be ok. Please keep us posted if you can. Take care, Katrina :-) > > my wife rae is back in the hospital. she was admitted yesterday afternoon > for more seizures, muscle spasms and her thyroid is messed up she will be > having testing done today at a hospital that so far has shown much promise. > we had to drive about forty minutes away to chesapeak va, but they believe > us and seem to be really trying to help her. hopefully she will see that; > she can't take hospitals much anymore. we are also working on a law suit > for a hospital visit two days ago, where she was allowed to seize herself > right out of bed and lost bladder control. the nurses told her to stop > faking when she came to and made her get back in bed herself. that was just > one of many but we shall see. thank you all for your help love and support. > i will be in and out for the next few days and can be reached by cell > phone. thank you guys for everything. please keep us in your prayers. > > rob > > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or > understands. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 -Hi Rob I am so sorry to hear she isn't doing well I hope she gets better soon. I can't believe they treated her like that, I'd sue the nurses and the hospital geez what is health care coming too these day I will keep her and your family in my prayers and I hope your pain hasn;t been too horrible with all of this going on. Best wishes for all of you. Sharon Group Owner -- In neck pain , " Gehle " <robgehle@...> wrote: > > > my wife rae is back in the hospital. she was admitted yesterday afternoon > for more seizures, muscle spasms and her thyroid is messed up she will be > having testing done today at a hospital that so far has shown much promise. > we had to drive about forty minutes away to chesapeak va, but they believe > us and seem to be really trying to help her. hopefully she will see that; > she can't take hospitals much anymore. we are also working on a law suit > for a hospital visit two days ago, where she was allowed to seize herself > right out of bed and lost bladder control. the nurses told her to stop > faking when she came to and made her get back in bed herself. that was just > one of many but we shall see. thank you all for your help love and support. > i will be in and out for the next few days and can be reached by cell > phone. thank you guys for everything. please keep us in your prayers. > > rob > > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or > understands. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 so sorry to hear your wife is back in the hospital. I surely hope that they figure out what is going on so that she can start on the treatment that she needs. Hugs and Prayers, Babs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 thank you for you prayers. rob No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or understands. >From: " Sam & Marisol " <guijazrose@...> >Reply-neck pain ><neck pain > >Subject: Re: back in the hospital >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:17:38 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) > > You & your family are in our prayers! > >Blessings, >Marisol. >t t t >Isaiah 42:3 > >-- back in the hospital > >my wife rae is back in the hospital. she was admitted yesterday afternoon >for more seizures, muscle spasms and her thyroid is messed up she will be >having testing done today at a hospital that so far has shown much promise. >we had to drive about forty minutes away to chesapeak va, but they believe >us and seem to be really trying to help her. hopefully she will see that; >she can't take hospitals much anymore. we are also working on a law suit >for a hospital visit two days ago, where she was allowed to seize herself >right out of bed and lost bladder control. the nurses told her to stop >faking when she came to and made her get back in bed herself. that was >just >one of many but we shall see. thank you all for your help love and >support. > i will be in and out for the next few days and can be reached by cell >phone. thank you guys for everything. please keep us in your prayers. > >rob > >No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares >or >understands. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! >http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 thank you katrina, she got out this evening, and though they ran numrous tests they say nothing is wrong with her. that it must be psychological. she is sleeping right now after a rough night. she was in pain, and the nurse would not page the doctor a second time because she was scared he would be angry with her at 3a when my wife still could not sleep because of back pain. she kept asking for a doctor to physically show up and examine her (so they could see her back was locked up). his shift ended at 8a. i showed up at 830a, repeatidly asked for a doctor; he showed up at noon. the hospital was great up till the very end. when nothing came back positive the doctor (which had never seen her yet) looked over us and im not kidding, he profiled us. My tattoos my shaved head, her weight, and all but told us she was seeking meds, and that the pain she was having at that moment and through the night could not have come from all of the tests and being stressed, and that he wasn't going to control it. for the first time in my life i came dangerously close to using my training as a grunt in the marine corps on a civilian. she went home with I'M NAMING NAMES; DON'T GET MAD clonazepam .5mg qty: 90 - for panic disorder and for seizures (that they too disbelieve) side note: her father and sister both became epileptic (?) in their twenties. her (sister's) brain wave scan was abnormal, but her father's wasn't. both are on meds to prevent them from coming back still to this day. oxycodone 5/325 qty: 6 - for pain (it might as well be tylenol) citalopram 20 mg qty: 60 - for depression/anxiety baclofen 10mg qty: 90 - for muscle spasms (my pain management doc told me earlier that these are useless) i truly hope that these meds in combination with one another help her. i can't see how everything that's happened to her physically is just a result of stress. i am not saying that they are wrong, and i am not complaining about her care or treatment (except for that doctor, who doesn't know us from adam, and judged us as a couple) i'm a friggin veteran he doesn't " know " us, whatever.... i just hope/pray that another of her " attacks " or whatever doesn't happen again. if anyone that has been keeping up with all of this knows of anything else it might be or has any kind of advice it would be greatly appreciated. i did not exagerate to them or to you, and i am still very worried about my wife's health. we will be following up with a psychiatrist, and a nerosurgeon. i didn't want her to have some sort of disease or anything, but i wished they had found something - if that makes sense without seeming cruel. thank you everyone who posted and who prayed (i haven't read them all yet) your caring responses helped me get through these past couple of weeks. hopefully i will have nothing more to say on the subject and this will be the end of it; i just wish it felt as if it were over, but it doesn't. take care, and thank you again katrina rob No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or understands. >From: " Katrina " <sweettoobeme@...> >Reply-neck pain >neck pain >Subject: Re: back in the hospital >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:28:40 -0000 > >Rob, It is just heartbreaking the trouble your family is having. >Your family is in my prayers always. I hope Rae is going to be ok. >Please keep us posted if you can. Take care, Katrina :-) > > > > my wife rae is back in the hospital. she was admitted yesterday >afternoon > > for more seizures, muscle spasms and her thyroid is messed up she >will be > > having testing done today at a hospital that so far has shown much >promise. > > we had to drive about forty minutes away to chesapeak va, but they >believe > > us and seem to be really trying to help her. hopefully she will >see that; > > she can't take hospitals much anymore. we are also working on a >law suit > > for a hospital visit two days ago, where she was allowed to seize >herself > > right out of bed and lost bladder control. the nurses told her to >stop > > faking when she came to and made her get back in bed herself. that >was just > > one of many but we shall see. thank you all for your help love and >support. > > i will be in and out for the next few days and can be reached by >cell > > phone. thank you guys for everything. please keep us in your >prayers. > > > > rob > > > > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one >cares or > > understands. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 my wife later said that when she became responsive, the nurse told her she couldnt be seizing because they had given her meds. and told her to stop faking, and when my wife couldn't stand on her own, dragged her up and let her fall into the bed; the same one still soiled from her losing control of her bladder. crazy, i have trouble understanding this. you cant even make this @# & % up. what i meant to say was thank you again for your concern. rob No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or understands. >From: " darkstarzz1019 " <darkstarzz1019@...> >Reply-neck pain >neck pain >Subject: Re: back in the hospital >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:43:50 -0000 > >-Hi Rob I am so sorry to hear she isn't doing well I hope she gets >better soon. I can't believe they treated her like that, I'd sue the >nurses and the hospital geez what is health care coming too these >day I will keep her and your family in my prayers and I hope your >pain hasn;t been too horrible with all of this going on. Best wishes >for all of you. Sharon Group Owner > >-- In neck pain , " Gehle " ><robgehle@...> wrote: > > > > > > my wife rae is back in the hospital. she was admitted yesterday >afternoon > > for more seizures, muscle spasms and her thyroid is messed up she >will be > > having testing done today at a hospital that so far has shown much >promise. > > we had to drive about forty minutes away to chesapeak va, but they >believe > > us and seem to be really trying to help her. hopefully she will >see that; > > she can't take hospitals much anymore. we are also working on a >law suit > > for a hospital visit two days ago, where she was allowed to seize >herself > > right out of bed and lost bladder control. the nurses told her to >stop > > faking when she came to and made her get back in bed herself. >that was just > > one of many but we shall see. thank you all for your help love >and support. > > i will be in and out for the next few days and can be reached by >cell > > phone. thank you guys for everything. please keep us in your >prayers. > > > > rob > > > > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no >one cares or > > understands. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - >it's FREE! > > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 thank you babs, shes home and hopefully the meds they gave her will help. rob No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or understands. >From: " Babs " <barbnal@...> >Reply-neck pain ><neck pain > >Subject: Re: back in the hospital >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:47:44 -0400 > > so sorry to hear your wife is back in the hospital. I surely hope >that they figure out what is going on so that she can start on the >treatment that she needs. >Hugs and Prayers, Babs _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Rob it is good to hear that your wife got to come home. Hugs and Prayers, Babs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2006 Report Share Posted April 29, 2006 Rob it is good to hear that your wife got to come home. Hugs and Prayers, Babs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I am so sorry to hear this Rob! That Doc had NO right. > > thank you katrina, > > she got out this evening, and though they ran numrous tests they say nothing > is wrong with her. that it must be psychological. she is sleeping right > now after a rough night. she was in pain, and the nurse would not page the > doctor a second time because she was scared he would be angry with her at 3a > when my wife still could not sleep because of back pain. she kept asking > for a doctor to physically show up and examine her (so they could see her > back was locked up). his shift ended at 8a. i showed up at 830a, > repeatidly asked for a doctor; he showed up at noon. the hospital was great > up till the very end. when nothing came back positive the doctor (which had > never seen her yet) looked over us and im not kidding, he profiled us. My > tattoos my shaved head, her weight, and all but told us she was seeking > meds, and that the pain she was having at that moment and through the night > could not have come from all of the tests and being stressed, and that he > wasn't going to control it. for the first time in my life i came > dangerously close to using my training as a grunt in the marine corps on a > civilian. > > she went home with > > I'M NAMING NAMES; DON'T GET MAD > > clonazepam .5mg qty: 90 - for panic disorder and for seizures (that they > too disbelieve) > > side note: her father and sister both became epileptic (?) in their > twenties. her (sister's) brain wave scan was abnormal, but her father's > wasn't. both are on meds to prevent them from coming back still to this > day. > > oxycodone 5/325 qty: 6 - for pain (it might as well be tylenol) > > citalopram 20 mg qty: 60 - for depression/anxiety > > baclofen 10mg qty: 90 - for muscle spasms (my pain management doc told me > earlier that these are useless) > > i truly hope that these meds in combination with one another help her. i > can't see how everything that's happened to her physically is just a result > of stress. i am not saying that they are wrong, and i am not complaining > about her care or treatment (except for that doctor, who doesn't know us > from adam, and judged us as a couple) i'm a friggin veteran he doesn't > " know " us, whatever.... > > i just hope/pray that another of her " attacks " or whatever doesn't happen > again. if anyone that has been keeping up with all of this knows of > anything else it might be or has any kind of advice it would be greatly > appreciated. i did not exagerate to them or to you, and i am still very > worried about my wife's health. we will be following up with a > psychiatrist, and a nerosurgeon. i didn't want her to have some sort of > disease or anything, but i wished they had found something - if that makes > sense without seeming cruel. > > thank you everyone who posted and who prayed (i haven't read them all yet) > your caring responses helped me get through these past couple of weeks. > hopefully i will have nothing more to say on the subject and this will be > the end of it; i just wish it felt as if it were over, but it doesn't. > > take care, and thank you again katrina > > rob > > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or > understands. > > > >From: " Katrina " <sweettoobeme@...> > >Reply-neck pain > >neck pain > >Subject: Re: back in the hospital > >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:28:40 -0000 > > > >Rob, It is just heartbreaking the trouble your family is having. > >Your family is in my prayers always. I hope Rae is going to be ok. > >Please keep us posted if you can. Take care, Katrina :-) > > > > > > my wife rae is back in the hospital. she was admitted yesterday > >afternoon > > > for more seizures, muscle spasms and her thyroid is messed up she > >will be > > > having testing done today at a hospital that so far has shown much > >promise. > > > we had to drive about forty minutes away to chesapeak va, but they > >believe > > > us and seem to be really trying to help her. hopefully she will > >see that; > > > she can't take hospitals much anymore. we are also working on a > >law suit > > > for a hospital visit two days ago, where she was allowed to seize > >herself > > > right out of bed and lost bladder control. the nurses told her to > >stop > > > faking when she came to and made her get back in bed herself. that > >was just > > > one of many but we shall see. thank you all for your help love and > >support. > > > i will be in and out for the next few days and can be reached by > >cell > > > phone. thank you guys for everything. please keep us in your > >prayers. > > > > > > rob > > > > > > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one > >cares or > > > understands. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I am so sorry to hear this Rob! That Doc had NO right. > > thank you katrina, > > she got out this evening, and though they ran numrous tests they say nothing > is wrong with her. that it must be psychological. she is sleeping right > now after a rough night. she was in pain, and the nurse would not page the > doctor a second time because she was scared he would be angry with her at 3a > when my wife still could not sleep because of back pain. she kept asking > for a doctor to physically show up and examine her (so they could see her > back was locked up). his shift ended at 8a. i showed up at 830a, > repeatidly asked for a doctor; he showed up at noon. the hospital was great > up till the very end. when nothing came back positive the doctor (which had > never seen her yet) looked over us and im not kidding, he profiled us. My > tattoos my shaved head, her weight, and all but told us she was seeking > meds, and that the pain she was having at that moment and through the night > could not have come from all of the tests and being stressed, and that he > wasn't going to control it. for the first time in my life i came > dangerously close to using my training as a grunt in the marine corps on a > civilian. > > she went home with > > I'M NAMING NAMES; DON'T GET MAD > > clonazepam .5mg qty: 90 - for panic disorder and for seizures (that they > too disbelieve) > > side note: her father and sister both became epileptic (?) in their > twenties. her (sister's) brain wave scan was abnormal, but her father's > wasn't. both are on meds to prevent them from coming back still to this > day. > > oxycodone 5/325 qty: 6 - for pain (it might as well be tylenol) > > citalopram 20 mg qty: 60 - for depression/anxiety > > baclofen 10mg qty: 90 - for muscle spasms (my pain management doc told me > earlier that these are useless) > > i truly hope that these meds in combination with one another help her. i > can't see how everything that's happened to her physically is just a result > of stress. i am not saying that they are wrong, and i am not complaining > about her care or treatment (except for that doctor, who doesn't know us > from adam, and judged us as a couple) i'm a friggin veteran he doesn't > " know " us, whatever.... > > i just hope/pray that another of her " attacks " or whatever doesn't happen > again. if anyone that has been keeping up with all of this knows of > anything else it might be or has any kind of advice it would be greatly > appreciated. i did not exagerate to them or to you, and i am still very > worried about my wife's health. we will be following up with a > psychiatrist, and a nerosurgeon. i didn't want her to have some sort of > disease or anything, but i wished they had found something - if that makes > sense without seeming cruel. > > thank you everyone who posted and who prayed (i haven't read them all yet) > your caring responses helped me get through these past couple of weeks. > hopefully i will have nothing more to say on the subject and this will be > the end of it; i just wish it felt as if it were over, but it doesn't. > > take care, and thank you again katrina > > rob > > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or > understands. > > > >From: " Katrina " <sweettoobeme@...> > >Reply-neck pain > >neck pain > >Subject: Re: back in the hospital > >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:28:40 -0000 > > > >Rob, It is just heartbreaking the trouble your family is having. > >Your family is in my prayers always. I hope Rae is going to be ok. > >Please keep us posted if you can. Take care, Katrina :-) > > > > > > my wife rae is back in the hospital. she was admitted yesterday > >afternoon > > > for more seizures, muscle spasms and her thyroid is messed up she > >will be > > > having testing done today at a hospital that so far has shown much > >promise. > > > we had to drive about forty minutes away to chesapeak va, but they > >believe > > > us and seem to be really trying to help her. hopefully she will > >see that; > > > she can't take hospitals much anymore. we are also working on a > >law suit > > > for a hospital visit two days ago, where she was allowed to seize > >herself > > > right out of bed and lost bladder control. the nurses told her to > >stop > > > faking when she came to and made her get back in bed herself. that > >was just > > > one of many but we shall see. thank you all for your help love and > >support. > > > i will be in and out for the next few days and can be reached by > >cell > > > phone. thank you guys for everything. please keep us in your > >prayers. > > > > > > rob > > > > > > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one > >cares or > > > understands. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 now shes on meds that i couldnt get from my pm doc. did i already whine about not being able to see him or my family doctor anymore because my state insurance isn't taken by them. i could not even get a referal. the pain management doc didn't know anyone that took that insurance. the family doctor wouldn't return my call when i asked if they could refer me to a family doctor that does take my insurance. i really liked my family doctore. he was very good at explaining stuff and believing in my pain. No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one cares or understands. >From: " Katrina " <sweettoobeme@...> >Reply-neck pain >neck pain >Subject: Re: back in the hospital >Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:21:38 -0000 > >I am so sorry to hear this Rob! That Doc had NO right. > > > > > thank you katrina, > > > > she got out this evening, and though they ran numrous tests they >say nothing > > is wrong with her. that it must be psychological. she is sleeping >right > > now after a rough night. she was in pain, and the nurse would not >page the > > doctor a second time because she was scared he would be angry with >her at 3a > > when my wife still could not sleep because of back pain. she kept >asking > > for a doctor to physically show up and examine her (so they could >see her > > back was locked up). his shift ended at 8a. i showed up at 830a, > > repeatidly asked for a doctor; he showed up at noon. the hospital >was great > > up till the very end. when nothing came back positive the doctor >(which had > > never seen her yet) looked over us and im not kidding, he profiled >us. My > > tattoos my shaved head, her weight, and all but told us she was >seeking > > meds, and that the pain she was having at that moment and through >the night > > could not have come from all of the tests and being stressed, and >that he > > wasn't going to control it. for the first time in my life i came > > dangerously close to using my training as a grunt in the marine >corps on a > > civilian. > > > > she went home >with > > > > I'M NAMING NAMES; DON'T GET MAD > > > > clonazepam .5mg qty: 90 - for panic disorder and for seizures >(that they > > too disbelieve) > > > > side note: her father and sister both became epileptic (?) in >their > > twenties. her (sister's) brain wave scan was abnormal, but her >father's > > wasn't. both are on meds to prevent them from coming back still to >this > > day. > > > > oxycodone 5/325 qty: 6 - for pain (it might as well be tylenol) > > > > citalopram 20 mg qty: 60 - for depression/anxiety > > > > baclofen 10mg qty: 90 - for muscle spasms (my pain management doc >told me > > earlier that these are useless) > > > > i truly hope that these meds in combination with one another help >her. i > > can't see how everything that's happened to her physically is just >a result > > of stress. i am not saying that they are wrong, and i am not >complaining > > about her care or treatment (except for that doctor, who doesn't >know us > > from adam, and judged us as a couple) i'm a friggin veteran he >doesn't > > " know " us, whatever.... > > > > i just hope/pray that another of her " attacks " or whatever doesn't >happen > > again. if anyone that has been keeping up with all of this knows >of > > anything else it might be or has any kind of advice it would be >greatly > > appreciated. i did not exagerate to them or to you, and i am still >very > > worried about my wife's health. we will be following up with a > > psychiatrist, and a nerosurgeon. i didn't want her to have some >sort of > > disease or anything, but i wished they had found something - if >that makes > > sense without seeming cruel. > > > > thank you everyone who posted and who prayed (i haven't read them >all yet) > > your caring responses helped me get through these past couple of >weeks. > > hopefully i will have nothing more to say on the subject and this >will be > > the end of it; i just wish it felt as if it were over, but it >doesn't. > > > > take care, and thank you again katrina > > > > rob > > > > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no one >cares or > > understands. > > > > > > >From: " Katrina " <sweettoobeme@...> > > >Reply-neck pain > > >neck pain > > >Subject: Re: back in the hospital > > >Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:28:40 -0000 > > > > > >Rob, It is just heartbreaking the trouble your family is having. > > >Your family is in my prayers always. I hope Rae is going to be ok. > > >Please keep us posted if you can. Take care, Katrina :-) > > > > > > > > my wife rae is back in the hospital. she was admitted yesterday > > >afternoon > > > > for more seizures, muscle spasms and her thyroid is messed up >she > > >will be > > > > having testing done today at a hospital that so far has shown >much > > >promise. > > > > we had to drive about forty minutes away to chesapeak va, but >they > > >believe > > > > us and seem to be really trying to help her. hopefully she will > > >see that; > > > > she can't take hospitals much anymore. we are also working on a > > >law suit > > > > for a hospital visit two days ago, where she was allowed to >seize > > >herself > > > > right out of bed and lost bladder control. the nurses told her >to > > >stop > > > > faking when she came to and made her get back in bed herself. >that > > >was just > > > > one of many but we shall see. thank you all for your help love >and > > >support. > > > > i will be in and out for the next few days and can be reached >by > > >cell > > > > phone. thank you guys for everything. please keep us in your > > >prayers. > > > > > > > > rob > > > > > > > > No greater burden can be borne by an individual than to know no >one > > >cares or > > > > understands. > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! 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Guest guest Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Rob your insurance provider should have a list of all types of doctors that you can go. I know most insurance companies have a website where you can go to get the list of doctors that you are allowed to use. Hugs and Prayers, Babs Chronic illness Chronic Pain You are not alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 In a message dated 7/3/2006 1:48:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes: I have an interesting reply to this.The Bible says to honor thy father and thy mother. But the question in cases like these becomes "How?"You seem to have performed your duties by your father yet your father has refused your help. I am not sure what more there is you can do except to lecture him on how his own behavior will be the death of him if he persists with it. I do not think this would be disrespectful in any way since it is the "tough love" that he seems to need to hear if he is to continue to live. And after the lecture is given, I would then wait to see what happens, holding fast and true to your decision to leave his life in his hands.At the same time you ought to recognize that he may be in the clutches of alcoholism and may not be able to care for himself as he needs to, in which case perhaps you should step in and be a sort of custodian for him. TomAdministrator Tom, His doctors and neighbors have all lectured him on his drinking and other bad habits. Last time this happened, I too told him that he needed to shape up some. That was probably part of resentment he seems to be holding toward me. He has always been the kind of person to take such things as proof that a person is against him. He probably is an alcoholic, but he has refused all help. Last time, I tried to have the county social services talk to him, but he wouldn't. I can't force him to get help and I've done really all that I can. Social Services and the doctors have all said that they can't intervene unless he is in such bad shape that he has no choice but to be institutionalized. For now, my father is in too good of shape, according to the system, for that to happen. So, I guess this will continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 I have an interesting reply to this. The Bible says to honor thy father and thy mother. But the question in cases like these becomes " How? " You seem to have performed your duties by your father yet your father has refused your help. I am not sure what more there is you can do except to lecture him on how his own behavior will be the death of him if he persists with it. I do not think this would be disrespectful in any way since it is the " tough love " that he seems to need to hear if he is to continue to live. And after the lecture is given, I would then wait to see what happens, holding fast and true to your decision to leave his life in his hands. At the same time you ought to recognize that he may be in the clutches of alcoholism and may not be able to care for himself as he needs to, in which case perhaps you should step in and be a sort of custodian for him. Tom Administrator This is no real surprise, but I got a call today from my father's neighbor and he was taken to the hospital again. She went in to check on him after he hadn't picked up the paper from the day before and she found him passed out on the floor. He had hit so hard his face was swollen around his left eye. The rescue crew came and took him to the hospital. I called them later to check on him. It turns out that his sodium was very low, again. Tonight they are going to be rehydrating him and try to get his sodium level back up. All in all, it was just like last time. It has been 90+ degrees here for the last several days but my father yet again had the air conditioning set up at 85. The neighbor said it was stifling in there this morning. He hadn't been eating well. Lots of food was left out around the house, some of it so long it was growing mold. He hadn't been drinking much either, aside from alcohol. The neighbor said the girl who cleans house for him usually throws out 2 or 3 half-gallon jugs of whiskey. Last time after he was sent home, I hired a nursing service for him. However, after a couple of weeks he threw them out and told them not to come back. Since then, he didn't call me, send any cards nor acknowledge the ones I sent him. So, since he is so little interested in looking out for himself, I'm not inclined to bother this time. This will probably turn into a yearly thing until he ends up dead one of these times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 " He probably is an alcoholic, but he has refused all help. Last time, I tried to have the county social services talk to him, but he wouldn't. I can't force him to get help and I've done really all that I can. " Then let whatever happens, happen, and live your life without guilt. Also, where is your mother in all this? She was the one who once married the guy? Why is she not helping him? You should not have to be a father to your father when your mother is still alive. This is not to impugn her. But I am saying that you seem somehow to have become either " the good son " to her or have gotten a bigger burden than what should be yours to bear. Tom Administrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 In a message dated 7/3/2006 2:54:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes: Then let whatever happens, happen, and live your life without guilt.Also, where is your mother in all this? She was the one who once married the guy? Why is she not helping him? You should not have to be a father to your father when your mother is still alive. The folks got divorced almost 20 years ago now. My mother bears him no real ill will, in spite of all the mental abuse, but she is in no condition financially to look after him. Besides that, my father hates her, so anything she would do will not go over well. As for where she is, she lives here with me. She is also still teaching, though she might be in her last year or two of that because of her age. She's annoying at times, but is capable of taking care of herself and is actually following a responsible diet to lose a little weight. As for looking after my father, I do pretty much what I can, but there are limits. If he won't take help, then that's that. I just talked to someone from the hospital and they will be able to arrange for Medicare paid nurses for a few weeks, which would be a help. If he needs to be committed to a nursing home or something, that's going to be a real fight since he won't want to go because, well mostly because he would have to give up drinking and because he's paranoid. I'd almost be worried about my own safety if we tried to put him in a home, if it wasn't for his being such a pitiful shot. All that we'll have to worry about when the time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 >> > " I called them later to check on him. It turns out that his sodium was very > low, again. Tonight they are going to be rehydrating him and try to get his > sodium level back up. All in all, it was just like last time. " My doctor told me that many people have low sodium levels and don't know it because the focus today is that salt is bad. Especially in summer can your sodium level drop low. If you feel fatigued, faint or dizzy and headachy and water alone doesn't help, try a quarter to a half teaspoon of salt (real sea salt is much prefered but processed salt will work) and a glass of water. If you feel better in about ten to fifteen minutes you'll know it was a need for salt. Pure coconut water is a great electrolyte replenishing drink, if you have access to green or young coconuts. The company, Vitacoco sells pure coconut water. No need to drink neon green sugar-chemical water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Dear , My husband is a recovering alcoholic. Living with alcoholism is a difficult road to travel. If your parents are divorced it is probably for this reason, at one point or another if they arent willing to get well you have to give up or it will kill you too. You may want to consider Alanon meetings there are some on line if you don't want to go in person. Research it get the information, if you would like I can privately e-mail you some sites and names of some really good books. If he doesn't want help you can't force him, but you don't have to take care of him, it is his responsiblity to take care of himself, and get help for himself, if he won't there is nothing you can do to help him, by taking care of him and worrying about him your are only enabling him to drink. I know this sounds harsh but its the truth. If you would like to talk you can e-mail me your number and a time to call or we can continue the convesation in private. I do have a lot of information and experience on this topic, Tom can attest to that and I am more than willing to try to help you. I understand and feel your pain and I am sorry you have to go through this. Take care, Beth > > > In a message dated 7/3/2006 1:48:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, > no_reply writes: > > > > I have an interesting reply to this. > > The Bible says to honor thy father and thy mother. But the question > in cases like these becomes " How? " > > You seem to have performed your duties by your father yet your father > has refused your help. I am not sure what more there is you can do > except to lecture him on how his own behavior will be the death of > him if he persists with it. I do not think this would be > disrespectful in any way since it is the " tough love " that he seems > to need to hear if he is to continue to live. > > And after the lecture is given, I would then wait to see what > happens, holding fast and true to your decision to leave his life in > his hands. > > At the same time you ought to recognize that he may be in the > clutches of alcoholism and may not be able to care for himself as he > needs to, in which case perhaps you should step in and be a sort of > custodian for him. > > Tom > Administrator > > > > > Tom, > > His doctors and neighbors have all lectured him on his drinking and other > bad habits. Last time this happened, I too told him that he needed to shape up > some. That was probably part of resentment he seems to be holding toward me. > He has always been the kind of person to take such things as proof that a > person is against him. > > He probably is an alcoholic, but he has refused all help. Last time, I tried > to have the county social services talk to him, but he wouldn't. I can't > force him to get help and I've done really all that I can. Social Services and > the doctors have all said that they can't intervene unless he is in such bad > shape that he has no choice but to be institutionalized. For now, my father is > in too good of shape, according to the system, for that to happen. > > So, I guess this will continue. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 What a aweful position to be in. I sure hope that whatever steps you decide to take, you will be able to cope without guilt. Kim > > This is no real surprise, but I got a call today from my father's neighbor > and he was taken to the hospital again. She went in to check on him after he > hadn't picked up the paper from the day before and she found him passed out on > the floor. He had hit so hard his face was swollen around his left eye. The > rescue crew came and took him to the hospital. > > I called them later to check on him. It turns out that his sodium was very > low, again. Tonight they are going to be rehydrating him and try to get his > sodium level back up. All in all, it was just like last time. > > It has been 90+ degrees here for the last several days but my father yet > again had the air conditioning set up at 85. The neighbor said it was stifling > in there this morning. He hadn't been eating well. Lots of food was left out > around the house, some of it so long it was growing mold. He hadn't been > drinking much either, aside from alcohol. The neighbor said the girl who cleans > house for him usually throws out 2 or 3 half-gallon jugs of whiskey. > > Last time after he was sent home, I hired a nursing service for him. > However, after a couple of weeks he threw them out and told them not to come back. > Since then, he didn't call me, send any cards nor acknowledge the ones I sent > him. So, since he is so little interested in looking out for himself, I'm not > inclined to bother this time. This will probably turn into a yearly thing > until he ends up dead one of these times. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 I wouldn't trust a nursing home either. The senior citizens don't have much to do there and the young carestaff are probably on a power trip. It sounds like he just needs to go to a rehabilitation center which is different from a nursing home. Neither are a pretty picture but, he may, in fact want to live his final years with some dignity even if it takes an insitution for awhile to get him away from bad habits . VISIGOTH@... wrote: In a message dated 7/3/2006 2:54:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes: Then let whatever happens, happen, and live your life without guilt.Also, where is your mother in all this? She was the one who once married the guy? Why is she not helping him? You should not have to be a father to your father when your mother is still alive. The folks got divorced almost 20 years ago now. My mother bears him no real ill will, in spite of all the mental abuse, but she is in no condition financially to look after him. Besides that, my father hates her, so anything she would do will not go over well. As for where she is, she lives here with me. She is also still teaching, though she might be in her last year or two of that because of her age. She's annoying at times, but is capable of taking care of herself and is actually following a responsible diet to lose a little weight. As for looking after my father, I do pretty much what I can, but there are limits. If he won't take help, then that's that. I just talked to someone from the hospital and they will be able to arrange for Medicare paid nurses for a few weeks, which would be a help. If he needs to be committed to a nursing home or something, that's going to be a real fight since he won't want to go because, well mostly because he would have to give up drinking and because he's paranoid. I'd almost be worried about my own safety if we tried to put him in a home, if it wasn't for his being such a pitiful shot. All that we'll have to worry about when the time comes. Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 In a message dated 7/3/2006 12:11:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, dksunglsses@... writes: Dear ,My husband is a recovering alcoholic. Living with alcoholism is a difficult road to travel. If your parents are divorced it is probably for this reason, at one point or another if they arent willing to get well you have to give up or it will kill you too. You may want to consider Alanon meetings there are some on line if you don't want to go in person. Research it get the information, if you would like I can privately e-mail you some sites and names of some really good books. If he doesn't want help you can't force him, but you don't have to take care of him, it is his responsiblity to take care of himself, and get help for himself, if he won't there is nothing you can do to help him, by taking care of him and worrying about him your are only enabling him to drink. I know this sounds harsh but its the truth. If you would like to talk you can e-mail me your number and a time to call or we can continue the convesation in private. I do have a lot of information and experience on this topic, Tom can attest to that and I am more than willing to try to help you. I understand and feel your pain and I am sorry you have to go through this. Take care,Beth I don't see that I am the one who needs Alanon since I don't drink in the first place. My father could probably stand to go, but I don't think there is any way that he would even consider such a thing. He always has been rather self-destructive and toxic to those around him. However, since I have so little contact with him, it doesn't affect me anymore. What is interesting is that my father hated his own father. I don't really remember that much about him since I rarely saw him what with us living in Virginia and him being in Alabama and that he died when I was about 13 or so. What I do remember of him though wasn't bad. Probably it was that my father saw in his father his own failings and hated that. No telling though. He also hated his brother, who I always liked. He wasn't perfect of course, but he was fairly pleasant to be around, which is a far cry from my father. My uncle had been gravely ill for a number of years before he died, but my father never called nor even tried to reconcile whatever their differences were. When I called to tell him his brother had died, he was shocked for a moment, then said something to the effect of, "its about time that son of a bitch died." I'm just mentioning this as background as to why I'm not too concerned about him. If he treated his own family like that, you can imagine how he was to my mother an me. Basically it seems that he is having a loaf of bad karma catching up with him at last. Of course what is amusing is that he didn't start drinking until he started having an affair with a particular woman. He would visit them and the husband would drink beer. So to fit in with him, my father started drinking too. Prior to this he was very much against drinking, being practically a prohibitionist. Interesting how he sold one belief as cover for his affair and now it is still hurting him. I thank you for the offer of help, but I don't need any. The problems are his and not mine. I'll do what I can to look after him though that will probably be very little. Eventually he'll end up in the hospital or a home for good, or dead. Short of that, I don't think there will be any getting through to him. PS It should get really interesting after he is discharged. The neighbors were worried about him having all those guns in his house and that he might shoot one of them one day when they came in the house to check on him. So, after talking to my lawyer about it, they are going to take them all out of the house and get them to me for safekeeping. He's really going to pitch a kingsized fit when he finds his guns are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 In a message dated 7/3/2006 3:03:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, 6emini@... writes: What a aweful position to be in. I sure hope that whatever steps you decide to take, you will be able to cope without guilt. Kim Kim, Thanks. I'm not going to have any guilt about it. To be quite honest, my father made the 14 years of my life he was around when I was alive miserable. There were some good times of course, but most of the time it was just unpleasant. He was the kind of person that when he was in the house, there was a kind of oppressive feel to the air. It is hard to describe beyond that. When he left, it was like a normal house again, like airing a bad smell out of the house. When his own brother lost both legs to the knees to diabetes and had round the clock sitters at home, my father raged at the expense of it, since it was coming from the family lands. However, that money was coming from the portion belonging to my uncle. It was my opinion that so long as he did nothing illegal with the money, he could spend it how he liked. My father wanted him put in a home, which would have undoubtedly cost far more than keeping him at home with sitters. Now my father is almost in that same condition. However, I don't think it would be possible to find sitters that would be able to put up with him at home. My uncle could be a handful sometimes, but at least he was more likable and much less hostile and nasty than my father. That made his occasional tempers easier to handle. My father can put on the phony charm and seem to have the neighbors up there snowed, but I don't know how they can't see how fake he is. But, I tried to help him last time with nurses that would look in on him several times per week, but he threw them out after they kept after him about his drinking. He won't deal with social services either since he thinks that is some kind of conspiracy to have him committed or something like that. If he keeps up, there will be no choice but to commit him, and God help those poor people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 , ' Alanon, is for people living with or dealing with Alcoholics AA is for the Alcoholic them selves. It teaches strategies on how to deal with them or how and when to walk away without guilt. You may want to consider rehab as an altermative for care this way he has a chance at not drinking. I understand you not being to concerned for him, and that is actually a good thing it will be more difficult for him to drag you down with him. I only wanted you to know you have support if you want and or need it. I do have a lot of information and if you would like I am willing to share. Beth VISIGOTH@... wrote: In a message dated 7/3/2006 12:11:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, dksunglsses@... writes: Dear ,My husband is a recovering alcoholic. Living with alcoholism is a difficult road to travel. If your parents are divorced it is probably for this reason, at one point or another if they arent willing to get well you have to give up or it will kill you too. You may want to consider Alanon meetings there are some on line if you don't want to go in person. Research it get the information, if you would like I can privately e-mail you some sites and names of some really good books. If he doesn't want help you can't force him, but you don't have to take care of him, it is his responsiblity to take care of himself, and get help for himself, if he won't there is nothing you can do to help him, by taking care of him and worrying about him your are only enabling him to drink. I know this sounds harsh but its the truth. If you would like to talk you can e-mail me your number and a time to call or we can continue the convesation in private. I do have a lot of information and experience on this topic, Tom can attest to that and I am more than willing to try to help you. I understand and feel your pain and I am sorry you have to go through this. Take care,Beth I don't see that I am the one who needs Alanon since I don't drink in the first place. My father could probably stand to go, but I don't think there is any way that he would even consider such a thing. He always has been rather self-destructive and toxic to those around him. However, since I have so little contact with him, it doesn't affect me anymore. What is interesting is that my father hated his own father. I don't really remember that much about him since I rarely saw him what with us living in Virginia and him being in Alabama and that he died when I was about 13 or so. What I do remember of him though wasn't bad. Probably it was that my father saw in his father his own failings and hated that. No telling though. He also hated his brother, who I always liked. He wasn't perfect of course, but he was fairly pleasant to be around, which is a far cry from my father. My uncle had been gravely ill for a number of years before he died, but my father never called nor even tried to reconcile whatever their differences were. When I called to tell him his brother had died, he was shocked for a moment, then said something to the effect of, "its about time that son of a bitch died." I'm just mentioning this as background as to why I'm not too concerned about him. If he treated his own family like that, you can imagine how he was to my mother an me. Basically it seems that he is having a loaf of bad karma catching up with him at last. Of course what is amusing is that he didn't start drinking until he started having an affair with a particular woman. He would visit them and the husband would drink beer. So to fit in with him, my father started drinking too. Prior to this he was very much against drinking, being practically a prohibitionist. Interesting how he sold one belief as cover for his affair and now it is still hurting him. I thank you for the offer of help, but I don't need any. The problems are his and not mine. I'll do what I can to look after him though that will probably be very little. Eventually he'll end up in the hospital or a home for good, or dead. Short of that, I don't think there will be any getting through to him. PS It should get really interesting after he is discharged. The neighbors were worried about him having all those guns in his house and that he might shoot one of them one day when they came in the house to check on him. So, after talking to my lawyer about it, they are going to take them all out of the house and get them to me for safekeeping. He's really going to pitch a kingsized fit when he finds his guns are gone. Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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